>>2845951
>Huangshan solo hiking
there are "tourist areas" in the mountains with maintained trails, cable cars, signs, restaurants etc. That is where 99% of people go and is what Chinese people think of when you say "I am going to Huangshan". The Chinese "going up a mountain" experience is basically just taking a cablecar to the top, wandering around and taking some photos, then walking down.
Outside of the tourist areas, it is likely to be less well maintained, trails will exist between villages and stuff though. There is phone signal everywhere so you probably won't get lost.

>>2846348
>700-1000usd (5k-7k RMB) for 14-20 days of travel
so at most this is 500RMB/day and at worst 250RMB/day
I would say it really depends on how luxurious you want your trip to be. By staying in hostels and eating cheaper food I was able to spend around 100RMB/day at times.
Hostel will be 50-100/day. Cheap hotels and homestays maybe 100-150, but you need to make sure they take foreigners.
Food, again it depends on what you like. If you want western food all the time then it could easily be 200 for every meal. If you're willing to eat like locals do then you probably won't spend more than 60-70/day on food.
Attractions and tickets are cheap, very rarely over 100 rmb. You can also get discounted student tickets if applicable.
Getting around is super cheap with share bikes and taxis usually only like 20rmb for a short trip 50 for longer ones.
Train tickets can be expensive on the HSR (roughly 50rmb/100km, can be more). Sleeper trains and slow trains will save you more money.

It is totally feasible, the only constraint is accomodation. If you want to stay in a proper hotel everywhere it will be more difficult but not impossible.

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Can anyone recommend a good Tiananmen 1989 / 天安门 一九八九年 tour in Beijing?

I'm thinking of going to China for the first time in April, for 30 days.
Is this a reasonable itenary/loop?

Days 1-6: Beijing, one day to Tianjin
Days 7-10 Xian, one day at Mt Hua
Days 11-16 Chengdu(4) and Chongqing (2)
Days 17-20 Guilin/Yangshuo
Days 21-24 Guanzhou or Hong Kong
Days 25-30 Shanghai, one or two days in Hangzhou or Suzhou maybe

I could do it the other way round, like south-west-northeast, I havent really got anything settled.

Ive got WeChat, Alipay, Baidu maps and a bunch of other apps I am told are essential, what else should I bring along ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOQ1EHvR_c
is this (dense narrow winding streets with commieblocks and foliage layered on top of each other) representative of Chongqing at large or are only a couple places like this?

>>2846570
>doesn't help out the cute girl dropping all her stuff on the street
what a jerk

>>2846553
Looks pretty good, those are pretty much all of the entry level China cities. Amaps is good as well. Don't take your portable phone charger if you're doing domestic flights since you'll need to get one domestically that has the CC logo on it for regulatory reasons.

>>2846570
yeah that is representative of the areas which haven't been built in the last 15 years for the middle and upper middle classes. the residential buildings on the streets and roads are typical chinese residential areas. more modern ones are build behind walls and contained away from the streets. that video is standard china.

>>2846732
They actually take away your charger at the airport? Interesting

>>2846586
timestamp? that is jerk behaviour to be honest
>>2846736
China seems cool and I have nothing going for me, may as well become an English teacher over there desu

>>2846553
So you would spend all your time in cities (apart from Guilin and Yangshuo)? I will warn you that Chinese cities are ultimately the same at the end of the day, once you have seen all the historical and cultural stuff then there is not much left. Guangzhou and Shanghai are especially bad for this.

Also Tianjin is really really boring, just nothing at all going on. If you want a day trip from Beijing go to Datong or Chengde.

>>2846748
new policy because apparently EU certification (CE) powerbanks are dangerous
so they will confiscate them and not allow them on flights, you have to have the Chinese certification (CCC) instead

>>2846570
this is more dense than average, but pretty representative
most new developments are pre-planned neighbourhoods which are less dense than this

>>2846763
2:25 in

>>2846732
Yeah I thought it would give a good overall cover, of most of the core areas, I havent got any of the peripheral places like Yunnan, dongbei or the western parts. Regarding the CCC chargers, Ive heard the Chinese border folks are tight about that. I found a LISEN one on Amazon, should I buy one of these or just get one in China?

>>2846774
Yeah it is mostly cities. I do plan to do a few day trips, like Tianjin from Beijing, Mt Hua from Xian, Liantang village from Guangzhou.

I was thinking of adding a 3-4 day leg for Huangshan, mountains and villages between Guangzhou and Shanghai, but I felt it might be too rushed and Id have to cut back days in other places. Plus, its not like its going anywhere if I decide to go back.

As for Tianjin, I quite want to go there to see the Teda/Kiev aircraft carrier theme park. An ex Soviet aircraft carrier is hardly the pinnacle of Chinese culture but its something I'm interested in.

