Singapore is the worst fucking country you could go within the entire region of Southeast Asia>ExperiencesThe fuck do you even experience over here? Most people don't want to speak to you in the first place>BuildingsThere aren't any, the one good building is a war memorial, there are no battlefield sites, this country has no history>WomenThe men here all go for Vietnamese women instead>Public transportThe public transport here was excellent, I'll give them that>StoresFood, tech, and a few bars, that's it, no libraries, nothing, it's fucking empty>FoodArguably one of the few good things about the country, but if you don't follow their specific rules, they'll fine you>CultureThey use a dialect of English that sounds retarded>ChineseThey don't speak Chinese over there>GeylangOverpriced, Thailand is cheaper and the women are nicer over in Chiang Mai>NatureIt's a concrete jungle>BeachesIndonesia and Vietnam were better>CurrencyExpensive for zero reason, even the hostels were expensive>FriendsJust head over to Malaysia or Indonesia, people in Singapore are weirdly hostileIf anybody can tell me about somewhere I could go to over here I'll go there, but holy fuck, this country sucksSave your money and go to the Philippines or Dubai instead
>>2849948You were warned, faggot/trv/ has been shitting on singapore for years, and for good reason
>>2849948Why Singapore?
can i bring my own weed there to smoke?
>>2849951Death penalty.
>>2849948Singaporeans are going through their own economic bubble, just like Japan did in the 1980s. They think their value is equal to Switzerland's and their GDP per capita is the same, but there's no foundation to it. Switzerland has actual value and makes things of value. It can survive independently. Singapore is growing exponentially but there's no reason for that growth. It's entirely dependent on Malaysia in all ways for its continued existence. It's in for a brutal mogging by its neighbors when that bubble pops in the next few years. Its only value is in being the only somewhat developed city in a 100 mile radius, just like Hong Kong was in the 90s. At least Hong Kong has the backing of a mainland with 1.4 billion people. Singapore only has a somewhat OK airport and a brand of (imported) potato chips.
>>2849960>It's entirely dependent on Malaysia in all ways for its continued existence. It's in for a brutal mogging by its neighbors when that bubble pops in the next few years. Its only value is in being the only somewhat developed city in a 100 mile radius, just like Hong Kong was in the 90s. At least Hong Kong has the backing of a mainland with 1.4 billion people. Singapore only has a somewhat OK airport and a brand of (imported) potato chips.Singapore is going to be fucked so hard. People have predicted it's collapse since the 70s but it seems more and more likely over time.
>>2849957I wonder when we will most past such primitive ways of being.
>>2849948>>2849962>>2849949https://web.archive.org/web/20150602074637/http://www.singledudetravel.com/2013/03/i-dun-unerstan-u-lah-an-expose-of-singapore-and-singaporean-retardationObligatory read
>>2849949I'm out of the loop, why do people hate Singapore so much? Is there a tier list?
>>2849965as far as i can tell its a weird mix of thingsbasically you have a high income city-state, surrounded by another country and as far as I can figure out it sort of functions as a vassal state for china like a luxembourg that somehow does things that wouldn't be allowed in mainland china or there's some sort of incentive to do it in singapore insteadso you get this dense metropolis of people, and it was a british colony so they are kinda stuck up but they are still dumb insect people so you get all the disadvantages of that and I guess it's not muslim but it's surrounded by people who are and they similarly have an ultra strict behavioral and legal codei guess its sort of the combination of having so much money and being so smug about it yet being kinda primitive and backwards that makes people rage
>>2849965Would you travel across the world to visit Des Moines, Iowa? What about Des Moines where it's ridiculously hot and humid all year? What about Des Moines but it's confined to a 20 mile wide space and there's absolutely nothing beyond that area? What about Des Moines with even less to do? Add in the fact that everyone there has the attitude of a Wall Street finance worker obsessed with money and a Los Angeles influencer who feels the need to flaunt their every basic ass daily routine. Their only activities involve getting money and talking about getting more money. And with that money, they do absolutely nothing interesting. Also, they think their country is the most important place in the world. Any modest claim that there isn't much to do compared to neighboring countries always, without exception, results in Singaporeans flooding in and saying>YEAH WELL YOU'RE JUST RACIST AND HATE TO SEE ASIANS WITH MONEY. YOU ONLY GO TO ASIA TO SEE POOR PEOPLEThey simply cannot resist talking about having money. The entire country is built on the idea that it's an Asian country with money, and because they have money, everyone should go and visit so they can see the money that Singaporeans have. It's a pyramid scheme of a country.
