Sure. Just be the older guy with the drugs.

>>2867609
how does one start doing that?

>ANOTHER unc-cel thread

>>2867607
I met a guy in his early 40s in a Budapest hostel. He went out clubbing and talked with a lot of people. I never saw him score with any woman, but he never made it awkward and he fit right in with the rest of the 20 something's

>>2867622
That's fucking tragic
>t. guy in his early 40s

>>2867624
Why is that tragic? If anything it's based to still have such youthful vigor

>>2867632
>Why is that tragic?
because
>I never saw him score with any woman

>>2867634
Well he looked like he had fun anyway chillin with da boyz

>>2867607
I'm 37 and people constantly mistake me for a 17 year old. If you don't look young for your age, don't bother.

>>2867645
Bullshit. I guarantee that nobody is asking you where your parents are or why aren't you in school.
>>2867607
All those years of being alone have atrophied your social abilities in a hundred different ways that well-socialized people can't help but pick up on. Sometimes you'll encounter a girl who is tired of hyper social normie chatter, but such types tend strongly toward friendzoning. Best bet is to stop trying to analyze the shit out of sex having (a peak incel trait) and go out there to experience it instead.

>>2867643
>Well he looked like he had fun anyway chillin with da boyz
he was jestermaxxing (it didn't work)
It's all about women.

>>2867649
>All those years of being alone have atrophied your social abilities in a hundred different ways that well-socialized people can't help but pick up on.
I just barely got out of the shower after coming back to my room after having experienced that from someone I actually kind of thought I'd click well with because I briefly met with them a previous night and chatted/flirted. I then returned to their bar just tonight.

I felt like I was going down the beta boy route with our conversation and then just started asking about how they work in the bar and what rates they have for "studying" since I'm sure they do it. They just ended up quoting me a way higher price for the night or an hour than I ever got and they kept asking how old I was and then watching tiktoks on their phone. Fucking GOD.

It's obvious I was perceived as "old" and my ego was hurt and I was disappointed because they gave me the highest quote I've ever received from anyone and I thought it was total BULLSHIT. After they saying I was handsum. Piecing something else together I think there was a group chat of those bar girls in the area because when I left and walked into another bar I was actually greeted by some random woman as grandpa when I jokingly told the first one I was with I'm grandpa.
I'm not even 40 and I'm getting rejected and mocked for my age and given jacked up prices and apathetic treatment.
Got fucking damn fuck you all.

It's increasingly obvious to me that they're not going to really like me for much more than my money and so I'm just going to have to buy empty dopamine hits. Fuck you all.

>>2867607
College sluts look good but they suck in bed. Fuck 35 year old women who know what they’re doing and give a shit about pleasing their partner.

>>2867671
>suck in bed
Never got why fags care about this.
A hole's a hole. Worst case scenario just guide them

>>2867671
This is a lie. Athletic healthy young women can be great lays.
You lie about it because you can't get it, and the only thing you do manage to pull are the hags you talked about.

>>2867607
>college age
Realistically, you'd need to buy a villa in Tulum, Ibiza, or Cabo, and be a really good host and guide (get free drinks, organize transport, club connections, etc).

Traveling from place to place and larping like the most interesting man in the world is just really not realistic IMO.

>>2867671
Ehhh, I'd say go for mid twenties to late twenties women, they're peak and safely out of the retard phase.

>>2867693
Obsessed. What is it with you clowns? Unless you are mentally stuck in grade school for life, you age out of being interested in 20 year old women eventually.
Get over having spent your twenties as a loser, compensating for that years later is embarassing.

>>2867693
I'm mid 30s. My last fuckbuddy was 22. She was terrible in bed and this isn't the first time it has happened. 30s women are much better lays.

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>t.

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>>2867607
>Can a loner man in his early-mid 30s
sure? When I went to Eastern Europe for work and decided to have some nightlife, there were people from all walks of life out and about. It was a normal thing. The same when I went to Japan. I truly believe its only in the USA where clubbing/nightlife had become so hostile.
>change his lifestyle to hang out with younger people and party and fuck college sluts if he travels
now this is where it gets complicated. If you are balding, overweight, have no sense of personal goals/ambition or lifestyle, no fashion sense or friends- why would they go with you? They can go with a younger, more successful, handsome and outgoing guy. So you also have to compete against those type of men. You have to stand out in other ways. They can travel like you, have friends their own age that you don't. What sets you apart?
>What are the best travel locations for this?
Just go to oldschool Europe. Helsinki in Finland. Anywhere in Eastern Europe. Asia. South America.

>>2867739
Probably a skill issue. I fuck mostly 16-24 year olds and most of them are very active in bed, especially when encouraged.
Being attractive personally is only one element. Actually knowing how to arouse and seduce a woman is another.
Work on your touch and hand game before the main event. If she isn't leaking into your palm, she isn't ready.
Go ahead and post your cope now, but this is your wakeup call. It's not even a debate, you're just fucking up and im informing you of the fact.

>>2867803
pff sure thing brah.
You're also a 6'3 millionaire, right ?

Taking a flight to a random destination isn't going to magically make you a Lothario, but every loner hopes that going to a city like Prague or Bangkok and lurking around a street full of bars will lead to a series of happenings that will manifest a buoyant escapism they never felt before and result in a memorable night. How often does such a breakout actually happen? Rarely. It's called the law of accumulated advantage. But that doesn't stop guys from trying their best.

Paralysis by analysis is another pitfall. You spend so much time thinking and fantasizing about women in the abstract that when you encounter a foid IRL, your brain freezes up for that crucial moment when you had an opening, too cluttered with endless hypothesizing to react to a developing situation. Then it's gone forever, and you descend further into obsessive self-criticism...or else clear your mind and become entirely focused on the humans in your environment...which is how you attune yourself to the behavioral cues of a population and gain confidence for the next crucial moment of initial approach.

>>2867607
Pattaya or Bangkok is good for this specifically, but if you hit the gym and reach model tier, the world is your oyster

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>>2868001
No, im a 6' even 40 year old multi millionaire American, which easy-ish because I worked hard in my 20s and was buying stocks and crypto.
It sucks that you're Indian but we all have our own struggles.
Maybe if you put in your time you can get arranged married to your fat cousin and enjoy her mustache on your curry stirrer.

>>2868032
This is a good post. I dropped gaming as a hobby/time waster almost entirely (from 40hours a week down to 2) and a lot of my depersonalization/brain fog went away. I also quit porn and dont save it to my devices. That took some willpower but I got over it.

The end result was that I could actually talk to people and be engaged with them irl without any issues at all, since socializing is an activity which can be enjoyable if you arent dopamine fried already. Not having 8 hours of gaming to sink into means you arent pressured to rush anything else, so people go from 'obstacles to getting home and playing vidya' to 'the reason I came out'.

Many anons are now mature enough for thst conversation. I wasnt strong enough to do it by sheer willpower. I had to leave the laptop at home and fly to another country for a couple months and force it. The boredom was excruciating, so I just went and did stuff. Anything. And I had a great time and met people.

>>2868154
>here's that kid I was telling you about

>>2867613
Buy drugs.

>>2868158
Amazing how many crypto millionaires there are on this site lol

>>2867609
this pretty much
also dont be retarded and punch out of your league
you know it, sometimes you get lucky though in that case take the chance

dont ever be disappointed, if you strike out just leave dont dwell on it. improve

honestly did better when i was a brokie then i suddenly had money and i turned into an incel, so really it dont matter what you have so long as youre confident and take care of yourself, bitches can smell desperation and will likely take your shit

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>>2867607
Your entry ticket to the prime teen pussy palooza as a 30something is still having a full head of hair. I’ve seen a few chud comments about having drugs or seducing women.

Those things don’t matter if you’re not attractive and having hair is required to be attractive unless you are in perfect physical shape and have an attractive face

Take me for example. I’m 2 months from 35. I still look young, especially clean shaven. Most dudes my age look like dumpster water. Why? Balding or bald.

