Why do you want to be a digital nomad

>>2865004
Seems like a #VanLife kind of thing where few people actually do it but it gets posted about online constantly by "influencers" and LARPers and people who desperately want to live like that but can't. The one time I was allowed to work from home made the idea seem awful unless you were a freelancer or something where you could choose when you communicate with other people.

>>2865004
the term is loaded with implications but really it is the person able to earn their money online while choosing where to live/moving around. so the term is a meme but obviously the possibility is still a reality
people can do enough ad hoc tasks to get by in some 3rd world vacation spot - is that a digital nomad
or they have some white-collar wfh job they go abroad but maintain their fake inflated salary
they are self employed whether service provision of their skills or selling product or selling other peoples products
maybe there are other ways people are making money to survive while abroad, whether or not they are making savings or just enjoying the moment.

>>2865004
It's not for everyone. The loneliness builds the longer you geomax. It's also exhausting moving so much. Probably the best way to do it is find one continent you like, nomad for a year there, and then get a remote worker visa in the area you like most. Get a base and take occasional trips abroad.
>t. lonely geomaxxer unc

>>2865004
It's a real thing but afaik is hard to achieve. Overall I think the amount of people who are able to do it successfully long term is small. Seen a few people sitting on their laptops in hostel common rooms all day I assume were doing it.

For a while I really wanted to do it too and certainly the lifestyle still seems appealing on the surface but there are a lot of drawbacks including loneliness and lack of community like >>2865103
says. A lot of them either have cushy tech jobs or are scammers trying to sell "business courses". I think there's also a growing push back to it in some places where it's popular like Mexico City due to gentrification and pricing out locals for housing.

>>2865105
>digital nomad
>living out of hostels
wew lad
>pushback against nomads
It's more of a pushback against tourists/non-locals in general. 99.9% of this is just seething online because prices are going up. I've never had any locals give me shit and I've been doing this since 2017.
It's pretty dumb imo. My hometown got expensive as fuck too because of foreign tourists and locals moving there en masse. I didn't seethe, I just left for places that were more reasonable.
I'm very sorry that Javier from Barcelona can't make ends meet anymore from his anti-fascist artist collective/record shop, but if some tourist from Sweden is willing to spend significantly more to live in the hip neighborhood, the free-market will do as it always has. Build your skills if you love it so much or gtfo.
>Waaaaaa!!! I DESERVE to live in the most popular area of my country and pay a pittance for it because I moved here first!
If you didn't buy a home there, you have no claim. If you did buy a home before the demand, congratulations–you made it.

It's a sloppy crowd.

After 2 years as an expat worker in asia + 5yr as a digital nomad...

(And one impregnated filipina as my backup server)

The main thing i learned is what my team is and who has my back. Marco Rubio got it right. European heritage americans + europeans. I'll be returning home with an enthusiasm

Any digital nomad hub like da nang is full of drunks and impulsive subhumans. They are embarrassing representatives.


There are some regular-ish peoole, but overall not a special community. Nothing compared to being a USA institutional profession on avg.

Going to go back to making 300k in America alongside people that are disciplined like me. That think like me

>>2865111
You sound like the exact type of deracinated rootless subhuman that's perfect for the digital nomad lifestyle.

>>2865103
I made the OP for general discussion but for my case I have a country I built a network that I want to relocate too.

>>2865111
Yeah spics and diet spics have zero right to even voice a word about changing demographics. Is it actually that much of an issue irl, outside of super touristed areas in Barcelona and the like? Like will some normies on the street squirt me with a water gun for clearly being a gringo?

>>2865004
Before it really had this name I just ran websites and received ad revenue 20 years ago. Back then I just traveled around to diff countrys working from cafes if I needed to. Then saw the remote working digitral nomad niche boom and all the coworking spaces pop up. I truely missed the glory days of being a digital nomad.

It's a very real thing if you can get a wfh job that doesn't care and you can handle weird hours.

The loneliness builds though and travel slowly becomes not as fun. That's the real drawback to it.

>>2865131
Did you pack it up and head home when it went downhill as well?

