>>2849711
>literally zero events

>>2849718
What's the issue with that? Seems like they have a Christmas, Halloween, Fall Festival, and some summer down town festivals. Not a clubbing kinda guy so what's the issue? Besides train to chicago if I want stuff.

>>2849711
>long comfy summers
They're short and hot.
>inb4 snow, I love snow
Where do you live now?

>>2849719
>Besides train to chicago if I want stuff.
13-15 hours, could be longer. Literally hours faster if you just drive or fly like a normal person.

>>2849720
>They're short and hot.
It's so far north it gets 16hrs of sunlight
>Where do you live now?
Virginia
>13-15 hours, could be longer.
Oh no I can sleep off a drunken night at the bar on a train! The horror, I thought trv liked trains?

>>2849721
Why would you go all the way to Chicago to drink?

>>2849722
>leave train at 2am to Minniapolis/milwakee/chicago
>sleep on the train saving cash on a hotel
>get to chicago in the afternoon Friday
>party all weekend
>take the late train to fargo
>sleep it off
>wake up ready for work on monday
seems kino

I can drink in fargo I am sure there is some cool bars there

>>2849711
i bet those people are simple, boring, and retarded. this is fine if you are too

>>2849736
3bn dollar datacenter building
Microsoft Campus
Home to one of the biggest healthcare centers in the midwest
Unlimited oil

Yeah so true Karen

Why did my post get deleted

>>2849904
this

>>2849737
>cope

>>2849908
He just wrote a reasonable response to your post and you wrote one stupid meme word back. You're cancer.

>>2849737
>3bn dollar datacenter building
Oh boy, it's about to turn into a generic 21st century dump

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>>2849711
>train to Chicago
>a bonus

>>2849723
North Dakota is a frozen wasteland, the only thing to do in that state is become an alcoholic or go to college hockey games in Fargo or Grand Forks, if you don't like hockey you are out of luck. The wind blowing off the prairies in February and January is so cold and sub arctic you will freeze your nutsack off the moment you walk out the door.

>>2849933
Why wouldn't I just take a cheap flight somewhere warm? I work remotely so seems like I could take a train to Chicago then have a huge international hub to fly off to somewhere for a few months. Tired of Hampton roads becoming more and more of a shit hole creeping up to Richmond.

>>2849711
No bitches

>>2850096
>Why wouldn't I just take a cheap flight somewhere warm?
>fly off to somewhere for a few months
Ok then why the fuck are you looking to move somewhere if you're intending to leave it? Just go the the place you're leaving it for.

I lived in deep suburbia in Wisconsin. It was a 5 min car ride to go to the nearest grocery store. The nearest restaurant was a 20 min car ride. There's practically 0 food delivery options besides the local dominoes. It gets boring really quickly.

>>2849711
It has an unbelievablely long, brutally cold winter. From November to April.

>>2849723
>Minniapolis/milwakee
Absolute American Education

>>2850096
>seems like I could take a train to Chicago then have a huge international hub to fly off
Why wouldn't you just fly to Chicago then? You're risking missing your flight just to ride a choo choo train, plus you have to arrange for a way to get from the train station to O'hare (1 hour 15 min. on CTA)

You seem manic/retarded

>>2850233
>Ok then why the fuck are you looking to move somewhere if you're intending to leave it
Because I can travel 3-4 months of the year and then come back home if I 'get so bored' of the nothingness you described. Besides , Fargo seems to have a ton of restraunts and shops around. I work remote but need a US address. Should I look into living somewhere that rent is 4-5x only to still yearly travel to some places.

>>2850306
If I am not in a rush I could train down to MSP or CHI for cheap, saw tickets were like 30 bucks or something. Spend a night chilling in a cheap hostel, take a flight early the next AM. I could also fly if I wanted to, but in winter I'd probably do the train since -blizzards would cancel a flight of a train I would assume.

For a travel board this place sure gets spicy when anyone suggests moving or living in the USA to a cheaper city.

>>2850233
>Ok then why the fuck are you looking to move somewhere if you're intending to leave it? Just go the the place you're leaving it for.
I'll never understand this logic, you know there are anons who don't want to travel or live abroad 12 months out of the year right? Lot of anons here are fine traveling just a few weeks or months of the year, and depending on work might be just better for some. From a pure logistics and financial standpoint might be best to get a cheap apartment with favorable taxes while having an economy to fall back on.
>>2850177
This is probably what /trv/ cares about the most, everything else can fall by the wayside. If trying to get a woman in the area isn't done via tinder or bumble, the place sucks. Smaller pool of people means it's harder to pump and dump, random hookup, or even use the app outside of babymama's. Making social connections at the gym? Town or season festival? Game night at a bar? too much effort burdda.