Jack Morgan the YouTube would look like a meth head begging for change outside a strip mall if it wasn’t for his hair

This very arrogant, gremlin vibed arab guy I stayed in a hostel with who was in his 40s (looked a bit younger, maybe early to mid 30s at best?) hooked up with this hapa girl who looked like a witch and borderline diseased with how many tattoos and piercings she had. I don't know if I'd count that as a win consdierign she no doubt had severe issues as a giant whore, but it's possible. He had like a vegeta hairline

>>2868174
there's too much of white in your ((hair)) to fool anyone

>>2868158
The ballooning of female waistlines has truly become a worldwide phenomenon.
>>2868174
Refusing to grow up does not equal remaining young. Optimism is a key character quality of youth; hopefulness lights up your face. Without that zest for life and the opportunities it provides you, you're gonna look dead-eyed and tired and old regardless of how long you continue boycotting the barbershops. Zoomer hos prefer volume to length btw, that's why the stylish zoomerbros all have fluffed-out broccoli tops and not Beatles tier shag.

>>2868189
>zoomer hos prefer
>he styles his hair according to what women want
Idgaf what women want. Hair signals youth and virility. Potential and future. The untamed masculinity of the follicular follicularly adorned.

>>2868202
LMAO. Greasy, flat hair does not signal youth and virility. It makes you look like a 36 year old pizza delivery driver who stopped giving a fuck a long time ago and hasn't changed his undies in a couple days either.

>>2868204
>a 36 year old pizza delivery driver who stopped giving a fuck a long time ago
Hahaha that's pretty similar to what I thought from his pic

>>2868204
>>2868213
Go perm your hair you little faggots

>>2868158
Phaha suure you are. You and all the rest of em.
But hey. Feel free to LARP at us some more

>>2868158
Post face lmao

>>2868174
Dude's got a fat neck and a weak chin lmao

>>2868174
ok, now let's see a pic from the front so we can see how bad the norwood is

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>>2867649
>>2867764
>seething
so much anger in your hearts, try to lighten up. Next time a storm brews outside, taunt the demiurge. Skip around like you did when you were a kid. He can take your hair but not your spirit

>>2867607
any country in south east asia

>>2868364
STOP SENDING PATHETIC LOSERS TO SEA
FUCKING STOP

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>>2868171
If you didn’t make 6 figures on crypto 2012-2016 you’re probably retarded. It was not hard.

>>2868377
>come across btc when it's around $100
>want to buy 10 just to see what happens
>decide to go to Thailand instead and pretty much just walk around for two months

>>2868265
Why? You dont believe im 40 you fucktard? Between the bots, AI using Indians, and the schizos, this site is almost unusable.

>>2868365
Its full of normies you retard. Im here right now. Its an ocean of utterly repulsive normalfaggots in any place accessible a 2 hour drive from an airport.

>>2868234
It's pretty normal to be a millionaire by 40 in the usa. You would have to deliberately sabotage your own life to not accomplish that meager goal.

Normal for white people that is.

>>2868399
Whom do you expect to actually believe this garbage? The average mutt is desperately scrabbling to afford food and shelter while even a basic education will indebt you for life.

I'm happy for you for you that you accidentally won the crypto lottery, but everyone can still tell that you're a loser.

>>2868174
>Most dudes my age
>Balding or bald.
I'm literally your age and don't know a single guy who is balding or bald. Less than 20% of men are affected in their thirties statistically. Where the fuck does this meme come from lmao

>>2868399
Yeah it is quite common, but most American richfags these days came from money, so it was nigh effortless for them to keep building on what they already had when they turned 18. For the working class it's very different. If you bust ass for what you have, damn right you're gonna want to enjoy the fruits of your labor in the very near future. Or hell, you're gonna go into debt so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor before you even do the work.

I quit my job every year to live at leisure and spend the fruits of my labor. That's how little faith I have in the future.
>>2868396
This is utterly and completely untrue. The reason you always end up around normie tourists in SEA is because you're a normie tourist yourself who follows the same herd-sourced recommendations from an AI chatbot or your favorite travel reddit that everybody else is following.

Ye. I am late 20s and did this in Japan. Feels good shagging a chick you know some lonely loser will end up with, treating her like his world.

>>2868409
You're some seething third world monkey, which is why you believe Russian and chinese propaganda on the internet.
In reality Americans are casually and obscenely wealthy compared to the rest of the world if they do literally anything for a living besides work min wage entry level jobs.
I hate to break it to you, but we run this shit. The world, that is.
Crypto is only 20% of my net worth. The rest of are simply stocks I invested in, when I was 20-35, and normal growth of the American stock market.
If you happen to be a white American also (which I doubt), and failed to participate in the most powerful economic and wealth creation engine in human history, then you are simply a fucking retard.

>>2868760
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-10-earners-drive-nearly-191500198.html

>>2868745
Pretty much. Inheritance for some and not losing your job. (Their parents not losing their jobs is how the inheretance was made in the first place.)
The problems... Are that they keep... Bla bla... Firing everyone.

I made a post in the african thread about petrodollar. /biz/ talks about it. What happens is inflation is you paying off your white masters debts from the 1950s. Then you have idiots like>>2868760 who keep perpetrating this because they appear to benefit in the short term. When in reality more and more high earners will keep losing their jobs because of the damage of these selfish narcissistic malignant ideas. So they won't even have valuables for their grandchildren to inherit.
"The replacement theory" is literally what this guy wants. They perpetrate the system without even understanding it. To their own detriment.

The best way to actually fuck and not just “party” is always going to be isolating them on a date. Either meeting in person or on apps. Girls have anti slut defense to not go home with you at a club plus logistical issues. They’ll use you for free drinks, validation, make out at best, then gone and forgotten once the drunken haze wears off

So to actually casually date and fuck a 35 is basically at prime age. 18-25 year olds are totally on the table in Asia, South America, Eastern Europe

>>2868769
>every part of Asia is flooded with young guys chasing young girls
>35 is prime for 18-25
yeah ok unc
i'm sure they'll choose you over the younger competition

>>2867607
>>2868174
Kek are you the guy who wasted his inheritance in Thailand simping for hookers and now you're working as a security guard and incel again? Why don't you just settle down wife up a homely Isaan girl and bring her back to the states?

>>2869674
Coping zoomer pretends to not know how women work, especially outside the west. Girls want Daddy to dick them with experience. They don’t want broccoli haired feminine zoomers even close to their age who splooge their pants before entry

15 + year age gaps are normal, especially if you’re white. Even a zoomer Chad is limited in his selection, so a 23 yo Chad only gets girls younger than him. A 35 yo can gets everyone, because they’re all younger than him. The biggest ick for girls is dating guys at/near the same age

A trained/well kept 35 yo also looks better than a trained 23 yo who is boyish with no time to build as much muscle. Not to mention the biggest factor: status/wealth difference between generations

This thread has so much coping. You're older, and no, you're not Brad Pitt. You're not looking better but being aged out every single day.
>>2868769
Instagram game is probably the best. Even on dating Apps if you're past a certain age you will not have the same exposure. Most 18 to 23 year old women have a hard cap that is as low as 25 and as high as 29. Very few chicks will have their age range set above that. I remember some dude .org testing the difference between something like 27 and 23 in terms of exposure and it was like day and night. Even if you're older and hot 90% of the women you want won't even see you just because of how filters work.
>>2869840
You retards keep coping with some outdated memes about zoomers (who the has broccoli cut these days) but he is completely right. Women by far prefer men in their own age cohort and studies back it up where women prefer 3 to 5 years older at max. Youth in itself is insanely attractive. It's the world's biggest cope, on par with the idea that women don't care much about looks, height or dick size, to say that they don't desire youth. They absolutely do. Just because an older Chad is an exception to this or you've seen some anecdote doesn't change this.

Women want a young, tall and fit stud with a big cock.

Literally.

If they are ovulating they will imagine this.

Not some ageing 37 year old with "muh money" copes posting from 4chan of all the places lmao.

The fact that you think muscle size matters at all just shows how redpilled and delusional you are.