I was expat in HK 2016-17
Then digi nomad (usa software job) spring 2022-spring 2026

>>2865112
>who has my back
>European heritage americans
White Americans are widely known for throwing each other under the bus, even just for fun, and ostracizing others who trigger their commonly fragile and narcissistic egos. They're cannibalistic.

>>2865114
>in America alongside people that are disciplined like me. That think like me
>Americans
>disciplined
>think like me
Well congratulations on being able to come across and be around supposedly quality people. I've not had that pleasure ever and have been seething and feeling dejected because all the key people in my life have been awful and I've been pushed into isolation despite being the only one with my shit together. Being a decent person who works and improves their lot in life is grounds for antagonizing, harassment, and ostracizing.

If you don't conform to their inferior ways and be part of the shitty group you get punished.

>>2865004
I used to run in these circles.
75% of actual 'digital nomads' are already independently wealthy or living on some type of entitlement like scammed disability or a settlement.

Nobody gets any actual work done while 'digital nomading' unless it's maintenence mode of some existing venture.

It's a big meme and unless you are established you will hurt your career by doing it.

That being said if you are doing school online only, it's fine for that.

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>>2865117
>seething about traveling and tourism on a travel and tourism board
>seething about nomads in a nomad thread
what a massive faggot you are lol

>>2865100
I love watching everyone on this slow motion train crash realising it's jut owning your own business
If you cant make work for yourself then shut the fuck up and put the fries in the bag you utter fucking npc

>>2865282
>t. Unemployed and living with parents

>>2865286
time and family, two of lifes most valuable things

>>2865171
Yep, I do still take short stints sometimes but you really-really need roots somewhere and a base to keep up this kind of life longer than a year.

>>2865009
Because I'm a virgin manchild that can't handle responsibility

>>2865111
>the free-market will do as it always has

The "free market" aka unrestrained rent seeking has only been a thing fo rthe past 30 years, and see how rapidly it has snehittified everything. Before the Soviet Union fell, Western governments were incentivized to regulate capitalism as to make sure its worst excesses are avoided. Now that the fear of people going communist has disappeared, the shitslide was let roll. Your neoliberal blubbering is purely delusional.

>Build your skills if you love it so much or gtfo.

You will see that its not really explainable to people as to why they need to "build their skills" to afford the same lifestlye that their illiterate peasant grandfathers had.Its pointless aynways, because the group of people able to afford shit is constantly dwindling.
What do you do if you end up bein gon the loser side? Which you inevitably will thanks to the law of capital accumulation, as (you) will never be a billionaire.

>>2865195
>They're cannibalistic
We were a lot less of this back when each group of people in each state had their own collectively-shared identity, we just fought other states in the same way that European nations fought other European nations. You can actually see in older shows like Dragnet that in the 50s and 60s there was a growing fear that everybody moving around between states would create a huge problem with baseless citizens with no collective identity.

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>>2865431
>but muh illiterate peasant grandpa
You mean when the world population was a fraction of what it is now, and he didn't have to compete with foreigners willing to work for less?
Cope about the state of things all you want. It won't change the trajectory of the way things are headed. The only thing you can do is try and stay ahead in the rat race. If that involves moving to a destination that is lucrative for you but drives up the cost for locals, oh well. They are free to do so as well.
Trang or Pablo move to my country to make money and drive up costs, so I see no issue in doing the same in their countries.
>pic related

>>2865539
>He thinks that's Trang and Pablo's fault and not the billion dollar corporations buying up all the housing for profit
GOOD GOY! VERY VERY GOOD GOY!

Ending the digital nomad meme as of this spring. Several years of it showed me that being an institutional professional is best done in your home country. It's too important for me

>>2865112
>I'll be returning home with an enthusiasm
>>2865114
>Nothing compared to being a USA institutional profession on avg
>>2865764
>being an institutional professional is best done in your home country
Hear that wagies, don't even think of leaving the plantation, there's nothing out there. This certainly isn't a weird psyop by people that speak alien English

Tons of people making it work but those people are poor and move to the cheapest possible places and pretend to work for 8 hours scrolling social media and maybe work for an actual one hour a day at most. The rent is a few hundred dollars, and some food, they are basically wagie bums.