>>2849968Don't forget them having rain during the middle of the day. No snow, no happiness, work all day, no apartments, no housing, it's a marketing scheme of a country.
yea idk about Singapore, like it's pretty cool they were able to raise themselves from poverty but annihilating all culture left it pretty sterile methinks
>>2849948oh god here we go again>>Experiences>The fuck do you even experience over here? i live in malaysia. singapore is where i go to see comedy, bands, theatre etc since most of them don't come to malaysia because of the fucking muslims>Most people don't want to speak to you in the first placedon't speak to you, maybe>>Buildings>There aren't any, the one good building is a war memorial, there are no battlefield sites, this country has no historyeh?>>Stores>Food, tech, and a few bars, that's it, no libraries, nothing, it's fucking emptya library is not a store. but if you mean bookstores, singapore has loads. not their fault you didn't find them>>Culture>They use a dialect of English that sounds retardedso do americans>>Chinese>They don't speak Chinese over thereeh?>>Nature>It's a concrete jungleit's a tiny island. but there is a massive nature reserve right in the middle of it. >>Currency>Expensive for zero reason, even the hostels were expensivehostels? ah you're poor. suddenly the problem comes into focus>>Friends>Just head over to Malaysia or Indonesia, people in Singapore are weirdly hostileyes they tend not to like poor parasites>If anybody can tell me about somewhere I could go to over here I'll go therewhat would be the point? you would just say it sucks. >but holy fuck, this country sucksit's not a prison island anon. just go somewhere else
>>2849972this reply proves >>2849968 right, they really have no good defense
>>2849968>They simply cannot resist talking about having money.the same applies to americans, even though most of them actually have nothing. singaporeans are just more direct about it.
>>2849973eh? defence? what the fuck are you talking about? this is 4chan not a fucking courtroom
>>2849974Americans atleast have culture, malaysia anon, singapore has nothing, and a lot of Americans are more interesting than singaporeans.
>>2849977>and a lot of Americans are more interesting than singaporeanspopulation of usa : about 340 millionpopulation of singapore : about 6 millionso yeah i would hope that there are at least a few americans who are more interesting than singaporeans. but based on threads like this i kind of doubt it
>>2849978Malaysia anon we have no idea what places to go to in Singapore
>>2849975OBJECTION. The court of 4chan has ruled, by unaminous jury vote, that OP is guilty of being a faggot to the first degree.
>>2849979well right now you could go to the pac man carnival and play life size pac man and play games at the fairground but yeah if you're a miserably hypercynical cunt with no friends that would kind of suck too
>>2849972It's funny how halfway through this just descends into>You're poor and I have more money than youThat's not interesting or appealing at all.
>>2849979>>2849983or actually given that this is 4chan you would probably enjoy the my little pony display more
>>2849983>>2849985Every country on earth with a GDP over $5000 per capita has these same corporate sponsored activities.
>>2849948I had literally almost the exact opposite of your experience in Singapore.I can imagine it being boring long-term but it's very pleasant and fun to visit for a while.The people were not hostile at all, you must be some retard who gives off hard autist vibes and gets hated on everywhere except third world shitholes where they see you as a walking ATM.
>>2849948>seething about Singapore>poorlike clockwork
>>2849948Made this comic because of how many times I see Singapore threads and how polarizing it is
>>2849994>>2849992>>2849980"the more things change, the more they remain the same"
>>2849983Thanks anon is it free?
>>2849992>anon asks about places to go in singapore>i mention two random things. i dunno i'm not the fucking singapore tourist board>BUT THIS EXISTS ELSEWHERE TOOfucks sake anon do you have to be quite so wilfully autistic
>Y...You don't like Singapore??? What, are you POOR???every fucking timeif it were worth the price, nobody would be complaining. singapore is dull as fuck, especially compared to the neighboring cities/countries.
>>2850002I'd appreciate if someone just made a list of places to go to in Singapore
>>2850003>places to go in shittyporeunironically the airport
>>2850006Sounds like something someone would say if they hadn't ever been there.What in particular is bad about Singapore, in your opinion?
Stayed in Singapore for a few days to top off a backpacking trip through Asia. It's of course very clean, organized, quiet, not too crowded, and fully developed which made it a god send for me after going through India. Food was good and you can eat for SEA prices if you stick to hawker centers. Botanical garden was nice and I liked the old colonial architecture. I stayed in a pretty good quality pod hostel though it was a bit overpriced imho. Overall I think it's an interesting place and it's worth checking out if you're already in the region but I agree with the other anon that it's definitely not worth flying to the other side of the world for.
>>2850009You could always go to the Chinatown food street in Singapore for some next-level food, too.Get this, bro. Singapore's national dish is chicken AND rice! Crazy, I know, but you HAVE to try it. Who would have thought to serve chicken AND rice together? A real culinary treat. You've really got to hand it to them for creating such a unique dish.Seriously though, in many ways, chicken and rice is the perfect national dish to represent singapore. It's bland, dull, and better variations of it can be found in nearly every other country.
