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Animatronic Michelangelo edition

>Last Thread: >>2844519

>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?
/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net
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Wait fuck I should have made the OP image christmas related
But I didn't take any pictures of any specific christmas shit when I was at a theme park recently I don't think
Argh
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>>2850713
I'm of the opinion that Rip Ride Rockit was a phenomenal idea that was just executed poorly.

Imagine a launch coaster similar to velocicoaster that pulled you into a room with an animatronic DJ and the DJ would randomly choose a song from a set playlist before launching you out into the track. The song selected played for the entire train and lighting effects on the ride like glowing pillars and tunnels you ride through are all synced to the music.

Dogshit AI slop related
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What is the most optimal day of the week or day in general to go to one of the major theme parks in Orlando? Would it be weekdays outside of holidays, since most people would be at work or school? Not exactly, because most people have that same idea and go there to avoid the holidays being "crowded", thus making non-holiday days at say Epcot more crowded than holidays such as today. For example, Test Track went as low as 50 minutes in wait time today according to https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks/5/rides/160, while a couple days ago it went as high as 2 hours.
Basically, it seems the optimal way is "whatever way other people aren't thinking of, thus it'll be less crowded", which is easier said than done as others may have the same idea you may have, thus making it crowded anyways.
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>>2850732
>optimal day of the week
just go against the flow of what the normies want to see. for example, do animal kingdom on monday instead of magic kingdom, and never go to epcot or epic universe on a tuesday
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>>2850734
That's a foolproof plan... until normies do it too, making it unsuitable, which is my point
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Wait actually, now I'm curious how unpopulated Animal Kingdom is on Christmas Eve/Day
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>>2850735
don't underestimate the urgency normies have to see the fucking castle as soon as possible.
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>>2850736 (me)
Update: I may be onto something
>>2850737
Indeed
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https://rcdb.com/560.htm
>RnRC's Designer: Peter Clerx
>Same track layout as "Xpress", which Clerx also designed
Wait wtf
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>>2850739
Yeah there's an open air clone.
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>You will never again go on an indoor coaster while Love In An Elevator blares in the train's speakers
Why even live
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>>2850743
I snuck my earpods on the mummy and rode it to Welcome to the Jungle. Grab life by the horns
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>>2850743
Because there are many better coasters out there to ride
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>>2850745
Fuck off mate
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>>2850752
Sorry, but there are. And so many, too. I'm glad I'm not too scared to ride them.
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>>2850756
>I'm glad I'm not too scared to ride them
I'm not scared of those either, but what separates you from me is that I'm not so much of a loser that I would hate on genuinely good rides such as RRnC
You have to be a real loser at life to hate on things that are fun. Disney and Universal must live in your head rent free, huh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dze2kpuGuvI
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>>2850759
bot
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>>2850760
Nope
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>>2850761
Exactly how a bot would reply
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>>2850765
Ok, schizo, whatever you say. How do we know YOU'RE not a bot? You always reply to cool video links with "bot".
Methinks you have mental issues
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>>2850757
>genuinely good rides such as RRnC
It's not a genuinely good ride. It's a middle of the pack ride at best. The Aerosmith theme was outdated and cringe for the last 20 years and they've somehow managed to make the next theme even more outdated and cringe - unless you're a manchild of course.
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>>2850770
Terrible bait
You must be fun at parties
>le hecking outdated!
You sound like an SJW
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>>2850770
Genuinely thinking that actual cool things are cringe is what real manchildren do
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>>2850772
>>2850774
Cope and seethe all you want bitch
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You know what's funny about the anti-/dug/ fag? He thinks I'm the one seething, when he keeps getting owned and trolled by me so much that I live in his head rent free. He can't stop seething every time I suffocate his neanderthal head between my asscheeks, bringing him on the edge of death begging for mercy. He always seethes about true theme park kino while shilling gay Six Flags slop. What a jew.
I am always one step ahead of him.
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Anyways, now that I've left the faggot with enough to make him seethe for an entire day, I shall cease giving him (You)s and proceed to ignore him just to add salt to the wound.
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>>2850731
Kino
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>/tpg/rcg/ for no reason at all on christmas eve
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>>2850781
The other general I frequent has a lot more shitflinging today as well, I wonder what causes it.
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>>2850777
>>2850778
>>2850782
>I wonder what causes it
(You) being told a mediocre coaster at Disney is still mediocre and Muppetslop is gay
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Some early reviews for Falcons Flight are coming in from some of the coaster diehards since the park is running previews, and the current consensus is it is a great ride but underwhelming for its size and not GOAT material, and some saying not even the best at that park
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>>2850789
Not that surprised. The layout just doesn't look right, especially the big drop. Are there any real POVs of it yet?
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>>2850790
Not yet, probably in the next few days (it officially opens the 31st)
The one thoosies who went top reviews are raving about is the giant tilt coaster, that one they are saying is the park's best and an actual contender for world's best coaster
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I refuse to believe going 600ft in the air is boring. The view alone is gonna floor people
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Trying to plan a multi-park trip for my spring break (March 21-29) but pretty much every park is closed around that ttime. Right now my main plan is DLP/Efteling, any other clusters of good parks that are open around that time? Already been to the SoCal/Florida parks as well as the Disney parks in Tokyo
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You know, they could have made an Odyssey ride in anticipation of Nolan's movie than that Wicked shit
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>>2850612
>British people are such a pleasure compared to the Brazilians who are entitled and cut in line.
we Brits will forever get in line for everything (except at the bar in a pub - there it is free for all)
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>>2850826
>except in the pub
Do you still live in the UK? If not, I have some bad news for you....
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>>2850786
Yeah. And the music choices aren't even the deep cuts that James Gunn would normally pick. Instead it's normie music everyone knows from the 80s
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>>2850829
Yeah i do. I’ve heard rumours they’re queuing in pubs. I never go anymore desu it’s over £6 last I went for a drink where I live
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>>2850830
inxs and pina colada are normie core
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>>2850731
If it was a B&M hyper-style coaster it might still be there. But maybe not because of the service life cycles meme they used to get rid of the dragons and original hulk
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>>2850879
Original Hulk was retracked so that Disney's lawyers couldn't claim before a judge that the land was being allowed to fall into disrepair and void the marvel license. MSI will always be extremely well cared for just so they can retain the marvel merch licenses.
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I got $200 for Christmas (my only gift I got this year apart from my trip to Epcot a couple days ago lmao) and am considering spending it on a park ticket. I live in Orlando, so Disney, Universal, and SeaWorld are in my area.
I've already gone to USF, Epic Universe, and Epcot recently. With over $200 in hand, what park should I visit within the next few days? Islands of Adventure? Animal Kingdom? Hollywood Studios? Magic Kingdom? SeaWorld?
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This Christmas would have been better if I had gotten my cup of COFFEE!
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>>2850910
Honestly just save it and do Studios/Islands during Mardi Gras. Probably the best time to visit those imo. The food trucks and atmosphere is pretty cool and the parade is goated
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>still havent announced the RRR replacement theme

I wonder what the wait is for? Is there an earnings call they wanna save it for or something?
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>>2850992
>TFW They are buddy-buddy with apple but won't make it the Beatles Helter Skelter
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>>2851040
Oops, thought you were talking about Rockin' Roller Coaster
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>>2850970
>do Studios/Islands during Mardi Gras. Probably the best time to visit those imo
really? what capacity is it like during this time as well?
just found out it is still on when I go (Mar 25th)
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>>2851041
They're replacing RnRC with a Muppets version (Because they shut down Muppetvision in their infinite wisdom (or lack thereof))
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Fuck, now I'm mad Disney didn't just get Paul McCartney and Ringo to sign on for a Beatles retheme of RnRC
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>>2851073
Just crossed my mind that Muse could open a theme park, and it'd be based as fuck. One land for each of the older albums.
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>>2850992
Velocicoaster wasn't announced until it was already vertical for some time. Universal loves holding off announcements as long as possible. It can be annoying, but I much prefer it to Disney's policy of announcing shit ten years in advance then cutting half of it.
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>>2851041
>>2851072
>>2851073
That's what I'm saying!
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>>2851108
>ten years in advance
plus the rest. We are 10 yrs from villains land NOW
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>>2850731
Lame. Then I have to listen to someone else’s trash music.
>>2850743
That was the worst song on that ride. Thank god I never got it.
>>2850799
Not of if they’ll be open then but there are fuckloads of good parks in that Paris-Netherlands-Belgium-West Germany area.
>>2850879
B&M hypers are too graceful for a music coaster. Needs to be a twister. I think the layouts RRR and RNRC had were perfect for what the parks wanted, which clearly wasn’t a super intense layout except for the beginning. If more intensity was an option I think something like Siren’s Curse post-drop would be the way to go.

Dragons was removed because there was only one good B&M model at that time and they weren’t it, and they couldn’t make up for it with dueling anymore.
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>>2851072
On what basis are the Muppets relevant enough to deserve that coaster?
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I’m late but RNRC is pretty mild after the launch and sea serpent (which is right after the launch). Here’s its clone which is outdoors so you can see it:

https://youtu.be/XUmSuR4iJ2A

There’s almost nothing going on after the sea serpent, just one corkscrew and I guess an air time hill before the brakes. The music and theming did all the heavy lifting (which is why it’s weird that Walibi put it outdoors with nothing to hide its mid-ness).
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>>2851182
The showrunner of that Electric Mayhem show that was cancelled after one season included "We can replace Aerosmith with Muppets at the park" as part of his show pitch and they decided to go with that even after killing the show.
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>>2851191
They aren’t relevant then? I’ll wait til I ride it to hate but I can’t imagine anything they could do that will make this a good idea.
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has anything new come to Dollywood or SDC?
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>>2851182
There's a fair amount of Disney stuff going on desu
https://allears.net/2025/11/18/disney-shares-new-updates-for-10-massive-park-expansions/
not sure making the frontier land expansion be related to Cars makes all that much sense but the theming seems decent at least.
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What do you guys think the crowds will be like at Epic in September? Will they have died down a bit or will it still be super packed?
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>>2851073
That would have been great. Reminds me of the Led Zeppelin ride at Hard Rock Park. Not that I ever rode it.
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>>2850937
lol
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The original three signature hotels at Universal are still more expensive to stay in than the brand new Helios hotel. The express passes are such a huge perk and staying at Epic Universe and being able to walk right in isn't enough to make up for it.
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>>2851232
From what I've seen the general rule is to go on more expensive days. Epic gets crowded on weekdays and is emptier on weekends and holidays
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>>2851232
labor day and the week of labor day will be the best time to go
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>>2851073
>ywn ride a 3 minute dark roller coaster that just blares the outro of i want you (shes so heavy)
it hurts
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>>2850910 (me)
Update: Went to Hollywood Studios yesterday.
Eh.
It was okay, I guess.

Here's my thoughts:
>God I miss the Great Movie Ride, but Runaway Railway is an OK replacement.
>As someone who hates the Star Wars sequels, I think the rides at Galaxy's Edge are not just good, but possibly the best rides in the park
>I miss Muppetvision and hate what Disney is doing, but I am kinda interested to see what the Monsters Inc area will be like. I think I even had a dream about it lol
>Something weird is that Runaway Railway and RotR use the same track system. It's very noticeable when you ride both rides back to back
>I skipped Toy Story Mania this time around, mostly because it kept breaking down that day
>Tower of Terror is still fucking great
>RnRC is still great too. Gonna miss that one. I got Love in an Elevator and Walk this Way on my ride, funnily enough
>Star Tours had the lowest wait time in the park, holy shit
>Surprisingly, there was no 2+ hour wait time at all today
>I was going to see the Indiana Jones show, but ride wait times made that difficult. Also left early, so no Fantasmic. Maybe next time, I guess.
>Smugglers Run is Mission Space but good
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I find it interesting btw how RotR's unload and parts of its preshow (which is an immersive walkthrough) take place outdoors
Also gotta love how the CMs are in character as rebel -- er, "resistance" soldiers and empire -- er, "first order" soldiers
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You know what Disney World needs in one of its parks? Hear me out.
A Fox Animation Land.
As in, a land for all the Fox "Animation Domination" shows. I.E Simpsons, Futurama, Bob's Burgers, Family Guy, etc
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I live in Orlando. Do you envy me?
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>>2851300
No. It's a dump
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>Stranger Things is having a Game of Thrones level disastrous final season

Thank fucking god. No Hawkins at Universal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV1Ma6ee42M
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>>2851307
bot
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>>2851293
>pic
I went in blind thinking it was going to be a lite rollercoaster or something, that reveal felt like breaking a fourth wall.
I dont even like star wars at all.

