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Been all over the world and still somehow never done SEA.

My plan is to start in Thailand and work my way through Laos and Cambodia and then do Vietnam north to south. Then if I have time/money left maybe fly to either Philippines, Taiwan, or Malaysia etc.

But what do you experts recommend? Is laos worth it? How much time in each country? Which cities/towns/regions are must gos? I'm going to stay in hostels and mostly play things by ear. I think I'd have probably 5-6 months max since I got some shit I gotta do when I'm done.

I'd probably leave in Feb
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>>2847099
Show us your draft plan and lets take it from there.
Also, what are you looking to get from the trip? Any hobbies? Interests?
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>>2847100
Honestly All I have planned is I'd fly into Bankok and I want to spend some time in the Northern forests around Chiang Mai and see Pattaya just because it's so infamous. I'm not a huge party/cub guy but I'm not opposed to it if it's a social thing to do with people I meet at hostels.

Then I want to maybe cut through Cambodia into Vietnam, work my way up then cut through Laos and then decide what to do from there if I fly to another country.

I love history even if it's boring/mundane stuff I love learning shit i'd never know unless I travelled there. I want to spend some time in monasteries even if it's for western people like me I just think it'll be a nice change of pace for a few weeks. Any outdoor stuff is a huge plus but I'm mostly looking for that big bustling vibrant city feel and getting lost walking around with nothing to do.

I'd also like to volunteer if there are any places you know that accept foreigners on short term basis. I don't even care what it is I just found that volunteering at places is a good way to learn about the country and meet people.
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>>2847101
I'm also interested in maybe doing some stuff in South China. But I know that'll be a VIsa hassle and I'd have to try and get my visa in one of the embassies in SEA.
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>>2847105
Hainan is visa free, and you can game the 10 day Chinese 'transit visa'. Mention in another thread I did:
>Chengdu (entered China)
>Xian
>Chonqing
>Flight to HK (to satisfy exit of transit visa)
>Flight to Hainan (30 days visa free)

Singapore - Hainan was cheap when I last looked, which means you could hook up to Indonesia and Malaysia easily.
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>>2847101
>volunteer
Can always try these:
https://www.workaway.info/

Never tried it myself, and it costs like €40 to join. Some other anons have said it's legit.
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>>2847108
Oh nice this is good to know. I'd love to do Hainan. I'll think about flying further afield in China for the transit visa if I have the funds.
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With 5-6 months Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam is easily achievable.

For me, I'd suggest Bangkok as an initial base and check out the south depending on the weather at the time of year - gulf side and indian ocean side tend to be inverted - then head north to Chiang Mai / Pai / Chiang Rai. If you want, you can get the slow boat down the Mekong from Houyxay to Luang Prabang. Laos now has a fast train courtesy of China, you can use that to go south to Vang Vieng and Vientiane. From this point you could re-enter Thailand and explore Issan or continue through Laos down to Pakse. Cambodia is worth it for Angkor Wat and Phnom Penh, and Sihanoukville if you're missing the beach. Although, Phu Quoc in Vietnam is not far either. Vietnam south to north is well established - Mekong Delta, Saigon, Dalat, Nha Trang, Hoi An/Denang/Hue, Hanoi, Ninh Binh, Ha Long Bay, Sapa, Ha Giang Loop. Vietnam has a lot going on.
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>>2847101
How are you getting from Chiang Mai to Laos?
I've come close to doing the speedboat thing but it's a risky journey
Otherwise you're wasting days traveling back to Bangers and then Vientiane which isn't really the main place people go for Laos
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>>2847099
Just go to Bali and Thailand and then once you’ve been to Thailand too many times (as far as customs is concerned) then go to Vietnam.
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>>2847411
there are direct flights you know. also speedboats haven't been a thing for a while. you mean slowboats? doesn't seem too dangerous
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>>2847411
Where should I go in Laos? Is it safe pretty much everywhere besides the Chinese border as long as I follow Curfew?
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>>2847329
>Sihanoukville if you're missing the beach
How is Sihanoukville currently? Did the Chinese move on from their casinos and scam centers there and it return to a normal beach town?
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>>2847508
I'd be more concerned about Russians in Nha Trang to be honest.
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>>2847431
if you want to avoid tourists, the drive from vientiane to xieng khouang is nice. you can stop in longxan (anouvong city) which has some spectacular landscapes, a cave and the "bald head hills" where trees won't grow for some reason so it's just nice green grass. xieng khouang is also nice, not visited by tourists and has some of the most beautiful landscapes in laos, with pine trees and things you wouldn't expect in a SEA country.