>>2850011congratulations anon, you have discovered that peasant food is not necessarily exceptionalhowever, if you are going to be a dick, i will point out singapore had the first street food stalls to be awarded michelin stars, and before you inevitably bitch about michelin stars being expensive/corporate/overrated/whatever else poor people like to bitch about to make themselves feel better, consider that it is the cheapest michelin star food in the world.there are of course a bunch of very good restaurants in singapore for the rest of us. also, i think the best pizza i can ever remember having was in singapore.
>>2849948They have the hottest teens in the world but they are incredibly stuck up. Just wanted to point that out
>>2850014Proof?
Singapore is a place to live in, not a place to visit
>>2850011>responds to a post doubting anon has been there>replies with ricelifefood.com>generic fun-fact-tier content
>>2850018Sounds about right but apartments are subsidized and getting citizenship is next to impossible
>>2850013I've been to a few of the cheap Michelin spots and they're never anything special. I've realized that they're all, without except, places that are very accessible to someone doing an 6 hour layover in a city, their presentation is OK for the price, and the flavor is inoffensive to upper middle aged white people with sensitive taste buds. And without fail, there's always a much better restaurant serving the same type of food just right next door with higher quality ingredients and much better flavor.Higher tier Michelin restaurants, sure, they're fine. But the cheap spots really are not worth visiting. All they mean is>this restaurant is a reliable 7/10 if you happen to be in this area
>>2849948>FriendsSingaporeans had always been insecure of everyone else, especially whites. The worst offenders are those with chinese blood, they're insecure about their eyes and height and would act hostile towards a tall Timmy for no other reason.
>>2850034I still don't know what a Michelin is
>>2850011It's just a glorified dish that peasants ate centuries ago in South China.
>>2850038China has better food than Singapore probably does
>>2850042>China has better food than Singapore probably doespopulation of 1.4 billion vs population of 6 millionamazing comparison anon. probably
>>2849995>Polish drug addict caught by SG policeLink? Storytime?
>>2850054You're in for a wild one, I remember it(sort of)
>>2850013>>2850023>You ate Singapore's national dish? Ha, you must be poor!Stinkypore cope strikes againWeird how you never see comments like this in expensive cities that are actually worth visiting (HK, NYC, London, etc.)
>>2850053Pakistan has a higher population than Greece but only one of those has a reputation for good food. And it's not Pakistan.
These threads are nothing but mega bait done by people who 'made it' living okay in SEA off the 4% rule of their lotto winnin-crypto 'investments'.People stupidly overstay the amount of time needed in SG to get most everything "touristy" out of it. You can easily blow through nearly every museum, tourist beach/spot, and so on in about 2-3 weeks of something properly planned and getting off your ass. Biggest shit is that unless you're willing to drop serious cash, dress nice not the 'kek real richfags like me dress like asmongold!', and do something different other than be Digital Nomad/Crypto winner; you're a dime a dozen and being white doesn't give the walking piggy bank vibe it does just a bit north. At least the air is clean, the police shut down retarded shit, food is cheap if you visit the markets like damn go to the indian food cort for some like 5 dollar a day big meals, and so on. The biggest draw to SG is that you're getting a lot of performers, goods, shows, and things you're not going to see in Johor.>>2850002>singapore is dull as fuck, especially compared to the neighboring cities/countries.NOOO I AM A WHITE MALE AND WOMEN DIDN'T COME GRABBING ME FOR THE FEW USD WORTH OF LOCAL CURRENCY I HAVE ON ME!!!!
>>2850166You're literally just this >>2849968Singaporeans have such an incredible inferiority complex due to being Asian. Nobody else in Asia feels the need to say "I'm Asian and RICH. Bet you can't believe that, huh?" It's like when poor people buy a $20 bottle of sparkling wine and think they're a high roller. Nobody cares. And when your only comparison is Johor, that's not exactly a high bar and definitely not something people will go out of their way to see.2-3 weeks is also far above what people spend in Singapore before being bored. Most people have seen all they need in 2 days. They're beyond done in 3 days.
>>2850169>Most people have seen all they need in 2 days. They're beyond done in 3 days.If you can blow through Singapore in 2-3 days to 'see everything' you are eitherA) insanely stupidB) really fucking boring and only have narrow tastesUnless you're sonic the hedgehog levels of speed, you aren't seeing the forest bridge, enjoying the beaches, seeing the museums+Japanese leftover pillboxes, or doing any of the night life that's actually decent quality.1/10 bait, this shit is just try hard shit to the point I can only assume if it's not bait it's a bad attempt at gatekeeping other tourists out.
>>2850172Nobody needs or wants to spend 3 weeks to go around looking at pillboxes. Nobody recommends spending even a full week in Singapore. A week in Hong Kong is a long time. Singapore doesn't even have half of what Hong Kong offers.
>>2850183This. Singapore has no monuments, architecture of history.