>Toy Story Mania
Scared our toddler out of his mind, I knew there was going to be too much going on but the knee restraints leave me baffled why would they let any kid below 3 years old, he tried in vain to reach for the wheel but once the restrain came down I knew it was over.
Universal turned him down for Yoshi but Disney is ok letting toddlers into this thing, one day one child is going to fall into the tracks.
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>Thread started Christmas Eve
Sorry for the delay folks, I somehow avoided 4chan for a few days.
Anywho, lots of housekeeping this time:
Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:
Florida:
>Monsters Inc. at Studios opens 2027?
> Dinosaur and Restaurantasaurus closing Feb 2, 2026
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Liberty Belle Steamship future plans unknown, but intact as of late Nov 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes by 'Spring' 2026 w/ Rainbow Caverns
>New Frozen ride animatronics Feb 2026
>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin reopens Spring 2026
>Rock N' Rollercoaster: Muppets opens summer 2026, multiple animatronic Muppets confirmed (Scooter included)
>Aerosmith version final day is March 1
>Volcano Bay closed Oct 26, 2026 thru Mar 24, 2027 (thnx anon for the correction)
>Lost Continent demolition underway
>Replacement for Poseidon's Fury to be built by Intamin
>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed Jan-Nov 2026.
>RRR Replacement early 2027?

California:
>Fast and Furious Hollywood coaster 2026
>Mr. Lincoln shows when Walt is uncooperative. True rotation soon?
>Mike & Sully closes 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Soarin' Over 'Murica by July 4 2026
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Frozen land and Rapunzel teacups, opens in Paris March 29, 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>New scenes in Rivers of the Far West in 2026
>Universal UK set for 2031

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?
Did I miss anything?
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I really wonder how RotR and Cosmic Rewind's preshows work. You know what I'm talking about if you've ridden those rides.
>Cosmic Rewind "changing the room" (as in, teleporting you to a spaceship)
>The entirety of RotR's preshow, especially when you board a rebel ship, then end up in a star destroyer
I'm guessing elevators or something. Cosmic Rewind's use of pitch blackness is suspicious
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>>2851322
>RotR's preshow, especially when you board a rebel ship, then end up in a star destroyer
It's just a turntable. There are three ship interiors. So there can be one loading, one in transit, and one unloading simulataneously.
Sauce:parklore.com, they've got hundreds of sweet diagrams
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>>2851324
Ah, neat
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>>2851321
>Did I miss anything?
News from parks that aren't Disney or Universal.
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Ah shit, here we go again
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>>2851330
>>>/diy/
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>>2851321
>>2851341
This isn't Disney/Universal General, it's
>/rcg/ - roller coaster general
>/tpg/ - theme park general
Literally right in the name. At least provide a modicum of news about parks that aren't just those two.
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>>2851330
>>2851343
pic related

>>2851321
Thank you for your effort, as always.
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>>2851322
>>Cosmic Rewind "changing the room" (as in, teleporting you to a spaceship)
It blew my mind the first time I saw it. The second time I paid attention, and I could kind of see in the dark that the walls get lifted up to reveal the bigger room. That's why they make everyone stand in the middle.
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>>2851322
>Cosmic Rewind's use of pitch blackness is suspicious
If you look at google maps youll see they have an entire separate building for the actual ride.
Once you get on, "going back in time" is the car moving to the other building. The changing room is just queue management.
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>>2851353
I meant it goes pitch black in the preshow. It goes pitch black right during the teleportation sequence
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when you think about it desu, imagineers are basically just magicians put in charge of designing a theme park
a lot of the famous tricks used in disney rides are not too far removed from magic tricks
they use shit like misdirection, sensory illusions, etc
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>all this shit shut in Florida just in time for my visit
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Supposedly this restaurant is going to be closed for most of the year for renovations. What could they possibly be doing that would take that long?
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>>2851379
I'd imagine they're completely gutting it out. More efficient layout, bigger more, modern kitchen, the ability to do a bunch of stuff with it at HHN.

More people served faster with less wasted time from staff due to bottlenecks and tight working areas.
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>>2851351
If you can find that much news about Disney and Universal, you should include news about parks like Cedar Point, Knott's, Dollywood, etc. as well.

This is /tpg/+/rcg/, it's not /dug/.
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>2851385 (No (You) for you)
Get better material
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>>2851386
In the last thread (You) said (You) weren't going to give me any more (You)s:
>>2846084
>Last (you) you are getting from me.

There are many parks besides Disney and Universal, and you should post some news/updates from them, too.
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>2851389 (Still depriving you of your precious (You)s. (Pro tip: This is not a (You)))
I mean "get better material" as in your schtick is getting old
No one here likes you. Do this thread a favor and kill yourself.
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>>2851385
You are not the authority of this general. If you don't like the Disney and Universal discussion, then get out.
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>>2851385
>Cedar Point
Literally who
>Knotting
No thanks, I'm not a homo, but you clearly are.
>Dollywood
I don't play with dolls
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>>2851385
do it yourself nigger
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RIP Muppetvision
At least the Monsters Inc land might be cool
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>>2851395
I don't know where to find news like that but you seem to, so it would be nice to have some items regarding other parks instead of attempting to commandeer this thread to be only Disney and Universal.
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What the fuck
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>>2851400
This is normal at Studios, less common at Disneyland.
They should reset two of the simulators in Florida to the original show.
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>>2851385
>Cedar Point
literally nothing lol
>Knott's
Montezooma is still a perpetual construction site
>Dollywood
The rocking boat they're getting actually seems interesting
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>>2851414
Alright. What about Busch Gardens Tampa, Busch Gardens Virginia, Silver Dollar City, Six Flags Over Texas, Six Flags Magic Mountain, Six Flags Great Adventure, Six Flags Great America, Six Flags Over Georgia, La Ronde, Six Flags St. Louis, Six Flags Mexico, Six Flags Fiesta Texas, Worlds of Fun, Canada's Wonderland, Dorney Park, Carowinds, Kings Island, Kings Dominion, Hersheypark, Sea World Orlando, Sea World San Antonio, Kennywood, Holiday World, Nagashima Spa Land, Alton Towers, Energylandia, Efteling, Liseburg, Walibi Belgium, Walibi Holland, Parque Warner Madrid, Europa Park, and Phantasialand?
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>>2851421
knoebels snubbed
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>AP Renewal coming up
>No free months promotion on the horizon

Give me free shit you fuckers.
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>>2851431
Pay up, piggie. It's not like you're not going to renew it.
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>>2851379
I'm not optimistic because they absolutely FUCKED the Citywalk Starbucks. They clearly hired the same bitch that designs the kitchen of every upscale AIrBnB. Try to look at this without wanting to vomit. Imagine waiting all morning to drink coffee and this much wood paneling is the first thing your eyes adjust to. Like a doctor's office tongue depressor for the eyes. Disgusting!

>>2851432
I am obviously going to renew it, but they did the 2 free months promotion last time and it was nice. I typically wait until a week or two after it expires just in case they drop that deal or similar deal in the spring.

The question this time is do I upgrade to Premier and ascend to the 20% off discount, free HHN ticket, and free Express after 4pm? Like is it worth it? I assume the new coaster is gonna take a lot of the line away from Hagrids and Velocicoaster (in theory)
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>>2851431
>universal ap expires at the end of february
>still not a single world about epic aps
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>>2851437
I think that's looking like a 2027 or even beyond thing dude. The demand is too high and the capacity is too low. If they did it it would probably necessitate a reservation system. 50% off individual day tickets would be a nice perk for the time being though. I think the AP perks get announced for the year in January
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>>2851379
Probably just overhauling it for mobile order like was done at Circus McGurkus and Mel's
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>>2851434
What's the point in making the serving area look like that if they are going to leave the ceiling immediately past the counter as the pipes and shit?
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>>2851454
It used to be kept intentionally dark in there with moody lighting so the ceiling wasn't as noticeable. I swear it's like they have a quota to change shit to qualify for a yearly tax break or something cause why the fuck else would you make this change? It's a direct downgrade
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>>2851434
>>2851454
>>2851472
Is talking about the ceiling above the counter in a restaurant in a theme park really that interesting?
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>>2851473
Yes, I'm quite enjoying myself.
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>>2851453
If Stephen Hillenburg could see this he never would have bothered
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>>2851473
Yes.
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What would a Kingdom Hearts ride look like?
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Twitter is full of swiftfags wishing Rock n Roller Coaster would be rethemed to Taylor Swift. I hate swiftfags so much (which is difficult, as my mother is one of them)
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>>2851528
Depends on if Nomura gets free reign or if Disney execs meddle too much.
I'd like to think it would be a traditional tracked dark ride, but not an omnirover.
Or if Disney is finally ambitious, copy the old Spider-Man Scoop from IoA.

Track through a few disney worlds (Hercules and Sleeping Beauty for sure) in your gummi ship ride vehicle. Load station looks like Traverse Town. Have a few trippy effect and witness a battle in the World that Never Was, and see some celebrating at the end.
Oh, and it's 100% canon and essential to understanding the events of KH4.
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Is it true you get unlimited fast pass if you stay at portofino or hard rock at universal Orlando?
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>>2851581
At Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure, yes. It's an amazing perk. Royal Pacific includes it as well.
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>>2851300
Mixed. I actually think Pennsylvania is the overall best place to live for coasters, but only have the year.
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>>2851385
He posted about theme parks so that fits under /tpg/.
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>>2851534
What songs would be best? I could see
>Picture to Burn
>22
>Ready For It
>Cruel Summer
>Mine
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i want an animatronic in my home. perhaps at the front door to greet guests
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>>2851711
You might be able to buy Buzzy on the black market.
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>>2851669
Disney and Universal aren't the only theme parks, and he only posts Disney and Universal updates. Having news from parks other than those would be nice as this isn't /dug/ - it is for all theme parks and coaster discussion.
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>>2851728
i was thinking like a pirate guy or something
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That one anon was right that the difference between a high tech animatronic and a normal one is hand and finger movement
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>>2851733
There are tons of posts in this thread that only mention one chain instead of all the chains. Why do you single out him for bullying?
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>>2851859
Insane. The west has lost its faustian spirit.
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>>2851859
>"Pov"
>Shittiest music ever
>Keeps skipping frames
>far camera angles far from the coaster
Not a pov. Thanks for sharing though
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>>2851864
Yeah that's annoying. Would rather see a daytime POV anyway
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>>2851862
Europe doesn’t even have a giga coaster, they have too many constraints with space and height. The US equivalent of this would be some company starting a theme park in Nevada or Arizona so they could have the space for this. It’s well beyond anything the government would try.

Saudi Arabia is doing this because they’re desperate to diversify their economy as the planet tries to end its fossil fuel dependency. They’re trying to copy UAE, but UAE has been successful in large part due to toning down the weird Muslim shit enough for internationals. Saudi Arabia has not done much of this.
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>>2851862
It's more that this type of park and a Falcons Flight type coaster is not economically viable. Only a massively wealthy government bankrolling the park for economic reasons could allow this to be made.
Qiddiya City will never turn a profit. That does not matter to them because Qiddiya City has far more important goals
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>>2851862
>made in Liechtenstein
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>>2851864
>>2851865
Youtubers were not allowed to ride the coaster during the preview last night, but will be today. Expect the POVs tomorrow or soon. The word from people who have been on it is overwhelmingly positive.