Did any of you learn some chinese before the trip?
I did one trip to Japan without any japanese and then a second one after learning enough for some basic conversations and the experience was vastly different for me, I wonder if the same would apply to China
Will probably postpone the trip to 2027 if it makes it a lot better as I don't have it in me to start learning it now

>>2846800
oh, in that case you should make sure you go to Binhai district in Tianjin not Tianjin city itself because the aircraft carrier is in Binhai
if you wanted to skip a city then the most skippable is Guangzhou or Chengdu

also you should bring deodorant, because it's super difficult to buy in China

>>2846805
I speak fluent Chinese so I haven't experienced this myself but some of my friends came who spoke zero Chinese and they were basically completely helpless and liable to get scammed at any moment; vs some friends who spoke basic Chinese and were much more able to get around and do stuff by themselves
basically nobody in China speaks English so it's best to know some

>>2846810
>basically nobody in China speaks English so it's best to know some
is this the case in the big cities too?

>>2846830
100%, and there's no language family cheese you can call upon, either.

>>2846830
yes, receptionists in hotels and attendants on trains and such might know basic English but they never use (most foreign tourists still go in groups so they don't have to talk to them) it so it's so bad as to be incomprehensible.

University graduates and students might have ok-ish English, providing that they actually use or practice it, which is rare. Also you won't interact with them day-to-day. The people who you will be talking to: sales clerks, tourist attraction clerks and guides, taxi drivers, waiters, random passers-by: all of them will know next to zero English.

It might be a tiny bit better in Shanghai than other places but desu I didn't notice much of a difference between big cities and small cities because like 70% of the people in big cities are migrants from the countryside and small cities

How do I meet qts to date in China, anons? They smile at me in the street and I smile back, but I don't want to ask every girl who smiles for her WeChat. They're so polite and wholesome. What are the apps to use if I want to take a girl on a nice date?

>>2846553
Bring a floppy diskette and whatever you want to put onto it

>>2846943
most of the western ones aren't blocked, and you are most likely to find English speakers there
there are loads of local apps but most people using them won't speak English

I like it here. Loneliness hit me today and I'm drinking some kind of 5% alcoholic lemon drink on a bench (there's a whole lemon slice inside) in a night market surrounded by people. I'd be too self-conscious to sit here sober. Would be lonelier back home. T-shirt weather and there's a breeze. Feels cozy to be around other folks even though I don't know what they're saying.

>>2847054
t-shirt weather? how far south are you? Hainan?
up north it is definitely not t-shirt weather

>>2846778
:(

>>2847068
Shenzhen. Where are you? Shout-out to the Finnish bro who approached me at the night market while I was ordering a sausage. Forgot to grab the order (3 RMB), but we talked for a few hours which made my night. I wish I was brave enough to solo travel Asia back in my early twenties, but I couldn't afford it anyway. The zoomers are alright and I'm buying him dinner if we meet again.

>>2847137
Beijing and Hebei soon

>>2846805
Pirate the Michel Thomas course and then spend a few hours before your trip crunching through useful vocab, Chinese is remarkably easy to get to a Dick-and-Jane level of communication, totally worth it considering the payoff.

>>2847054
>>2847137
This is the peak China experience anon, there are men on the other side of the planet who envy you right now.

Is military anon here? I want to know if it's a good idea to disclose previous military service? Do they have any power in the UK to check wether you served or not, and what you did?

>>2847692
I am a UK anon who disclosed military service and had zero issues with getting a visa. In fact, they gave me 2 years unlimited entry when I only asked for 1 year 1 entry (and the guy I went with only got that)

>>2847696
Wow that's pretty nice. Maybe they just get weird with US military with the spys and funny business invading your privacy. What did you do in the military? Do you think they can check anything? Or will they just be told to fuck off if they tried?

>>2847696
I forgot to mention, I didn't disclose it the first time. Will that come up also?

>>2847696
they usually give two years multiple entry by default if it's not your first time applying

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Does anyone worry about safety in China? I plan to wander aimlessly through remote boroughs of Shanghai when i go next year, but I wouldn't even consider doing the same in LA or Chicago. If I get liquored up at a family mart and try to find my way back to my hotel at 1am, which I plan on doing, is that a naive thing to do?

>>2847735
No, could look at you and be curious, but they won't do anything bad. They're kind, hospitable people. So please, do not give foreigners a bad reputation by stumbling around drunk. It's bad enough the English teachers lie about "leaving wall street" to go there and teach English.

Wife wants to go to Disney in Shanghai, Id like to go to shenzhen for electronics
She speaks English and fluent Japanese
I speak English and fluent German

Appreciate the language advice in here, anything else tip wise? Travel tips ? Good sources to learn about this?

I appreciate the langauge advice in here.
>>2847556
>Michel Thomas course
Would you prefer this over a couple months duolingo?

