>be Digital Nomad>shoot the shit with some others at the bar about it>DUDE YOU SHOULD GET A COWORK PASS>180/mo for Regus with 10/day shared desk(280 for unlimited) or 280 for WeWork>WeWork places drying up leaving Regus the only real player> sub 300 plans only allow you to work at a shared desk or cubical at most>private office is ~500/mo for global access on most sites>could throw down 180/mo to just get a better airbnb or hotel to work inCan someone explain to me this meme? I've seen people talk about coworking here before and the math isn't mathing. How the fuck does this save money or improve anything? Are these people recommending these places staying in the 2x4 futon bedding places to try and cheese on 'savings'? Am I doing something wrong by looking at Regus? For context I am going to be moving around HK, Taiwan, and PH next year for about 6 months and understand the living situations in those places are smaller. If I just add the cost per month to my airbnb I come out ahead or break even 9 out of 10 times...
>>2845797>180/mo airbnblol wut?co-working spaces are retarded, though. Just go to a café or library if you don't want to work at home. I guess the appeal to it is that you can try and make friends/hook-ups with other nomads. The only person I know that really used them was a typical "please look at me" IG roastie
>>2845803>lol wut?I mean adding on the cost of the 180 to my normal budget of an airbnb being around 450-650/mo in Asia.Not a fan of Cafe's libraries are eh. More or less was looking at if I was doing something wrong like looking at the wrong services or the like. I can see their use if you hostel hop and need a place to work during quiet times but other than that I don't get it.
>>2845838>More or less was looking at if I was doing something wrong like looking at the wrong services or the likeIt seems like you're looking at global/international plans for the big chain offerings and getting ripped off on that, I think just looking for local coworking places and checking the prices would be better
I'm a digital nomad, honestly I'm not really one for working at co-works or cafes. The whole point of this thing was that I don't have to go to an office imo.Yeah even when I was in Buenos Aires I did the co-work office for like a week while my AirBnB's building had internet issues, it was pretty ridiculous how expensive it was in a place where things are otherwise pretty cheap.I'm the same way I'd rather spend a little extra on a slightly larger AirBnB and work from there.
>>2845859If you're doing coworking for more than 10 days a month, it's just better to get the global pass in virtually every country in the world. Most places are going to charge you ~20-25 dollars a 8-16-24hr visit.
>>2845797I get 3x wework passes a month which have turned out to be quite handy. I mainly use it as a place to get free coffee and beer on arrival/departure days. Bonus points if there's a pool table to fuck around on and make lots of noise.They're always populated by faggots, and there's ALWAYS '''''social media experts''''' on the beanbags with their iShit
>>2845797I have slept with multiple women from WeWork. Also, the offices usually have good locations.Anyway if 300 dollars per month is a significant expense for you then you shouldn't be "digital nomading".
>>2846224>Anyway if 300 dollars per month is a significant expense for you then you shouldn't be "digital nomading".Maybe I am retarded but the point seems to be: pay for a separate work location vs. adding 300 extra to your lodging budget to have a better place to work from.>I have slept with multiple women from WeWorkand everyone clapped when you walked in
>>2846283Many people enjoy working with others and not in a hotel room. It's like a cafe but without noise, screaming children, etc. WeWork has weekly social events and you can treat other people there as your "coworkers" and go get drinks together and shit. And yes there can be many women there, depending on location.
>>2845797I rent an office in a local business centre in the places where I spend most timeIt costs about half a day’s pay a monthIt’s private, has proper internet, office facilities if I ever need them (copier etc)At the moment I am working for two companies and spending a lot of time on teams etc so the privacy and quiet are essentialsI’m not starved of human interaction so the “social” aspects of wework aren’t important to me. Also didn’t they basically go bust a couple of years ago? Did they recover?
>>2846430WeWork seems to be the next China. "Gonna collapse any time now" vibes.
>>2845797>regus>we worksorta shambolic normie choices, they're made for big corps a lot more than random blow-ins, the few I've been to are nice thoughI pay $50 a week for a dedicated desk with my monitors in Taipei >surrounded by flirty cuties who love white guys and bunch of relaxed IT lads >People to go have a drink with if you want, pregame in the office some weeks>proper insulated rooms for calls>good chairs>lots of space in a big building to take your laptop and sit staring out into the city I would blow my brains out after a month spending $50 more to get basically nothing extra with accommodation and working from home in Taipei. Do you even know much about renting there? The other comment was on the money, if you cant afford one then you shouldn't be traveling in the first place. I have a team of 5 guys, the whole company is fully remote, if some cunt kept dropping out of calls each week or dialing in from a loud cafe he'd get fuckin fired so quick, moreso than actually fucking up on the job, it's completely unprofessional. As a remote worker internet reliability is entirely on you and not an excuse. >>2845803Are you larping?Absolutely no way you are spending 40 hours a week long term on a shitty chair, with shitty internet in a crowded room. >>2846430Coworkings all have private offices, strange to pretend it's any different from a business centre. They're sorta just the open-plan extension of them.
