Where can you go to stay or live that will genuinely let you be alone?Looking at cabins, camping, land plots still is a struggle for they are all too close to others and when that happens you inevitably get surrounded by the burden of the braindead masses who will blast music, smoke weed and cigarettes among other drugs, drink too much and yell at each other, bring their yapping dogs and machinery, and leave trash behind. I sincerely want to get the fuck away from all of this permanently. Where then? Do I have to hide out in the wilderness? I could set up a small hut there. I don't need much just survival. I don't even want electricity and hvac shit, it's a nuisance.
>>2856749I'll get the ball rolling with the Polish mountains. Not 'complete' solitude, but not a bad start.Stayed in a cabin last April, 4 days, couldn't see another house anywhere. Was on a trail, and saw maybe 4 people pass a day. Felt fucking beautiful at night cooking shit on the firepit enjoying some wine and vodka under the stars in relative isolation.Our hosts said they had a 'survival cabin' further into the woods with no utilities (we had solar/gas). Also, did the same thing in Siwa, Egypt (fuck need to get back to my thread, lol). Had a house in the middle of fucking nowhere, which felt like the middle of the desert at night (was in the midddle of endless date plantations).I was using this for Poland: https://alohacamp.com/enUnironically check Airbnb, too. There's ways of doing custom filters and searches so you can look for 'unique experiences', like cabins. I always ran custom filters on fire pits, which were typically a good sign of some degee of remoteness.
>>2856749Also, you can always try booking.com map mode. Go to mountains and forests and shit, and look for places far out of the way. Albania wasn't bad far semi-remoteness. The Accursed Mountains are pretty remote, while accessible, and there's still places on the Riviera you can wild camp out of the way. (I found the mountains to the sea - bouncing between my tent and airbnbs - was a nice way to spend a month after covid isolation)
Ugh, while I'm here:Airbnb 'secret' filters:https://airbnbase.com/superfilter/Booking.com unique accommodation filtershttps://www.booking.com/accommodations.en-gb.htmlLook around Airbnb (use search queries like 'Europe Cabin Airbnb' to reach the pages) gets you shit like picrel.Like I said, maybe it's a bit entry level wilderness isolation stuff, but gets the ball and discussion rolling.
>>2856758>>2856759>>2856760I appreciate your serious response. Some just don't get it, that the world is overcrowded and overstimulating and so far removed from nature and natural living.I am definitely looking at mountains all around, ensuring to be away from resorts and hiking paths and parks. The cabin sounds amazing, and so does the desert house. I actually also really crave a desert experience, maybe not long term but it sounds invigorating.Really helpful stuff thanks!!
>>2856749>go to America>buy old van>throw mattress and cookstove inside>enjoy all the extreme isolation your heart desires, be it the Nevada desert, the Michigan forest, or the Eastern Oregon mountains
>>2856749The desert
>>2856859Recommendations?
>>2856932Central Nevada, Western Utah, Navajo County
>>2856758I'm not Euro but the first thing I thought of was Balkans.I like to hike on travels and the abandoned villages everywhere in the balks blew my mind, it's so fucking surreal. Like a whole little town with stuff everywhere but no people and you're sitting there in the town square eating a sandwich feeling like you're in a zombie movie or something.Surprised more people aren't into it, for outdoors stuff convinced it's the best yuro region for it. Lappland for second place.
>>2857146I'm in Bulgaria right now.True there's a lot of villages.I did a mountain hike recently and it's quite peaceful in tne winter. But I'm looking for residence, do I take the camping pill? I'll need a tent.
The American west is the size of Western Europe and mostly empty. Wyoming is 70% the size of Germany and has less than 1% the population of Germany. Same with southern Utah, lots of Arizona, Montana, eastern Washington & Oregon and most of New Mexico. California and Colorado are the only densely populated states out west and even CO/CA have isolated areas where you could find solitude.
>>2857400Why not find a vacant building to sleep in?
>>2857695Arizona, Montana, and Utah are all booming with population anon. Idaho as well. They’ll be crowded soon enough
>>2857765It's always awkward when someone finds you
>>2857797No one is moving to the West Desert or Box Elder County.
suburbs
>>2857797If you think Montana is full I don't know what to tell you anon. It's the same size as Germany with barely 1 million people.
>>285779780% of the population lives east of the Mississippi. It will take a very long time for the west to get crowded. The urban areas are definitely growing though. Lots of immigrants moving in.
>>2857695Wyoming is Siberia level empty
>>2858030How do non-duck dynasty niggas live in Wyoming?
>>2858030Most of it is so barren. Who the hell wants to sit in the middle of a treeless waterless plain and stare at the horizon for days on end? Fuck that. There's a good reason why all that space is empty.
Just go to Alaska although its easier to get yourself killed if you don't know what you are doing.
>>2856749You could do the Kungsleden in Northern Sweden and can stay in remote cabins there along the trailWould have to keep moving though (its a 400km trail)I've done day trips in autumn met one Swiss guy doing the whole thing he said he barely came across anyone, I was the first person he'd seen in days. We were close to the cabin he was staying in and he showed me inside, so fucking cozy. You have to contact the local associations to get keys and prove you aren't a nutjob, which might be hard considering you post here.
>>2856749you inevitably get surrounded by the burden of the braindead masses who will blast music, smoke weed and cigarettes among other drugs, drink too much and yell at each other, bring their yapping dogs and machinery, and leave trash behindI live in a regular suburb and the only one of these I have to deal with is yapping dogs. You sound like an extreme autist.
>>2863391The great American suburb is the apex of civilization.
In Norway you can drive an hour out of any city and you'll usually be in complete isolation, often with some of the best nature you've ever seen
>>2856749>I sincerely want to get the fuck away from all of this permanently.dude you'll never even be able to give up 4chanyou are the "braindead masses" you claim to despiseif you wanted, you could probably find a good approximation of "complete solitude" a few miles from your current homebut we both know you'll never do it because within an hour you would be bored and scrolling through tiktok watching ai generated videos of dancing cats or whatever, then you'd get hungry and wander back to macdonalds
>>2863391>>2863442"The projection of a miserable person"It's like fine art
>>2863743yes anon you're totally right, i'm just miserable and projecting, and it's completely realistic that op will fulfil his disgruntled daydreams and give up his modern life for a cabin in the woods of siberia or the pitcairn islands or wherever, and it's also completely true that you're not just another pompous 4chan narcissist with no personality to speak of
>>2863442hang on those cat videos aren't real?
>>2858019>>2858030it used to be empty forty years ago but then it filled up with all those california people
>>2856749Northern Norway is a safe bet if you want to remain in a civilized country.Other than that, bothe th US and Russia are sparsely settled and consist of mostly empty land with no soul in sight once you leave the areas where the locals shacks and commieblocks are huddled together. In the US alone, the distance between two trailer parks or nigger ghettoes can sometimes be hundreds of Kilometres with basically nothing but the odd gas station inbetween.