>>2850333
Post hand

>>2850233
Exactly this, OP doesn't seem to understand how boring and cold it gets in the winter in the upper midwest. Which is why OP should just move somewhere warm, the amount of money and time you would spend transiting around to the destination would be better spent just living in a warm / better climate.

Personally, I'd never trade life in a small town in the Colorado Rockies for some valley mutt city next to an interstate like Fargo. I got my cheap apartment, I got a daily bus to DEN airport, and that's literally all I need.
>>2849723
This is utter ridiculousness. You're ruining four nights of sleep and wasting huge sums of money to go poison yourself with $7 a drink booze at some stupid bar 1000 miles away, where fat tattooed white women are going to give you the cold shoulder 99 times out of 100. Tough out those lonely boring weekends and save that money for your trip to India, nigga.
>>2850306
Flights from Fartgo to Chicago are a price-gouge. I'm seeing fares around $300 to fly 650 miles.
>>2851179
Summer seasonal work is very much doable up there, but you will need a car (and a place to store it over the winter when you've gallivanting off overseas).

Oh, and just for kicks, African Americans as a percentage of Fargo's population have increased a staggering 850% over the past two decades. All those lovely cheap apartments? Guess who your neighbors are gonna be. Gotta ride the bus because you're away half the year and don't want the hassle of keeping a car registered and insured? Guess who you'll be riding with.

>>2851314
How do niggers get to live in the most remote places in the country? Like how did a nigger and nigger family get to live in Cheyenne of all places? With what money and why would they move from their ghetto in New Orleans to the West?

>>2851312
>Flights from Fartgo to Chicago are a price-gouge.
Because he's not flying from Fargo to Chicago, he's flying on to international destinations dumb fuck

>>2851323
It started under Obama, it used to be they were contained to the usual cities but they overhauled public housing policies & subsidies so they'd be dispersed. It's been horrible for smaller cities that don't have the police power to handle them.

>>2851323
My guess is refugee resettlement, most of the larger towns in formerly 95%+ white areas in the US have been affected by it for diversity reasons..

>>2851373

You're most likely correct, you see the same thing in a lot of Rust Belt cities. It's all part of a grand conspiracy by American Oligarchs to destroy social cohesion amongst rural communities and keep them in a state of fear by raising crime, and insuring that there is no enforcement of laws by appointing compromised judges.

>>2849711
I remember going to Fargo in late March on a business trip and it was literally the coldest I had every been in my entire life.
Also, as soon as the oil money dries up Fargo is going to turn into a ghost town.

>>2849711
you develop a weird accent

>>2851323
Chicago’s black population has declined by like 30% since 1980. Where do you think they went?

>>2849736
Spending 20 USD on a drink and talking about the latest slop startups doesn't make you interesting. Just so you know.

Fargo fag here
>>2851179
>>2851312
>>2851314
This is the kinda shit I dealt with when moving during covid as we went full WFH indefinitely and I wanted cheap rent. The only real issue i have with fargo is 1) the leftist NDSU who just got work are far more talkative/annoying for the size of the city than you'd expect 2) the homeless that show up for the late spring and summer are a bit aggro.

>muh niggers
lots are seasonal work or uber drivers, they suck but they 99% stick to moorhead housing or goldmark. Stop shopping at Walmart on the 1st and 15th, and you basically never see them.
>muh nothing to do
I'll give you winter is a bit of a chore but you can easily run somewhere warm and not worry of 'urban youth' breaking in. Most crime here is petty theft/DUI, like most college towns. Summer, spring, and fall especially are nice.

Gatekeeping here is the worst I've seen virtually anywhere, I get it since housing is a crunch here as farmers just refuse to give land up or more housing but it's not that bad. I don't get how people can live here where jobs start at 18-20/hr then somehow are still broke complaining needing a 620 credit score to rent a decent 700/mo place that gets you far out here.

Move here if you want to min/max your lifestyle and bank account, i you're self-motivated with a good balance of hobbies/interests you'll make friends pretty easily. If you're the kind of person who hates to bump into the same person twice because you forgot the story you made up last time, lol yeah stay the fuck out. People here remember what you tell them.

>>2851445
That's doubtful as a lot more has been found and now datacenters are taking into green cooling alternatives and wind power. Not to mention farming is getting a boom especially in farmtech

>>2851639
>>2851373
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/05000US38017-cass-county-nd/
Cass county has a 7% black population, will never understand the gatekeep shit this place does about nope it's 9001% black!

>>2849711
>What's the downside?
freezing your ass off

>>2851867
That's 7% too high. Add the lack of topography, the alcoholism, and the shitty Canada-tier climate, and you get a recipe for living a loser life.
>>2851866
I save ⅔ of my paycheck, which IMO is too low, but I want a one-bedroom apartment to myself. Doubtful you are saving that much in Fargo. Alaska is much cooler than the Dakota plains if you want to live north and do whatever you call it, min-maxx. Fairbanks is unironically 7.5% African American. Who said blax don't like cold? They lied.