Source I've been in these towns and walked around the office to see people doing fuck all. I don't work online I just use the office sometimes to study or relax in the living room when nobody is there. There's free tv and video games, and a kitchen. I go with someone who pays for it, free for me anyway.

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Done it for years, it can be done still be done it's just wild how people overexaggerate it. Typical work abroad from US based CST working in Asia
-wake up 8-9PM grab a snack and a coffee
-say hello to coworker or two to ensure they know I am alive/online
-answer emails+check on projects
-work from 10->4AM maybe sneak in a snooze or two (project based so not a big deal)
-usually eat some bento or grab/uber
-5AM head to gym(anytimefitness is pretty GOAT if you're DN)
-workout till about 7am
-grab breakfast or some post workout meal
-8AM till about 1:30PM do some tourist shit
-Head back around 2PM to be asleep by 3PM
-rinse and repeat

It's fine, biggest issue is that Friday nights are usually a bust work gives me a lot of freedom to take fridays off/light "on call" but even then it's often still much more lacking than I would be able to have back home. Depending on your gig you might also have to spend more $ on proper places to stay, now that I am a Sr. Infrastructure guy I can't get away with private rooms in hostels anymore. My boss doesn't care that I work abroad just so long as I am not drunk and get my projects done on time.

Also if you're a DN, get a USB-c monitor it makes your life infinitely better

>>2865103
>Get a base and take occasional trips abroad.
1000% this
full time digital nomad will make you hate shit. Nothing like being 90 days in a new country moving on to the next and the next. More often than not you'll get full on hermit mode at some point, then you look back and realize shit you glossed over because everything was blurring together. So many times I look back at where I was months ago then realizing I was either too tired or too tied up on something completely missing events, people, festivals, etc because I had to hit the hay or still had to work. Your weekends get shafted no matter how you shape it if you're US working remotely.

>>2865733
>immigration does not drive up cost of living
Oh boy

>>2865792
im a native born english speaker and i speak alien english

>>2865004
doesn't work

>>2865884
It doesn't dude, I live in LA and it drives prices DOWN. People on section 8 help stablize the markets

>>2865806

What's your job and nationality

>>2865004
>is it a meme
That doesn’t even cross my mind because I could never be one.

It makes me so fucking angry that the barrier to leaving America and having limitless access to pussy requires you to be a mega dork faggot that spent 5+ years facefucking his C sharp textbook in college instead of getting pussy that you have enough leverage to demand working remotely so you can live outside the country.

I met such little dork faggots in Bangkok that are basically living a dream life. They have enough money to buy whatever experiences they want whenever they want. They make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

Meanwhile I have to work for 2 years to feel comfortable to fuck off and travel for only 6 months. So effectively, 75% of my life is just being expended in a sub optimal existence so that I can actually enjoy 25% of it.

It’s pitiful and I feel like such a failure because of it

>>2868175
You sound like an unpleasant person

met some digtal nomads while abroad. i think its possible but you need the personality for it. i enjoy being on the move and im fine getting my social kicks from locals/discord. im also not one of those people that sees my job as a end all be all for fufullment/culture etc. the people against it and swear that remote work sucks are great because it opens up more slots for me

>>2865806
it sounds like youre doing what im trying to do. platform engineer so its all project based stuff. like im nornally CST but id be fine with JST since im a night owl anyways.
how did you actually get them to allow you to go remote abroad? some companys seem so strict (taxes, legal) and say you have to be a 1099 to be outside the US. but in a few interviews at smaller places they let it slip they have people in cyprus etc.
did they say you could be remote from the start or was it something you negotiated over time?

How about being useful and sharing digital nomad jobs. What are some reliable and popular digital nomad jobs now that software engineering/coding/IT is out and/or taken over by jeets.

All I know is teaching English online, starting a business/selling things, youtube channels, etc.

Can you get a sales job that allows you to work remotely? I don’t see why cold calling would require you to work on-site, but then again employers like to be assholes.