>>2851875
The maintenance alone on a coaster like this astronomical to the point of being unfeasible unless you have other sources of income. Imagine how fast the wheels are gonna wear down.
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>Falcons Flight Queue
>Six Flags theming
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>>2851862
>faustian spirit
the middle east don't make shit, they pay other countries to create things for them.
dont forget, the burj khalifa was designed in chicago
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>>2851887
Presumably unlimited budget and that’s what they come up with?
>>2851875
I wonder if they’re up for it. Intamins half the height like 305 are nightmarish already.
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>>2851904
>Intamins half the height like 305 are nightmarish already.
I can almost guarantee you that Intamin managers told them, very flatly, that it's probable the wheels will have a short life. The Saudis just priced that in since >>2851875
>Qiddiya City has far more important goals
Is correct. It's not operating on the same economic plane as parks in most of the world.

I would say rewheeling the train even every 2 weeks is acceptable to them. They could turn to Zamperla for their experience. . .
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>Why does no one want to go to Six Flags Sand Land or Disneyland Jihad?
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>>2852011
tl;dr
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>>2852011
I think their long term economic strategy doesnt involve western international tourists as much as people assume it does. Countries like India and China with their massive populations are likelier the target with middle eastern tourism. Universal and Disney know damn well Americans are not flying our fat asses over there in sustainable numbers.
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>>2852024
Well honestly I'd rather them vacation there and make a few bucks in the process than them vacation here. That works
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>>2852020
>Retards fighting over taking different sides of the Yeman war and Saudi threatening war if UAE does not leave
Do we really want this to be the place to have a new Disney and Universal?
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Apparently they did not let any
American youtubers ride Falcons Flight and are forcing them to just get regular admission when the park opens tomorrow.
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>>2852032
>Do we really want this to be the place to have a new Disney and Universal?
Yes, imagine a regional nuclear war and EmiratesDisney gets clapped
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>>2852034
And it won't even hurt Disney's bottom line because they aren't spending a dime on construction and operations what with EmiratesDisney being a licensing thing like Tokyo.
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>>2852032
as opposed to having theme parks in a country threatening war with venezuela?
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>>2852041
>actually killing fent traffickers before they can bring enough narcotics into your country to kill 70,000 Americans is bad
Keep your retarded bullshit out of our genny and in reddit where it belongs, thanks.

UAE and the Saudis killing Al Qaeda and the Houthis is based and Americans killing Venezuelan drug smugglers is based. Bad people deserve to die and the good countries that kill those people deserve theme parks.
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For me it's Nightflight Expedition (Opening 2026)
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>>2852048
>UAE and the Saudis killing Al Qaeda and the Houthis is based and Americans killing Venezuelan drug smugglers is based. Bad people deserve to die and the good countries that kill those people deserve theme parks.
Based beyond belief
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Why do normalfags do this?
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after 25 years, SFOT finally has something that makes titan look small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oJshIEWnJ0
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>>2852024
India and China do each have more the population of the west (1.4 billion each compared to 900 million for EU + anglosphere + Switzerland and Norway), but China has $6k disposable income and India has $2.5k compared to $33k in the west so their higher population doesn’t give them more money overall. I agree you’re not going to get a lot of burgers going there, but it’s plenty close for eurangutans to pop over. Oh and Europe has less income inequality than India or China.
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>>2852098
That's the case right now. The saudis are planning around 2030 and beyond and their gamble is on india and china developing a middle class over the next 30 years
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>>2852099
How exactly do you think they’re targeting sirs and bugs in a way that doesn’t also target yuros? Genuine question, I don’t know much about the travel tastes of different cultures except that black people don’t like national parks.
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>>2850726
> Friend of mine was over from the US with his gf, came over for an event, mentioned they were interested in going to Alton Towers
> I live <30 mins away, offered to give them a ride so they don't have to try and navigate their way there
> Picked them up and take them, plus ride to the next part of their UK travel in return for my ticket
> Realise it's been a damn long time since I went

On the one hand it was nice to experience it for the first time in a few years, and with people who'd never been there before (I think he said he'd seen it on Roller Coaster Tycoon, which is fun, my mate visiting somewhere he'd only seen on the game), and seeing their appreciation for stuff I'd basically taken for granted as my "local" park (not that I'd been there in years).
Downside, it didn't seem quite as good as I remembered, and it got urge in me to check out other UK park reviews and a lot were negative... and a fair few made me want to go check out other parks

Also now I'm wondering if the big Universal park will make UK parks step up their game... or roll over and die
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>>2852100
>How exactly do you think they’re targeting sirs and bugs in a way that doesn’t also target yuros?

Because that's already what it is. The thesis they are operating under is being a major player in an emerging tourism economy that doesn't exist fully yet, but is developing rapidly. China India and the entire east have similar enough cultures that its like Americans visiting London.

Their tourism is simultaneously targeted at the ultra rich (which is basically their own globalist community at this point) and then masses of the listed nations in this chart.
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I want so badly for a European style park based entirely on non-IP to be built in the United States

We dont get to have kino like this unless it's somehow tied to scooby doo or some shit
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>H-He's big!
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Recked
https://www.reddit.com/r/WaltDisneyWorld/comments/1pzx50z/indiana_jones_incident_video/
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>>2852109
He saw the lawsuit flash before his eyes and he went for it and for that we salute this CM
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>>2852108
>Hunched over a garbage can to make a vlog
Do they just not feel shame?
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>>2852102
I didn’t ask why, I asked how. How is the targeting happening? What are they doing to favor Egyptians that is going to turn off Europeans?

The countries on your chart are probably just religious tourists (which is why Pakistan is well above the much more populous India). Correct me but it seems to me SA’s efforts are mostly to promote secular tourism.
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>>2852129
India makes sense due to proximity i imagine, getting to the ME is easier/safer for Indians than going to China. China though has Disney parks in Shanghai and Hong Kong. That said Disney also has the paris park so i imagine Euro's would probably just go there instead.
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>>2852129
>What are they doing to favor Egyptians that is going to turn off Europeans?
Probably just being the middle east does enough to turn off a lot of Europeans and Americans. Their PR for the last 100 years has been random explosions on the chyron of CNN and women being banned from driving (which is cool btw)

As for specifically how, I know they are working on a generalized tourist visa for the countries on the persian gulf kinda like the EU passport to make it super easy to visit. Something like it already exists and it's easy for people of a certain income in iraq or egypt to visit, but they are streamlining it further. I forget the name of it, but it's all under the 2030 plan or whatever.

>The countries on your chart are probably just religious tourists
Well no shit, it's still the majority reason for tourism in the region.
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>>2852109
I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for this show. I know it's had incidents before but still.
In my delusions this show one day gets a major revamp but stays an Indiana Jones stunt show.
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>>2852224
>I know it's had incidents before but still.
What incidents were those?

One of my friends in grade school swore he saw a performer in that show get shot to death because they loaded a prop gun with real bullets, lol
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>>2852225
The "fall from the ceiling" intro caused people to fall onto the concrete and someone died in rehearsals doing a tumble
I assumed the falling intro was removed for safety since it wasn't done the last couple times I saw the show but I looked up recent youtube videos and I guess they still do it.
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>>2852224
a nigga straight-up died on this thing, it'll be fine
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>>2852235
At least that wasn't on video because it was rehearsals. I wonder if normies are going to avoid this show now. Not likely I imagine.
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>>2852236
Because a giant bouncy ball got lose for two seconds?
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https://youtu.be/03vOM12OfNg
Daytime POV

It's fucking insane
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>>2852252
Gotta admit I thought this ride would be a dud

That looks awesome
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>>2852253
>Daytime POV
The beginning of the ride looks miles away from the cliff. In just a few seconds you're flying up that thing.

After you see something like that you realize what a Potempkin village the absolute SHANTYTOWN of Disney parks is. Disneytards left in shambles
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>>2851580
>Oh, and it's 100% canon and essential to understanding the events of KH4.
Kek
>>2852109
Oof
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Japan-lads, is it true that Tokyo Disney Resort is leagues better than Walt Disney World in terms of quality, and has cheaper tickets too?
If so, what the fuck?
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>>2852269
Quality of the parks are better, crowds are worse
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>thoosies when the ride doesnt fucking kill them
Most miserable fandom I have ever encountered. Nothing will ever make these people happy. No wonder the thoosies that post here suck the joy out of every thread. They have no joy in their soul, which is ironic given their hobby. Buncha fuckin' jabronies if you ask me
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>>2852271
What the fuck are thoosies
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>>2852272
These faggots
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>>2852270
>crowds are worse
You mean like worse than WDW crowds in terms of quality or in terms of quantity? Cause in terms of quality, WDW crowds kinda stink
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>>2852272
Roller Coaster Enthusiast (derogatory)
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>>2852273
Is the guy who complains about Disney/Universal discussion here one of these miscreants [spoiler]or are you that guy[/spoiler]? Cause he's a total miscreant
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Me? I'm a dark ride enthusiast.
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>>2852276
He's probably busy cooking up the dumbest take any human being has ever had in world history in regards to this coaster and he will be posting it here for our enjoyment within 48 hours
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Normal people seeing a 600ft coaster: Holy shit awesome

Thoosies seeing a 600ft coaster: Wow total gimmick very uninspired layout 2/10 would not ride
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>>2852279
Most are just pissy that it is not in a western European nation that fits their political ideals and they will never get to visit for it
It looks awesome. Maybe not greatest of all time but you have to be a retard to say that looks bad
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>>2852279
The criticism of “where’s the theming?” from some is pathetic
Fact is this new park has got 3 great coasters in it
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>>2852274
Quantity
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>>2852252
Fuck that's insane, wonder if LIM lift hills will become a common thing. It's also really neat using LIMs as a holding brake for a drop
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>>2852279
First day as a thoosie eh? Coaster fans have been like this since coaster fans were a thing
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>>2852274
The crowds being better quality actually makes it worse. The Japanese put up with far more queuing than pretty much anyone. The rope drop queues are insane.

Meanwhile in Paris despite all the hotels getting early entry, very few do rope drop for it. I've managed to get in the first tow of the car park just getting their shortly before.
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>>2852281
Sometimes the coaster is the theming.

>>2852279
The ending is weak but it always is for these kinds of rides so it's no biggie. That said, John Wardley hated flat return-to-station segments so he always tried to include an element right at the end (and it's why in RCT you get penalised in excitement if you have featureless final sections).

That outer bank over the cliff edge is great and the coaster deserves a lot of credit for not taking the easy option of using brakes everywhere to burn off speed.
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GCI really don't get enough credit for their compact high speed woodies. Wickerman is great and this at SFQ looks really fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPKD-80Sek8
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>>2852279
Anyone hating on Falcon’s Flight is either a poorfag or a moralfag.
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>>2852291
They get way too much credit. Every time someone lists Mystic Timbers in the same sentence as Voyage and El Toro I get an ulcer. They should change their name to Good Coasters International because they don’t try for greatness, they’re perfectly content to roll out 7/10 rides year after year.
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>>2852301
>205 minutes
Is that line made exclusively of people who fucked up their planning and won’t be able to come back soon, if not ever?
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>>2852277
https://youtu.be/C37l4pgXXMA
Six Flags Qiddiya has you and fart fetishists covered
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>>2852308
>Qiddiya
>Location: Saudi Arabia
No thanks, not going to the middle east
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>business trip in Dallas right in time for SFOT to close
Fuck my ass.
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>>2852308
>we have a bug’s life at home
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>>2852311
https://youtu.be/SqI_sDDqRtc

Well their other option is
>we have the seas with nemo and friends at home
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I described this before but my dream ride:
Portal 2 themed trackless dark ride.