>>2847735
The streets are completely safe but if you go into some karaoke or bar everyone will see you as a walking ATM
People don't get mugged or robbed at knifepoint in China. But if you piss someone off a lot (or cheat them) and they have a knife nearby they may attempt to stab you. If someone feels they have absolutely no way out of a situation they may resort to violence.

>>2847737
Unfortunately all the English teachers already gave foreigners a terrible reputation in Shanghai lol
"国内的外国人没有一个好的“ is a common sentiment

>>2846421
I'm going after Christmas, never seen snow
Beijing - spend 3 days hanging out here checking sites out, spend 3 nights including the 31st Dec and 1st Jan at the great wall jinshanling section
Kaifeng or Luoyang - leaning towards luoyang
Xian
Zhangjiajie (probably will give this a miss in favour of having more chill time in Chengdu)
Chongqing (probably 2 nights here)
Chengdu (hang out here for a bit, maybe stay near the hailouguo Glacier National for a couple nights)

Any tips, any recs?
I've only booked Beijing and the great wall, hoping to just play it by ear but I have 3 weeks. Cheers

>>2847820
>never seen snow
Ha, enjoy! Where are you from? The concept of never seeing snow is so alien to me.

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>>2847820
it snowed in Beijing today, but it will only snow 5-6 times every winter. Beijing is too dry for frequent snow.
1st Jan is a holiday so the great wall will probably be busy
Luoyang is much better than Kaifeng, honestly don't go to Kaifeng it kinda sucks
Zhangjiajie will be deserted in midwinter

I lived in Beijing for a year, if you have any questions

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>>2847824
North Western Australia (pic related)
>>2847828
If I miss it I miss it, and I don't mind if one of the days the great wall is busy, I'll do the main site seeing before then.
Any must try local dishes you recommend for Beijing?

>>2847757
Does anyone recommend Duolingo these days? It sure won’t help you to speak. If you want to learn to read use Hanly.

>>2847836
well, definitely Peking roast duck 北京烤鸭, the best chain is 全聚德 (Quan ju de) but you can get good duck almost anywhere
also Beijing hotpot 北京火锅/青铜火锅 which is not spicy
naipizi 奶皮子 is a kind of yoghurt snack which I also recommend
and tanghulu 糖葫芦, candied fruit on a stick, which is not unique to Beijing but still very tasty

>>2847702
>Do you think they can check anything?
Honestly I don't know, I certainly doubt they bother doing an in-depth background check on every random guy that wants to come to China for tourism though. I saw some people online say that a lot of the more anal Q&A stuff in the visa app is only there because they use the same system for tourism and work visas, but barely check the tourism applications. I was just a grunt and didn't do anything that would be sensitive to a foreign state. Maybe int corps guys will get grilled? I didn't get a single question or anything like that, just handed my passport in and got it handed back with the stamp.

>>2847735
>Does anyone worry about safety in China? I plan to wander aimlessly through remote boroughs of Shanghai when i go next year, but I wouldn't even consider doing the same in LA or Chicago. If I get liquored up at a family mart and try to find my way back to my hotel at 1am, which I plan on doing, is that a naive thing to do?
Never had any safety issues in China, particularly not in T1 cities. Even random dudes in clubs are much more polite than people you see in other countries.

>>2847943
Thanks man

>>2847813
>"国内的外国人没有一个好的“ is a common sentiment
I do see some ultra creepy men every time I'm in Asian. And from how many anons speak here, I fear for the girls who cross paths with these "men".

>>2847813
>>2847985
99% of westerners in China in my experience are boomers in tour groups, bf/gf backpacker couples and the occasional foreign business rep (usually American). It is absolutely different in Shanghai though, lots of young Euros and Americans partying there.

>>2847985
>>2848072
tourists are usually fine, it's the expats (mostly English teachers) who in my experience are very weird and often creepy, not only to Chinese girls but foreigners as well
Also any sort of influencer or travel blogger is usually scum

>>2848130
I could see that being the case.

The men and women I see converting a look of awe from all the Asian novelties are typically thin, healthy, tall, and positive.

I've seen short and obese, short and sunken eyed, and short and belligerent men that appear to be expats lurking about in mall food courts, side streets, and middle of nowhere locations. They're arguing with women, or looking sweaty and impatient.

I know there are still good expats. I always saw Serpentza as somewhat awkward, but still a good person (until he moved to America, sold out, and boarded the propaganda train).

I fear for the vulnerable women these creepy expats prey on. I've seen footage of them being rough and heard stories of them sleeping with kids during nap time in English schools.

Their eyes don't reflect anything human, and they ought to be euthanized since they lack guilt, much like beasts.

>>2846421
Hi, I'm travelling to china soon and would like to know if any anons have stories or tips about local girls. Do they like tourists or nah? What is considered "hot" there?