in dry season, 4000 islands is nice with its mekong beaches but the dolphins disappeared long ago. thakkek area has nice karst mountains where you can do ziplining type stuff and a big cave. the biggest cave in laos is actually close to vientiane but is not currently accessible (only by long boat ride and there is no infrastructure inside). also near vientiane is Phou Khao Khwai, a kind of national park. from the top of it, you can look out over the Nam Ngum reservoir, which is the biggest lake in Laos, also not visited much by tourists
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>>2847108
i was planning to do a asia loop, but not sure on china, i thought you needed a visa for china?
i plan on hitting HK/macao regardless
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Laos is only good for nature, but you can find that in Thailand too if you try. FYI Malaysia is the best country in the whole peninsula for beaches, nature, and classy people. Not that you need to complicate your trip more. You'll have to do the motorbike thing at some point in your journey and let's face it, it's gotta be in Vietnam.

>>2847552
There's absolutely no reason to go to China when Taiwan exists with no visa BS and you won't get Warmbier'd for having yuri smut on your phone. Good place to go when you're 4 months in and sick of the filth, noise, brown people and bus station hassle, and trust me you will need such a place. Hainan can lick Taiwan's balls; you will never be Hawaii.
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>>2847554
well this was my plan japan 3 weeks > busan/seoul > Beijing > chongqing > macao > HK > maybe thailand > back to japan 2 weeks-ish
but ive been kinda meh on china the more i look at it, you recommend taiwain? im not super attached to going to south korea either, but i do wanna hit a couple countries then head back to japan, whats a "loop" youd go for ?
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>>2847525
>I'd be more concerned about Russians in Nha Trang
Why? Neither place seems like it would be dangerous for westerners, just weird vibes and not much party scene?
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>>2847552
>Visa for China
They have a 10 day transit-visa on arrival option, which you can look into.