>Preshow narrated by Cave Johnson, he sends you out to test something
>load station instructional video is like the little aperture science animated videos from the game
>loaded into trackless vehicle controlled by one of several personality cores with unique voice lines throughout the ride for replay value
>Wheatley animatronic intercepts you and hijinks ensue
>you try to escape the facility but Glados blocks the doors and tries to kill you
>relatively simple trick of just using duplicate rooms to mimic using portals in real life
>drop tower segment where you run into turrets and dodge their bullets
>glados overrides and leads you to her
>full sized bigass glados animatronic gets up to your face
>radio playing Still Alive at the exit station

Portal is so ripe for a theme park ride it's a shame we will most likely never get one. But Valve seems like they would be great to collab with and keep quality control.
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>kingdom hearts
>portal
for a general on a travel board you guys dont get out much. the internet is not real life. these are NOT big IPs in the general public and disney/universal are not sinking hundreds of millions in to a ride or area that perpetual online millennials may visit once every couple years
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>>2852395
To be fair Harry Potter is like THE perpetually online millennial IP
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>>2852395
Kingdom Hearts is an easy means to make a big grab bag attraction or using it as connective tissue for an Epic style park.
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>>2852395
Kingdom Hearts is actually fine because Mickey, Goofy, and Donald are VERY big IPs, whatever presents them to people does not matter much
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>>2852398
>>2852452
That anon is right actually. Your niche interest will never become a major theme park attraction, because theme parks have to turn a profit on everything they do. Niche interests dont drive millions of people annually through the gates. The closest you may come is similar to how USJ did the Monster Hunter collaboration, but probably not even then because MH is massive in Japan. Maybe when USO gets the first Fanfest this summer you could see some smaller American IPs get featured, but normie shit like stranger things or hello kitty is much more likely than something like Portal.

>>2852396
Harry Potter made billions of dollars off the movies, books, and merch. It's fully absorbed into the public subconscious in a way that Sora and FF weeaboo shit never will. Get real guys.
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>>2852460
>Mickey & Friends
>Niche interest
You are braindead, that is Disney's main IP that has sold over 70 billion dollars worth of shit (2x HP) and they already have multiple rides based on them.
I do not even care about KH at all, more just annoyed when people try to say shit retarded Coco is somehow a bigger IP than that
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>>2852462
It's not just mickey and friends. Mickey and friends already exist in the parks and the 70 billion dollar figure has nothing to do with KH. KH being added to a disney park would put the emphasis on Sora and the weeb aspects of the franchise because every other element of the IP is just an existing IP. They're not making your special weeb ride about the power of friendship that requires a 200+hour playthrough of 10 games to understand.

Best you will probably get is a character meet and greet with donald and goofy in their KH outfits and a keyblade lanyard.
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>>2852466
Oh look they already did that. I was right. They even sold keyblade disney pins.
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Sorry Universal, we already had Mario in theme parks in the 90s and you can't possibly match this

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>>2852395
It's almost as if I said DREAM ride not one that would be likely or viable as I stated.
Hopefully stuff like FNAF and Minecraft coaster will open up parks to doing more gaming themes.
An entire video game park would be so kino.
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>>2852273
>Bitch and moan about nobody breaking records anymore.
>Somebody actually goes balls out and does it.
>Erm, actually, maybe DON'T do that.
What a bunch of losers. Kingda Ka was much more of a 'gimmick' coaster than this, yet they all lamented its death, did they not? There's nothing wrong with having a coaster that is just big, fast, and terrifying. Ka wasn't my favorite coaster at Great Adventure, but it being there was still rad as hell and worthy of a ride.
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>>2852281
As someone who loves theming, a ride like this doesn't even need it. Look at those fucking views from the top man. I love that they give you plenty of time to soak it in. This is exactly why I like Fujiyama a bit more than Eejanaika. Sometimes the setting of coaster can make the coaster itself even cooler.
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>>2852281
Six Flags corporate is trying to prop up Saudi Flags as their first real from the ground up theme park, its going to be picked at.
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>2025
>Still no Mary Poppins ride
>Still no Sound of Music ride
Wtf Disney
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>>2852503
How is sound of music even supposed to work as a ride?
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>>2852503
Sound of Music was something they got from Fox and it's pretty far down the list of priorities of things to exploit from that merger.
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>>2852504
Fair.
At least have a show or something
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>>2852507
Too white. Couldn't get made today.
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>>2852506
Yes but they gave it a 4K remaster not too long ago for its 60th anniversary
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>>2852508
>Too white
Explain how
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There are so many cool fucking fox ips that Disney is doing jack shit with park wise and that annoys me desu
Imagine a Planet of the Apes thrill ride with animatronic chimp men
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>>2852514
Alien is the one I would really like to see as a theme park attraction. Outside of the one scene on GMR any other attempt at materializing the IP in a park has something go wrong and never gets made.
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niggas got stuck on shockwave today
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>>2852529
Is there anything comfier than getting stuck on a ride? You just hang out and know you're getting a free express pass. You might even get to meet a firefighter if you're lucky
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>>2852503
because theyre not popular IPs to disney unlike The Frog and the Princess or Tron.
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>>2852503
Mary Poppins was happening but got cancelled. Was a teacups ride in a room with Mickey's Railroad projection mapping. I think it could have been a neat kids ride and spread out the crowds a bit more I think it was unworkable.

Tiny capacity and the fact riders couldn't see in advance it was just an advanced teacups ride would have made for a disaster.
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>>2852607
On top of that all the fanfare they gave it at D23 was making people expect a dark ride like the one Tony Baxter pitched decades ago to get hired by Imagineering.
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Will the Middle East become a rivalry of Florida?
Six Flags, Universal, Disneyland, Sea World. Only big problem is they’re going to be a 400 mile drive in the desert from each other. A trip to Riyadh would be good (SF, Universal) but then will barely cater to young kids plus no alcohol. The Abu Dhabi area having a sea world (no rides just a glorified aquarium) and Disneyland will cater to kids and allow alcohol. But barely any big thrills. The 2 countries need work together make a huge high speed rail connecting the areas. It’ll only earn them all more
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>>2852666
> Will the Middle East become a rivalry of Florida?
No. As many anons have said, it’ll just be some vanity project filled with third world tourists. White people will still go to Florida
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfgqsenuwpo

>letting a bunch of school kids eat their lunch on a famously rough launched arrow shuttle looper

The 80s were wild, not least because of the show these kids were on...
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>>2852666
No, they will be targeting Middle Easterns and Indians. At best there might be some Euros who go there instead of Florida (if not going to Paris already) but the overlapping market is minimal, which is why they are are licensing out their brands.
Florida parks targets the western hemisphere overall but of course specifically the Eastern USA. Some will go to the Arab parks just to say they have been to every one or ride an exclusive of their favorite IP or ride the tallest coaster, but those people will be a rarity. Even if was to be cheaper, good luck convincing the average tourist to leave the country to fly to a desert muslim shithole halfway across the globe instead of a 2 hour flight down the same country to the Florida resorts which have the same if not more development
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>>2850731
Disco coasters are always great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmyrUfxOGzU
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At Animal Kingdom rn and on the queue for Dinosaur.
Wait time is 60 minutes and the line is super crowded.
Why the hell is Disney closing this?
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Now on the queue to Navi River Journey.
Trapped between morbidly obese hillbillies and Brazilians
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>>2852683
If only you could be trapped into just regularly obese incel autists
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>>2852677
Disney decision making has been terrible for a long time, we all know it. Seems crazy to spend millions changing Dinosaur to Indiana Jones when it’s a retheme, same track which isn’t a long ride. Maybe crowds more accepting of the ride when it isn’t a big IP but a fun ride. Having a similar experience with it being Indiana Jones crowds might think not worth the wait and a bit dull ride sitting in a car.
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>>2852503
>still no birth of a nation ride
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>>2852666
I was shocked to learn how much yuros love Florida. Some of them fly there and spend all of their vacation lying on the beach. So I don’t think there’s a chance anywhere is upsetting their combo of every theme park chain + reliable weather + beaches all close together.
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>>2852666
>a sea world (no rides just a glorified aquarium)
Basically how it was before the late 90s. You got an observation tower and maybe a monorail, skyride, or peoplemover thing. The sea life & shows were the main draws.

>>2852692
Many of them don't really know much, if anything, about Disneyland, like it will surprise them if you tell them it was first. I don't begrudge them for it (really who cares) but I'm surprised how little clout Disneyland has in the Yuro mind.

But if they have the money for either I think most would choose vacationing at Disney in Florida over EmiratesDisney.
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>>2852692
They should just move cedar point piece by piece to Florida
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>>2852707
I support that as long as it was on another peninsula. No one would miss the old location
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On the Avatar Flight of Passage line and there's guys in wheelchairs, and I'm in the part of the queue that showcases how the avatar thing works and they're looking at it
Life imitated art
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>>2852677
>thing closing
>thing has long wait
>omg why are they closing this? they are so dumb!!
>repeat infinity times
and on new years week too of course.
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>>2852677
They want a new ride but they don't want to expand because that would be more expensive. It's just more cheap cost-cutting.
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I don't have any ill will to Dinosaur fans but I am much happier that it will be Indiana Jones. I'm curious though how hard is it to retrack that ride system? I at least hope it's not a pure reskin and they can alter the layout to fit their needs. I don't want to be thinking "oh this is where X happened" or "oh this was the Y scene" on the ride
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>>2852698
Disneyland is better than any single Florida park, but it’s not better than WDW as a whole. Florida beaches are better than California beaches, Florida is cheaper and it’s also closer to Yurope. So the only reason to choose Disneyland is if you had some special interest in Los Angeles. And even as an American I’m not sure what that would be for the typical yuropean Disney-going family.
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>>2852707
That would be nice but I kind of get why Florida doesn’t have a devoted coaster park, considering Magic Mountain comes in last place in southern California. Best case would be BGT really putting their back into it.
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>>2852724
Not expanding is probably more expensive in the long run. They need to keep their edge. AK is definitely the runt of the litter and needs all the rides it can get.
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My only real interest in Arab Disneyland is what rides/IPs they pick out for this. Which stuff are their royalty interested in having?
Will we see something where some high up royalty or their kid is interested in some insanely niche property like Atlantis or Great Mouse Detective or similar that and make them create a ride for it when they never would otherwise? Could they force Disney to make a new version of Splash Mountain if they wanted it? Would they have visited others and be interested in another park exclusive attraction like Mystic Manor or Imagination? Would they only want normalfag shit like Frozen and Star Wars?
Because the royal families are paying for it so they are pretty much calling all the shots of what they want, so it interests me what direction they go.
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>>2852731
Aladdin
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>>2852731
>>2852732
Arabian nights
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>>2852731
I'm just hopeful all that oil money will give us another Tokyo DisneySea situation where Imagineering basically gets infinite budget to go wild. I'm wary of that first concept pitch tho, that futuristic ""castle"" looked like shit
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>>2852748
Thoosies get a 155mph coaster and Disney autists are posting about removed shrubbery. This is so sad
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>>2852750
>Thoosies get a 155mph coaster
No they do not
See: Spinda Ka delayed a year and a half
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>>2852750
Disney mowing a lawn is 100x more interesting than entire six flags park openings.
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>>2852750
If you're not excited about what number of carts a new coaster would have, why are you even here?
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>>2852750
Imagine how horrifying the intersection between 4chan posters and Disney adults is.