Also I'll be there on new years. Any fun plans or places?

>>2848687
Nothing really happens on western new year in China, people get new years day off but they have to work on new year's eve. Usually they will just go out to dinner (restaurants will be packed, hour+ queue for most) and go home. No fireworks or anything because it's banned in cities so there are only gay balloon drone LED laser shows.
Probably the most exciting stuff happening on new year's is in the expat bars lol

>>2847137
I've been in China for about two weeks now. It's a bit lonely due to the language barrier, but I'm on floor 30 overlooking the city and smoking indoors as it's permitted here although I'm not a smoker.

Regret not exchanging WeChat contacts with the cuties who smiled at me flirtatiously, but I'm rather distrustful of people who approach me.

Everything's smooth once you figure out the apps, but let know if you have any questions, anons.

does anyone have experience skiplagging with Chinese airlines? I have discovered that a flight from London to Seoul via China is like half the price of a direct flight to China but am worried about getting banned/jailed/my anus tickled by Xi Jinping
my plan would be
>buy ticket to Seoul
>bring hand luggage only
>get off at Shanghai and leave airport
>if questioned just say I took too long on the toilet and my flight left without me
then for the way back
>fly to Seoul
>take the same airline back to London (it's only like £137 which is insane)

>>2849116
Alone at the top

>>2849129
They’ll ask for your plane tickets when you go in. If you say you missed your flight, they’ll make you get on whatever flight is next. They’re not stupid and they don’t let people enter with loopholes.

>>2849129
Come on

>>2849141
hmm maybe just don't mention it then
I have a valid tourist visa, not going to use a transit visa. They shouldn't need to see any plane tickets.

>>2849143
My guess is, if the airline is a Chinese one, they won't budge. Otherwise they don't care if United, Lufthansa or whatever gets screwed. Chinese people protect their own business interests.

>>2849145
yes, it would probably be China Eastern or China Southern
shouldn't I just be able to show them the London-Shanghai ticket? it shouldn't matter if I have a ticket going to Seoul as well or not, in regards to entering the country

>>2849146
I'm guessing and you're asking me to guess more.

My intuition, built from what I read in the past, tells me airlines seethe from skiplaggers. And the Chinese government has hooks into big businesses like it's airlines.

Try it and report back here. If it's 137 pounds, you can swallow a 1k pound fine and still break even.

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Oh yes yes yes

>>2849157
Chongqingers never stfu about 'muh spicy food'. It's even that spicy, kek. Though I like the numbing effect it has.

Conversation with a local:
>have you ever tried spicy hotpot?
>have you ever tried spicy hotpot?
>have you ever tried spicy hotpot?

>>2849155
The return is 137
Flying out is ~220
I could even do it so I have to change airports in Shanghai so I simply leave the first airport and don't go to the second one lol, I have a tourist visa it's not illegal
Or I could take Turkmenistan airlines which is not direct but also only about ~250 quid
So in theory I could do
250 London-Beijing, 60 Beijing-Seoul, 140 Seoul-London
Only £450 for a round-trip to China plus a trip to Korea if I wanted
Even cheaper than Turkmenistan airlines round-trip which is about £500

>>2849157
Errrrm Hunan food is spicier

>>2849160
How could the food be any hotter. They give you a plate of sliced chillies with meat imbedded in it. Or a soup of liquid chili with stuff in it that are infused with said soup. Do they just squirt the chili into your eyes while you're sitting at your table in Human? I don't know why makes it hotter in your opinion

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Anyone know if there are any interesting 3rd tier cities I can get the fast train to from Fuzhou? I want to spend maximum 2 hours travelling, maybe a bit more if it's super worth it

>>2849163
Hunan chillis are spicier than Sichuan/Chongqing chillis

>>2849164
Putian - fake shoe factory of the world and home to a lot of Mazu temples
Shantou - lots of overseas Chinese come from there
Meizhou - Hakka cultural centre

Traveling to shanghai in feb for a week, can anyone reccomend sea food spots and all you can eat buffet spots where I can pig out? Im planning to almost starve myself in preparation for that

I'm thinking of doing the full 10 day transit visa visit. I don't know if or when I'll have the opportunity to do this again, solo.

I'm wondering what novel experiences would be available, compared to Taiwan, Vietnam, or Japan. Are the friendly and hospitable locals a significant feature of the mainland?

>>2849116
I'm curious what you're thoughts are on this since you've been there for 2 weeks solo, and are chilling in a hotel room.

>>2849240
>Putian
What's the appeal of a shoe factory?Never heard of mazu temples, I'll check out some photos.
>Shantou
What's the appeal of going to the home of Chinese immigrants?
>Meizhou
What does the cultural centre entail? Is it like Chongqing with old/recreated old building and people dressed up to be taken photos with?

