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I'm planning a visit to Europe in September/October and I'm looking at Switzerland, Austria, and Sweden/Norway/Denmark. I'm choosing only one country not multiple. How do you guys budget for your daily spending outside of stuff you book in advance like flights, hotels, trains, and shows? I've only traveled to thirdie countries like Colombia where it's almost impossible to spend more a day than I do at home. I've tried looking on the internet and the answers were all over the place ranging from ridiculous like 500+usd a day in Switzerland to a questionable 50usd in Vienna. If anyone has been to one of the aforementioned countries roughly what did you spend a day? I'm traveling with my wife and she doesn't drink alcohol which I've heard is very expensive in those countries.
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Per Diem is usually referred to as something you're company is giving you. Are you just asking how much should you budget per day?
> How do you guys budget for your daily spending outside of stuff you book in advance like flights, hotels, trains, and shows?
I look up hotel or hostel prices and figure out what accommodations I am willing to fork over for that level of comfort.
For food I just look at a few kebab shops, fast food chains, double it and figure that's my food
For transportation I use my feet, maybe look up a train day pass or the like

Plop that over the days I intent to spend and boom there you go.
>ridiculous like 500+usd a day in Switzerland to a questionable 50usd in Vienna
Because you're probably not understanding the context of these people. Someone on a Honeymoon with their 2-4 week extravaganza is willing to dump 500 on a time to remember, where as someone else might be looking at a hostel to shit/shower/shave.
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>>2864817
>>2864817
>Per Diem is usually referred to as something you're company is giving you. Are you just asking how much should you budget per day?
Yeah I wasn't sure what to call it and I'm a bit of a tard.
>For food I just look at a few kebab shops, fast food chains, double it and figure that's my food
Makes sense.
>Run the numbers for staying in Switzerland
>Food and drinks are more expensive than lodging and airfare
Wtf man
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>>2864850
>>Food and drinks are more expensive than lodging and airfare
I know Switzerland isn't the cheapest place but what kind of lodging are you looking at? Basic bitch hostel or something? Not looking it up but a kebab or random sandwhich from aldi/lidl/local place should be maybe ~5 euros a full kebab basket might be ~8-9
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>>2864850
>>Food and drinks are more expensive than lodging and airfare
Are you just jumping on the cheapest ryanair flight or some shit?
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>>2864855
I was looking at lower end basic hotels which could be found for 150-170usd a night. Since I'm with my wife I can't stay at a hostel but I don't want or need more than bed + bath + outlets. I estimated food cost based on eating out twice a day, once at a takeout place like a kebab or pizza shop and once at a nicer restaurant plus some extra for stopping for coffee/tea and going out for a few beers after my wife goes to sleep. I just clicked some random spots around Google maps, most kebab places charge 15-17 francs for donner, there was a place that had 12 franc doners but it looked like a dump. Even at an Indian restaurant curry is 27-30 francs. I was shocked beer was only 8 or 9 francs and it wasn't even American Pisswasser. Vienna was much more in line with what I thought a trip to a wealthy part of Europe would be.
>>2864860
I can fly round trip with a direct flight from Las Vegas to Zurich on Edelweiss air for only $552 per person. If I wanted to be a really cheap fuck and have two layovers they go as low as $511. I'm going off peak season in September or October it would be double that price in the summer.
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If you're on a moderate budget, stay out of Switzerland. Everything is 3X the price everywhere else in Europe. The Austrian Alps can be expensive too. Kitzbuhel is very pricey. If you want to see the Alps, I'd go to Italy or France.
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>>2864885
I've heard the swiss have to smuggle groceries back from france it's so fucking expensive there. They hide them in the car at the border crossing to avoid paying the duties.



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