Not that every adult that enjoys Disney is a Disney adult, but every adult that cares about Disney shrubs definitely is.
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>>2852750
shrubs getting removed at Disneyland is way more interesting than a giant coaster that will eventually close due to getting suicide bombed in the middle of a god forsaken desert
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>>2852806
>a giant coaster that will eventually close due to getting suicide bombed in the middle of a god forsaken desert
I must be missing the part where this isn’t interesting.
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>>2852806
>giant coaster that will eventually close due to getting suicide bombed in the middle of a god forsaken desert
Man you keep making it sound better
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfYHIa5z6h4

looks like a good theme park which the arabs bought a recognised park brand to use to get visitors. Doesnt look like a Six Flags at all
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>>2852731
its being made independently by the same family that owns all of Yas Island and the arab disneyworld will be on Yas Island as well. There isnt much space left, unless they make more land. Im expecting it to be a disneyland-lite. Small, possibly completely indoors as well.
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>>2852827
>Doesnt look like a Six Flags at all
And that's a good thing. Six Flags needs a brand overhaul.
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>>2852745
The only things we really know is it will be largely indoors, so a lot of Mexico Pavilion like setups. The castle and other art is basically very broad concept art because nothing has been decided yet, so I would not take that castle as the literal version they will build
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>>2852830
As much as I hate normiefag shit, the irony of building a Frozen land in the desert is peak ironing.
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So it happened AGAIN
https://www.tmz.com/2026/01/03/disney-world-possible-suicide-dead-body-found/
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>>2852882
Happiest Place On Earth*
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>>2852882
>Killing yourself in a fucking parking garage.
What a fucking sadsack, God damn.
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>>2850743
>ywn never flip upside down looking at glow in the dark roadsigns while dude looks like a lady plays ever again
feelsbadman.jpg
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>check the prices of Disneyland Paris after the Frozen expansion opens

lols, 35% price hike across the board. Suspect the price will come down again later through the year though, they're just catching everyone timing their bookings for the expansion at the moment.
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>>2851293
>Smugglers Run is Mission Space but good
this should be true but for me wasn't. once the novelty wears off the ride is a mess. the fake roles in mission space work much better it turns out because people are retards and/or children and ruin the "game" aspect of it. At least with mission space there is the thrill of drinking a bunch in world showcase and then testing your stomach
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>>2852301
I was there on nye one year, I think like 2016. It sucked balls and we bailed to go to HS which was comparatively dead. Watched the starwars nighttime show which was actually pretty great instead of illuminations
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>>2852923
Smugglers Run simply shouldn't have made it past the concept stage, the flaws it has were pretty much exactly what everyone expected them to be. Apparently the new mission improves things but it's still just a bad concept.

>have never been a pilot after 6+ rides
>looked like I would be the pilot last time I rode it
>two guys forced their way in front of me and got the pilot roles

Cunts.

>>2852926
I did Epcot New Years once, it was shit, the show was exactly the same but they played auld langs syne afterwards. Was unbelievably packed. Did Universal a couple of years later and they put on a concert, had a special fireworks show on for it and it was just generally awesome.
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>>2852935
>filename
Ventus?
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>>2852928
Both times I rode it two children were the pilots
and they were shitty pilots both times
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>>2852940
>Disneyland Florida
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>>2852939
I only ever rode it once and the pilots were constantly just bouncing off of the edge boundaries it sucked
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>>2852827
>using the shittiest american park chain, which has gone bankrupt before and is headed there again, which is synonymous with poor people, to get visitors
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>>2852954
>which has gone bankrupt before and is headed there again
Cedar Fair was headed the same way before the merger, so was Busch before private investors got them.
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>>2852955
Yes and those are all poor people parks. Busch at least makes money, though it's through private equity rape.
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>>2852963
>His parents buy his Disney AP
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>>2852967
Don’t have Disney AP. Once every few years is good enough for me.
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>>2852495
no one took Formula Rossa seriously because of the windshield. why would FF be any different
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Falcon's Flight hate is just thinly veiled Saudi Arabia / Muslim hate, right? The thoosie community can't go from shitting their pants over Tormenta to being indifferent to Falcon's Flight just off of the coasters themselves.
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Holy shit I just found out that Super Enthused is married to the Expedition Theme Park guy after making the connection of recognizing his voice after watching one of his videos
I thought Sam was just some random bloke who didn't really appear to be that much interested in theme parks. at least not as much as her
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>>2853006
Yeah I recognized his voice instantly when I heard him in one of her videos. I don't usually watch vloggers but I like Jackie. And Expedition Theme Park is a really good channel. The things that annoy me about those kinds of videos sometimes aren't in his.
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>>2852317
>>2852317
Well at least we have a portal board game and physical pinball machine
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>https://singleriders.us/
>wait, they’re all troons?
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>>2853219
Winning move is to choose a fat girl with a cute face then walk her ass around theme parks like a husky doing the iditarod in the Florida heat until she's normal sized.
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>>2853221
This but without the second part
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>>2853219
80% are about what you'd expect, 19% are clearly people looking for a free holiday.

Seems like a place to pick up cakes and cougars though.
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Lion King land supposedly been accidentally confirmed for 2028 in Paris. Given the progress on it already and the so-so theming that seems a bit long but this is Disney...

Also very strong rumours of a E-ticket for the castle park seems likely it'd be the multi-launch star wars one but would be nice for them to get an original E-ticket dark ride.
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>>2851293
Mission space is good tho.
Only real centrifuge ride that isn't a shitty carnival box.
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>>2851293
Smugglers Run is only fun with your friends/family. I think the queue is probably the best part of the ride. Star Tours is superior in every way in my opinion (might be because I'm a boomer).

DHS is such wasted potential. The vintage Hollywood theme is so great but they've all but abandoned it for endless slop. The new courtyard update is actually what I'm most looking forward too because it's the first time they've done anything with the "making movies" theme since Eisner.
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>>2853342
I just wish they could quicken the loading with Star Tours, the whole "checking everyone's belts" is such a pain. I bet it's those fucking kids who sat on their belt on Tower of Terror that caused it.
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>>2853219
how likely is it to get a gf that is also into theme parks or at the very least isn't turned off by the fact that I'm into theme parks
(and isn't fat)
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>>2853342
I'm prone to motion sickness and vertigo normally but took bonine during my WDW vacation
oddly the only ride in all the parks that gave me motion sickness was Star Tours so it had a negative impression on me even though on paper I would like it
But tbf as a single rider, I was put first in line to one of the gates and got the far back corner seat which I believe is the worst seat for motion sickness
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>>2853387
Depends if you live in the LA/Orlando area or not
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>>2853342
>I think the queue is probably the best part of the ride
Iirc the queue is just a view of the ship + random quips over the intercom
Apart from the first part it's not that special desu
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>>2853457
NTA but I think he's talking about the Falcon interior area with the chessboard.
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>>2853387
Lots of girls love Disney. And Harry Potter as well so Universal is easy too. What’s rare are thoosie girls who aren’t ugly. I imagine finding a girl who’d really enjoy a trip to, say, Knoebels, is quite hard.
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Thoughts on Theme park Youtubers like Poseidon Entertainment, Hey Brickey,that talk about the parks in a broader design sense?
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>>2853557
>Poseidon Entertainment
He has some really interesting videos, but he's also a woke faggot and he annoys me. And he seems to smug and superior sometimes.
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>at a park
>family is eating and I'm not hungry so run off to do a coaster
>see an obviously mentally retarded guy in his forties dressed in pokemon clothes in line ahead of me by himself
>coaster is 2 seats across
>have a lot of experience with the mentally challenged, figure I can save everyone time by politely asking if we can ride together
>say "Hey man do you mind if I ride next to you?"
>retard spazzes out and shouts NO NO NO NO NO GET AWAY FROM MEEEEE at the top of his lungs like I just asked him to smoke crystal meth out of a dog's asshole.
>Say "Okie dokie have a great day" and give the people around me in line the "Fuck is this nigga's problem?" face
>he continues ranting to himself and gives me death glares as he boards the ride
>see him get right back in line after he gets off

Please give me one good reason we dont shoot people like this? His elderly parents are cool with their little atomic retard bomb walking around public like that?
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>at a park
>get in line for a coaster
>the guy behind me asks if we could ride together
>he's completely alone too
>wtf why
>holy shit is he a fag trying to hit on me?
>tell him to fuck off because i dont want to get monkeypox
>keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't try to rape me or whatever it is that fags do
>get in line after the ride is over so i can ride again but without a homosexual gaying up my coaster experience
Thank god I never saw him again.
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>>2853592
Cute fanfic but I just want you to know if there wasn't a young asian couple separating us and you had the correct number of chromosomes I would have rearranged your entire genome. I hope whatever disease you have kills you.
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>at a park with my hot gf
>in line for a coaster
>see the king of tards in front of us, my god he even has pokemon clothes
>chuckle internally but keep it to myself, don't want to invoke tard rage
>make it to the front
>some school shooter looking dude behind us asks the tard if they can ride together
>despite there being a perfectly normal group of three a few cars over
>dis_gon_b_gud.gif
>tard rage intensifies
>fucker literally says "okie dokie" in response lmao
>looks at us as if he himself didn't make the decision to engage a feral tard
>stuck between these utter imbeciles for the ride, luckily the ride itself was kino
>get off, the tard gets back in line while the creep angrily storms off
>laugh about the whole thing with gf
Why does anyone go to a theme park alone?
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>be me
>be posting on 4chan
>read some anons story
>immediately write a homosexual retard fanfic and an additional fanfic where I'm dating an asian teenager
>chortle to myself as Dorito crumbs cascade off my obese stomach and land between the keys on my keyboard
>I'm the normal one
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What's wrong anon you haven't touched your Donkey Kong Piss Bottle yet
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>>2853557
I only watch themeparknerd, face ripped off, andrew platt and airtime thrills.

just tell me what's good and what's bad, rank some shit, not overanalyze every goddamn thing
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>>2853557
I'm full autist on theme park design so I find a lot of their videos interesting. Brickey is very hit or miss tho, he can have good design insights but can go way too overboard on the "omg the magic is real I cry when I think about our lord and savior Walt Disney" shtick which gets grating after a while.
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I enjoy the Disney park documentaries but they're too much promotional and for newer things, they're completely unable to show anything that isn't super amazing and perfect.

I want to see the Disney Ninjas in action, I want to see how they deal with maintenance on 30 year old simulators where the original company doesn't exist any more (admittedly that's partially because my dad worked for Redifusion and partially because I want to see Americans try to pronounce Thales). I want more general workings and them dealing with every day shit. But nope, can't risk "breaking the magic"
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>>2853671
Yeah, I disagree with his 'escapism' angle of the parks, I prefer it to influence the real world in a positive way ie: Apricot.
But that's to keep the disney adult consoomers attention so I can overlook that.
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>>2853676
I really enjoyed The Imagineering Story, it was informative and did surprisingly go into the failures of EuroDisney and California Adventure more than I anticipated. Of course that is then followed by nothing but ads and patting themselves on the back once Bob Iger shows up, it's very obvious the final episode is just one big fluffpiece. I never even bothered to watch the series that came after, which was nothing but that.
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>>2853780
Even when it's more critical it feels like it's Iger bigging himself up compared to Eisner. Eisner did a lot of shit at the end of his tenure but most of it was forced on him by Disney being in the shitter financially and him scrambling to get costs down and get more income.
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>>2853845
>Figment flossing
Oh dear
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Mellors Group have confirmed purchase of Lightwater Valley and said they're going to pump some money into it and build some new rides. Here's hoping for Ultimate 2

They're the owners of Fantasy Island which is far better of a park/funfair than Skegness deserves. Helps they got a bunch of advanced rides from a closed dubai park really cheap, only robo-coaster-flying-theatre in the UK (possibly Europe?)
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Busch Gardens Tampa is in rough shape

>Cheetah hunt, Shiekra, Falcons Fury all closed
>Many of the quick service food options are shuttered
>50% of the animal exhibits empty and removed
>Skeleton crew staff that is underpaid and clearly dont give a fuck
>One train operating on most coasters
>Skyride costs 5$/person now despite being free for decades
>Park guests are six flags tier

Hopefully their private equity firm owners decide to sell the park to someone who actually gives a shit because there was a line at customer service asking for refunds when I walked out of the park. I would have asked for one myself but my ticket was free.

They are trying to spruce up the animal exhibits they do have so Blackfish 2.0 doesnt happen, at least.
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>>2853845
>Mickey and Goofy running around and committing genocidal murder while dabbing and hitting the griddy
Fortnite is gay but that would be based?
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>>2853907
Don't forget the whole Iron Gwazi metal detector thing. They're also planning to discontinue the shuttles from Orlando.
I honestly feel pretty lucky that I went in September even though I missed Kumba (though there were still plenty of problems then)
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>>2853907
I wonder how much of it is leadership at the park level
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>>2853919
There's Definitely a leadership aspect. Look at the bbq place getting shut down for health violations.