The Mazu temples are pretty impressive, I guess I just wasn't familiar with the name, but obviously seen some before. Seems like more of a tourist attraction though so I'll give them a miss

This is the one general that puzzles me. Why doesnt anyone here post photos of their trip?

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>>2849293
You like?

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>>2849295
>>2849295

>>2849295
>2024
>You like?
Not particularly, I prefer boots on the ground, but I'll take it. Thank you.
>that saggy ass
It's wild how lady asses are so prevalent in here. Back home I never really notice older lady asses, but here they're like south poles of a magnet and my eyes are a magnetic north pole. Popping round asses, panty lines, frumpy W shaped cheeks, small and firm, baggy boot cut jeans, dump truck girths, pitiful and sickly. There's a lot of observe. One could build an entire catalog dedicated to the subject of bottom aesthetics.

>>2849297
>>2849296
Here we go, yes. Thank you.

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>>2849300
What makes my first photo not boots on the ground.

Your comment is intriguing, confusing in parts. Why would you notice old lady Asses more in China? Where you're guaranteed to see saggy or flat, unimpressive Asses. You also mention you appreciate the the variety, which they have less of too. I do agree with your statement about the variety of shapes and structures interesting though. I actually thought about making a book in Asses for this reason. There are even categories of Asses specific to ethnic groups

>>2849308
The filenames of your images suggest they were taken in 2024. The current year is 2025. I'm sure you can empathize with me now - it appears you're posting from home, a year after taking these photos, thus your boots are at home, not on the ground, in China.

I don't know why. Maybe it's because I'm going outside more. Maybe it's because I actually "would". Probably both.

Maybe I don't understand your post, but you see to contradict yourself with the variety statements. Anyway, we seem to agree there is a ton of variety, although relative to a place like America, the variety is less, yes.

I'd love to see how you categorize it.

Btw it feels like I'm talking to myself right now. We are writing similarly.

>>2849247
I would strongly advise you NOT to eat at buffets in China
I ate at a buffet once and got food poisoning, they are incredibly unhygenic
Food is so cheap that it's probably better to just order stuff separately

>>2849288
You can buy tons of fake shoes in putian
Idk what the cultural centre is like but it's where the Hakka museum is and is one of the last few places in the mainland where most people speak Hakka

>>2849289
You are asking too much of tier 3 cities lol

>>2849312
Haha maybe we're brothers, where are you from?
Oh literally boots on the ground right now, well I can't help you there, I was there last year and going again next year.

I definitely couldn't put the categories into words but there are 5 major types. However the 2 most significant separations are ones that have clear separations of the cheeks caused by a healthy around of muscle mass that create a crevice at the top (think of a martini glass) and at the bottom the cheeks are open like to circles touching, if you can imagine this. Which also created and cheeky hang of varies degrees depending of size, from the rounder shape.
The other type is more of a line, with no crevice at the top, you could place your hand down flat above the crack where it meets the back and there would be no space beneath your palm. The cheeks are together, because if lack of strucle. And at the bottom it's totally closed too with no over hang, but instead creases imply two cheeks where the thing meets the Ass

>>2849314
Hahah I promise I'm not asking for much, the opposite. I don't mind if there isn't "much to do" I'm not interested in must see attraction. Well unless it really is a fucking must see.

>last few places in the mainland where most people speak Hakka

Now this is something special! That's what you travel for.

Tier 3 is good for me as long as there's some character, interesting look or feel of the city, weirdness.

>>2849319
It's spoken in a few places on Taiwan, I think it has protected language status or something there

>>2849317
I don't have any brothers, my best friends are imaginary.

Some photos would help me imagine these categories. I don't know which angle the descriptions are detailing these asses from. It seems like from above, looking down, but also from a side profile.

I have 0 ass photos like yours from my 4 week trip. I guess you got lucky.

>>2849321
Hahah you are a funny fella

Also, can't post asses on trv

How the fuck do you get the number for your SIM card? This was my biggest peeve there. Understatement, I was fucking seething. Why not just have it in the packet?

>>2849395
You can check it in the "SIM card information" section of your phone

>>2846421

>>2849324
Thought of you today while walking behind a auntie with a popping ass. Taking a photo crossed my mind, but I want to be a good man. That would cause her to lose some dignity. Not nice.

xi'an 2 days
changdu 4 days, also see the giant budda and qingchengshan
chongqing 3 days, also go to wulong day trip
zhangjiajie 3 days
shanghai 4 days, also see a water town
beijing 4 days, one day for great wall.

thoughts on this plan? what things would you recommend to do in said places? already planned a little my itinerary, just looking for things to fill up the days. i know that most places are big and take time to visit and travel to.