>sir you don't understand you MUST spend 3 weeks in singapore so you can see all of these!>if you don't spend 3 weeks here seeing all of these, it's because you're poor>also you're white and can't handle seeing us asians with money>we singaporeans know this is great because we're asians and we have MONEY. never thought you'd see that, huh? too poor to appreciate looking at our money? if you had money, you'd know that we have money
Trying way too hard at this point anon. blowing the bit is worse than not doing the bit in the first place>inb4 merely pretending
>>2850208Singapore, south east asia but with money!Honestly it's a good spot for bankers.
there's not much to go to singapore for. it used to be that the night life was at least alive. not anymore since covid. even before that the scene was pretty shit as in boring as fuck considering singaporeans can't dance for shit so you drink and hop til it's gone and then drink again. apart from that, obviously, there's no nature trails to even speak of. you don't go to singapore for nature. everything in singapore is artificial and fake and if you think bright lights at night is worth wasting your time to see, then maybe jingling keys in front of your face is just as entertaining. most go singapore for work opportunities, and that's it. get your money and move on. of course, living here is also pretty good, if you can afford it. i do have to say that the zoo, bird park, aquarium, and river safari is probably the best in the region. probably asia. that and as another anon mentioned, attend the events here. concerts, cons, etc. no reason to go to singapore for sight seeing or holidays, unless you want to spend money on fancy hotels but then again every other country offers the same.
>>2850212Isn't there a hill over in Singapore? A small hike.
>>2850330There are some sizable treks in Singapore, not super long but just long enough to enjoy it before you get bored.Plan a 2 week stint around a show, convention, artist, holiday; and have fun see it all. It's one of the few countries you can literally say you've seen it all without exaggerating.
Singapore sounds like an excellent place to raise a family if you're an Asian parent who hates fun, but less so to visit as a tourist if you aren't already visiting people there.How are hawker stalls? Heard those are somewhat good. Also regarding blandness of food what about coconut chili crab?
>>2849948>no war>nobody talks to you>its empty>they speak EnglishHow is this criticism >>2849957How is killing druggies bad?Why do they make me do mouse quizzes before I can post? Is this China? No free speech??
>>2849965Libs abhor clean, empty, peaceful, safe places that have strict cleanliness rules.
>>2849948Why does their flag look Muslim?https://youtu.be/s70wIZnc8tk?si=tDlz76Zu8ttSz6So
>>2850385OP's concern about Singapore was that it doesn't make a great tourist attraction. And in many ways, I honestly agree with him.So it's definitely great that there's a major city out there in the world that ISN'T run down, shoddy, or poor like so many major cities in the world. Even if it means it has to be governed with some twinges of authoritarianism.But that doesn't necessarily make it fun or valuable for tourists. As discussed, a lot of calm 3rd-tier cities in "flyover" US states, like Des Moines or Sioux Falls, would be similar. In a similar manner, I believe Singapore is an excellent place to live, or maybe raise children (and 100% better than most of America if you're ethnically Chinese). And if you're some kid who's visiting Singaporean grandparents it'll definitely be fun, and a stark contrast to the US. But if you're 20 and wanting to explore the world from a hostal, get laid, or get wasted, you're better off going to Thailand or Vietnam.
>>2850390I'm American and there are homeschool curriculums named after Singapore for a reason. I love that the beat vandals. I hate people who are sleeping with whores. I hate druggies. I hate China because they're godless and conniving. Singapore seems clean and relaxed and safe with shops and such open all night long. Mostly I like places that understand English. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8AwPWUvfWj8&pp=4gcNEgtjaGF0Z3B0LmNvbQ%3D%3D
>>2850337>It's one of the few countries you can literally say you've seen it all without exaggerating.Yep, and it only takes 3 days to do that.>So it's definitely great that there's a major city out there in the world that ISN'T run down, shoddy, or poor like so many major cities in the world. Even if it means it has to be governed with some twinges of authoritarianism.That's basically any city in east Asia and a lot in good parts of Europe, without the random executions.
>>2850391>I'm American and there are homeschool curriculums named after Singapore for a reason.Oh man I had to do "Singapore math" as a kid as well. I hated it.>I hate China because they're godless and conniving.I'd say Singapore is more soulless than Shanghai, Shenzhen, Chongqing, and especially Chengdu (lol). Singapore is that boring lol. On par with like Beijing and Tianjin.A lot of the people your age or younger in Mainland China probably do understand English, but will pretend to know none, especially if you can't visibly pass as a local (like I can)."Boring" might be a draw for people wanting to live somewhere, but not for tourists.
>why isn't the world designed for my pleasure and self-affirmations? Singaporeans and Singapore does perfectly fine without you being there.