>>2847554
>No reason to go to China
lmao. Everybody should go to China at least once. It's an incredibly interesting place.
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>>2847554
Barring the glaringly obvious fact that Taiwan is a small island, while the P.R.C. is a continent-sized country. Anyway, both Taiwan and Hainan get cloudy AF in wintertime. They are not tropical like the Caribbean with its sunny dry winters.
>>2847099
If you're an impatient travel who wants to "do" the highlights of the entire region, you should skip Laos. It's a country where a short bus journey is a tiring all-day affair that leaves you hardly any time or energy to do anything else.
>I'm going to stay in hostels
Then don't complain about how SEA is so westernized and full of Instagram roasties, because hostels are always found in those kind of places.
>>2847101
Don't waste your time with Pattaya. Visit the Nana area while you're in Bangkok if you just want to gawk.
>>2847411
Go to Chiang Rai, then Chiang Khong and cross into Houayxay on Bridge 4.
>>2847554
Motorbikes suck. They are the worst thing about Southeast Asia. Noisy, polluting machines ridden by assholes who are too lazy to walk.
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>>2847603
>Everybody should go to China at least once. It's an incredibly interesting place.
Everybody should go to USA at least once for that matter. But neither is comparable to SEA. The factors that make people want to go to Thailand are not the same as the reasons people go to China.
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Bali has a reputation for a reason. Amazing place, just get out of Kuta. Jakarta is a playground, but a hellhole as a backpacker. Unless you have connections, stick to the islands.
Malaysia is an acquired taste, the more I go to KL the more I like it, but it doesn't pop like the rest of SEA.
Bangkok is interesting but overrated, Chiang Mai is the best place in Thailand if you want to eat like a king, be treated extremely well by locals, explore the mountains on your motorbike and smash uni student bush. If you want to be a degenerate and spend all your money go to the islands.
Vietnam is cool, not as good as Thailand imo but same vibe.
Cambodia is significantly less developed. Siem Reap is a dustbowl and the poverty is real, but an interesting place.
Hong Kong is only worth a few days, nice place but too expensive, same with Singapore.
A tranny sucked me off in Macau, her name was Danica Fajardo.
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>>2847791
Oh yeah, for places like Chiang Mai, Bali, and all of Cambodia/Vietnam you need your own transport. If you can't just jump on a motorbike or scooter whenever you want, it's completely different. You're going for 5-6 months - having that freedom will make your trip. I've been to Bali without riding and the taxis were a nightmare, completely different experience.
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>>2847791
I often have layovers in Asia and I've been tempted to route through KL and give myself a few days there just to soak in the vibe. Worth it? Or should I do Singapore instead? I just care about tasty food and comfy vibes, Asian consumerist kitsch, also the chance to practice my Chinese with shopkeepers.
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>>2847855
They are pretty similar places to be honest. Singapore is cleaner and has fewer muzzies but the price tag is higher.
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Cambodia has Angkor Wat, you dirtbags.
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If I get an airbnb in the nicest, most modern building in Phnom Penh with a back-up generator, what are the chances that I will still lose power at least once over the course of 3 months?
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I've visited a few places in SE Asia, but I've always had packed schedules of going to far off places, hiking, and basically never taking time to sit down and just relax.

What's a good and cheap place to take a week or two to explore in the morning, see a few interesting things, eat some good stuff, but go back to my hotel during the evening to work? I think Singapore would well suited to this since it's got great transportation, but it's not exactly cheap. Indonesia seems to have lots of cheap cities, but it seems like there's fucking nothing to do unless you're spending a few hours in transportation to get anywhere. Kuala Lumpur is a place I've visited a few times and think might be a good fit for this, but I kind of want to try some other areas.
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>>2847855
>also the chance to practice my Chinese with shopkeepers
I thought most Malaysian Chinese spoke something other than mandarin?
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>>2848179
I dunno but I masturbate to Jovane PJY’s youtube videos and I can understand most of what she’s saying.
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USING CAPITALS TO GRAB ATTENTION, SORRY!

Anybody been to Brunei? is it worth it? I'm going to be in Indonesia for a wedding and am thinking of going just to check it off the list. Maybe a week or so there.
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>>2848239
Brunei is one of the richest, safest and most utopian countries in the world. If you're a single traveler who needs stimulation, you'd find it incredibly boring. People are going to wonder why on earth you came, same as they do in the outland parts of Malaysia which rarely see foreign visitors.
>>2847976
A tourist trap like Angkor Wat is the quintessential Third World experience of rich white Instagram NPCs going "OMG this is so coool" while surrounded by abject poverty and sullen brown men scheming to rip them off.
>>2847855
Kuala Lumpur is stuck in the middle between Third World and First World. It is extremely popular with foreigners, offers a little of everything for everyone, but doesn't really excel in any notable way. Because some parts of it are so glitzy and well-developed, its inadequacies stand out more than they do in the less-affluent cities of the region. There are a lot of tourist-trap restaurants around Chinatown which serve crappy overpriced food and add 16% surcharge to the menu pricing when it's time to pay.
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The typhoid and Hep a risk are kinda freaking me out. I haven't been vaxxed in years but should I get those?
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>>2847099
>maybe fly to either Philippine
Link to the thread with good information in it https://archive.4plebs.org/trv/thread/2791701/

*** TRAVEL ADVISORY THAT YOU WON'T HEAR ELSEWHERE ***

* The Philippines is NO LONGER A TRAVEL DESTINATION FOR FINDING A WIFE (HASN'T BEEN) NOR IS IT GOOD FOR FUN.