>>2846667>I pay $50 a week for a dedicated desk with my monitors in Taipeiweird way to spell "hostel"
>>2846675Are you retarded? What about that statement is so hard to comprehend or verify yourselfI haven't stayed in a hostel for a very long time
>>2846676What coworking place are you staying for 50 a week at for all you listed. Because unless you're larping 50/wk gets you a shared table with a half height 'privacy' wall.
>>2846681What do you think a dedicated desk is anon?
>>2846696>What do you think a dedicated desk is anon?a freestanding desk not connected to a block of desks or part of a large table with a spacer/divider
>>2845797It's for normies to norm out. Normies can't fathom not being around other people every second
>>2846696Something like picrel? A large table with some half-height "privacy" walls up where you can still stare right into the person across from you or hear Sven trying to talk to someone next to you isn't what I would consider a dedicated desk.
>>2846373>Many people enjoy working with others and not in a hotel room.If your work doesn't mandate quiet focused time you're not doing anything important.>It's like a cafe but without noise, screaming children, etc. I'd unironically rather be around screaming children than crypto bros and social media faggots>WeWork has weekly social events and you can treat other people there as your "coworkers" and go get drinks together and shit.The whole reason why I want flexibility and autonomy in my work is so that I don't have to deal with other people. >And yes there can be many women there, depending on location.Well now I definitely know that you're not producing anything of significance. Holy shit I knew it was kind of a meme to hate on techies but the more I hear from you online and irl the more I realise you are the actual problem.
>>2845797>"coworking space"I'd rather get shot in the head
>>2846874NTA but I am project oriented with a few well-planned meeting times every week. As long as my work is done along with the daily maintenance tasks that pop up my boss doesn't exactly care how or where I work.That said, I don't get how people can sit at a "shared desk" space with 6 other people speaking whatever different languages at some random time of the day while also trying to focus on shit. I'd rather just throw the cash at beefing up my accommodations in the place I am at rather than popping cash to a random shared desk with Raj next to me.>>284666750 a week is ~200/mo so you're at about the Regus bill of 280/mo that allows you a fully private room X times per month, and instant access to their buildings via the app in a new country.>surrounded by flirty cuties who love white guys and bunch of relaxed IT ladsI don't think you've ever seriously been to a shared work environment. Maybe it's because I am often working 10PM->6AM, but even during times I pull the 8-6PM zone of work it's mostly just dudes working with maybe a few staff who are women walking around.
>>2846874>>2846884
>>2846897>everything is a "disorder"That just looks like someone's mundane personality. Everything need to be a "disorder" because that's then "treated" for more money with bullshit jobs.
>>2846897Are you actually considering going to a co-workspace as an extroverted activity that is socializing? way to self report as a shut in.
>>2846453it seems that the company has been a financial basket case almost since its founding. ridiculous valuation, hype, spectatcular collapse, bankruptcy. e.g. https://youtu.be/X2LwIiKhczo, https://youtu.be/p3q5m0ILTfk. they are basically a financial sinkhole. the founder seems to be a wannabe elon and is apparently a complete cunt>>2846667>Coworkings all have private offices, strange to pretend it's any different from a business centreweird comment. who's "pretending" anything? the business centre where i rent my main office does have an open plan area too. i rarely use it. most people just sit there for coffee breaks. it seems to be mainly utilised by the noisy pajeets who occupy one of the other offices in the building (there seem to be about 20 of them in an office designed for 4-5 people. fortunately my office is not near theirs) who monopolise the communal microwave for their vile smelling food. i suspect this is the actual reality of most open plan coworking spaces in asia.>>2846894>Regus bill of 280/moa few years ago when i was travelling almost constantly and had all the top tiers in frequent flyer programmes etc, one airline (can't remember which) sent me Regus membership card as a perk. i didn't realise it at first but it was some kind of life membership super ninja gold card thing that allowed me to go to any Regus site and use the open plan area and drink coffee all day for free. i used it maybe a couple of times. i didn't really appreciate that it had a value. i wonder if i still have it
I'm of the assumption the people using these things primarily stay in the bottom of the barrel or party hostels while trying to still appear to their bosses as working from home. Looks like you can get as low as $80 USD a month if you don't mind just sitting wherever and working off an ottoman or coffee table. I guess if you don't mind that hell sure, I could see it being a viable method if you stay somewhere that electricity pricing is out the ass like PH.