>>2850370Singapore food is bland compared to its neighboring countries. You can probably blame the British for that. It's a meme here in SE Asia to shit on SG food, kinda like in the West we make fun of British food. But it's not so bad. And SG chilli crab is actually one of the best foods on the planet. I would say skip the boring chicken rice and go straight for the spicy crabs.The best Indian food I ever ate was in a Singapore hawker stall
>>2850450Chongqing and Chengdu sound like fun places to visit with soul, there was probably a Chinese emperor who created a monument there because he was hysterical one day.
I think Singapore is very "meh", just the these countries for travelling,>taiwan>ph>mexico>cuba>indonesiait's just mediocrity all day longVietnam was dope, as was Mainland China, Japan, and BC
>>2850526Not wrong, it's just mid.
>>2850526Indonesia has nature that can't really be had anywhere else. Its volcanoes and smaller islands in particular.
>>2850531Same beach, different shape of it's perimeter. And no where on the planet has volcanoes erupting, so that's a mooty moot point too
>>2850531Indonesia is really fucking cool and has a lot of culture
>>2850533>And no where on the planet has volcanoes eruptingeh? there are literally dozens of active volcanoes around the world at any point in time
>>2850548nothing ever happens though
>>2849995reminds of things I drew as a kid
>>2850492So like Neuschwanstein Castle in Germany?I'm not actually sure if China has any real equivalents to that. Like "goofy random edifice built somewhere by mad emperor". Maybe the Chengde Summer Palace? Or the Beijing Summer Palace, in particular the stone boat? Except for the latter it'd be the empress dowager rather than the emperor?Yeah, probably that.
>>2850577I always forget about the Jin dynasty. The Neuschwanstein castle is glorious, I never knew about it's origin story. Is there an architecture thread anon I love learning of their history
>>2850456Some people should stick to the tourist traps, where they can find purpose in getting fleeced by an endless array of businesses like the sheeple they are. Independent travel to non-tourist oriented, i.e. authentic destinations isn't for them.BTW Johor Bahru has a kinda fucked up layout, and is full of South Asian migrant laborers, but it does make a good place to snipe at cute Sinkie girls if you're not too rich. They cross in droves to go shopping in JB.
Does Singapores government care if we're on this website or torrenting
Everywhere you look in Singapore there are indians. It's really gross. Go somewhere else unless you want your field of vision polluted by these pot bellied bobbleheads. They all take the ferry to go rape literal sex slaves in indonesian brothels next door every weekend too. So you can be sure if its an indian worker in singapore, he's also been raping.
>>2850037It's a tyre company
>>2850617They're not that bad.
>>2850619Why they with restaurants though
>>2850845You need to drive a car with tyres to get to a restaurant
>>2850851Oh they're fancy restaurants then
>>2849948>FoodThey have a roasted chicken that was awarded a 1-star Michelin and it is the cheapest Michelin-tier meal you can eat. Did you try it?
>>2849949yep, but to be fair, Singapore is still worth a visit to see what a post-capitalist soulless hyper optimized East Asian city state looks like, one legit thing it offers is well paying white collar jobs, the education system is good in terms of academics but it’s a gamble because your kids might not experience unstructured growth and relationship skills, for a single person it can be a good place to do a corporate expat stint for 1-2 yearsOh it’s also been jeeted for decades now
>>2850867>a post-capitalist soulless hyper optimized East Asian city stateyet people in Singapore are less autistic and bug-like than in a place like JapanI don't really understand the complaints about it being "soulless". it was a small but chill destination when I visited
>>2850915soulless is a vague term that means something different for everyone, having lived in Yokohama/Tokyo for two years I think Japan is more isolating because building a relationship with locals is harder than Singapore, but Singapore is more materialistic for sure, ironically I would still rather live in Yokohama than Singapore, cost of living is more reasonable in Japan than Singapore and obviously there is more to do in Japan
>>2850926Don't most people wear T shirts in singapore? Daily wear?
>>2850928Singapore is a hot and humid climate year round, no winter or fall, monsoon season, so that’s not great, Japan has monsoon season but still gets a winter, skiing is amazing, no such thing in Singapore
>>2850915>I don't really understand the complaints about it being "soulless". it was a small but chill destination when I visitedit's largely because most of the people on here equate "asia" with their poverty tourism fantasiesan actual asian country that has a higher quality of life than they have at home breaks their mindsamericans especially have weird fantasies about singapore perhaps because of that tom waits song or perhaps because they have relatives who were stationed there in the military at some point when singapore was still developing who told them tales about what they did there and somehow they are surprised when they show up and discover that modern singaporeans don't have the need to pander to them to extract cash from them like e.g. thailand or indonesia does
what is the official language of singapore? i know they have high english fluency and also many heritage chinese speakers but what language do they use for their legal and internal business decisions?