>>2849516
Do you have to start from Xi'an? It would be better to start in Beijing and finish in Shanghai. The rest of the plan is ok
>Xi'an 2 days
Imo not enough
Terracotta warriors takes easily an entire day
And there's so much more to do, like Buddhist temples, pagodas, the city wall, shaanxi history museum etc...
I would advise you see AT LEAST: the big crane pagoda (da ci'en temple), Xi'an city museum, the Hui quarter and Xi'an great mosque
Avoid the "tang night city" or furong park they are incredibly boring
>Beijing 4 days
Also see the forbidden city and summer palace
Temple of heaven very good too
Hundreds of museums go to whichever one you're interested in but if you want to go to the national museum make sure to reserve tickets a week in advance
Nanluoguxiang market is overrated and sells nothing but overpriced food and mass-produced tat

>>2849518
ty for your reply. i already checked those places on my itinerary. i found in xi'an this place called qinglong temple which supposedly has 1000 sakura trees

>>2849421
Ah right I'll try that. Hopefully it works. When I was there cabs refused to make an appointment with me to drive me back to the airport on my last night :( I stayed up all night trying to get help and nobody even wanted to help me, it was a real panic. Last resort I went to a fruit shop and two teenage boys and a girl sorted it out for me

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>>2849514
Kek don't be a faggot, that woman would squeeze every penny out of you and leave you bankrupt and sobbing if the opportunity came. No harm done by a little snap, maybe she'd even be flattered. But anyway no middle aged a Chinese woman's ass pops out, so I don't believe it for a second.
I appreciate you thinking of me by the way, you condjured up my spirit, I could taste that ass at that moment you saw it. Have this long haired girl

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>>2849548
wholly fucking kek too funny, you've strengthen my resolve to snap a pretty portrait of a petite, plump and POPPING awesome asian auntie ass. I'll get it done tomorrow, or else.

happy weekend, similar writing style sister.

>>2849549
Hahaha alright man, I'll be expecting it. You still haven't said where you're from

>>2849522
Beijing has pretty much everything it just depends what you want to do
>>2849548
偷拍...

>>2849579
;) 好的

>>2848306
nta you are responding to.

On the serpentZA point I can see why he went to the US. He was skating on thin ice with his youtube stuff being considered journalism. When covid started ramping up he probably weighed his options. 1. Stay and end up in a ((covid hospital)) 2. Go back to South Africa (lol) 3. Move to the US and double down on anti ccp stuff to at least have some kind of economic future for himself/famiily.

Stopped following the advchina videos just because I felt they lost the plot on the political stuff. Can still understand from a practicality stand point why they did it tho. They probably didn't have a future in China anyways.

>>2849571
Okay, be patient, I had a late start today because I got invited out to a kino bar last night by a local girl, and all the aunties are hiding today.

You seem like a fellow Canuck or an Aussie. Am I right?

When I'm in full stride, HYPED from caffeine, or just in a cheerful mood, I walk through crowds and desperately want to spinorama people that are in my path. The satisfaction from that would be remarkable. Surely a westerner knows what that is, but in case you don't, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUba1Rsnv4

I'm in some backwater town and folks are puzzled by my presence here. Sometimes it freaks me out because it can be interpreted as a hint that I should leave. I believe they're just curious and haven't really considered the possible connotations of their question. Multiple locals actually told me to come here because of the natural beauty, but there is a minimal amount of attractions. It's like they thought I would be entertained by sitting on a bench watching the countryside for a week kek. Everyone is trying to troll the foreigner. Oh well, I am happy avoiding tourists and I've secured a few food and caffeine sources that don't wreak havoc on my system.

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>>2849571
>>2849548
Maybe you're right, I think I just got fleeced by a charming woman at the market. $25 for a little xmas ornament, off.

>>2849620
Where exactly?
>>2849630
Bruh how tf did you drop 200 yuan on some random tat

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>>2849643
>waiting for drink at cafe
>I should practice chinese
>compliment girl's hat
>tells me she made it herself
>tells me she has a stall at the nearby market
>ok cool, have a nice day
>finish at cafe
>swoop by her stall
>look at selection
>see small, cute ornament
>ok why not
>pick it up
>"I'll get this"
>"220 yuan"

>>2849653
And you didn't even try to haggle or pick something else?
Don't let people take advantage of you like that (hint: almost everyone there sees you as a walking ATM)
No matter how friendly people are they will always try to get money for themselves in the end. One time I had a taxi driver who was really nice and we had a good chat about infrastructure and Urumqi people, and then at the end he tried to triple overcharge me lmao

>>2849659
No I did not try to haggle cus I was choking hard on that unexpected price, I am somewhat socially retarded. I was a simp and it did not feel good nor honorable. I'm sorry anon, I'm sorry self

Did you tell the taxi driver to fuck off? How did you grasp that situation?