>>2846899>>2846904Every person I've seen with this disdain for a co-working exhibited schizoid traits, thanks for confirming. >>2846920Yeah, so it's literally the same just with a paid pleb area.People who can't see the value in a dedicated workspace clearly don't actually do anything of value.I have a dedicated office in my homebase and still rent a desk down the road because every gf I've had annoys the shit out of you while trying to work at home
>>2846980> schizoidYou keep saying that word but you don't know what it means.>I have a dedicated office in my homebase and still rent a desk down the road because every gf I've had annoys the shit out of you while trying to work at homeWhoa check the big balls on brad here, he has a girlfriend you guys! LMFAO. What a totally real excuse.That's great anon, but the posts you made implied your coworking time at these rented offices were your socializing. Besides you're GF has no job of their own? If you're working during the day she's just lazing around your place? I could see at night her complaining about noise if you somehow have a studio, but why have a studio if you're shacking up with a girl.
>>2845797these places also close at 10pm local time so it's not possible to work western hours.I can't believe they charge much for a desk to sit at. Maybe we should start tipping at cafes more?
>>2847021>these places also close at 10pm local time so it's not possible to work western hours.There are tons that are open 24/7 anon, that's part of their selling point. Sure WeWork has basically cut a lot of their overnight stuff but Regus has a bunch of 24/7 places.
>>2847023I couldn't find any in Taipei or Kanagawa. Maybe I'll have another look. But my budget is $10 per day. Otherwise I'll continue laying in my sticky box with my piss bottles
>>2847026https://www.regus.com/en-us/taiwan/taipei-city/1-songzhi-road-1699?ws=office-space&lang=en-us&lat=25.0387719&lng=121.5663143&northeastLat=25.044604095620535&northeastLng=121.5817638239258&southwestLat=25.032939427046422&southwestLng=121.55086477607423&radius=1.0477126782183863&search=Taipei%20CityTaipei literally has nothing but 24/7 places I know because I go there yearly lol. Kanagawa is the same shit anon 24/7 access via the mobile app everywhere.Are you sure you're looking at Regus locations and not WeWork?
>>2847023>Regus has a bunch of 24/7 places.when i was looking for an office to rent i did consider the local regus place. it advertised 24/7 access but it turned out that the air conditioning is centrally controlled and it is switched off at 7pm local (malaysia) time. since i mainly work on uk/euro time i.e. i would be there until 1-2am i really didn't fancy the idea of sitting there sweating for most of the evening (my current office has its own independent aircon unit)
>>2847031>it advertised 24/7 access but it turned out that the air conditioning is centrally controlled and it is switched off at 7pm local (malaysia) timeThis sounds like one of those weird things they do in Kuching because the electric prices get so fucky. I would be hard pressed to think all locations in Johor/KL/George town would do this. KL especially has a fuck ton of night workers.
>>2847030I don't know what I was looking at previously.The link you sent has places for $300/day. I can't afford that.My budget is only $20/day max
>>2847040Anon, I....That's why you get the membership pass and pay per month for these places. That opens up the access to these places for 24/7, whatever country you're in, etc. Unlimited coworking space is 280/mo so like 9 USD a day?Please tell me you are "merely pretending" right now
>>2847036this was in selangor
>>2847044I guess I give up too easily, but I don't blame myself.>see this>convert to my currency>fall off my chair>continue working on my bedI think I'd rather save $179 for 10 days. My room is comfy enough
>>2847047I mean, this is like seeing a day pass for a gym and going WOW MUST BE EXPENSIVE. 180/mo is for 30 days of access with 10 reserving a private table work space. I'm all for saving money but at least get it right my guy.
>>2847049Your screenshot shows 179 for 10 days over the course of one month. We still aren't aligning to a single reality. It's ok if we don't, but I'll be curious what the reality is
>>2847070The plan is a month of lounge and building access with 10 days of possible reserved desk/workspace per month rather than get whatever is open. At least try not to be merely pretending again....