>>2850940singlish, nobody speaks mandarin over there
vietnam won biglyhttps://youtu.be/eBeuKg-OhGY
>>2850945its script is apparently made to ensure people can learn it better
>>2850031lol wrong. It's one of the few places in Asia where getting citizenship is actually possible.
>>2850955it's not, you're talking about a PR
>>2850946What did they mean by this?
>>2850961They put tones on each letter, making it easier to learn compared to other scripts.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%E1%BB%AF_N%C3%B4m Imagine having Chu Nom instead. Vietnamese women are beautiful, too.
>>2850955Bullshit. What desirable countries in Asia can you not get citizenship in?
what is the benefit of SG citizensip over PR?
>>2851002company DEI, nothing else
>>2851002singapore supposedly has the world's most powerful passport. no visa required practically anywhere in the world
>>2851057Not like you'd get citizenship there anyway? Belgium is better. Sunk cost fallacy.
>>2850993The fuck type of stupid comment is this? Getting citizenship is a pain in the ass almost everywhere in asia unless you are willing to marry a local and wait 10 years+ to be naturalized.Think before you type some dumb shit you retard.
>>2851057It's a shit ranking because why is travel the main criterion? If you have any of the "4th place" passports you can literally LIVE anywhere you want in Europe FOREVER. If you have a Singaporean passport you can live in Singapore.
>>2851098south america will always be the best to get ez citizenship>>2851106they dont have good welfare either
>>2850166>NOOO I AM A WHITE MALE AND WOMEN DIDN'T COME GRABBING ME FOR THE FEW USD WORTH OF LOCAL CURRENCY I HAVE ON ME!!!!Dude, go into the wrong shopping center in Singapore and Chinese prostitutes will practically assault you. >>2850169>They're beyond done in 3 days.Its a good place to travel home from after a main holiday in another SEA country but I wouldn't travel to SEA just to go to Singapore.
>>2851098So you made up a bullshit claim and now you're triggered because you're wrong. 10 years for citizenship is common. And many Asian countries don't even require 10 years. You're just retarded and don't know what you're talking about. But yes. Get angry. Dumb people tend to do that when they're wrong. Try calming down. You're frustrated. :)
>>2850915Japan has incredible geography, so even if you don't like interacting with Japanese people, you can have the time of your life exploring the landforms. Singapore's geography is objectively trash. The coastline is disgusting swamp, and the interior has no topography. All you have is a city and its suburbs. My rule of thumb, you have to have spending power equivalent to or greater than the median income to have a good time visiting any country and not feel like a poorfag penny-pincher. In Singapore, the median salary is $5200 USD per month. That's well outside the range of most leisure travelers on this board. By comparison, Malaysia's median salary is $665 per month, enabling a traveler to feel comfortably well-off on a mere $30 per day. >>2850938Lower salaries and less formal employment creates more interesting streets for the casual visitor. Instead of everyone being an office wagie drone huuurrying to and from their oh-so-important jobs, people are out on the streets finding all sorts of creative ways to make a living. And yeah, we all "fantasize" about paying $30 per night for a nice room instead of $230 per night. It's perfectly natural to feel offended by the price-gouging which occurs when there is way too much fuckin' money chasing too few goods.
>>2850938>it's largely because most of the people on here equate "asia" with their poverty tourism fantasiesEvery time a Singaporean talks. See: >>2849968No. People don't go to Asian for "poverty tourism fantasies." They go to Asia to see a place with some interesting culture that isn't just a watered down version of the west, some good food, and some unique scenery and architecture that they can't see at home. Singaporeans desperately want to be white Europeans, and they think they if they get enough money, then all the thousands of years of culture and architecture and tradition will poof into existence and everyone will respect them. But as this anon >>2851143 said, Singaporeans are too busy going to their fake jobs, being in adult day care in their offices pretending to do things of value, eating at chain restaurants that people can eat anywhere in the west, wearing western branded fashion that we westerners think are boring, driving western cars that westerners see every day, visiting malls with western shops that we thought were stupid and irrelevant 20 years ago.Westerners go to Asia to see and experience something new. Singapore is a cheap Chinese knockoff of the west. It's a creepy little country with no culture that desperately tries to be a western country. It's a theme park ripoff of the real stuff that we can see at home, but better and cheaper. Singaporeans don't beg us on the streets for our money. They just beg us online for our approval and demand that we go and pay to look at their money. You beg us online to pay to look at your money. How pathetic is that? A tiny little country in an economic bubble with no history, no culture, just begging for white approval and tourism dollars. If tourism died tomorrow, Thailand's culture would still thrive. So would Indonesia's. Singapore would be left with an abandoned airport and shopping malls full of American restaurants.
>>2850579This is from the Qing not the Jin.