BTW OP is 100% baiting and fair play to him, this board is mostly oldcels who can't stand anyone telling them that they're old and it's not a good thing lmao

I've got 8 legitimate kids and several more illegitimate. All the mothers were 16-20 when they got pregnant, except for the aunt of one of them who was 30.
I was age 30-40 when I accomplished this mass breeding. I am 42 now.
I know what ovulating teenagers want. Not you. You don't have a clue. Don't talk unless you did it. Don't speculate, don't repeat what you heard from someone else who didnt do it. I did it. Let me tell you what ovulating young women want:
They want big, strong, safe and secure Daddy with total privacy and plausible deniability (no gossip about their behavior possible). They want to be told they were brought over to get knocked up. They want to be pinned down and physically dominated in bed, and get absolutely piped down and have their guts re-arranged by big daddy cock. They need to orgasm from deep pussy stimulation in their anterior/posterior fornix regions, which only big cock can do.
They want to be held down, cock still inside, full of a tangibly large load of cum, and to be told they are going to be a mom now. Their brains melt. Some dont melt quite right and have a freakout later, but most that is exactly what they want to hear. She will be yours from that point forward, until you actually accomplish the deed.
They want "Daddy" to knock them up. Fulfill the role correctly and they come back for more, forever.

The long term consequences vary since the pair bonding /brain chemistry is different in every circumstance, but when it comes to pure animal instinct, young women seek established patriarchs and respond like a primate does, because that is what we are.
>wouldn't daddy be 50+?
No. 50+ is geriatric for our species. Just because we live longer now doesnt mean its normal in nature. 50+ is grandpa.

What women think they want, and say they want, has no basis in reality and does not represent what they actually want, especially when they are pre-ovulation or actively ovulating.

Everything boils down to giving the woman the opportunity to visit you without alerting her family/friends/social group that she is trying to get dick from an older man who is nearly a total stranger.
Every woman wants to be 'swept away' in the power and virility of an older man with an impossibly large power gap between them.
That is what they want instinctively.
Modern courtship ideas/interpersonal relations are all based of of what women think they want or what they say they want. But women do not know what they actually want or need, and would never admit to it anyways even if they were aware.
Women crave hypergamy in pursuit of the ultimate mate. The man who will inseminate her while she is fertile. If you present yourself as a mate, not a """"partner"""" or boyfriend or other fake and gay shit made up by Christians and feminists, thats how you get prime teen pussy.

The consequences for this behavior will be vast and will last essentially a lifetime since you will be creating more humans and lots of angry moms that you didnt "step up" to be her pseudo-husband forever just because she wanted to get creampied, but most of those consequences can be avoided with more primate behavior: Getting the fuck out when the nagging starts, and letting the beta males step in for your sloppy seconds and to try and reproduce with the single mom.

You can post your cope if you want now. My newesr teenage fuckmeat is coming over to stay the night after having ate dinner with her family, and you can be sure im going to dump a raw load in her and then cuddle her up against me and hold her there for a hour or so while my sperm have time to get in there, before she can wash it out. She knows how babies are made. She knows what can happen. She's going to do it any ways because she loves daddy dick, and she loves coming her brains out while a man more than twice her size in kg ravishes her body. Is it stupid? Yes. Is she doing it anyways? Yes.

>>2869906
>>2869908
This might be one of the biggest larps that I've ever read while browsing this shithole for years. Genuinely consider suicide you tremendous faggot.

You can talk about social media all you want. Dating apps. Statistics. Etc. But its all cope.
I did it. Multiple times. I've got two different states and two different countries after me for child support.
Dating apps are a humiliation ritual where you are sacrificed on the altar of the algorithm.
Even in the midst of my full on harem situations, I occasionally checked dating apps for a laugh. Blown out nubile teen sleeping bed next to me exhausted from a session, but the algorithm feeding me fat women and trannies. Its Jewish shit. Its fake, and gay.
Its not real. Its just not. The only use dating apps have is to get socials, and then begin forming a network of her younger friends and siblings.

Match with the fat single moms. Get their Facebook. Then message her young cousins or sister. Or have a nice social page and let them come to you. Thats how you actually play the game.
I almost never fuck off a dating app. Just find women in my area, then use them as a starting point for a network.

>>2869909
You are the betamale after my scraps. Go forth and court the single moms and be a good little cuck and raise my kids.
I already won the game. This was just advice for pitiful retards who actually think women or other unfucked males are giving them actionable info.

>>2869915
Please get professional help before you end up in those pedophile catcher shows.

>>2867670
>they
>their
You're a sad old fuck pretending to be "hip" to impress youngsters and you deserve to be alone

>>2869906
>>2869908
Based and redpilled

>>2869906
>>2869908
Based colonizer

>>2869891
Nah you’re all cope. Anyone’s idea of the ideal man is in his 30s with the combination of experience, health, wealth, status, maturity, virility, and looks at the optimal time. Not a retarded swag fag with a cross earring parroting TikTok slang

No one has a wider range of access to pussy domestically and globally than a man in his 30s anything else is cope

>>2869949
Keep telling yourself your best days are to come. Men peak at 40. You're definitely going to be banging 18 year old chicks left and right any minute now. Don't ever get up. Follow your dreams. You can do anything you want, I promise you.

>>2869953
If all you care about is having sex like an animal then sure, you peak at 22. You're obviously either a teenager or a Chad wannabe incel who never go it out of his system

>>2869962
This whole thread is about having sex with young women and partying lmao. Yeah sure you'll make more money when you're older but you can make money anytime in life. Youth and what you can experience with it is invaluable. You can cope about your peak being later just because you have more numbers in your bank account but by far no one gives a shit and even Bezos would give up his wealth empire to be reborn as an attractive Chad.

>>2869963
I doubt it because he found his higher calling in life and is past being a coombrained degenerate like you

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>>2869966
Being an oofy doody husband to some plastic monstrosity... way to go.

Pic related fate of all the careermaxxers itt.
>imagine being one of the wealthiest and most influential men on planet only to get disrespected because you can't cheat your subhuman genetics
B-but m-muh masculine virility, maturity and s-stability!!1

>>2869968
>H-hea an oofy doify because his wife is hugging man at a social event and looking up at him because he's way taller than her? And she's SMILING!
Are you retarded? This is just basic social skills, stop reading into it so much.

He could buy a harem of 10,000 10/10 18 year olds and never fuck the same woman in his lifetime, but you're trying to downplay what he has (because you ain't got shit). Kek. Literal brain damage

>>2869970
I bet your girlfriend does that shit too and that's how you cope fag LMAO

If someone like Bezos fucked a bunch of 18 year olds it would leak 100% and he'd be called a nonce by everyone
Then his plastic bimbo wife would divorce rape him

Keep coping buddy boys
Your life will begin at 45 when you're at peak trust

>>2869953
>>2869962
You’re both wrong and responding to different people

A 32 yo can bang the entire spectrum of women in their teens, 20s and 30s.
A 22 yo is limited to basically 18-21 because girls universally find men the same age or older the ick. A 22 yo is seen as a baby to 90% of fuckable women who are off the table. Additionally, zoomer men probably live at home or with roommates and are logistically handicap to even have a place to fuck. The factors stacked against them far outweigh the minority of women who don’t like age gaps

30s are better for men for quantity of sex and quality relationships.

>>2869972
Why do you keep falsely equivocating a 30 something to a 40, 45, Jeff bezos aged man? Will you next equate a 30 yo to an 80 yo? Disingenuous coper who’s not fooling anyone with your Jewish dishonesty

>>2869972
You're pushing 40 and still thinking like a teenager. Listen to your hero Clavicular speak at length on a podcast, he doesn't even enjoy fucking. Once you gooners "ascend" it's all about the power trip and ego, like getting as high of a body count as possible.