>>2847073holy fuck I'm doing a terrible job reading posts in their entirety. You wrote it, but my mind process the last part. Maybe I was distracted? Maybe I am in cognitive decline from low self esteem? Idk I had trouble doing arithmetic correctly the first try today. I wouldn't say I'm tired, but I'm not focusing on anything. I apologize for my low effort responses. Sorry anon
>>2847047I don't even have a dog in this race but it says it right there, even if you did the highest tier they have it's still under 20/mo for a private office with simple napkin math.
>>2847088>under 20/mo* for a private office with simple napkin math.*10 times maxDoesn't seem like a good deal imo. I don't know what you're looking to get from it though
>>2847093There is an unlimited teir anon >>2847044 for 559/mo which is under 20/mo. > I don't know what you're looking to get from it thoughPersonally, I wouldn't do the 559/mo plan, but I could easily see the 239/mo plan. I only need a few days a month where I am on project calls usually once a week with a floating one somewhere mixed in. So, me having a full office to take calls for that would be appealing. I'd rather get a better Airbnb at that rate the appeal I could see is if you are working abroad constantly taking calls and meets daily to where you need a desk space to actually perform work. I also can see these places providing a good standard or baseline for internet speed, good noise control, power, climate control, etc. Depending on the country it could be viable due to power costs or the like. For people who have "daily/weekly stand ups" with the webcam needing to be on!!!!!, I could 1000% see people jumping for the reserved office spaces.
>>2847094under 20 a day*
>>2847026Grim>>2847030Regus and WeWork are completely overpriced for what they are. One and Co is really nice in Taipei, $10 a day. I like the Hive also, much better than their ones in Thailand/Malaysia.>>2847007I know plenty of people outside the office, you can't live in a place long term as the few gweilos there and not end up knowing people, it's just nice having some place different and I'm not a mentally retarded hikikomori like the rest of this board. Having a separate space where I can just go and focus works wonders, working from my home office I fuck around all day, go swimming or read a book on the roof, the house does stay clean though.
>>2847164>One and Co is really nice in Taipei, $10 a daySo if you assume 5 working days a month, you're basically paying the same price as the mid-tier option then for coworking? what's the benefit to those over Regus which is world wide. Not trying to shit on your rec but as someone who bounces between Europe, USA, and Asia; Regus offers the most places and access through an app any time that makes it the most convenient.
>>2847172If you want multiple offices with short durations then probably that's a better deal? I dunno. I tend to stay a few months at a time so never think much about it, rock up pay my deposit and sit down, do it again in the next city.One and Co have offices in Singapore and all over Japan (it's owned by JR East), super cozy and high quality business environment.Hive is also all over Asia but not really a fan of their junglemonkey offices apart from Singapore.
>>2847175>one and co>We are open Monday – Friday from 9:00 – 18:00
>>2847181That's the front desk anon, you get a keycard for monthly memberships
>>2847183Same with Hive actually also, well all the ones I've been to.
>>2847183>opening date summer 2022 (planned)how old is that screenshot anon
>>2847175>If you want multiple offices with short durations then probably that's a better deal? I dunno.I mean I do 1-2ish months per country before moving on, usually somwehere between 45-75 days to give myself some buffer zone on my visa if shit hits the fan(typhoon BS, airline strike, need to stop over for a few days to next place, etc). It's more about just not wanting to scan my passport and info into all these different companies when I can just focus on one that covers all the bases. Am I losing maybe ~50/mo doing so? Maybe. Am I not having to guess or worry which option is where and what place has my info? Absolutely.From my research at least Regus has multiple options in the cities I would stay in, and covers said countries too. Call it paying for convenience or whatever I'd rather just be able to not have guess work when planning stuff
Is this a good deal?
>>2847195$50/week is solid for what it isIt's a good area also, I liked chilling out in that park there
>>2847196I wonder if I saw you the other day, sitting at that park without your shoes on
>>2846667>larpingNo, I work from my airbnb 99% of the time like the Lord intended. I have done light bullshit from a coffee shop on occasion though just to have an excuse to get out and walk around for a bit. Usually stay for an hour or so and then fuck off back to my apartment
>>2847236Based denial of renting chairs poster.How is a civilizations supposed to be culturally and intellectually enriched when renting chairs costs $18 per sit?
>>2847236>BMI: 37How do you not have a fucked back sitting on some garbage airbnb chair full time?
>>2847197Lmao when was this? I left 2 weeks ago for ChristmasOtherwise maybe, it happens. I need a picnic rug to keep in my locker there