>>2851106>why is travel the main criterion?because that other anon asked why citizenship is better than pr. i answered.the question was not "compare singapore to europe">>2851143>Japan has incredible geographyjapan has an area 500x that of singapore>>2851143>>2851146good grief. show me on the doll where singapore hurt you
singapore is cool, when i was in the navy we pulled into sembawang and took a cab to go the four floors of whores, then i got black out drunk and barely made it back to the ship
>>2849977>Americans>cultureLOL
>>2851198They literally have culture though?
>>2851198Practically all media is dominated by the USA: movies, tv, music. Besides the 2-3 "Asia" apps like baidu and wechat all other social media are run by American companies, and the "Asia" apps are just basically copy pasting American apps.90% of the world runs on a 5 day work week that got popularized by Henry Ford... You probably typed this shit out wearing jeans and Nikes on either your American made iPhone or your American made Android you got during a black friday sale.In fact America dominates culture so much that what you think about as "culture" is just a country's 2-3 dishes and the weird old clothes they used to wear like lederhosen. Oh and maybe a retarded dance they have and for some countries the fact that they take a nap in the middle of the day.
>>2851284>Besides the 2-3 "Asia" apps like baidu and wechat all other social media are run by American companies, and the "Asia" apps are just basically copy pasting American apps.Asian websites all copy American websites its insaneJust look at this https://www.chinesetest.cn/test-centers
>>2851286I was more talking about bigger scale Asian apps/websites. For example Grab/Gojek is basically just a copy of Uber.The one thing I will hand to Asia (specifically China) was the creation of TikTok/short form video. That's probably the only meaningful cultural export that has come from outside the USA in the last ?? years (decades even?)..... bravo! You guys figured out instead of 6 second videos like Vine the ideal short form is 60 seconds.
>>2851296It's so strange how Grab is so common in the entireity of east asia, from Vietnam to Singapore. What do you think about Wechat? I heard it was pretty different.
>>2849948sounds like you're poor. >Experiencesplenty of shit to do, just gotta pay for it. >Buildingsthere's plenty of good architecture in the CBD and it's like a more toned down or westernized T1 city in China. >Womenzoomer women are all terminally online gold diggers that will throw themselves at you>Storesbasically nothing but what OP described and luxury. was kinda sad they don't have convinience stores like other asian countries>Cultureagree singlish sounds retarded>Chinesethey do speak chinese if you speak to a chinese>Geylangfucking sucks>Naturego to JB and head north if you want nature>Beachesdid you go to the islands? but yeah, all mid.>Currencytrue>Friendshard to make but generally good dudes. made friends with an interpol there actually. kinda reminds me of the schizo guy from true detective but more chinky
Why does the face on the Singapore dollar look like it was drawn by an amateur? The lips, eyes, the shading. It's all very slightly off. I can't be the only person who notices it.
>>2851336i always thought that horrible moustache gave that guy the look of a stereotypical spivbowever it is far from being the worst banknote design in the world
>>2851336Their dollar is so fucking thin
>>2851336Are there other places on this site to discuss autistic currency shit?
>>2851519Try it here. Currency is very /trv/ imo. Slow enough for niche topics to take off, and on topic.
>>2851519Names for the general?>/cur/>/note/>/$/
>>2851558/note/ sounds sick>>2851557Yeah, >>>/his/ died in terms of discussion. I go to >>>/out/ sometimes.
>>2851334>plenty of shit to do, just gotta pay for it. can you give me a few spots to get to? i'm going there on the 15th
>>2851719MBS Casino / cluball the other shit around MBS - doable in a dayday shopping at orchard, lot of good places to eat near there toochinatown / jeet-town haw par villa / drinking with chinese niggas at night - go there and meet some chinese tourist niggas to drink withclarke quay nightlife shit - good bars and clubs in area, cool place to street-drink by river too, more degen, largely white nightlife areazoo and nature park - meh, also doable in a dayyou could also do a day and onions-out and go to universal and all the touristy shit near there but it'd be better to do if you're not alone - SG is a mall country too so a lot of the better places to eat or drink are inside malls of some kind, kinda like thailand in that regard. they used to have nightlife malls with hoes too.
>>2851833Thanks anon, will check them out
>>2851833>clarke quay nightlife shit - good bars and clubs in area, cool place to street-drink by river too, more degen, largely white nightlife areawhen is the last time you went? clarke quay has been in a steady decline for the last 10 years and never really recovered after covid, they built a fucking supermarket in the middle of it
Why didn't the Chinese sinicize Singapore?
>>2851986last time i went was 2021 during the tail end of covid lmfao. did they really build a supermarket? is zouk still even there?
>>2849968Fuck you RAGBRAI is a worthy bucket list item and better than anything Singapore can provide
>>2852057Des Moines, Iowa is a utopia, people just haven't been there enough.