>>2869980
Because he's a wannabe Chad who's still chasing the pussy carrot on a stick. He doesn't actually think being an average male failing to get laid at the club 9/10 nights is better than being an established male, it's just a coping mechanism

>established male
>peaking at 30s
>having a harem of 16 year olds supposedly
>all the while posting on 4chan
>thinking their shitty 9-5 is better than being a famous streamer just because he is "gay"

What the fuck I am reading
I hope jannies nuke this thread and all those within

>having an intellectual debate about human sexuality despite being an uncel with no hope of getting any without paying
Kek

>>2869991
Paypigs are the most delusional type of men I shit you not. You'll see complete subhuman incels in places like Pattaya who think they're some kind of players because they can pay some jungle gook goblins to fuck while they're being bled dry. I could hardly contain my shit when talking to these idiots IRL over a couple of beers. It's even more funny when they'll call them "girlfriends" and will get a call IRL requesting money for some bullshit and they'll happily oblige.

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>>2869989
>t. failure to launch peter pan syndrome minimum wagie

>>2870032
I guess I am never growing up because I refuse to get full time wage slave job. I work seasonally, half a year, and then travel for rest of the year or pursue whatever I'm interested in my free time. Every time I speak to someone who has no time at all to do what they want and hate their job I want to kill myself by proxy.

>>2870040
So you choose to work minimum wage for pennies and retire in a cardboard box instead of maximizing the value of your labor and/or finding a form of labor that allows you to travel. Is that actually a choice or were you forced into it?

cope containment thread

>>2870049
>pennies
NTA, but I net $3000 a month working "minimum wage" seasonal grunt work in America. Monday to Friday, 40 hours a week. That's the average after tax salary of a lifetime career slave in Europoor countries, kek. Money shortage has never been a problem for me.

>>2870071
If hes only working six months a year that's less than minimum wage.

>>2870049
>>2870074
I don't get paid that little. I don't make a ton but I definitely make more than enough for what I do. There's better paid seasonal work available but I really fuck with the place where I'm at. I'm not sure why you're coping about my finances when I'm free to do whatever I want for most of the year. Even while working the shoulder season is me mostly sitting on my thumbs and doing nothing. It gets busy during the peak but I prefer it as I get paid for every single extra hour that I'm there. I have very little stress in my day to day life. I dont think I'd trade it for even a similar position that paid more if it meant more stress. For long term happiness feeling chilled out and free is very important IMHO.

>Western women
>are massive sluts but also have super high standards, only going for top 20% of guys

>Eastern women
>lower standards but also super trad and won't do anything sexual until at least 5 dates and meeting parents
>the rest are either prostitutes or scammers

It's over
Seriously, where in the world can an average guy travel for casual one night stands with no commitment earned through rizz alone, just like a regular Chads?

>>2870078
To depths of some African shitholes probably. It's over for the average schmuck.

>>2870014
Fuck India and fuck brokies

>>2870078
Fuck off incel dork

>>2869925
Fuck off zoomer gender youngster loser. Get ready for your Iran conscription

>>2870078
#1 Philippines
#2 rest of South east Asia
#3 South America

Africa/india who knows or cares

>>2869908
Where do you find these chicks and how do you court them?

>>2870077
>For long term happiness feeling chilled out and free is very important IMHO.
This dude understands.
I was an air traffic controller for 10 years. Mandatory 10 hour days due to staffing issues and a break room full of malingering browns and women who can't do the job but show up because they cannot be fired. They "worked" 2 hours a day in the slowest assist positions, then we're never seen again. Meanwhile capable men like me were forced to work the busiest sectors all day every day, getting paid the same as the worthless brown/foid chaff.
I've never been so stressed out in my life, I developed anxiety and extreme anger issues, and crashed out.
Wasn't worth it.

>>2870104
Im not interested in helping you get laid with a step by step guide, but I will give you this important wisdom.

Always remember that women dont know what they want.
So tell women what to do. The less work their brain has to do, the wetter her pussy will get, and faster too.

>>2870114
Lmao
Remember when you buy American products or services this is what you're supporting

>>2870115
What would be an example of "telling women what to do"?
Are you interested in sharing more wisdom and stories?

>>2867607
lol this is the saddest thread on /trv/ in months

you’re just another 35yo balding loner who flew to Thailand to pay triple for pussy and still got called “grandpa” by 18y/os who were texting their Thai boyfriend the whole time

all the “crypto millionaire” “I have 8 kids from 16 year old teens” “big daddy cock re-arranges guts” degenerates in here typing this shit from their sweaty Pattaya hotel room at 4am after another night of humiliation

just stay home and touch grass instead of becoming some lonely Thai cuck larper

>>2870182
Ricecel cope. With enough time, I could literally bang every single woman in southeast asia. I just got back from a short trip and banged 11 high tier gooks with little effort as an above average white male. I also colonized China and Japan, though the casual dating culture is less favorable there.

Also, Thai hookers who fuck 1000+ white boomers in their life have microdick Thai cuck boyfriends, and this is a flex?

>>2870182
I'm 32 but have perfect skin and youthful looks. I can pass for mid twenties easily. I'm getting tons of matches and dates with Thai cuties, even a few 20 year olds. You just have to smile and not be a weird fuck

>>2870185
Prove it dork, I don't think people who can pull like that talk the way you talk. LARP

>>2870188
Only thing you pathetic retard colonized is the inside of a gas station condom, you paid for disease ridden pussy 19yos give their Thai BF for free then came back to larp as Genghis while flexing "perfect skin at 32" like an actual retard

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>>2870192
>>2870195
>le proof

Comments like this and the bedsheets ruined after every gook bitch. Now cope

>Thai BF get for free
Lmao holy shit how disconnected are you from reality? You're bragging that a ricedick is the cuck to a diseased prostitute? In the real, non-sex worker world, asian girls give it up to bwc for nothing, while a ricecel has to put in maximum effort with money/gifts/dates and commit to a relationship for any hope to get laid. There's no such thing as a woman who lusts for ricedick, they may only settle with who puts in enough effort, almost like a gay friend who makes them feel emotionally validated and provided for. There's no such thing, globally, as an ricecel who has casual sex

Whites get it for nothing, while asians pay full price and dedicate their entire life for bwc sloppy seconds.

>>2870199
>screenshots from your last trip of a hooker gaming you to pay up more
Like I said, you talk like an incel so there's no way you actually have game to pull

>>2870200
You’d see sex tapes and live date footage and you’d still cope. Sad ricecel in denial. Your cope lifeline is the delusion that everyone who goes to SEA is a fat boomer who pays for sex, when reality is that average white guys casually fuck normal girls easily. Get back to work so you can provide for your gf who’s been ran through by whites

>>2870211
>I showed one screen cap of two texts that's proof bro!
Kek, no it's not. There's a million LARPers on this board and you're just another one

>>2870211
lol he actually thinks anyone not supporting his delusions is a chink
I hope they get you for all the child hookers you fucked you absolute degenerate

>>2870200
Incelspeak has become normalized among young zoomers, but if he's over thirty this is probably a valid suspicion.

>>2870199
>this is huge
dick stats? I want to know girth specifically

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Being into Asian women is a mental illness. Even the best looking gook gets brutally mogged by random white girl working for Starbucks. Imagine preferring jungle gooks (of all the Asians they're somehow even more subhuman than the rest) to something like this. If you can't pull someone like this it never began for you. You have never ever truly lived if you haven't had a girl like this show pure, undiluted lust for you.

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Uhh bros do you think my girlfriend is legit? I've heard that water buffalo get sick often.

>>2870263
Kek

Better LARP next time fag

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>>2870266
I'm 37 and she says I look 17
I get carded all the time in states
I'm also a male model but that was before my crypto millions
I pass for early 20s realistically so that's why I get a lot of messages from Thai cuties

From my experience in the developed world
1. Looks
2. Access
3. Game
4. Status
5. Money

Money doesn't matter almost at all in the developed world, nobody gaf what your car is or that you're a CFO from a multinational company. Money only enhances/multiplies the positive things about you. If you're still ugly out of shape and bald it doesn't matter much unless you get a purely transactional gold digger relationship.

A broke fitness trainer or bartender will have 10x success in dating than a rich dude grinding it out in corporate who is only around dudes, destroyed his looks by stress, shitty food and is balding. He will put the girl on pedestal that the broke fitness gym bro dumped for another girl on his roster.