>>2849660
He asked for 80, I laughed and told him that the price was outrageous, said 30, he said 50, I kept saying 30 until he took it.
(Should have started from 20 desu)
You shouldn't insult people when haggling just be firm and show that you can walk away at any moment. Also he knew he was overcharging me so he wasn't going to fight that hard.
Just remember for next time not to accept bullshit prices ok

atm sisters... let's do better

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>>2849620
Ermmm well it is an Ass I guess.
I already told you where I'm from. So you're Australian then.
That place sounds great, I love these kinds of towns. Places that see foreigners every day get bored, even annoyed with interacting with them and it's no fun. What's the name of the town you're in? Maybe I'll visit in march too

Thinking of taking a 16 day trip to China, first time. I dont want to see overload and see everything I can possibly see, I dont travel much so Ill take it easier.

Plan looks something like Beijing, Xian, Chengdu and finish in Shanghai, 4 days in each. I know its a bit basic but its my first time in China. I might swap Chendu for Zhangjiajie or Guilin/Yangshuo or Guangzhou.

>>2849708
Stupid phone. I didn't mean to attach that photo

>>2849709
Guangzhou is boring AF as a tourist
Maybe try to fit in some nature instead of just spending all your time in big cities

>>2849716
Well I am a bit afraid of turning up in somewhere like ZJJ or Yangshuo and it just being a sea of domestic chinese tourists, it would destroy any sort of vibe i wanted to achieve by going to such a place to begin with. Ive heard horror stories about it, but maybe in April it mightn be too busy.

Also, I am considering a different itenary: Beijing -> Pingyao -> Luoyang or Xian -> Huangshan -> Hangzhou. More off the main tourist areas but still worthwhile.

>>2849733
>Sea of domestic Chinese tourists
You only get that in the first week of October, first week of May, Chinese new year, and school holidays in July. April will be fine.
Also, the cities in your original plan are all 10 million+ population and are seas of people no matter the time of year.

Your other itinerary is good. Much more diverse and lets you see many sides of the country instead of just the absolute biggest cities lol

So ive seen a youtuber that travelled through japan and korea via a bike and eating local food, is china safe enough to do that to an extent?

>>2849768
yes, I think I've seen western YouTubers do similar things
The only issues would be harassment from the police in "sensitive" regions and the environment being a lot less forgiving than those countries

>>2849835
>those tuoxie
guangdigga spotted

>touch down
>mentally start playing the HK soundtrack from Deus Ex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqv75ANPik

>>2850544
J

how easy would it be to try to go hitchhike from Xinjiang to Guangzhou? from what I've seen you can enter and move around Xinjiang with no issue you just gotta check in with the police often

>>2850572
I was in Xinjiang for two weeks this year in the summer. There are no limits on movement but there is a heavy police presence and naturally they are suspicious of foreigners and ask for your passport often/report your presence to HQ. I stayed in hotels and hostels and travelled by trains and was questioned at every train station.
Hitchhiking (as a foreigner) will probably be viewed with even more suspicion. Xinjiang was the only place I saw people hitchhiking in China but they were all locals. If you can't speak Chinese I think it would be very hard to explain to drivers what you want or to the police what you're doing.
Xinjiang has very few hotels/hostels which can take foreigners, so if you stop in some small town without a hotel that takes foreigners you're kinda fucked. They won't let you sleep there and if the police find you're there without registering you will be in trouble.

As for hitchhiking in general, I have seen youtubers do it but it's very uncommon now. Most people use this thing called 顺风车 which lets you find people going the same way as you and pay them a little bit of money to act as your long-distance taxi.

I wouldn't attempt it unless you have good Chinese skills and are OK with being frequently stopped and interrogated, not being picked up for days, etc etc

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>>2850544
I wish the Chinese developed more of a taste for this kind of music or really any genre beyond the usual C-Pop fare. I like their LED cities and futuristic architecture, but the music they listen to doesn't match. Their musical sensibilities are quite "third world" so to speak, in the sense that it's mostly soapy ballads about muh love muh heart and shit. I still prefer it to K-Pop corpo garbage but I've never felt a desire to go out of my way to listen to it.

>>2850807
No one has ever voiced this opinion before. I totally agree. The masses here, and even the ones who go study abroad, somehow find meaning and significance in generic, love fantasy/ideals music.

I've guessed what the lyrics were from singers voice (I don't know Chinese), and was told I was right. Just "I want you so much, I love you, but it's never that easy. Oh how painful". No metaphors, symbolism, or depth. Rudimentary sentences 9 year olds are capable of understanding on a first listen.

But then, you see how modest Chinese people are, the 为道 they manifest, and contrast that to the polarizing, or arrogant, or riff raff popular music in the west, and then you appreciate the modest simplicity of it all.