I recently returned from a 4+ month long trip and I kept a journal of some of the events occurring there.

SOCIAL MEDIA HAS DESTROYED EVERY CORNER OF THE PHILIPPINES
without exception, every young Filipina is giving in to the temptation to ask for free money online if you try to meet them on a dating application/website. It is impossible to distinguish the really bad actors from the bad actors. They're all swapping notes about how to get the most from foreigners (as well as fellow Filipinos alike; they're not just doing these things to foreigners), and it has turned into a game of one-upsmanship between the girls to say how they got the most for doing the least. This is like western women going to a bar to see how many free drinks they can get.

Man-hate and feminism are FULL BORE now. I have videos of malls with huge displays up so that even the lowest IQ Filipinos can understand that women are being glorified.

I also have a video I took of a girl's phone of just how many men women are messaging and what men are saying to them if anyone is interested in seeing it. A lot of men are simply genuinely seeking an emotional connection to a woman, however the women are happy to send you a few terse messages, letting you believe she's listening, then these dummies start sending her money for free. Some guys are offering thousands of dollars to travel for a month with her; sometimes it's multiple guys traveling with the same woman (this is disgusting, but it's happening). One big theme is that men seem to think because a woman is talking nicely to them that they're the only one talking to her - NOT THE CASE.
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>>2852348
The girl I am talking about was sleeping with 3-5 different men per day, and guys were treating her like she was some pure hearted gift.I will post this video eventually.


the girls are all on birth control

It is nearly impossible to distinguish between the innocent woman who was dragged into e-begging with her friends (who might have been wife material before) and those "working" for money. And MOST WOMEN IN THE PHILIPPINES HAVE OR ARE PARTICIPATING IN "WORKING" FOR MONEY. If you think your girl isn't, then ask yourself "How many Filipinas 'working' for money does she know though? What are the chances she hasn't heard about this?"

Philippines is more like a Godforsaken nation, rather than a God-fearing nation.

To quickly mention a few things as to why Filipinas are not wife material in general anymore (I'll leave it to you to unpack this info):
- there are A LOT of fat Filipinos now
- most women have huge egos due to social media and they won't even look at people around them, let alone give an opening to approach
- even the fat/ugly Filipinas have egos now, just like in the west
- due to the worldwide fat pandemic, any skinny and/or attractive Filipinas have been ran through by so many men that you could not possibly be their bf, let alone husband. this is not a joke, these girls are sleeping with 3-7 guys per day in some cases; if you inspect their panties if they come over you can visibly see the-guy-from-10-minutes-ago's sperm

* MOST GIRLS ARE WORKING FOR MONEY & POWER, NOT NECESSITY
The Philippines has become absolutely flush with cash, & only the stupidest of Filipinos are scraping by at this point in time. Some westerners foolishly think that because they see a concrete house that isn't painted & dirt surrounding it that the people that live there must be poor; this is nonsense logic that never made sense, and it's astounding that westerners think they're correct about this. Most Filipino families have more money than western families.
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>>2852349

* MORE ON THE MONEY AND POWER SEEKING BY GIRLS

I realized in my write up that some people might interpret my examples of how girls are trying to amass money and power as purely constructive intentions by these women. NOT the case. I thought women's innate destructive tendencies were implied, however I will explicitly state it here to ensure avoidance of false notions coming about.