Guys, don't be a goy and destroy your vitality and youthfulness for your corporate overlord.

>>2870269
No way youre 37. Maybe 20 max. Don't fuck with us bro.

>>2870129
Sure I guess.
Basically, you just bring them along with whatever you want to do that day
>we are doing this and going here, bring s day pack with water and some granola bars
>we are going to this dog Cafe today
>im going to go see movie at (time), come with me
>im taking a trip to (small island accessible by ferry), we leave at 8am, so be at my apartment by 7am
Tell her what to do. Tell her the plan. Do things you personally want to do, and make her an accessory to the activity. Never base an activity off what a woman wants to do.
The caveat is if she specifically asks you first, indicating she wants to do something with you. But she has to initiate it.
Never ever ask a woman what she wants to do.

In terms of daily interaction its also straightforward if you follow the rule.
Never say
>I feel like
>do you want
>will you

Say
>come here
>stop that
>take this
Direct statements that leave no room for interpretation or thinking.

The whole point is to establish yourself as her patriarch, and most women prefer it. The ones who don't want it are trouble and if they fuss let them loose, never simp for a woman just because you didnt get to try her pussy.

When it comes to evening routine, you just tell them to come over
>I just took a shower after the gym, come over
>I just finished dinner, come over
>Im going to watch a movie, come over
If your physical relationship is well established
>come over, I want to fuck you
>let's fuck
>come here and get on my cock

This sounds cringe, but its how women actually want to be communicated with by men they are legitimately attracted to.
If she gives you shit or brushes you off too often, then guess what? She's not actually into you, and has ulterior motives. So cut her loose. Its good to figure that out sooner or later.

If you want to fuck her after meeting her the first time you can just say so. You can adjust your verbiage as needed for how down she seems.

>I like you, let's skip the rest of the date and go fuck.
>Come see my apartment, its nearby
And the old reliable, if she's looking bored
>This place is lame. Lets go fuck.

Because if you are meeting young women especially teenagers, what they really just want to do is fuck. They dont want a date. They want their back blown out, and then to get back to browsing tiktok or whatever.
Some of these retarded zoomettes will even want to be ON their phone while you fuck them, which I personally think is kind of hot in a weird way, watching them lose their composure or fuck up in a mobile legends match and get reported by their team for throwing, because she cannot concentrate due to being deep dicked.

Tl;dr if a non white woman talks to you online and agrees to meet you in person, she is hoping it leads to sex. So you can offer it after the initial pleasantries are done, and you detect she doesnt care about getting to know you or enjoying the venue.

No the cock shock thing is real. My current girl is 150cm and 37kg. Very small.
The first time she saw my fully hard cock she looked amazed and compared it to her wrist and forearm, and it was about as thick as her wrist. She proclaimed it wont fit and that she was going to die. So I said "oh well, good way to die", and put it in her.
After a few sessions, she can now sit down on it fully while riding on top and get herself off as much as she wants in a row before her body gives up.

She's in love with my cock and pets it through my pants when we are out together, or in elevators. Thats just how women are when you actually know how to lay pipe and make them come. They worship you and are affectionate towards you.

If the women you have been with dont act like that towards you? You arent fucking her properly.

>>2869839
Yep, that’s me

>>2870368
>This sounds cringe, but its how women actually want to be communicated with by men they are legitimately attracted to.

Yeah I need to remind myself that they dont comprehend it the same way I do
Thanks for the breakdown

Any advice on cold approaching and getting their number initially or do you usually do this via text on social media?
"Hey you look like my sisters friend"

>>2870386
You can cold approach anywhere in the world.
Just say
>hey you are cute, I'd like to meet you, my name is Anon
Don't block a woman in or get in her way, approach from diagonally in her field of view, dont invade her personal space, if she smiles back step a bit closer.
Once again, you are looking for women who want to meet men. If she doesnt like this or doesnt like you, you will know it straight away. Women know if they will fuck a man within 10-15 seconds of meeting him.
If she makes eye contact and smiles, you can probably fuck her if you play the game correctly. If she acts shy or evasive or bothered or anything but eye contact+smile, just give her the old
>okay have a nice day
And leave.

Its really that simple. Men just dont do it because they are retarded pussies these days, and the only ones who do do it are so retarded they dont know they are undesirable (ie indians).

If you see her walking approaching you dont stand in her path. Just stop, stand where you are and smile at look at her. If she stops to look at you, its the signal that she wants to be approached. If she refuses to look at you or carries on, also no chance she's into you.
Women can detect 'potential mates' literally in their peripheral vision. If she doesnt register your build/posture/look on your face as worthy of beginning courtship, she wont even stop.

I cant give you a full play by play, but if youre just farming contacts all you do is introduce yourself and get her socials.

Online game is essentially the same but digital.

Friendly intro, gauge response. Determine personality/desires, pic your moves.

My only bit of setup advice is have a story /backstory and stick to it in the location you are in. If these women know each other and find out you are not consistent about basic stuff like your supposed job or nationality, it can ruin your network.

So basically treat it like an RPG, and you are playing a new character each time you 'go again'.

>this sounds really basic and simple
It is. Primate psychology isnt that complicated. You dont need to make it complicated.
You just need to do it. The hardest part starting out is learning to handle rejection or being ignored entirely, especially by the women you are personally very attracted to.
If you can get over the rejection hurdle, the only limit you have is your personal energy level and tolerance for female behavior.

This isnt pick up artist advice. Its stuff our fathers should have explained to us, but they didnt, because they were probably deracinated, feminized tax cattle, if they are boomer generation or Gen x.

You can't find a single poster on 4chan who can legitimately say their fathers coached them on how to meet and attract women. Instead, you will find that most of us had dads who said to "respect women" and always "ask permission".

Go hit on the mid chicks, go flirt with a chubby asian girl, hell go seduce a mid chubby for practice.
Women are fun and cute and nice to talk to once you get comfortable doing it. They love men who can confidently talk to them befriend them and also fuck their brains out. You will have an amazing life once you stop fearing interaction with women, and instead view it as an exciting opportunity and a game.
So just go do it.

I already won the game, and I started by just going and forcing myself to do it.

This last part will probably hurt the most but bear with me.
If you spend several hours a day playing video games, you probably arent going to fuck unless youve got your digital harem set up and operating.
If you want to get some shit done in your life and learn the very important skill of habdling women, then drop the gaming addiction for awhile.
Use that spare time to grind other shit irl be it fitness/health/diet, or actively being out there interacting with people.

You cut out the gaming time youre already above a huge cohort of absolute fucking slob retards who are wasting their lives zonked out with the Bing Bing wahoo.

If you want those monke results you need to do the monke stuff, and monke doesnt play vidya.

Bros writing essays about being a casanova when he's paying hookers in Thailand jfl

Only on trv

If you have a ton of money to blow on nightlife and prostitutes, sure. But travel is not the best way to live it up. Just move to the best nightlife city in your country and establish yourself there. Get to know the nightlife workers, frequenters, and bartenders. Even better if you can be some of note professionally but that’s not even necessary. You’ll get to party with sluts and all that simply if you’re a cool guy in the nightlife, media, modeling, fashion, etc. scene.

>>2870405
Seething incel stuck at home

>>2870412
I am at home and I have sex with non prostitutes that also happen to be European. I'd kill myself if I had to resort to being a sex pest in a third world country. See >>2870260.

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What do you choose?

Whores with STDs that look like they were made with TES Oblivion character sliders...

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...or cute beckies that won't charge a dime and will come with you to hotel room after a fun night out?

Oh wait...

There is no choice.

You're an incel.

You've never got anything back home and you never had any choice in the matter. As Saint Hamudi said: if you have no hair you have no life. Norwood reaper beckons you to Thailand, Philippines...