>>2868258
Go fuck your self
>>2868261
Nope! It’s elite dork faggot with niche coding skills or nothing. There’s zero reason to go to Thailand if you can’t blow 3-4k per month minimum on partying. If you’re gonna live the life of a loser in Thailand might as well just stay home

And go FUCK yourself just because

>>2868264
why do you talk like some 40 year old with a highschooler complex lmao. doing customer service not working out for you?

>>2868261
Outside of tech, i know some guys in marketing that do it. I know fuckall about marketing, but they own their own firm and travel whereever. Really comes down to tax laws. If youre freelance or own your own consulting firm or business it simplifies things

>>2868264
lel it's the insecurity worker faggot again
If I make 4.5k working online, I can live a much better life in Thailand than in the west. I don't want or need to spend 3k on partying a month. Grow up.

>>2865004

Leaf living in Malta and every single digital nomad i met was either:

1. LARP influencer making money off selling courses or what ever bullshit pipe dream he's peddling.

2. Rich kids who pretend they're entrepreneurs but live off their dad's credit card and spend 90% of their time drinking, doing drugs and having sex.

3. Female expat cum dumpsters who think ''exploring the world'' revolves around riding as many dicks as possible and post travel pics on their instagram until their money runs out and they have to move back home because their ''side hustle'' selling healing stones online didn't work out.

A friend in town today talked about another foreigner from New Zealand who teaches his students in an online class and travels the world. So yeah, digital nomads still do exist. But from everything I've seen, you have to already plateau'd in a solid career before a company will let you go fully remote. You sure as hell can't get hired remotely and expect companies to hand you a fat paycheck for loafing around in your underwear behind a screen all day.
>>2867506
Yeah, because we all know how dirt-cheap it is to rent an apartment in Los Angeles. Come on now.
>>2868175
Very illogical to choose enslavement to your desires and then complain that you are not free. Two years' work and bedrotting at the salary you always brag about should net you $100,000 in the bank or investment account. If you're stupid enough to hand all of this cash to brown whores on a biannual basis instead of building a work-free future for yourself, that's on you. Can't fix stupid. Here's some math:
>$6000 monthly - $1500 expenses = $4500 savings
>$4500 savings * 24 months = $108K

>>2868175
Meanwhile I haven't even graduated high school and pussy was never an issue because I'm attractive. I couldnt even think of leaving Europe for it because the best looking women are here. I work seasonal jobs and while I dont make bank, I have enough to do whatver I want for half a year. Low stress lifestyle is bliss.

>>2868175
You can't even do basic math if you think 6 months is 25% of 30, let's not pretend you could ever get a CS degree dummy

>>2871581
How the fuck did you not graduate HS. You'd have to be either braindead or drugged up 24/7 to not be able to do that.

>>2865806
I tried this schedule - being a morning person with the locals, but everything was closed from 5am to 11am. I reverted to doing touristy stuff from 1pm to 7pm, then starting work was the best fit for me.

Working remote sorta sucks compared to traveling on a vacation. "Ah I can't go that far because I need to be back, working in 3 hours"

It can be hell of you don't adjust to a regular sleeping schedule too.

I don't really have a desire to do it again after 2.5 of it.

>>2871763
I was troubled and preferred to be chronically online and read books all day long. Looking back I didn't really lose out on much because I was never going to stick with the normal career progression most people do. I work seasonal jobs and travel or do whatever I want for the rest of it. Whenever I imagine being stuck in some office for all year long and having to negotiate my free time I want to blow my casket off. I need freedom for several months at a time, non negotiable and on my own terms. Benefits of my lifestyle is how very little stress and pressure I feel. Downsides are not making as much money and being very nomadic.

>>2868175
One day you'll be seething about how you missed out on IT and how miserable you are in your life, while the next day you'll be trying to boast about your 'high paying' job that doesn't require any real work.
You're such a fucking loser. I have no idea how you supposedly got so much pussy in college because you are a dreadful person.
When the day comes to pay the piper, you'll end up joining the Pattaya flying club.

>>2871921
Whats truly sad is that you reply to yourself to keep your shitty threads alive.

God damn how are you retards so obsessed with minmaxing that you can't see balance as a good option in life?