Some examples of the power exertions they're doing:
- These days, Filipinas join the bar at 18 fully intending to "take over" the establishment. You can imagine how this might work behind the scenes with the other girls, but what you might be surprised about is their flagrant, emotionally-charged passive aggressiveness towards customers. They will start conspiring against the owners & managers to avoid going with customers to socially punish someone for whatever arbitrary nonsense their female brain comes up with
- They are talking smack to you straight away on the street trying to tell YOU what's going to happen and how much you will pay. Again, if a girl has a bad attitude or is in a bad or flat mood? SKIIIIIIIIIIP. Do not take that girl and cease all interaction. She will continue to be a bitch
- Girls will tell YOU that if they stay with you for 4 days, for example, they are your girlfriend
- They are straight up reneging on agreements made in the bar, sometimes with the manager, sometimes without. Either way, if you go back to complain they'll tell you to go fuck yourself because it's 2025 and it's their choice and they will not refund your money. They can run off as soon as you walk out the door and you're fucked
- Make no mistake about it, these girls are now IN COMPETITION WITH *YOU*. They think that they're going to be more rich and powerful than the tourist who come in with pockets full of cash... they're immediately envious that you're on the other side of the transaction. Once the seeds of jealousy are planted they remain forever. Don't flaunt any wealth at all
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>>2852350

While I'm on this topic, you westerners need to get your sense of superiority under control. Yes, you're higher IQ, yes you're more beautiful, yes your people have accomplished more than the rest of the world combined - but stop being arrogant about it. That does you no favors when you're elsewhere in the world, & no one cares about your pity for them, except to milk cash out of you, and milk your cash they will. This doesn't make them smarter than you, it just makes you an arrogant fool, and a fool and his money are soon parted.

Don't be fooled! Filipinas will still speak to you in the same whiny voice about how they "need to work" to help their family...... but the "help" they're offering their family is starting their 3rd business or luxuriously putting their 6th family member through college or upgrading their mansion in their subdivision.

* NEARLY ALL YOUTUBE CHANNELS HAVE MISLEADING OR FALSE INFORMATION

Some youtubers are making their videos in a way where the audience isn't clear (think about that.). However, if you know the Philippines you can glean from the context that they're pretending to make these videos for westerners while their real intention is to stroke the ego of Filipinos they know are watching the channel to earn their favor. Some Canadian guy has an uber cringey channel where he does this all the time. Other channels seem to be fully AI generated and are espousing truths about the Philippines from over a decade ago.

Some channels look to be AI generated, as they're mixing information from 9+ years ago in with modern info, and these facts were not true at the same time. Brian the Lion is a completely noncredible channel, just to name one.
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>>2852351

IDK why, but there is a trend on youtube of gen X'ers and baby boomers espousing ideas that haven't been true in the Philippines for 6+ years (starting in 2019); for example, they tell you you can go to the mall to meet girls. This is *not* true, and before the All Police come here, the exception is not the rule. There has not been an abundent amount, nor generally accepting pool of girls, at the mall to approach for a long time. Every baby boomer or gen X'er I asked said they'd been married for 6 years or hadn't gone out in 6 years, so something must have happened exactly 6 years ago to cause this trend, but anyone telling you this is full of shit and has outdated information. Most places you go are like the USA now where there are so few people out that there is no chance of something spontaneous happening or meeting new people with any sort of regularity; they're all sitting inside on their phones ordering food to their door with the extra money that retards gave them for tips or sent them electronically or overpaid them with. Stop tipping. Stop sending money through Remittly, western union, gcash, and everything else - you doing this is selfdestructive for you, Filipino's behavior and other foreigners (and your wife or gf is definitely cheating on you no matter what you do).

Expats in the Phillipines must be on the dole by establishments because they keep espousing delusional fantasies about how great it is to live in the Philippines, but I witnessed their lives 10 years ago vs now, and they're not living better than before in spite of the upgraded food and infrastructure. The issues mentioned in my posts here explain a bit about why since the culture has tanked hard. *All* of my American friends are entertaining the idea of moving back to America, even the ones with businesses there.
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>>2852352

