>>2845951
>Huangshan solo hiking
there are "tourist areas" in the mountains with maintained trails, cable cars, signs, restaurants etc. That is where 99% of people go and is what Chinese people think of when you say "I am going to Huangshan". The Chinese "going up a mountain" experience is basically just taking a cablecar to the top, wandering around and taking some photos, then walking down.
Outside of the tourist areas, it is likely to be less well maintained, trails will exist between villages and stuff though. There is phone signal everywhere so you probably won't get lost.

>>2846348
>700-1000usd (5k-7k RMB) for 14-20 days of travel
so at most this is 500RMB/day and at worst 250RMB/day
I would say it really depends on how luxurious you want your trip to be. By staying in hostels and eating cheaper food I was able to spend around 100RMB/day at times.
Hostel will be 50-100/day. Cheap hotels and homestays maybe 100-150, but you need to make sure they take foreigners.
Food, again it depends on what you like. If you want western food all the time then it could easily be 200 for every meal. If you're willing to eat like locals do then you probably won't spend more than 60-70/day on food.
Attractions and tickets are cheap, very rarely over 100 rmb. You can also get discounted student tickets if applicable.
Getting around is super cheap with share bikes and taxis usually only like 20rmb for a short trip 50 for longer ones.
Train tickets can be expensive on the HSR (roughly 50rmb/100km, can be more). Sleeper trains and slow trains will save you more money.

It is totally feasible, the only constraint is accomodation. If you want to stay in a proper hotel everywhere it will be more difficult but not impossible.

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Can anyone recommend a good Tiananmen 1989 / 天安门 一九八九年 tour in Beijing?

I'm thinking of going to China for the first time in April, for 30 days.
Is this a reasonable itenary/loop?

Days 1-6: Beijing, one day to Tianjin
Days 7-10 Xian, one day at Mt Hua
Days 11-16 Chengdu(4) and Chongqing (2)
Days 17-20 Guilin/Yangshuo
Days 21-24 Guanzhou or Hong Kong
Days 25-30 Shanghai, one or two days in Hangzhou or Suzhou maybe

I could do it the other way round, like south-west-northeast, I havent really got anything settled.

Ive got WeChat, Alipay, Baidu maps and a bunch of other apps I am told are essential, what else should I bring along ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOQ1EHvR_c
is this (dense narrow winding streets with commieblocks and foliage layered on top of each other) representative of Chongqing at large or are only a couple places like this?

>>2846570
>doesn't help out the cute girl dropping all her stuff on the street
what a jerk

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Is this board so obsessed with the squint eyes youll give money to a fucked up nation like chiba

>>2846553
Looks pretty good, those are pretty much all of the entry level China cities. Amaps is good as well. Don't take your portable phone charger if you're doing domestic flights since you'll need to get one domestically that has the CC logo on it for regulatory reasons.

>>2846570
yeah that is representative of the areas which haven't been built in the last 15 years for the middle and upper middle classes. the residential buildings on the streets and roads are typical chinese residential areas. more modern ones are build behind walls and contained away from the streets. that video is standard china.

>>2846732
They actually take away your charger at the airport? Interesting

>>2846586
timestamp? that is jerk behaviour to be honest
>>2846736
China seems cool and I have nothing going for me, may as well become an English teacher over there desu

>>2846553
So you would spend all your time in cities (apart from Guilin and Yangshuo)? I will warn you that Chinese cities are ultimately the same at the end of the day, once you have seen all the historical and cultural stuff then there is not much left. Guangzhou and Shanghai are especially bad for this.

Also Tianjin is really really boring, just nothing at all going on. If you want a day trip from Beijing go to Datong or Chengde.

>>2846748
new policy because apparently EU certification (CE) powerbanks are dangerous
so they will confiscate them and not allow them on flights, you have to have the Chinese certification (CCC) instead

>>2846570
this is more dense than average, but pretty representative
most new developments are pre-planned neighbourhoods which are less dense than this

>>2846763
2:25 in

>>2846732
Yeah I thought it would give a good overall cover, of most of the core areas, I havent got any of the peripheral places like Yunnan, dongbei or the western parts. Regarding the CCC chargers, Ive heard the Chinese border folks are tight about that. I found a LISEN one on Amazon, should I buy one of these or just get one in China?

>>2846774
Yeah it is mostly cities. I do plan to do a few day trips, like Tianjin from Beijing, Mt Hua from Xian, Liantang village from Guangzhou.

I was thinking of adding a 3-4 day leg for Huangshan, mountains and villages between Guangzhou and Shanghai, but I felt it might be too rushed and Id have to cut back days in other places. Plus, its not like its going anywhere if I decide to go back.

As for Tianjin, I quite want to go there to see the Teda/Kiev aircraft carrier theme park. An ex Soviet aircraft carrier is hardly the pinnacle of Chinese culture but its something I'm interested in.