>>2870389
>>2870391
>>2870392
>>2870393
>>2870411
Here's a YouTube video of how this would look IRL if youre not the one to read walls of essays

https://youtu.be/zSUQWgSnAnA?is=slc-BvtzzgTVlKBv

>>2870434
>Norwood reaper beckons you to Thailand
Meanwhile Thai women hate bald men lmao you dumbass bitch

>>2870452
Every woman, black, white, Chinese, hates balding men. It's just SEA is great for paypigs because Thailand is pretty much an open air brothel. It's still cheap. This is also why sexpests are the ones who are the most sensitive about prices going up because if it happens enough they will be priced out. For normies like me it doesn't matter because a short holiday is still cheap in Thailand, but for some balding subhuman is brutally over that their Thai "girlfriend" needs more money for water buffalo...

>>2870393
After all these years of pickup artists, red pillers, and maxxers somehow people still don’t understand that looks, money, and status are how you attract women. Gaming is completely fucking irrelevant. The only reason it kinda sorta matters in any way is in so far as it inhibits looks, money, or status.

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>>2870480
Its over for Cavill

>>2870480
Nah, depending on the location, game can make a really big difference because after all 95% of the time you have to make the moves or atleast understand the subtle communication of a girl. This is especially in western countries the case, where there's alot of hard to catch games being played and girls are very aloof, and sensitive to bad game.

Game is much less important outside of western developed countries.

Of course the better you look and the higher status you have, the less game is required. But unless you have a international celebrity status, you'll absolutely have to run some sort of game and having none means you don't even understand what moves a girl expects you to do in a certain moment because she won't tell you directly.
But again, this is for western countries.

>>2870496
Nta
Ive lived in Europe all of my life ive literally never had any game or strategy whatsoever beyond existing
Like I've been so stupidly autistic, dumb and the opposite of some kind of an alpha masculine type in front of women and I still got laid while the girl was doing 90% of work
I'm decently tall, I got a good face and I'm young
I feel like game and everything else is completely made up shit
All the guys who I know who slayed a lot had good looks and natural confidence that comes from constant positive reinforcement

I cheated once and was talking to this girl completely friendly like told her I got a gf ill be seeing soon but she still ended up inviting me for drinks and she sucked my dick after
That was after I gave every indication I'm taken and I acted in the most onions, beta way

Confidence etc. matters more for social interactions at a broader level but I feel like sex, relationships and hook ups is 99% your appearance
I feel like every time I tried talking to a girl I could tell she had made up her mind if she will fuck me in the first five seconds of having checked me out

Granted I'm not autistic and I act very normal IRL

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>>2870470

I'm bald and got lots of pussy in China. What now

>>2870503
Asians are significantly worse looking than Europeans. JBW is carrying you. Asia is probably the last place in the world (ok maybe Africa is on the table) where an average looking white guy still has some kind of genuine female attention. Anywhere in the West looks have gone up so much 80% of men are not truly competitive

>>2870499
Well I think we're talking about the same thing, you call it confidence, I call it game.
What I mean with game isn't trying to turn around a girl that absolutely doesn't want you, rather saying the right things in the right moments, knowing when and how to escalate, being true to yourself, recognizing chances, not being needy, being able to put her in her place and not saying retarded shit.
There's alot of stuff that happened between you meeting her and her sucking your dick, but you're a natural so it's like breathing for you. Even just going up to her and chat her up is already game for me too. Not being needy, not overly flirty, confident but not arrogant... You can absolutely fuck up your chances very quickly if you don't know how to talk.
Consider yourself lucky in this regard, because most dudes are just clueless.

>>2870503
When and where?
China changes alot in the last 10 years, first when Xi took power and then after covid.
I think being white now in China is even more exotic than it was 10 years ago for example, when it was kind of hip for students and workers to go stay in China for a year or so, so there were more foreigners there and the xenophobia was much lower I suppose.

>>2870496
Game is bullshit dude. What people call game is actually just the vibe that people have which signals social proof and prestige. If you are somebody, you can talk to people easily. Thats why people seem to think “game” exists. They confuse the fruits of the thing that attracts with women with the thing that attracts women. But more to the point, women decide in 5 seconds when they meet a man whether she’d fuck him or not. They decide based on looks, money, that vibe, and especially social proof. You could be ass ugly but if you’re a cool DJ playing in nightclubs you will get prime girls. You could totally broke, but if you’re hot and fun, they’ll get with you. You could be a total loner but if you’re rich and hot, they’ll be into you. It’s looks, money, and social proof that attracts women. It doesn’t necessarily keep them or give you what you want, but it’s what brings women to your table at all in the first place. And that’s really all it comes down to. If you’re ugly, broke, and a loner, no amount of “game” is going to make women want to fuck you.

>>2870389
Thanks for the breakdown.
If you have any general understanding and knowledge about how women act and operate, that would be great

One of my understandings is to build trust and connection and when they are ovulating they will text you "hey" and then you basically invite them to fuck asap.
These last few years ive been lacking approaching and finding women, mostly because i want to find a good one to knock up a few times and stick with

>>2869925
Nobody is trying to "be hip and fit in with youngsters" you pathetic mutant.

>>2870543
I agree to a certain degree.
You underestimate how retarded and autistic some dudes can be to fuck up easy hook ups.
The things you mentioned are the foot in the door. You still have to talk smooth to a certain degree. Sometimes more sometimes less. The lower your standards the less it matters.

>>2870757
There's a difference between being slightly awkward (which doesn't really matter if youre ok looking, girls thinks its cute if a hot guy is shy) and genuine neurodivergence. The latter is debilitating in every social situation, not just wheen hooking up and romance. Some diagnosed autist won't learn "game", which, even assuming it works, runs on being able to read body language and social cues. Autists are blind to that shit. Some of the shit in game is genuinely weird and convuluted gaslighting trying to make the girl feel insecure and that shit is genuinely completely unnecessary. These autists think they can "neg" a hot girl who has had nothing but positive reinforcement all her life and has nearly endless choice for mates. It's just all so stupid and convoluted no wonder why it died out and only Indians and other 3rd worlders take this shit seriously as they're always years behind West. The reason why it's so convoluted is that they used to sell courses to idiots and to make it compelling to buy it had to look like there's secrets and insider knowledge. In reality it's incredibly straightforward and once you understand this youre so much freer.

What genuinely works is being exposed to social situations. Anyone with normally wired brain quickly picks upon social ques, how to pace conversations, etc. Some awkward dude will learn more about talking to girls just by travelling and staying in hostels over reading some PUA autistic ebook.

>>2870392
Great advice. One of the most successful guys I know (in terms of women) will hit on any female regardless of what they look like. I've seen him flirt with 18 year old hotties and 45 year old obese divorcees.

Im ugly and I get lots of sex by being nice to women and wearing clothing that shows the outline of my large cock.
If I had a small cock I dont think I would get any sex at all.
I was a real ogre looking autistic retard in high-school, but thanks for forced swim classes everyone at the school found out I had a huge cock and tons of girls wanted to see it. The whole situation became almost manga like since I my little sister also was always bringing over her friends for sleepovers and shit.
Literally the only thing I was known for was having a big cock, so I was "so and sos brother who has the horsecock".
I did not appreciate the things that happened to me at the time. Female attention focused entirely on seeing and playing with my (I thought at the time disgusting) huge penis, was very scary first and foremost.
It took almost until I was 30 for me to understand that women were not trying to make fun of me or hurt my feelings by showing attention to me (my cock), and that they genuinely wanted a ride and to get the "ugly bastard with a huge cock experience". Remember, I am autistic.
Something clicked upstairs and I was suddenly able to leverage my singular genetic gift contrasted by my genetic curse to seduce women.
A few years of hypersexuality sort of cured my social autism and fear of women.

But something interesting happened.

As I "self improved", dressed nicer and cleaned myself up, I was no longer totally disgusting fat ugly monster. I tried to act normal and respectful instead of autistically focused on showing my huge cock to women and telling them they should suck it or worship it.
The attention dried up. Almost entirely. I didnt understand. I still had the big cock, but 'ugly' but at least clean cut and normal acting man was attached to it. I wasnt even that fat anymore.

I was healthier and felt better physically, but mentally I was destroyed by the attention stopping. (Cont)

So basically I spiraled down again. Got fat, retarded from playing MMOs for 12 hours a day, gooning to nasty shit, put on all the weight I had lost. Basically devolved to my starting point as a bridge troll.