* SCAMS, RIPOFFS, ROBBERIES, MURDER, BURGLARIES, AND CRIME IN GENERAL IS SKY HIGH
I'd like to note that the average IQ in the Philippines is 81.5 and they're still flush with cash because there are so many new tourists all the time (plus the aforementioned retards tipping and sending money). Which brings me to my next point about why crime/scams & general exploitative tourist culture is so high right now; there is always a new sucker to take the place of someone who won't be a return customer. First of all, people around the world have been hearing that they can come to the Philippines & simply dominate with their money. Well, no. It's a seller's market in the Philippines now & Filipinos have no compunction about stealing or ripping off foreigners. There are people constantly getting drugged and robbed IN THE DISCOS!! Forget the number getting drugged in their hotel rooms or elsewhere - they're drugging you in a public place with lots of people & robbing you there. This particular situation happened at least 5 times in the 4 months I was visiting. Pretty much every establishment will try to rip you off at some point. If you go to a restaurant they'll run a number of scams to try & steal your money. One that I saw a lot was the staff taking 20+ minutes to bring you your change; they know a certain number of tourists are in a rush or will forget about it, and they'll keep your $10-15 in change. I waited 35 minutes one time for them to bring me my change and 40 minutes on another occasion; 20 minutes was common though. If you go to a restaurant with locals, they'll order food in Tagalog without approving it with you, and they'll bring $40+ worth of food to the table all at once and the Filipinos will refuse to pay & they'll say that you have to pay or they're calling the police on you.
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>>2852353

The children are straight up saying "give me money" when you see them now. Even if you're deep in the province. IDK how these trends happen simultaneously all over the Philippines (social media?) but they do.

There was 1 murder or missing person reported every other week within 1 mile of Red Street for the entire 4 month trip.

* DISEASES OF THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL VARIETIES
The first point is short and sweet: tourists and Filipinas are getting shitloads of STDs and NEITHER is treating them. There was a guy out there that had full blown gonhorrea and he gave it to dozens of girls before he left. I personally know a girl with gonhorrea, she's had it for 6 months, she took a partial cycle of medication, didn't get rid of the STD, and refused to treat it further, and she is continuing to spread this disease. Before anyone asks, I have no idea why everyone is outright refusing to treat STDs, but it's happening just as I say. Also the "hygene tests" are being faked and I hear both of the following assertions in equally belligerently confident ways:
1. the hygene test tests for disease and then treats any diseases.
2. the hygene test doesn't test for diseases, it just tests for cleanliness and no treatment is ever required, they just inform the girl & her boss

Mental diseases are *everywhere*.
- Borderline personality disorder (BPD). Avoid anyone you see with this before they can do too much damage to you - no matter how much the girl makes your peepee tingle when you see her
- Bipolar. commonly coupled with BPD.
- Manipulative personality traits
- Depression
- narcissism. both grandiose narcissism and vulnerable narcissism

These are serious mental diseases in the Philippines that you should absolutely avoid if you see them.
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>>2852354

This brings me to my next topic. Some people say that women enjoy being night workers. however, what appears to be happening is the mamasans predatorily come after girls in ways that break their minds and induce some of the aforementioned mental diseases. What happens then is the girls are permanently broken mentally & emotionally & they use sex as a short-term coping mechanism for validation and attention (not a good system but it puts a bandaid on the pain and keeps them whoring). Then when they hit 24-25 years old the mamasans push them out before the resentment about what happened to them circles back around to bite them. We see this in the west when women get to age ~30 & the attention from men dries up. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT KNOWING THESE WOMEN ARE VICTIMS DOESN'T FIX THEM AND THEY'RE STILL A BURDEN WITH THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS TO EVERYONE AROUND THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

Contrary to popular belief, these mental diseases absolutely can be contagious to you if you spend long enough around these people & in intense enough situations. Also, the Philippines has no way of dealing with mental disorders so these people are allowed to run rampant everywhere and cause unlimited amounts of damage & they do leave a trail of destruction & influence those around them to act similarly, hence the air of fear and distrust in the air all over the Philippines.