The west still makes the best music, it's unfortunate it also includes the worst too. Japan is quite good too. I will never cease enjoying vocaloid

Has a home for a left over itinerary for Fuzhou

>>2850807
>>2850822
obviously, there's Chinese music other than the pop ballads you described. I would rec Omnipotent Youth Society and Cui Jian as starting points for getting into Chinese rock, which is much more complex.

also 为道 isn't a word. did you mean 味道?

>>2851176
Oh yes, I meant 无为

I have a problem. I’m going to go visit china next month. And I’m not excited at all

I really wanted to visit china pre covid when I was in college. It’s all I wanted to do. I would watch endless YouTube videos about it. I ended up marrying a Chinese girl that I met and collage.

This will be my first visit to Asia in general, and for some reason. I’m not excited at all.

>>2851456
is it the long flight?
is the lust gone because you're locked in?
has your soul died from adulthood?

>>2851456
Why do you have to get excited about travel? There's about thirty seconds of excitement when the engines spool up and the plane leaves the runway, then it's back to baseline for the next twelve hours. ADD types and their addiction to constant stimulation is so fucking annoying. I prefer to keep my mind empty before travel, so that I can focus on dealing with whatever problems arise after I arrive.

>>2849716
There are some decent bars there for stuff like live rock music with a good atmosphere. Stay away from party pier though.

>>2849160
Hunan is a much more dry barbecue style my coworkers said in their opinion. Sichuan has perhaps some more depth to their spicy dishes often

Im living and working in shenzhen if there's any normal types with only a minimal level of autism and arent a deadbeat alcoholic (my liver can't take all the drinking I am already doing sometimes) .

>>2846553
Hi i dont know much about China and am in the super early stages of planning, is this itinerary good for a first timer? What would people recommend?

>>2846553
this is a pretty boring itinerary, having been to china 7+ times i get bored after staying in the country more than 10 days
imo you are spending too much time in boring cities. understand, pretty much all chinese cities are boring. i get very bored in chinese cities unless i know someone to visit. only spend time in a chinese city if you actually have something you want to do, otherwise don't stay. they all look the same and have the exact same feel.
I personally find beijing quite boring, i'd cut time out of there. and why even visit tianjin. that's even more boring.
Add more time to Hong Kong, like 4-5 days, add 1 day to macau to check it off. Add Nanjing, it was the former capital of China. The city name literally means "south capital". I also enjoy Shenzhen, you can day trip there from Hong Kong.
>>2846943
bumble is not banned
>>2847757
take her to hong kong disneyland it's right next to shenzhen u can do both.
15 mins by train from hong kong to shenzhen
>>2849129
I have skiplagged chinese airlines, specifically china southern, and nothing happened. I flew Waiguo -> Guangzhou -> Shanghai and got off at Guangzhou. Entered normally on visa. granted i did not fly with the airline for months afterward.

>>2849247
why the fuck would you do that, food in china is so cheap anyways. i completely stuffed myself at a skewer spot for 50 yuan
>>2849768
there is no threat of physical harm or robbery in china, there are cameras literally everywhere. anything caught on camera will addressed by the police if you report it to them. the police have to hit their KPIs. but minor financial crimes (scamming or overcharging) do happen and are not uncommon.
>>2852193
no.
do not trust any information pre-covid. china changes so fast, any information from before then is out of date.

>>2846421
Anybody been to Xinjiang? Got an invite to spend new year celebrations there. Any random advice or thing to be aware of?

Probably looking at Xian/Chengdu - Urumqi - Almaty.

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Guys I am going to China for the fist time and will be spending 4-5 days in China. Is 2 Days in Chongqing and 2-3 days in Shanghai good?

Shanghai or Guangzhou for LBH late bloomer TEFL gap year?
which is better for meeting people in their 20s, dating art hoes and meeting underground music/culture people? Also I won't be able to learn Chinese for shit do the zoomer out there speak any English at all?

Shanghai or Beijing for first timer?

>>2849116
>Regret not exchanging WeChat contacts with the cuties who smiled at me flirtatiously,
Suffering from success

>>2846593
Americans are so fucked up. US has higher animal abuse problem than China. Even shock collars for dogs are legal in US while illegal in other countries.

https://people.com/texas-man-sentenced-to-40-years-prison-after-abusing-killing-cats-11700300

>>2846553
Looks like my itinerary, but in reverse lol. Still in the early planning stages, though.
>>2852521
Gf has been to Xian before and advised against it. We have not considered Guilin/Yangshuo, Guanzhou or Hong Kong. What do you think of Qingdao? Also Tianjin to visit relatives. I want to see the countryside, forests and mountains. I'm a bit afraid that my gf is a cityslicker, as she studied in Shanghai.

About to book a flight to Kunming, just read some where else a claim of there not being much to do. Hope I don't regret it. The other choice was Nanning but decided against it. Those two are the only cities with good weather late march-early april

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