I stopped caring really, and just began showing my grotesque unwashed large size hog to women on snapchat/kik/soc/reddit anywhere really. The amount of attention I got from homosexuals was amazing(ly annoying), but the amount of female attention thirsting over my gross body + dick was astonishing.
In my mentally ruined state I simply began demanding things and acting like an animal, and women online just did whatever I said. I even have a "viral" 'Fat step dad cock slaps you and degrades you asmr' video out there, fortunately my face isnt in it.
I began acting like this IRL.
Two things happen.
1) I wound up on probation with a sex offender registry entry (still on it)
2) a new phase of hypersexuality was entered for several years, with women wanting to be degraded and 'destroyed' by me, and it just kept happening
So I spent awhile just overeating, playing video games, and treating women like shit while fucking them like a pig or beast and crushing them under me. They needed it. They kept coming back for more.
Eventually I became so obese that I couldn't properly fuck or sustain an erection and the lifestyle sort of ended.
Anyways a few years after that I finally got treatment cbt/meds and thanks to peptide shots im down to a healthy-feelijg weight again. Im burned out and my libido isnt what it used to be, but Im now able to actually reflect on my life and ordeal.

What does this mean for you? Well it means that you dont understand what women want, probably. They dont care about appearance when it comes to taking raw loads from a near stranger. They just want to feel 'raped'. They want to feel overpowered, used, and degraded, but also forced to come by a monster cock.

The trifecta of 'caveman retarded' 'grotesque' 'huge cock' is basically irresistible when it comes to their hypergamy needs.
My behavior towards them was the correct type of dangerous that gave them the mental thrill that they were not 'safe' in my presence. My body type though repulsive objectively, was also massively larger than them, which is something they need for the common fantasy, and the monster cock was the thing that tied it all together.
Women love monster cocks attached to monsters. Im sure they love big cocks on attractive men also, but everyone knows and understands that concept already.
I too am nearing 40 now and thanks to meds/trt therapy and actual exercise just so I feel mobile and better, I think I am actually sane again. It was like waking up from a weird long terrible yet thrilling at times nightmare.

Its a waking nightmare also, because my insecurity is now layered in multiple ways.
>do women want me just for my cock?
>will she ever like me as a person, or just as her stupid rape fantasy?
>does she spend time with me because she knows im just going to get bored and then fuck her?
>can I afford to be nice to her without ruining her perception of me as a retarded fuckbeast she can use/get used by?
I have never experienced actual love and probably never will.

Your takeaway from this is pretty simple: women will fuck whatever they think will give them the best possible orgasm based on what is available. Women dont actually want to be treated well in bed or maybe in private. Your "pristine" 20 year old college asian girl you are after might be going over to a fat bastards apartment several times a week to be 'crushed' by him, since she has a fetish for monster rape.

Anyways, fuck my life.

Tl;dr lean into your gimmick, whatever it may be. If you have any genetic gift at all, you can and should highlight it as an 'experience' women can try. Lots of sex and female attention wont actually make you happy.

>>2870260
girls who look like that are chad only

>>2871099
>>2871100
I noticed that this isn't the first time you're posting essays in this thread but for the love of God buy a diary because no one is reading that shit.
>>2871111
It's true. I'd rather fuck 1 girl like that than 100 mid bitches or 1000 prostitutes from Bangkok.

what a terrible place to take life advice from

>>2871097
>>2871099
>>2871100
Ngl quite depressing but also unsurprising...
I do wonder how many of those women are wives now and how many of em are good wives...
>>2871118
Kys faggot I read it all

>>2871100

Kek. This is kind of my situation but I don’t have a monster cock (wish I did obviously), just slightly above average. I’m kind of a fat fuck like you so some of it is covered in body fat. I’ve literally been told I look “scary” and I’ve made women wet from that.

At my gym I get everything from hot older married women to 18 yo’s staring / smiling at me and putting themselves around me. Occasionally if they’re feeling gutsy they will try to indirectly approach me. I’m taller than most men and have a masculine face and am somewhat hairy. I can only assume they want the excitement of fucking a ‘dangerous’ stranger or the older guy who looks like an ex-con, and cheating on their nice guy husbands/boyfriends if they have them. Having high T helps.

Seems to me you need to find girls away from their friends and social circle so they can’t be judged, and they probably will sleep with an older guy if nobody finds out. Then you get some who don’t even care what other people think... I gotta get me one of those dick extender things and use a pump to make my cock freakishly huge, then I’ll be their complete ‘package’, both literally and figuratively. Hawh hawh hawh!

>>2871267
>staring and smiling at me
If a girl is staring at me but not smiling does that mean I should approach? Or does it mean she thinks i might murder her and shes scared?

>>2867613
Doesn't have to be hard drugs when I was in college I used to sell vapes and pot to ̶h̶s̶ ̶g̶i̶r̶l̶s̶ fully of age adults. Got bjs from 10/10 prepy types for $10-20 worth of product, hooked up with a few of them even "dated" one for about a year although really all we would do is smoke, fuck, eat pizza then fuck some more. Of course I was a tall athletic white chad in my early 20's so ymmv.

All of this occurred in minecraft of course and its just an autistic work of fiction anyways.

>>2867607
I hate to sound like a massive pessimist, but unless you’re exceptionally good looking, my answer is 1000% no, and if you’re not sure if you’re good looking, you’re not.

I live in a massive party city. Voted best nightlife in the world many, many times. I love partying here.

I’m very, very social. I make friends incredibly easily and I like to think that I’m pretty socially switched on, it’s definitely my strong suit. I deal with high-net worth clients who are mostly women, face to face on a daily basis and excel at it (sales).

I can tell you, after spending 5 straight years in my 20s, drinking, MDMA, Coke, constant clubbing and meeting people 2-3x a week, want to know how many times I’ve hooked up, or even come close to hooking up? 0. Literally 0. Not once.

You might think I’m overweight, off, poor fashion etc, in reality I’m just fucking ugly. There’s literally no changing that.

I went through the whole looksmaxxing thing years ago, tried to improve myself in every possible way, yet, absolutely nothing.

What’s most disheartening is that everyone here is fucking constantly. I know guys in their 50s fucking hot 21 year olds. I know women in their 30s fucking 18 year old tourists. It just sucks feeling like everyone is experiencing something that you’re not.

If I was rotting my life away in bed complaining that other people were out having fun I think that would be ridiculous. Difference is I’ve been out there and tried it myself, more-so than 99.9% of folks.

At this point I’ve given up and put all that shit behind me. Maybe I’ll take some MD or coke throughout summer or go to some DJs I enjoy but zero expectations other than enjoying the music.

Anyway, go experience it for yourself and try your best anon. I’m rooting for you

>>2871406
How many times did you straight up ask a woman if she wanted to fuck?
Most of my casual sex partners I got from just asking them directly.
I ask this because I've known guys like you, and the answer was always "no", because they mistakenly believed there was some social rule against it, or were scared of the rejection.

>>2871407
Never.

I can say sincerely that I don’t have the balls to do that, I mean it honestly I really don’t. I don’t know if it’s just fear of rejection, humiliation, teenage trauma, or just a product of always being insecure about my appearance.

What’s strange is in other scenarios where I’ve developed relationships outside of partying in the past (it’s been a while), once a woman has told me that she’s attracted to me, I’ve had zero problems getting right into sex.

Doing that in a party/club scenario just seems so bewildering to me.

Regardless, I went out there for years and tried my best and never got some, so I don’t think anything is changing soon lol

>>2871412
Then what are you doing wrong? You really have no idea how to fix it?

>>2871406
Brutal. I'm the opposite, I was extremely socially isolated and didn't speak to anyone when I was 20 years old but when I left my home at 21 no matter where I went I had girls trying to fuck me. And I avoided partying and social stuff because I usually had a stable girlfriend.

Looks are literally everything.

>>2871407
>straight up asking a woman to fuck
Can you give an example of your conversation?
Do you make the move of kissing them and then ask to fuck? Or just ask to fuck before any touching has been engaged?