Did any of you learn some chinese before the trip?
I did one trip to Japan without any japanese and then a second one after learning enough for some basic conversations and the experience was vastly different for me, I wonder if the same would apply to China
Will probably postpone the trip to 2027 if it makes it a lot better as I don't have it in me to start learning it now

>>2846800
oh, in that case you should make sure you go to Binhai district in Tianjin not Tianjin city itself because the aircraft carrier is in Binhai
if you wanted to skip a city then the most skippable is Guangzhou or Chengdu

also you should bring deodorant, because it's super difficult to buy in China

>>2846805
I speak fluent Chinese so I haven't experienced this myself but some of my friends came who spoke zero Chinese and they were basically completely helpless and liable to get scammed at any moment; vs some friends who spoke basic Chinese and were much more able to get around and do stuff by themselves
basically nobody in China speaks English so it's best to know some

>>2846810
>basically nobody in China speaks English so it's best to know some
is this the case in the big cities too?

>>2846830
100%, and there's no language family cheese you can call upon, either.

>>2846830
yes, receptionists in hotels and attendants on trains and such might know basic English but they never use (most foreign tourists still go in groups so they don't have to talk to them) it so it's so bad as to be incomprehensible.

University graduates and students might have ok-ish English, providing that they actually use or practice it, which is rare. Also you won't interact with them day-to-day. The people who you will be talking to: sales clerks, tourist attraction clerks and guides, taxi drivers, waiters, random passers-by: all of them will know next to zero English.

It might be a tiny bit better in Shanghai than other places but desu I didn't notice much of a difference between big cities and small cities because like 70% of the people in big cities are migrants from the countryside and small cities

How do I meet qts to date in China, anons? They smile at me in the street and I smile back, but I don't want to ask every girl who smiles for her WeChat. They're so polite and wholesome. What are the apps to use if I want to take a girl on a nice date?

>>2846553
Bring a floppy diskette and whatever you want to put onto it

>>2846943
most of the western ones aren't blocked, and you are most likely to find English speakers there
there are loads of local apps but most people using them won't speak English

I like it here. Loneliness hit me today and I'm drinking some kind of 5% alcoholic lemon drink on a bench (there's a whole lemon slice inside) in a night market surrounded by people. I'd be too self-conscious to sit here sober. Would be lonelier back home. T-shirt weather and there's a breeze. Feels cozy to be around other folks even though I don't know what they're saying.

>>2847054
t-shirt weather? how far south are you? Hainan?
up north it is definitely not t-shirt weather

>>2846778
:(

>>2847068
Shenzhen. Where are you? Shout-out to the Finnish bro who approached me at the night market while I was ordering a sausage. Forgot to grab the order (3 RMB), but we talked for a few hours which made my night. I wish I was brave enough to solo travel Asia back in my early twenties, but I couldn't afford it anyway. The zoomers are alright and I'm buying him dinner if we meet again.

>>2847137
Beijing and Hebei soon

>>2846805
Pirate the Michel Thomas course and then spend a few hours before your trip crunching through useful vocab, Chinese is remarkably easy to get to a Dick-and-Jane level of communication, totally worth it considering the payoff.

>>2847054
>>2847137
This is the peak China experience anon, there are men on the other side of the planet who envy you right now.

Is military anon here? I want to know if it's a good idea to disclose previous military service? Do they have any power in the UK to check wether you served or not, and what you did?

>>2847692
I am a UK anon who disclosed military service and had zero issues with getting a visa. In fact, they gave me 2 years unlimited entry when I only asked for 1 year 1 entry (and the guy I went with only got that)

>>2847696
Wow that's pretty nice. Maybe they just get weird with US military with the spys and funny business invading your privacy. What did you do in the military? Do you think they can check anything? Or will they just be told to fuck off if they tried?

>>2847696
I forgot to mention, I didn't disclose it the first time. Will that come up also?

>>2847696
they usually give two years multiple entry by default if it's not your first time applying

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Does anyone worry about safety in China? I plan to wander aimlessly through remote boroughs of Shanghai when i go next year, but I wouldn't even consider doing the same in LA or Chicago. If I get liquored up at a family mart and try to find my way back to my hotel at 1am, which I plan on doing, is that a naive thing to do?

>>2847735
No, could look at you and be curious, but they won't do anything bad. They're kind, hospitable people. So please, do not give foreigners a bad reputation by stumbling around drunk. It's bad enough the English teachers lie about "leaving wall street" to go there and teach English.

Wife wants to go to Disney in Shanghai, Id like to go to shenzhen for electronics
She speaks English and fluent Japanese
I speak English and fluent German

Appreciate the language advice in here, anything else tip wise? Travel tips ? Good sources to learn about this?

I appreciate the langauge advice in here.
>>2847556
>Michel Thomas course
Would you prefer this over a couple months duolingo?

>>2847735
The streets are completely safe but if you go into some karaoke or bar everyone will see you as a walking ATM
People don't get mugged or robbed at knifepoint in China. But if you piss someone off a lot (or cheat them) and they have a knife nearby they may attempt to stab you. If someone feels they have absolutely no way out of a situation they may resort to violence.