>>2851986COVID neutered singapore
>>2852017yeah there's a fucking FairPrice supermarket right in the middle of Clarke Quay. technically you can buy beer there I guess but the vibe got completely fucked. tourists disappeared during covid, they also canceled night buses which caused local Singaporeans to stop hanging out there, and the area just got completely fucking devastated. Zouk still exists but last time I went it was just rich Chinese kids sitting around and taking instagram selfiescool hangout areas like Clarke Quay, Club Street, etc. no longer really exist. it's really sad how little Singapore cares about allowing people to have a semblance of fun.even despite this I would still like Singapore for their bar scene, but last time I went there and wanted to go my favorite bar (Smoke & Mirrors on top of the National Gallery) and saw that it was permanently fucking closed. place is fucked
>>2852200Singapore should just ban alcohol. If they kill people for having some dried leaves in their backpack, they should kill people for drinking alcohol. And I'm not kidding. Sell tickets to watch drunkies get dropped with a short rope and maybe people will finally have something fun to do.
>>2852200So what even is there to look at now?
>>2852208typical pothead logic
>>2852211Nothing. Singapore wants degens to fuck off and to enjoy their gay little slave plantation. You want nightlife? You get on the ferry with the indians and you go across the water to indonesia and stir spooge with the rest of the subhumans. The 10/10 vietnamese angels will remain but only for rich finance and nepo baby chads for $500 an hour, which is nothing to them (but is for you). So go fuck the blown out sex slaves in an indonesian brothel, remember to piss after otherwise you will catch the 'Mumbai Drip'.
>>2852237So it's not even a good place to live in anymore?
>>2852239It's fine if you are not a lifestyle degenerate, and you have a job or a life here. It's not such a great place anymore if you are a massively retarded coomer, since locals are wise to you, and freelancers know they can just have condom sex with tiny pp chinese for same or better price than you offer. Tl;dr - everyone is wise to the games white dudes used to play here, and if you aren't making dosh and living the cash infused lifestyle, you will be treated like dregs.
>>2852244What is the perception of white people there? I thought they believed us to be rock stars over there
>>2849972>eh?>>2849972>eh?>>2849975>eh?is this internet singlish?
>>2852239honestlynowhere is a good place to live nowadayseverywhere became shitmaybe singapore was hit exceptionally hard, but honestly nightlife is fucking shit everywhere compared to what it was 10+ years agothe world is just shit man
>>2852255Idk where you are getting your info but it's about 10 years out of date, especially for Singapore.Nobody in SEA worships whites anymore. If you want to be worshipped for being white, you can have that in Africa.
>>2852284>the world is just shit mango ahead and leave it then anonpersonally i'm fine
>>2852266Probably
>>2852266No. English people say, at least in the north, say "eh".
you dont even need to enter the country to realize singapore is dogshitjust go to the airport and you'll realize its 90% jeetswhat a shithole lmaoplus their online culture is fucking cringe
>>2852484Who gives a shit about the online culture of anywhere? Literally the entire point of travel is to immerse yourself in "real" culture.
>>285248490% flips and malays in the airport
>>2852492Of which Singapore has none. Hence why there's nothing of interest there.
>>2852531Entirely subjective. As a Brit I like it because our culture influenced theirs and I find that cool.
>>2852535Raffles is a good place
>>2852288People in rural Malaysia can be very friendly toward a white visitor. >>2852208Alcohol drinking is an integral part of Chinese culture. They will never give it up. You can drink alcohol daily and still be a good slave. In fact, alcohol drinking helps you become a better slave by giving you an outlet to all the frustrations that arise from your slave status.
>>2852599Why do people not like alcohol then?
>>2852632who does? antisocial incels on 4channel.org? truly a mystery indeedsingapore only has restrictions on alcohol because jeets got drunk and burned a bus some years ago. multiculturalism at its finest, as usual.
>>2852599Any cool Chinese drinking practices?
>>2849948Wow, OP seems poor and boring, and possibly ugly. I've never seen such a negative reaction to Singapore based on his luck with women, seriously. Recommending Dubai over Singapore immediately shows us who you are.Traveling for food is not overrated, and can be the sole reason to go somewhere, no matter the price.
>>2853481>Wow, OP seems poorSee:>>2849968
>>2852200yeah that fucking sucks. zouk was like the one club in SG that wasn't just chinese zoomers flexing. did anything replace it?
>>2853483It's amazing how that one post practically filters away everyone.
>>2852632in my experience, "chinese drinking practices" largely centre around getting off your face, trying to persuade someone else to pay, and spending the rest of the time bitching about other chinese diaspora type people in other locations. example, chinese in malaysia spend the whole time bitching about honkies and sinkies
>>2853608>chinese in malaysia spend the whole time bitching about honkies and sinkieswhats their problem with them?
>>2852228he's not wrong
>>2850603Bump
>>2849948What the fuck does someone even do in northern singapore
>>2854738secret singapore stuff. we don't talk about it to outsiders