Roaches and rats could just be bad luck but workers going elbow deep mixing coleslaw? That's management not doing their job and upper management not doing their job overseeing them.
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>>2853907
Now that Six Flags America is closed, BGT is the worst large park in America.
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>>2853939
Depends if you count Mt Olympus as a large park or not
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>>2853926
Well isn't the general manager still the guy from Magic Mountain?
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>>2853845
They do let them race in that shitty car racing game if that is anything
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>>2854003
Well yeah, kart racers are the safest and most inoffensive type of video game Disney can cram their characters into. Nobody would ever raise a fuss about Mickey throwing Tron discs and cartoon bombs like they would if they let Mickey shoot people with realistic looking guns.
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>Disney (DIS) CEO Bob Iger met with Chinese Vice Premier Ding Xuexiang in Beijing on Friday and said the entertainment conglomerate will continue to expand its investment in China.
>Disney (DIS) opened Shanghai Disneyland in 2016, and Iger's visit to China may fuel speculation that the company could be weighing opening another theme park in the country.
https://seekingalpha.com/news/4537950-bob-iger-disney-will-continue-to-expand-its-investment-in-china
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Anyone else played this? Its pretty neat :)
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>>2854067
A third location in China doesn't make sense, especially given the Shanghai resort could easily expand with a second gate.

Third gate at California looks set to be confirmed next D23, the plans they showed off before made it seem like it was getting its own entrance. Wish they'd sort out the shitshow that's parking there though.
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You know what sucks, as much as I hate corporate acquisitions and takeovers? Universal didn't even try buying WB. They did a flimsy bid and now Paramount's trying to do a hostile take over of WB and the only other option is fucking Netflix.
I just wanted Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbera in USF man
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>>2854074
>the year is 2060
>Universal are still using this ride system
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Six Flags has (as of yesterday) filed a trademark for the name “Phantom Spire”
It is being highly presumed this is the name for the extreme spinner at Great Adventure
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>>2854143
Close enough, welcome back Drachen Spire
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>>2854079
If I had a nickel for every time elements of a defunct ride ended up being cloned, I'd have a very overused phrase.
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>>2854032
make it in planet coaster
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>>2854143
>the extreme spinner at Great Adventure
Do people still think this is going to be 400' tall?
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>>2854067
With how retarded "news" outlets are with theme park stuff it's likely just another gate. Probably getting a ton of gibs from daddy Xi
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>>2854151
It is mostly copium over a record holder being taken down and replaced with an inferior coaster as the park is downgraded to mid to low tier in importance
I will be surprised if this is over 300 ft. 250-300 sounds like what it will be
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>>2854160
I'm thinking they'll be lucky to break 150'
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are the posted wait times at knotts berry farm as useless as the ones in legacy six flags parks? i'm going to knotts for the first time next week
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>>2854073
It does same theme park and not new resort, so it very much could be a second Shanghai park. China is the only country whose resorts do not have at least two parks so a second park, while investing in China right now is braindead, is logical
>Third gate at California looks set to be confirmed next D23
I am not sure it will be, they are still a decade out from it opening and need to get the parking/infrastructure improvements going first before they can go for this. I am thinking d23 2028
There are also people who think it will be an extension of disneyland or dca with some downtown disney shops, which would imo be a very bad move if you have enough room to make a full third gate
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>>2854207
>have enough room to make a full third gate
There's also OC vibe that the city will benefit from the resort area.
A great video about this.
https://youtu.be/rQLacME5wpA?si=94IGW45ZOLDOsR4j
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>>2854197
Haven't been since this summer, but I remember their posted wait times were okay, give or take 10 minutes. But Ghost Rider will definitely be the longest.
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Brit going to Orlando in April. Staying in the cheapest Universal hotel, theres 5 of us.
the freestyle cups at the parks - do the park restaurants have those machines? I was thinking of buying two cups to cover the 5 of us, saves wasting money on separate drinks in restaurants.

also any other advice appreciated. its been 15 yrs since I last went
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>>2854256
Some quick service places have it, sit down restaurants don't.

General advice: remember to stop for drinks a lot, refrigerated drinking fountains seem a lot rarer now but if you don't want to buy a drink, you can ask for some ice water. People in my party last time complained I kept getting drinks, then on one day they got dehydrated and were miserable, then they shut up about it. Starbucks refreshas are a weirdly good value drink compared to sodas, the large ones are buckets and they deal with the thirst better than soda.

If you're going with someone who's not good with coasters, Hiccups dragon riders is a good test for how they can deal with multi-launch rides, Cosmic Rewind and Hagrids are both more intense but not by that much. I consider Expedition Everest more intense than both of those and I'd say The Mummy is also pretty comparable (although it's not as fast, has similar levels of weightlessness)

Quick Service at all parks is far better than it used to be (but Universal still have a bunch of mediocre places that haven't really overhauled their menus), the seasonal specials at Disney are often fun .

RotR and Smugglers Run both have massively variable queue times that go up and down throughout the day. If the park is quiet but those have massive queues, they'll probably go down during the day (but may spike again if there's downtime).

so-so rides that get insane queues are good candidates for rope drops (even if they're second rides). 7 Dwarves and Slinky will make you feel more positive about it if you've waited < 30 mins.

You must plan for Disney, plan which parks on which day (Magic Kingdom on a weekend is an absolute no) and if you want a sit down restaurant you must book now, the popular ones may already be fully booked. You can cancel so long as you cancel a day in advance so don't feel pressured.
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>>2854256
oi bruv you got a rollercoastah loisence
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>>2854256
Also, make sure everyone is on the app and has WhatsApp, even without roaming there's comprehensive wifi. As everyone will have memory maker, the magic bands are absolutely worth it (the premium ones are a bit gimmicky but if you want a nice design and varying levels of light shows they may be worth it) if you don't want to spend the money, there are magic band spoof apps but I've no idea how effective they are and if they trigger the on ride syncing.

Make sure you download all the photos and videos as soon as you get home. I forgot to download a flash mountain moment behind me on test track and lost it forever...
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>>2854215
Maybe I am retarded (since east coast theme parks are my scene) but I thought the plan discussed first was going to be building off the parking area where Disneyland Hotel is, and the debate was going to be if that was going to be expansions to Disneyland & California Adventure vs being a full separate third gate and be worked on when the parking and entrance redevelopment completes
Toy Story parking would obviously be a 3rd (4th?) gate if they develop it.
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>>2854197
They used to be less accurate but ever since they installed the new screens at the ride entrances the times have been fairly accurate, at least for ~30min waits.
>>2854207
>There are also people who think it will be an extension of disneyland or dca
This is what all documents plan for it to be, and the only way to do it without complicating access between the hotels and the original parks. If a 3rd gate does get built it'll probably be in the Toy Story lot
>>2854256
>>2854267
>refrigerated drinking fountains seem a lot rarer now but if you don't want to buy a drink, you can ask for some ice water.
The Freestyle machines at Universal give you water and ice for free, I don't think I've ever used a traditional drinking fountain during any of my trips there.
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>>2854298
There was one set of plans around D23 that suspiciously looked like an entrance plaza for Potential third gate. . Splitting it in two with themed bridges to it in both parks has always struck me as awkward, massively increasing the amount of walking and introducing choke points. It's a very small space for a third gate though (about the size of DCA minus the water), would be an extremely dense park
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>>2854070
I had no idea this existed, might try emulating it on my 'eck this weekend
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>>2854306
its pretty fun, i found it in a cex so picked it up. its kinda like a puzzle platformer with each room having a different ghost you need to beat. the atmosphere and animation is better than the gameplay.
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>>2854288
Both are possible and were in the original Disneyland Forward plans. The whole reason for forward was for zoning permission. But the first thing they are working on is parking (and Coco). The expansion plots may also need some time and planning since the hotels need to be designed around it (and the parking situation as well).
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Wonder what they'd theme a third California park to. Would they just do an Epic Universe/Adventure World and say it's just a collection of super themed lands? Not sure it has the space for that. Marvel land's time has passed.

Fantasy Springs seems like it'd work but the plans showed a Black Panther land and I don't think they'll have dropped that. Maybe they could do a land that is to Adventureland what Fantasy Springs is to Fantasyland. Focus on action, hidden kingdoms, exotic locales, secret hideouts etc. Good excuse to fit in a couple of "Family+" coasters like Cosmic Rewind and Expedition Everest and a white knuckle coaster to make up for no RnRC
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Actual happening
Trademarks have been filed for a brand called Enchanted Parks with a specific park name or location attached. They only have ones filed for some of the small parks in the chain. These parks are likely either being sold off or split from the current Six Flags
They include the following
>Michigan's Adventure
>Six Flags St Louis
>Schlitterbahn Waterpark Galveston
>Great Escape (seemingly, as they have one for their lodge)
>Worlds of Fun (seemingly, as they have one for Oceans of Fun)
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>>2854338
Who's going to buy them? Can't imagine Merlin will as Legoland parks are pretty much the only thing keeping them in business.
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>>2854338
>Worlds of Fun (seemingly, as they have one for Oceans of Fun)
It would have to be a package deal. They already adjoin each other and share a water ride (last time I was there, a shoot the rapids ride), plus they share maintenance, warehousing, and administrative space.

Kind of thought this was a likely outcome, although I'm surprised the list is that short. Where's Water Safari?
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>>2854341
>Where's Water Safari
Adirondack area.
This also is the park that gives away the whole scheme
Water Safari (also known as Enchanted Forest Water Safari) is a small, mostly water park based amusement park in New York, never associated with Six Flags. It and its associated lodging (including Water’s Edge Inn) were sold to Innovative Attraction Management in 2024. They currently own this park and Diggerland USA in New Jersey
It seems what is happening is they are gearing up to buy some or all of these parks, and make a new company branding called Enchanted Parks
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2024/03/enchanted-forest-water-safari-gets-new-florida-based-owner.html
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/09/insider/riding-the-roller-coaster-beat.html

archive link:
https://archive.ph/wqUmJ

Interview with the guy who writes about rollercoasters for the nyt
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>>2854343
I wonder if the original Premier Parks (that bought Six Flags in the late 90s) is involved or is trying to be. If Gary Story is in the picture it's doa
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What’s the best time of year to go to Los Angeles in 2026? I can take a week off with both weekends. I want to do the big 5 - Disneyland, DCA, USH, Knott’s and Magic Mountain.
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>>2854160
Why didn’t they kill Ka again? Did they actually think it lost more money than it made?
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>>2854369
Don't go before May 21st, DL has a special ticket deal going on before which means more crowds (and Hollywood Drift likely won't be open in the earlier months anyways). DL crowds are mostly passholders so try to go on days when the lower passes are blocked out. For the other parks, any weekday that isn't summer or Christmas should be fine crowd-wise.
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>>2854370
I'm surprised they didn't at least TT2 it, would have been cheaper than installing a brand new tower coaster
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>>2854371
There's also another deal from May 22nd until September 7th but it only applies to kids' tickets.
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>>2854370
My instinct is that the company is so hard up to save money immediately they had to do a hail mary like removing KK and all the others from Great Adventure. If TT2 had panned out on time, I think there's a chance KK would have gotten the conversion. But the timeline didn't work out in its favor and a decision had to be made, and they decided KK and some other stuff needed to go immediately - again, probably to free up money immediately.

>>2854375
>would have been cheaper than installing a brand new tower coaster
You've got a 20+ year old track and structure you're putting new ride money into it for the conversion. That's the drawback. I still think if TT2 had panned out earlier, KK would have gotten KK2'd.
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>>2854371
Thanks, good to know. I’ll wait for Hollywood Drift to open. If I do a park on a Sunday or Saturday, which is the best to put there?
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>>2854393
If that were the case, isn’t demolishing it more costly than leaving it standing and not operating it? And of course you can reverse closing it but not demolishing it.
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>>2854370
The answer is maintenance cost. It cost over 1 million every year just to maintenance the thing, I have heard it said it was $2 per rider over its lifespan. It also needed a $5 million refurbishment due to damage from Zumanjaro for New Jersey inspectors to approve it operating again for 2025 onward. They needed to trim costs anywhere so that was going to be the one they were cutting.
I think the fatal flaw here was suits only know excel numbers and not have any social skills to know what parkgoers think. They thought it would be like removing Escape from Krypton at Magic Mountain where it was not the most popular and pass by with little issue. They did not take into account that even if the even if people did not ride it, people would know of the park because of it or come due to its presence. They did not account it was the icon of the park and a regional icon, and the pure numbers (because it was an intense ride so people chicken out) did not correlate with appreciation of it existing.
So surprise, they shoot themselves in the foot because everyone is mad at them for the heavy ride removals and it looks like they are demolishing the park to gp, so attendance collapses outside Fright Fest even with a new coaster debuting and made Six Flags' financial standing worse. Some thing the bad financial reports and executive/board purge is squarely on Great Adventure, and for this reason
That is going to be a huge hole they have to dig themselves out of, if they can
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>>2854398
Once you make the decision to tear down a ride, you immediately discontinue insurance on it. You don't need another state inspection. You don't need to put man-hours into maintaining it. All of the maintenance programming for it stops. The park's own operational bureaucracy for that ride stops. The park doesn't have to spend money keeping the pilot light on so to speak.