I worked a reasonable amount in college (mfg and ind engineering) but was still able to get some play with baddies. I found work in manufacturing and now get a pretty decent amount of time off to fuckoff and do whatever (3wk vacation, 1wk sick, 2wk holidays at EOY, long weekends) and still have a good worklife balance & make solid cash. I also get to travel on the company dime to conferences and worksites across the world, which is also pretty cool. Yeah, maybe I'm not goofing off and living huge for half of the year, but I'm also not a slave for the other half with absolutely no savings to my name. Pussy is fun, but I would in no way want to orient my life around random browncooch and risk missing out on the other things in life.

tldr have some fucking discipline and don't try to waste your life living that one high over and over. Work smart and play smarter, don't be a retarded slave to your impulses.

>>2872009
Unironically its from growing up playing video games, specially mmos, combined with the modern education system. You are taught in school that you must min maxx your entire life, get into a prestigious top 10 uni etc, then you go home and play LoL or WoW for fun and are taught to min maxx or youre a stupid faggot piece of shit wasting everyones time for not playing like a professional. For basically anyone born 1995 > now, your entire life is about minmaxxing

Naturally when these poor creatures become adults they carry this attitude into life. Social media only makes kt worse, as now you are competing agaisnt the entire world in whatever category you are minmaxxing, and FOMO becomes the primary motivation for existing

>>2865009
Because the social opportunities available abroad are just incredible. I am fucking amazed at what's readily available outside America and I'm fucking depressed and fuming that I had to be isolated and rot so much of my youth away.

Have you ever felt you've been stuck in prison your whole life and then when you're almost 40 you see what was available all this time but just not for you?

>>2865009
Because:
1) I know the world is going to be a hell of a lot different than what it will be when I am retirement age of 55-65
2) When I get to retirement age I most likely won't have the same energy I do as of now for the things I want
3) I understand my savings and stuff will have lower buying power compared to the salary I make today
4) more physically active than I will be at retirement age

Also, because since I am WFH why not do it somewhere I enjoy?

>>2872024
There's a lot of exaggeration on this board about how everyone in Third World countries is happy and horny and playful 24/7, waiting for you the White God to step off the plane so they can lavish you with attention. That's not the case at all. Life is often a lot more difficult in Asia, everything is more shoddy and more frustrating and more mired in age-old problems.

However, the "I hate my life, everything here sucks" complaining culture that is so prevalent in America - as your post illustrates - is mostly absent here. Sometimes getting away from all those sour, self-loathing people is all that is necessary to have the time of your life. But others discover that they cannot lose themselves in hedonistic leisure activities. They feel profoundly alienated from the Good Time Charlie crowds. If you've matured too much to enjoy shouting drunkenness and lascivious flirting, don't pine away for muh heckin lost youth. Go your own way instead.

>>2872187
same logic as me, also wfh at 29

>>2872566
He wasn't making any claims that life for Asians or Whites in Asia is always easy. He also wasn't claiming to be the a white god in anyone's presence. Why are you interpreting his post falsely? Do you refuse to empathize when you post?

He claimed social opportunities were better. That can be interpreted in many ways. Somehow you chose the most ugly, cliche interpretation - the loser back home doomer mindset. Why do that when someone is explaining how great something is? Yeah he used a metaphor of being stuck in prison but he is positive posting. Don't tread on positive posters unless you're going to interpret their posts honestly and provide honest or original criticism.

>>2872024
I've also experienced more social opportunities. Their beauty and any mysticism they hold is amplified by being in some random corner of the earth. Meeting Japanese friends and being invited to the bath house with them. Going for motorcycle rides to nearby cities with solo girl travelers in Vietnam. Chatting with a pack of 50yo boomers from Korean on a boys weekend away from their wives. I've had some cool spontaneous experiences in the west, though they've all been with Asian men or woman. Curious. It all happens so naturally and more frequently in on trips across seas.

>>2872566
Apologize if you mentioning all the doomer stuff was just to say "Hey dude, don't sweat it. People on this board exaggerate non western countries as being so much better but they're actually quite bad"