>>2855033
>That's 7% too high
Outside a gated community where the hell are you hitting 0%.
>Add the lack of topography
I will never understand this, as someone who grew up on the southwest, mountains are cool but after a while it's just background noise. I'll take some of the insane lightning shows they get in the midwest well before looking at a mountain for the zillionth time. Alcoholism is your choice.

>>2855033
>Alaska is much cooler than the Dakota plains if you want to live north and do whatever you call it, min-maxx.
Have you seen Alaska rent prices recently? You're lucky to get a studio for <900 in Fairbanks or Anchorage, not to mention groceries are going to eat alive compared to virtually anywhere in the lower 48's.

I really wish I knew in what reality people live in where /trv/ is constantly glorifying Alaska for low cost of living high earnings. Sure it's a beautiful state in the summer, but the CoL will nickle and dime you to death.

>>2849711
>high paying seasonal gigs
bs

>>2855131
Not OP but CDL in Fargo pays stupid high, there are people who do the long haul between Seattle and Chicago for mega bux during holiday crunch times. Hell, the city will pay you like 28-30/hr starting + training you for being a bus driver in fargo not bad when a decent apartment is like ~625-700/mo. Oil is seasonal work that lasts ~6 months pays very good if you don't mind it and is far safer than fishing in Alaska.

>>2849711
>long comfy summers
Lol
Horrendous weather
85 and 80% humidity all summer with insane mosquitoes
-15 and under three feet of snow all winter
No concerts or other events
Expensive to fly out of
Boring milquetoast white christians all over who will shame you for not going to church Sundays
It’s def very cheap though

>>2855114
>Expecting 4chan basement dwelling incels to give actual good advice
4Chan hates anything that isn't some shithole NPC hive suburb in the midwest.

>>2855740
>Boring milquetoast white christians all over who will shame you for not going to church Sundays
So trad wife?

>>2855740
>Horrendous weather
Debatable, the thunderstorms here are GOAT
>85 and 80% humidity all summer with insane mosquitoes
confirmed visiting once and sticking at red river. it's rarely 80% humidity and the wind out here makes it a non issue, I'd take 85 with 85% humidity vs. the shit in the south where it's dead still without wind
>-15 and under three feet of snow all winter
we haven't had 3ft of snow pile up in years, besides ND's snowplowing is SSS+ tier
>No concerts or other events
we have events but it's not like most trv goes to them anyways, flights are cheap, trains are cheap, idk what you want exactly
>Expensive to fly out of
It's really not though? like this airport I can show up when boarding starts be through tsa and make my flight. Normal airports ~2hrs of bullshit so I call it even. What's an extra 50 bucks on top of flying to a hub or taking a night time train to MSP?
>Boring milquetoast white christians all over who will shame you for not going to church Sundays
confirmed for never been, most christians here are fun but if you aren't a people person it will be shitty
>It’s def very cheap though
which is why it's the perfect home base

I wish I was lucky enough to live this life where anons can just do fuck all without a home address in the USA, it must be nice. Do you guys just rent a PO box and put your parents name on your tax forms or something? I don't get it.

>>2849711
It's an uglier shit dump than most of the Midwest with even less to do. The summers are short comparatively not sure what you're talking about. Try Des Moines or Omaha for stupid cheap on the area, they also have a lot more to do.

>>2856660
I'm actually going to double down on Omaha. They still have a pretty good music scene and the people are really friendly and fun. My brother has a two bedroom for under a thousand dollars and that's in the nice end of town. Seems like you can kind of get by doing whatever and be okay.

>>2856661
been to Omaha a couple times and legit could not believe how cheap real estate was there. big, nice homes in quiet neighborhoods for 1/2 what i expected. i'd live there for sure.

I live in the Denver area. This house would be $650k minimum in Denver

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2635-N-125th-Cir-Omaha-NE-68164/75859917_zpid/

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>>2855988
I don’t mind cold but this is awful anon. Insane heating bills. A high of -10F is arctic circle shit

>>2856891
Most any apartment I've looked at here, heating is included or stupid cheap. My current place is flat fee of 10/mo for heating up to 80F(or that's about as hot as I can make it). Most friends I have here are similar setups.

>>2856661
>>2856663

Housing prices in Omaha are deceptive, they look affordable on paper but the area is known for its high property taxes, so you're not getting the savings you think you're getting on housing when compared to other MCOL areas.

>>2849711
I love snow too but without any trees here the wind will literally make your eyes tear up and freeze so you can't see. Also, don't come to nodak if you're not German or Scandinavian.