To idle it long-term still keeps it as a taxable asset on the books, and some degree of work and maintenance will need to be done on it periodically. And there are losses associated with security (unused places tend to be pilfered of equipment/vandalized even when supposedly locked up tight). Given how quick and sweeping the decision was it's clear in my mind they didn't even have the luxury of idling those rides, they needed to change their short and long term cash flow immediately - so they tore down a bunch of stuff that would otherwise just be a money loser and liability to the park if left it SBNO.

Plus with removal, you at least get some scrap value that could exceed the cost of the demo+haul-away itself.
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>>2854403
>so attendance collapses outside Fright Fest even with a new coaster debuting
The timing couldn't have been worse
Demolish KK and then Flash opens and it to 99% of park visitors and the larger public, it looks like the park said "Hey sorry about the amazing coaster you loved, have this piece of shit instead."

That's why the decision to close so much so rapidly is befuddling. It implies to me a very desperate cash situation. Obviously they knew they'd take a big hit at the gate - did they underestimate that? They might have, but I think they knew what would really play out.

Imo they were just up against some financial wall and had to do anything to get out of whatever situation they were in, may as well do it all in one fell swoop instead of death by a thousand cuts. At least that gives you the chance to look like you're building back in the future - assuming you survive the present.
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>>2854397
Disneyland and DCA by far. Because of blockout dates and variable pricing, weekdays and weekends are much closer in crowd levels than they are for other parks.
In fact, Sundays and Fridays are actually the least crowded days of the week there on average.
https://queue-times.com/parks/16/stats
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>>2854406
>Demolish KK and then Flash opens and it to 99% of park visitors and the larger public, it looks like the park said "Hey sorry about the amazing coaster you loved, have this piece of shit instead."
It went so far that news reported it as the replacement at first. They took as bad a PR angle towards the removal as they possibly could and killed two seasons of the park. And Flash is not even bad to people, a mid lineup, but coming at a very bad timing.
It was obviously due to financials to cut the debt leading to the park closures/sell-offs they are doing now, but I do not get the purpose if they are investing that much in a replacement anyhow. Maybe all 8 or so rides they removed at once was to cut it off now and get to the low point, but I do not think they recognized how bad attendance would fall. With nothing for 2026 and Toro closed for an extended period there is very little reason to go
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>>2854403
Another big thing is that Ka was one of the few remaining things SFGAdv has over Hersheypark. Now that list is pretty much just Toro, which I’m not sure even draws crowds.
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>>2854404
Was no one interested in buying it?
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>>2854432
It would take a while to get that kind of a sale facilitated and then organized and executed, disassembling a coaster with the intent to run it again is way more time consuming and expensive than cutting it up with a plasma torch - if you could find a park interested in buying a 20 year old extreme ride that has been run hard and isn't sold anymore.
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>>2854267
>>2854280
>>2854298
thanks for the advice
>>2854273
no. dont tell mickey
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Honestly Six Flags deserves everything that happens to them. They’ve led with laziness and no creativity for years. While Disney, Universal and even Busch were dreaming up experiences you can’t find anywhere else, Six Flags was copypasting Batman and Superman as many times as they could. And this is why they had to give away annual attendance and parking basically for free last year. People aren’t willing to pay them money to visit. Being poor is not a good way to attract good leadership, so they get the leaders they can afford, and those leaders do things like blow up Kingda Ka.
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>>2854454
This but Merlin I hope their similar tactic to copy/paste legoland everywhere makes them go bust. All for some bullshit ‘most visited attractions combined’ award they made up
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>>2854475
The frustrating thing is Merlin are doing good things at their parks, they're just doing them slowly.

Nemesis reborn was done well, Toxicator was done in a fun way and the Haunted House getting its guns removed and having a story added was great. Hyperia is a great showpiece coaster. Jumanji is another fun unique coaster that is probably the best you could hope for in order to ease people onto their first inverted coaster and the Minecraft coaster should be good if they learn the lessons from the Uncharted coaster (if you're going to do screens, at least integrate them well).

The trouble is, they should be doing tick-tock ride building instead of a new ride every 4+ years.
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>>2854431
GP does not care about Toro, it is a big deal in thoosie circles but general public just sees a typical wooden coaster that every park in the region has.
It has a better woodie (though Hershey has multiple) but that is just about it, somehow it is way behind on every single metric besides animal park that a full park redo would be needed to match up. Extreme height additions is pretty much the only thing it can do Hershey cannot
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>>2854488
>nemesis reborn
>curse of Alton manor
>toxicator
Are all not new rides. You visit the park 20 yrs ago those rides were there. They also refurbed the sky ride and hex which is good but a needed retrack and slight retheme is below par. Meanwhile how many have they removed in 20 yrs without a replacement. You can argue all these refurbs are expensive but the costs have reached this much because of lack of investment and adequate service/maintenance

Hyperia is great but short and replaced a log flume that people liked, making the park less for families
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Tampa-fags and central florida visitors, you owe it to yourselves to go to Zoo Tampa. Probably the most well developed and soulful tourist attraction I've done recently. The whole place feels cared for and well maintained. Blows the doors off the BGT Zoo. The animals are all in great moods because of how spacious and intelligently designed their enclosures are. It's also very affordable and nothing about it felt excessively price gougy. Even the beers were reasonably price and no different from a bar downtown

>hey that's not a theme park

It has a (childrens) rollercoaster, merry go round, and log flume. Shut the fuck up nerd
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>>2854403
The really baffling thing is them not announcing it was Ka's final season. They could have at least made a bunch of money up-front from people wanting one last ride to help tide them over this year when nobody shows up. Someone like me who lives nearby but hasn't visited the park in years would absolutely turn up for a day or even two if it was made clear a legendary coaster would be closing. Instead, those retards shut the thing down without a word, losing out on toms of money, and now there's no reason for me to go to their park over other options in the area.
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>>2854454
>and those leaders do things like blow up Kingda Ka.
>>2854548
>Instead, those retards shut the thing down without a word
You know what? I'm glad they demolished Kingda Ka
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>>2854328
It is almost definitely going to be just IP worlds, that is all they are into now, lands based on the IPs with 1/2 rides
I saw someone try to say Westcot would come back but that is copium, that does not give them the IP integration. It is just going to be various IP worlds
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>>2854551
>I'm glad they demolished Kingda Ka
I get to go a bunch this year with basically no one in the park so kino
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>>2854527
Based Zootampa appreciator.
It's in a sus part of town but no worse than Busch Gardens in that regard.
While I'm comparing it to BGT, it's obviously more of a zoo than a thoosie park but that means it's better if you're not a thoosie sperg.
I've gone there a handful of times since I was a kid. Took my handicap mom there somewhat recently. Glad to see they are pumping money into this place. Sadly the aquarium/reptile section was under construction last I was there but I want to go back when it's done.
My only real complaint is the new sting ray pond. It's nicer than the grimey old one they removed but it's way deeper now. I feel like it's gotta be designed that way to force guests to buy shrimp in order to feel a ray cause it kinda felt impossible to touch them otherwise. Especially my mom in a wheelchair who can't reach very far.
Also I'm not sure about the affordable part as far as food is concerned, I somehow unintentionally spent over $70 on lunch for the two of us. I guess pay attention to what you grab.
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>>2854767
They announced a 125 million dollar expansion that will expand the park to the Hillsborough river and dramatically grow its footprint. They see the opportunity to become one of the premier zoos in the nation and are swinging for the fences

Just need BGT and Mosi to get their shit together and Tampa is back, baby

https://www.fox13news.com/news/zootampa-announces-multi-year-expansion-plan

In regards to food prices, I say its reasonably priced by means of contrast with Disney and Universal. The beers were $8, but at Dis/Uni a mere can will run you $12. It's slightly more expensive than eating outside the park, but not excessive and in-your-face ripping you off like other tourist attractions in florida.
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>>2854785
>mosi
I only went once in the late 2000s as a kid for a friend's birthday party. I assume it's been a shell of it's former self for a very long time since I never hear anything about it. Have you been recently?
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>>2854788
I went like 2 years ago. It's an absolute shell of itself. The actual museum part is abandoned. They moved everything over to what used to be the children's area and a much smaller museum has been crammed into that space. It has maybe 1/4th what the old Museum used to have.

Pic related. The actual museum is on the right and completely abandoned. The exhibits are still there but to save money they closed it all and moved over to the small crescent building. You can see the exhibits just sitting there untouched. It's very depressing.

When I went the Imax theater was non-operating, but apparently they have that open now. There's been a few attempts at revitalizing it and getting the whole thing back open but nothing has happened yet. They were even considering moving to downtown tampa.

People have no idea how goated it used to be. I would spend an hour in the astronomy area launching marbles onto the orbital mechanics simulator.
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>>2854802
Nevermind, apparently the county voted in October to turn the old museum part into a sports entertainment complex. RIP MOSI, you were too pure for this world.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2025/10/25/tampa-mosi-sports-complex-field-house-development/
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Planning permission for Universal UK activates today so proper building work starts now. Imagine not a lot will happen visibly in 2026 other than a bunch of digging but I imagine the site will effectively have 24/7 monitoring for manufacturers turning up.
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>>2854519
Why is that, the Harrisburg airport?
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>>2854991
That's far away from Hersheypark
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Florida parks are absolute flooded with Brazilians at the moment
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>>2854991
It is because Penn State has a regional hospital in Hershey with a helipad. There is also a small aircraft airport 7 miles away.
Because of that they need FAA and township approval for anything over 200 ft. They got it for Candymonium but had to make it under 220 feet, and cannot really go beyond that even if township might technically allow up to 350 ft. They apparently have had rejections before for height.
So a giga is out of a question, let alone something Ka sized, and why it was such a good counter to Hershey. GA is the only park in the northeast with the resources and clearance to build something that high. So demolishing it, let alone not making a proper giga coaster yet, is very questionable decision making when your main competition cannot match up.
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>>2855074
Sounds mostly made up–a helipad almost 2 miles away and an airport 7 miles away aren't going to cause the FAA any consternation; structures 200' or over require a navigational beacon on the top but not necessarily FAA approval; that leaves local rules to be the limiting factor, if such ordinances really even exist. As a matter of public record, they should be able to be found or at least referenced online.

The tallest ride in the park is the Kissing Tower at 330 feet. It can be presumed that another ride of at least that height can go in there in the future.
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>>2855085
>>2855079
It deals with the scheduled flight patterns and where they start to descent. This is not made up either, they very openly had to get FAA approval for Candymonium to go over 200 ft.
https://www.pennlive.com/life/2018/09/hersheypark_new_roller_coaster.html
>The tallest ride in the park is the Kissing Tower at 330 feet.
Kissing Tower was 70s so this was built before any of these restrictions. As mentioned they theoretically could get up to 350 feet if they got approval under township guidelines with FAA approval, but they likely would not be able to build Kissing Tower now.
Question you should ask, if height was not an issue why would they have not made a giga vs making two somewhat similar hypers?
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>>2855097
That link just says the park sought and was granted approval to build by the FAA, with apparently no trouble. The real reason FAA approval is needed for construction is to keep an index of high points for pilots. And with the taller Kissing Tower there, what argument could they really make for saying no?