This trip forced me to see exactly HOW what we call "sexual liberation" in the west comes full circle back to why people need to get married and stick with whoever they marry, for better or worse. Just get rid of this dating nonsense and be done with it for life. this explains why mental illness used to be noticed more easily and something was done about it; now nearly all women are broken and people take it as normal.
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>>2852356

* SEXUAL ABUSE BY THE ANIMALISTIC & GODFORSAKEN FILIPINO & PEDOPHILE TOURIST

the abundant amount of ladyboys has to do with the fact that filipinos (as well as foreigner pedos) love to fuck children

the mothers are the main perpetrators that use information from mamasans to mentally damage children at young ages in order to ensure the permanent damage needed so that down the road when they're allowed to sell them for sex, the girl thinks she's doing it because she wants to. then when the women become 24/25 they kick them out because the coping mechanism, that is validation through sex from strangers, fades away&the resentment builds up. in early childhood, the mothers will neglect, invalidate a child's actions, sexually abuse the child or allow payment from a man to do sexual acts to the child. Look up the suppresion of brain growth due to persistent cortisol release during childhood due to stress; once the damage is done it's permanent; this is found in almost all people with BPD.

again, the mothers do the damage at an early age so that the child never knows what's driving their behavior at an older age. this is why when people say "she's a 'working' girl because she wants to be", it's not entirely true. however, these women ARE permanently damaged&will forever be a burden to society, even if you acknowledge that they were victims - so giving them victim status does nothing. plus on top of all this, women will leave a trail of destruction in their path while "choosing" to be a "working" girl. furthermore, the status quo of the modus operandi in the philippines right now is 100% tugging on men's heart strings&trying to trap&attack men emotionally&unfortunately it's the most well-meaning men that are getting taken advantage of
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>>2852357

to give some specific examples of what the philippines used to be like (& this is still happening but it's more hidden) girls between the age of 8-13 would go to karaoke bars in Layte & get fucked by 15-20 filipinos per night, then shipped off to Angeles City & Makati/Manila. This happens in Sumar as well. Occasionally foreigners go to these places to make their rounds on these children. The foreigners have sex with ladyboys in exchange for inside access & the mothers will take a cut of cash

* CULTURAL STATE OF KEKLAND (AKA PHILIPPINES)
the philippines is in the cultural spot that america was in in the late 00s to early teens&the culture is wrapped like a bell curve on 2010 (minus some of the sexual stuff, unless you count (((epstein's))) pedo island that we didn't know about at the time)
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>>2852359

* COMMENTS FROM PREVIOUS THREADS

>the overall situation is in massive free fall from even 6 years ago.
and this is what the copers are totally ignoring. what's happening is there are people over there trying to save face because they told everyone back home that they're "living the dream" and they'd have to eat crow if they went back home, which is a better option in a lot of cases. the place is hot and sticky all the time, you can't go out and get a bunch of work done without sweating through a set of clothes, applying sunblock up the ass, and you have to deal with retarded flips the whole day, especially if you're outside the main areas.

>Pinays are behaviorally pricing themselves out.
And let's talk about fat acceptance that has made its way there via social media. the fat women have egos JUST LIKE american women now.

>Philippines will have some legacy reputation staying power for a while, no doubt
exactly. people are running on fumes thinking about the old times, and the youtubers saying it's fantasy land are retards trying to get people to think of them if they go there and have a good time. they're clout chasers.

>you have to consider just applying that effort to a more developed neighboring country.
the logical conclusion of all this is.......... GO BACK TO WHITE WOMEN!! you're getting an ugly ass filipina with the same shitty attitude and a low IQ now. and asian woman in general are not better looking than white women, so if you don't find one with a stupendous personality, you're right back to white women again.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 17 YEARS I WILL BE SEEKING A WHITE GIRLFRIEND.