>>2847737
Unfortunately all the English teachers already gave foreigners a terrible reputation in Shanghai lol
"国内的外国人没有一个好的“ is a common sentiment

>>2846421
I'm going after Christmas, never seen snow
Beijing - spend 3 days hanging out here checking sites out, spend 3 nights including the 31st Dec and 1st Jan at the great wall jinshanling section
Kaifeng or Luoyang - leaning towards luoyang
Xian
Zhangjiajie (probably will give this a miss in favour of having more chill time in Chengdu)
Chongqing (probably 2 nights here)
Chengdu (hang out here for a bit, maybe stay near the hailouguo Glacier National for a couple nights)

Any tips, any recs?
I've only booked Beijing and the great wall, hoping to just play it by ear but I have 3 weeks. Cheers

>>2847820
>never seen snow
Ha, enjoy! Where are you from? The concept of never seeing snow is so alien to me.

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>>2847820
it snowed in Beijing today, but it will only snow 5-6 times every winter. Beijing is too dry for frequent snow.
1st Jan is a holiday so the great wall will probably be busy
Luoyang is much better than Kaifeng, honestly don't go to Kaifeng it kinda sucks
Zhangjiajie will be deserted in midwinter

I lived in Beijing for a year, if you have any questions

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>>2847824
North Western Australia (pic related)
>>2847828
If I miss it I miss it, and I don't mind if one of the days the great wall is busy, I'll do the main site seeing before then.
Any must try local dishes you recommend for Beijing?

>>2847757
Does anyone recommend Duolingo these days? It sure won’t help you to speak. If you want to learn to read use Hanly.

>>2847836
well, definitely Peking roast duck 北京烤鸭, the best chain is 全聚德 (Quan ju de) but you can get good duck almost anywhere
also Beijing hotpot 北京火锅/青铜火锅 which is not spicy
naipizi 奶皮子 is a kind of yoghurt snack which I also recommend
and tanghulu 糖葫芦, candied fruit on a stick, which is not unique to Beijing but still very tasty

>>2847702
>Do you think they can check anything?
Honestly I don't know, I certainly doubt they bother doing an in-depth background check on every random guy that wants to come to China for tourism though. I saw some people online say that a lot of the more anal Q&A stuff in the visa app is only there because they use the same system for tourism and work visas, but barely check the tourism applications. I was just a grunt and didn't do anything that would be sensitive to a foreign state. Maybe int corps guys will get grilled? I didn't get a single question or anything like that, just handed my passport in and got it handed back with the stamp.

>>2847735
>Does anyone worry about safety in China? I plan to wander aimlessly through remote boroughs of Shanghai when i go next year, but I wouldn't even consider doing the same in LA or Chicago. If I get liquored up at a family mart and try to find my way back to my hotel at 1am, which I plan on doing, is that a naive thing to do?
Never had any safety issues in China, particularly not in T1 cities. Even random dudes in clubs are much more polite than people you see in other countries.

>>2847943
Thanks man

>>2847813
>"国内的外国人没有一个好的“ is a common sentiment
I do see some ultra creepy men every time I'm in Asian. And from how many anons speak here, I fear for the girls who cross paths with these "men".

>>2847813
>>2847985
99% of westerners in China in my experience are boomers in tour groups, bf/gf backpacker couples and the occasional foreign business rep (usually American). It is absolutely different in Shanghai though, lots of young Euros and Americans partying there.

>>2847985
>>2848072
tourists are usually fine, it's the expats (mostly English teachers) who in my experience are very weird and often creepy, not only to Chinese girls but foreigners as well
Also any sort of influencer or travel blogger is usually scum

>>2848130
I could see that being the case.

The men and women I see converting a look of awe from all the Asian novelties are typically thin, healthy, tall, and positive.

I've seen short and obese, short and sunken eyed, and short and belligerent men that appear to be expats lurking about in mall food courts, side streets, and middle of nowhere locations. They're arguing with women, or looking sweaty and impatient.

I know there are still good expats. I always saw Serpentza as somewhat awkward, but still a good person (until he moved to America, sold out, and boarded the propaganda train).

I fear for the vulnerable women these creepy expats prey on. I've seen footage of them being rough and heard stories of them sleeping with kids during nap time in English schools.

Their eyes don't reflect anything human, and they ought to be euthanized since they lack guilt, much like beasts.

>>2846421
Hi, I'm travelling to china soon and would like to know if any anons have stories or tips about local girls. Do they like tourists or nah? What is considered "hot" there?

Also I'll be there on new years. Any fun plans or places?

>>2848687
Nothing really happens on western new year in China, people get new years day off but they have to work on new year's eve. Usually they will just go out to dinner (restaurants will be packed, hour+ queue for most) and go home. No fireworks or anything because it's banned in cities so there are only gay balloon drone LED laser shows.
Probably the most exciting stuff happening on new year's is in the expat bars lol