>but they likely would not be able to build Kissing Tower now.
I disagree. They've already got a ride that tall and unless there's pressure from the public, politicians and planners usually won't say no to something that already exists. The park already has a 330 foot ride, but planners would deny them 310 foot ride? There would have to be external pressure (such as neighbors complaining) to deny it, or an existing structural cap that could be referenced online which I have never seen. It might be real, I've just never seen it.

Their "height limit" really sounds like more of a negotiation of the status quo with the city.
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>BREAKING: Beginning April 29, 2026, Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland park will expand its timeline to include more Star Wars eras.
>Darth Vader, Leia Organa, Han Solo, and Luke Skywalker will arrive on Batuu, joining other beloved characters roaming the Outer Rim outpost.
>Rey and the Resistance will continue their fight against the First Order in the Resistance Camp.
>Musical selections from John Williams’ Star Wars film scores will be played throughout the land.
The timeline is dead (but only in California lol)
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>>2855256
probably the first real sign that Galaxies Edge was a failure. They may still claim it's so the Gorgu mission in Smugglers Run fits in.

It being cancelled in Paris was also a big hint. If it was printing money they would have jumped at the chance to build it.
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>>2855256
>Musical selections from John Williams’ Star Wars film scores will be played throughout the land.
The lack of a score is still the most fucking baffling part of Galaxy's Edge for me. I understand the pencil-pushers demanding sequel characters to push the new movies even if I think it's dumb, but having no music just made everything feel dead.
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>>2855256
lol
What a fucking retarded idea that whole thing was.

>Umm sweaty there are more star wars stories ahead of us than behind us so theming our 2 billion dollar expansion to a planet no one has ever heard of that gets casually name dropped by Bill Burr in a disney+ show one time makes total financial sense for our company
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>>2855296
Unlike the land, Rise itself features a lot of classic John Williams score, which I think is part of why people so much.
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>>2855299
*why people like it so much
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>>2855298
There's a logic in the idea of "New spaceport planet to avoid favoritism towards any one classic planet", but they forgot the part where in that case, the attractions at the spaceport should actually take you to all the iconic planets.
The Smugglers Run update helps, but they really should have relocated Star Tours over to Galaxy's Edge too.
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>>2855256
The mention of specific areas of the land makes me wonder if Smuggler's Run will eventually get a retheme to the OT while Rise stays as is.
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>>2855305
Nah even that's dumb. Wizarding World succeeded because guests could watch the movies at home, then travel to the parks and walk right into the movies in a 1:1 very accurate highly detailed sort of way. You could do the same shit the characters do in the movies in flesh space and it made universal and JK Rowling billions.

It was fucking retarded to not do that with Star Wars when you have such iconic locations begging to be turned into explorable theme park areas. Tt was extreme hubris to think that the new "fanfic" story you were writing would eventually surpass the originals in the public consciousness.

Just thinking about how much money Disney left on the table by not doing the most obvious move with the IP boggles the mind. What they should have done was divide the planets across the parks. DL gets Death Star and Endor. DW gets Tatooine and Hoth. It's so obvious it actually pisses me off thinking about how smug the suits at disney must have felt intentionally opting to not do it. It would have made so much fucking money
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>>2855305
And then there's

>Tomorrowland
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>Universal brought back the free months promotion and upgraded it to 3 this time
>just in time for my renewal

AP chads we literally cannot stop winning.
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>>2855256
WDW hasn't even fixed the cannons on Rise yet btw
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Figment popcorn bucket for this year
You can tell they are running out of ideas already
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>>2855358
They should make a Dreamfinder's blimp bucket.
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>>2855256
>>2855346
Whatever middle managers are responsible for wdw have always been cheap as fuck compared to whoever is in charge of disneyland. Not surprising that they would cheap out on this like they do for everything.
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>>2855358
That looks like a very poor popcorn containment vessel.
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>>2855346
They're never going to fix the cannons. Having to stop the vehicle whenever a cannon slides forward was the most frequent reason the ride would break down.
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>>2855362
It is the obvious design. It would be an insane seller and be the most hyped product since the first one.
The catch 22 is they will not make merch of a character no longer present, but will not represent the character unless it is a proven seller. So they only care about the dragon because he sells merch and managed to survive this far, and will not make anything with Dreamfinder for people to show with dollars he can sell.
They are almost directly trying to avoid using him for these buckets
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>>2855406
They fixed them in California
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>>2855423
WDW constantly teasing the return of Figment and Dreamfinder and only bringing them back in extremely token ways really typifies the weird abusive relationship between the parks and Disney adults.
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>>2855458
The good imagineers (what few are left) want to bring him back and are very vocal about it. Jeff Vahle (the real villain at WDW) doesn't want to because Figment wouldn't sell enough lightning lanes. Hence you get this shitty middleman consumer shit for retards. I am slightly optimistic once Josh becomes CEO he might actually listen to imagineers for once and push Jeff out. Probably just wishful thinking though.
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>>2855466
Corporate clearly doenst want to commit to restoring the ride entirely so they are just throwing tidbits out in the hopes that the hype will die down.
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At a pin store in Magic Kingdom and saw that the Kingdom Hearts pins were under "Theme Parks & Resorts" instead of their usual "Mickey and Friends" position
Happening?
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>>2855458
It is a rather parasocial relationship.
Behind all the company’s celebratory promotion of Figment is the reality they very openly kept trying to retire the character as late as the late 2010s, let alone they actually did remove him once. They only are doing things the last 3 years because they found out he sells, and they only care for the profit aspect of the singular character.
They know they have Disney Adults by the balls so they can do whatever and they will still return. They have never teased Dreamfinder returning because they don’t care about the reason he has an audience at all, and he would only come back if the ride is due for renovation anyway and they choose to not add an IP. They very well might just put Figment with Inside Out in a ride before putting Dreamfinder back to have their cake and eat it. They only want their sellable Disney Parks mascot and keeping him while getting the IP ride with lightning lane will cover it for execs.
People will piss and moan but Disney would get what it wants, and those same people will still return. As always
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>>2855346
>>2855406
Cannons don't bother me as much as B-mode Kylo

>>2855480
Yeah bro the old lady stocking the pin stand leaked the expansion
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>>2855483
For better or worse, that Seth Rogen Figment movie is going to decide the pavilion's future. Like if Dreamfinder comes back, he's going to be played by a celebrity.
Hell, about a decade ago, they supposedly toyed around with the idea of a Figment and Dreamfinder 3D movie for the Magic Eye starring Jack Black as a "We'll give you Dreamfinder back but we're too lazy to actually fix the ride" solution.
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>>2855497
CHICKEN JOCKEY
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>>2855497
Some Disney insider said the first draft (which apparently was scrapped, they are working on a new one) was a generic Figment goes to the real world plot. That is very broad but it is very possible they never intend Dreamfinder at all.
Then again, could have been like an adaption of the comic, who knows. But it would not surprise me if it is Figment only
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>>2855509
Writers mentioned having read the comics and Disney never markets the Imagination Institute in anything.
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Went to Magic Kingdom the other day and there was a costumed character of Big Al. Kids were FLOCKING towards him in droves.
Bros...
Are the Country Bears finally popular again? Even moreso than before?
Only other theme parks OC I can think of that has this much popularity is Figment
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>>2855521
>Imagination Institute
Isn't the Imagination Institute actually part of some sort of "comedian in science comedy" cinematic universe IP? Flubber, Honey I..., etc
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>>2855591
You could make a costumed meet and greet of any cute animal and kids are excited. I wouldnt read too much into it
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Why are Brazilians so loud?
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>>2855591
I have not seen any Country Bears in the wild yet like I regularly do Orange Bird and Figment
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>>2855625
I didn't think they were that bad when I went to Epic this past year.
The worst were some Italians, one of them kept barking like a dog in line for King Kong amd his entire group thought it was so funny
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>when i'm in a pretentious cunt competition and my opponent is poiseidon entertainment
>https://youtu.be/BVePpER2ICo
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>>2855689
"Disney Adults are Mormons" was funny as fuck to hear
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>>2855689
I'm watching the video and have yet to encounter something he's wrong about.

He may be a pretentious faggot but credit where credit is due. He's calling out the goysumer zogbots but with language they may be more willing to listen to rather than how I'd phrase it.
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>>2855693
>He's calling out the goysumer zogbots
They're in the thread now. They were just discussing the next licensed souvenir popcorn container they're going to buy. They're pathetic
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>They're in the thread now. They were just discussing the next licensed souvenir popcorn container they're going to buy. They're pathetic
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>>2855697 (me)
And before the faggot seethes at my post for being called out as a soiboi I would like to state for the record that I'm more of a Universal guy, I just find people like (You) even more annoying than Disney Adults
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>>2855697
Before excitedly wanting to spend money on an injection molded piece of plastic shaped in one of your favorite Disney® characters, you were speculating on what the removal of some shrubbery at a Disney® park could have meant. Absolutely sad
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>>2855699
>[INCOHERENT SCHIZOBABBLE]
Yup, I (>>2855698) was right, the seethe was inevitable.
Also IIRC if you had a brain and actually read the thread you're realize that earlier the "speculation" was pessimistic. How does that make them "disney adults"?
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>5 minutes since my post and still no reply from him
He's absolutely MALDING right now I just know it
Trolling op a success, returning to HQ
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This is a very important general full of stunningly intelligent people.
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>>2855703
>This is a [HEADCANON]
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Make fun of actual Disney Adults, not based Soarin' enjoyers like me.

https://x.com/Emilio2763/status/2011955808892772698
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Anyways, while he seethes, I'm gonna get outta this general and board. Slowly losing interest in theme parks again; my interest in my true passion (programming & videogames) is slowly rejuvenating.
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>>2855705
The prevalence of this body type among theme park fans is kinda wild if you think about it.

Theme parks are a hobby where:
>you are outdoors all day
>you walk all day
>the weather is hot and you sweat all day

The fact that they are so consistently consuming enough calories off zogchow to sustain their BMI is crazy
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>>2855705
Based soarinchad
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>>2855709
I think it's because Disney has a lot of indoor shading and rest opportunities built in to the experience. I don't think these people could survive a day in 2 hour long outdoor queues at Six Flags
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>>2855712
>Six Fags
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>>2855712
Even if you include the seating areas, it's still a lot of walking. At least 15k steps just ambulating around from area to area. Any loop of the park is 2k steps alone.

I'm pretty thin and in shape compared to the average American and I usually put up around 40k steps without noticing it at any park just because of how built into the experience it is. Even if you did the barest of bare minimums it's enough walking to go calorie negative for the week unless you drown yourself in onion rings and milkshakes
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>>2855706
I accept your concession.
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I miss google maps guy and wish he was still here. At least he made OC even if I disagreed with is opinion that MIB should be turned into OZ
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>>2855696
The only replies to the Figment bucket post were negative, the fuck do you mean
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>>2855726
>Oh that's why we couldn't shut up about it, because we hate it
>We're totally not going to buy it!
What a grim fandom
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>>2855729
You're a manchild.
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>>2855697
>>2855698
>>2855700
>>2855702
>>2855706
>>2855726
>>2855730
>>2855731
"I'm not mad. Take your meds, manchild."
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>>2855693
The only major retardation I can think of was the Tiana video.
>>2855697
brim
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>>2855735
"I'm not mad, I'm gonna mass reply to all the people clowning on me to show that I'm totally not mad"
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Universal Orlando just posted this on their instagram.

Seems like the Fast and Furious Orlando coaster is being announced Tuesday
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>>2855861
https://x.com/UniversalORL/status/2012545446443417956

Supercharged bros it's never been so over
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I'm a car guy and I hate FNF so much it's unreal.
Entire franchise propped up by brown people.
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>>2855698
>>2855697
He’s right you know.
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>>2855874
Yes, but I also fucking hate Jurassic World for being soulless corporate nonsense and that still produced two amazing rides. Fast and Furious is a dogshit third world franchise, but mixing street racing and a rollercoaster sounds awesome. Plus it will get rid of Supercharged and potentially clear the way for a Monsters Unchained level dark ride at USF which is sorely needed at that park.

The theme never really matters if the ride is a banger.

>>2855875
>>2855796
>>2855752
>>2855735
Please stop.



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