IT'S MORE FUCKED IN THE PHILIPPINES.
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>It goes without saying that 'going native' gets you better results with more 'native' behaving girls, and than trying to stay firmly in the rootless metropolitan travelersphere. There are some city hotties out there to be sure, but they are also sure to be run through and will be comparing you to the 6' 4" australian millionaire surfer chad with a 9" cock who gave her a series of deep pussy orgasms when she was fresh off the bus, that she still hasn't forgotten.
Folks, this is an example of a traveler who doesn't get it. Idk how these people are INSIDE the fucking Philippines and exist. I have a friend who's been going there since 1998 and think this retarded idea that "women like BIG COCKS!!! HAHAHA BIG COCKS DUUUDE!!" is true. No it's fucking not. That's not even true in the west, it's just a self fulfilling prophecy line that gets repeated. NO FILIPINA EVER SAID THEY LIKE LARGE PENISES UNLESS SOME DUMBASS AMERICAN OR BRIT CONDITIONED THEM INTO REPEATING IT. I have a slightly above average size penis and I've only ever gotten complaints that it's too big. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

The 6'4" shit is another number he's pulling out of his internet folk wisdom ass. (Losers should stay away from the Philippines anyway though - there are too many foreigners there).


>You have to be in a place where being 'white' is still exotic enough to be noteworthy as a good quality, and not as solely a target for wealth extraction.

Thoughts like this are coping death throws about the Philippines having died. Don't be fooled folks! The Philippines is not a place to find a wife, start a family or even enjoy casual sex anymore. Invest in a VR headset later this year in 2025 & see how far VR sex has come along; this is going to be the year.
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>unless their trike driver boyfriend takes them out drinking at filipino-only club.
This reminds me, Philippines is the cuckold capital of the world. The Filipinos act like they're pulling one over on foreigners because "hahahah she has a husband or bf!" They really are about the cuckery, and it further proves that these people are not devout Catholics nor God-fearing but Godforsaken.

> but you're a fucking complete dork in America and the Philippines
Whoever these people are, they must have crept in some time in the past decade. I have never seen anyone in the Philippines complaining about "not getting some laid", but I have seen people making up stories about other guys "not getting the laid" and making themselves feel better by repeating it to each other.

>You can ACCIDENTALLY have sex here in the Philippines. I've had women knock on my door looking for their auntie and they had the wrong apartment, and I just smile and invite them in for some C2, and fuck them after some small talk, then send them on their way 30 minutes later
Oooooooh you're one of those retarded faggots who thinks anyone complaining about anything in the Philippines "can't get laid".... I ran into this when I was there. I am fucking Chad extraordinare in Philippines. I am the youngest guy there, fit, handsome face (according to the girls), never lead with my wallet, blue eyes, blonde hair, bright white skin and these old geezers were circle jerking each other that I "could get the laid". I outpaced ALL OF THEM COMBINED IN EVERY METRIC AND THEY STILL TOUCHED EACH OTHERS PENISES TOGETHER WHEN REPEATING THAT LINE AND IT WAS NEVER THE CASE - EVER. You're exercising some sort of coping mechanism. Just stop talking because no one needs to hear what you say, especially your "journey" "helping" people. Just get out of the way.
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* SPREADING AWARENESS OF WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE
I'm not a big social media user (never used it, in fact), so my reach is limited. However, Filipinos use facebook and tiktok a lot because it's unethically subsidized and they can use it even without cell service over there, so if any of you would be so kind as to spread my message here on other platforms we can warn everyone about the dangers that await them in the Philippines.


*** HAVE A PREPARED DEFENSE AGAINST THE FALLACIOUS EXPAT IN THE PHILIPPINES WHEN THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN HAPPENS

There will be fools who will attempt to bait and rope you into their fallacious thought processes when the economic downturn happens in the Philippines. Once the money pool dries up, you will see these idiots reporting that times are great because the girls are desperate and the prices are down. Obviously if people rush in there, that is going to change the economy, and the more this pattern repeats, the more the entitled Filipinos harden their stance on entitlement.
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Can we quit these goddamn copypastas already? Anti-PH spamposting is just as annoying as pro-PH spamposting, because not a damn word of it is based on IRL travel experience. You're a bunch of basement dwelling shills who parrot whatever you see on the Internet and thereby convince gullible retards that it's true (because anything repeated numerous times on the Internet has to be true, duh)



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