In my experience, ive asked girls to fuck or if their into me, and it usually a no ... but then days later they do something kind of touchy or flirty and then i make a move and they submit
I think it make them feel vulnerable or like a slut if they verbally agree to wanting to sex,(and thats why they dont like being asked)
so nowadays if i feel a vibe i just go for the ass grab or kiss

>>2871421
I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong necessarily anon.

I just think that certain people, like myself, aren’t cut out to hook up with women from bars/clubs because we aren’t attractive enough, it’s quite literally as simple as that.

It’s only in the last few months this realization hit, and it’s left me deeply bitter, resentful and sad.

Getting older made me realize everything the incels were talking about online 15 years ago was precisely correct.

Anyway.

>>2871424
>>2871427
Then why are there ugly ass comedians who pull? Personality and its effect on perceived social status are equally important

>>2871431
Pull what? You mean they're married like that Akash Singh guy who is married to some whore who publicly cucks him left and right? Like that Jonah Hill who is an actor famous for his comedic roles and got humiliated on live TV in France where the hostess basically outright called him a subhuman to his face and that she'd never cuck him? Don't be a retard and mix wealth and some status as being able to attract someone. Looks give you unconditional attraction (well the one condition being your looks to be pedantic), but money and status give negotiated attraction where you will always have to fulfil x, y and z criteria. It's not genuine, raw physical desire no matter what though. Jeff Bezos could never illicit raw sexual attraction even though he is one of the most powerful men alive.

>>2871484
Shed never fuck him *

>>2871406
Lol you sound like a faggot
I’m average looking, dress poorly, and need to lose 20 but I regularly pull at bars
Confidence and a sense of humor are 90% of the battle unless you’re truly ugly
Make a girl laugh and act cocksure and she’ll be on her knees for you two hours later

>>2871564
He's clearly tried it all. At some point you can't gaslight people and pretend their experient doesn't matter. There's truly ugly people out there. If looks didn't matter why have I gotten laid consistently despite being a piece of shit with women? I do things that you're not supposed to do a la PUA advice but it has never stopped me. I got my first girlfriend despite being the most insecure faggot in the world at the time.

>>2871118
>I'd rather fuck 1 girl like that than 100 mid bitches or 1000 prostitutes from Bangkok.
most people on the planet aren't lucky enough to get that

Test

>>2871100

I’ve been reading your posts for a few years now. (We may have crossed paths on some other forums/groups as well.) You were the first realization for me that that there were guys out there living the life I wanted. Being wanted & desired as a Man, keeping a harem, having multiple kids with multiple women, lots of wild sex. It sounded awesome and it inspired me.
I followed your advice and went full-coomer for a while. Several trips to Philippines, lots of girls, no children yet, but maybe soon. I’ll move there eventually, when my responsibilities at home permit it.
So thank you, Anon. Your stories and advice always inspired me. I hope you’re in a better place now and can find some peace

>>2868171
Considering both /b/ and /g/ were flooded with btc threads back when it was worth like $10, not really that amazing

>>2871896
No one would ever come up with larp stories on a website full of incels and autistic failures surely

>>2871898
I think you’re just coping because you were too retarded to understand it back when it was cheap

The problem I ran into in my mid-30s is that my standards are way higher than they should be, and I am not willing to compromise by fucking some 6/10 in her 20s.

So when I do go out while traveling, I ignore women and focus on maximizing the amount of fun I can have. And whenever I feel the need arise, I'll just order a 10/10 woman in her early 20s to my room for a couple of hours.

At this age I am never, ever going to be wasting my time trying to court average looking women just to stroke my ego. I'm not young anymore and the free juice simply isn't worth the squeeze.

Never, never in my life I've seen anyone who is over 35 and looks young. At best they looked 25.

>>2871908
I was like 10 years old max when it came about nigga but I know it for a fact that 99% of the shit posted here is larp
>>2871916
Same. It's always people saying they look younger than they are who actually look their age or worse. I've seen a few cases of men and women who legit looked way younger than their age but they were never talking about it. It's always some ageing millennial or gen x'er who is completely delusional about their looks and age

>>2867607
Just be yourself :)

Holy shit, this is the most incel thread I've seen on here in a long time.

>>2871916
If by "young" you mean like 16 y.o. then sure.

>>2871926
You don't look 25 bro

>>2871930
I'm in my mid 50s and I do.

>>2871936
You're beyond delusional. You can always post proof but I am already hearing the excuses why you're scared of having your face posted on some obscure shithole forums.

At some point you guys really need to detach your feelings of self-worth from whether you can bag 21 year old hotties or not.

Imagine being a 45 year old man and moping about something so meaningless. It’s the male equivalent of those old cat ladies you see on social media posting bikini pics of their disgusting bodies.
We all become physically disgusting to younger people at some point in time. That is how aging works. Get over it.

>>2871930
Well I definitely do, and it's the other people's opinion not mine.

>>2870331
what is Access?

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>>2871952
but...but..I'M 35 YEARS OLD AND NEVER EXPERIENCED PRIME YOUNG PUSSY

>>2871952
Yeah just experience nothing good in life and be treated as worthless slave. Nothing wrong or to be bitter about there.

>>2871987
I think it's just being in situations and environments which have attractive young women. Which is really the biggest problem some of us have because we're so isolated and it's difficult to get out of.

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>>2872040
Who is this young boy?

>>2871987
You can only fuck women who are in front of you. Hence why being young is so important. If you're in university you're constantly surrounded by young women your age who are all horny and want to look hot guys. If you're travelling as a young guy you're also around young women all the time because you get included in social circles by default due to your youth. And so on etc.
This is why even if you're good looking when older it becomes more difficult. You're not really around young people all the time and at any rate they don't include you naturally because you're not seen as one of them due to your age. On dating apps many women have age filter so even if she would find you attractive she will never seen your profile because she doesn't want to see 99% of 30+ your old who are visibly expired, fat and balding. The older you get the more uphill it goes.

>>2871952
The only thing that matters is reproducing with the best mate. All human activity leads towards this. Everything else is a cope.

>>2872076
>only thing that matters is reproducing
And plenty of people who do this regret it or just don't even care and could have gotten through life with a different hobby.
Thinking it is the grand mission of your existence is cope.

>>2872083
Regret doesn't matter. Its just a cope. You reproduced, your genetics got passed along. Happiness doesn't matter.
All human behavior/scheming/etc is for the purpose of getting resources to attract a mate.

>>2872086
Genetics is just cope. Literally no one died and then started even thinking about their genetics.

>>2872076
If you’re roaming bars and clubs looking for a woman to start a family with, you are a fucking idiot. Clearly the majority of old guys ITT only want to fuck young hotties because it’s an ego boost

>>2872089
Insane post from a doomer incel. Enjoy aging out and staring down the barrel of life age 50-80 with no kids and no family, realizing you missed your chance and all that is left for you is various forms of cope and cucking for other men who did reproduce.
Demographics are the destiny of our species. If you like the thought of your descendents getting a shot at winning the game and possibly passing the great filter, or doing something epic and historical like total global fecaloid death, then the only way is to make lots of kids so at least one of your progeny does something awesome down the line.
Any and all responses to this except for affirmation are cope.

The shit you do in your life only matters if it helps your bloodline and your family. The most important part of that process is ensuring your bloodline continues.

>>2872091
Nice feminist brainwashing retard. You will feel really stupid when you shake it off someday, but that's a personal journey, not something I can convince you of.

Your toys, your video games you hobbies, your gay little internet arguments, none of it matters.
You need to knock up some prime, fertile pussy. Several times.
Only AFTER you have a whole clan of fucking brats rampaging around, can you kick back and relax on the mate seeking, in the evolutionary biology sense.
The meaning of life is the immortality of your personal genetics. Its the ONLY way to send a part of yourself into the distant future.
You may now post your cope, but this is the blueprint and operating instructions of our species. Your dopamine addiction to devices and hoarding plastic crap are a blip and totally meaningless.

The only way to participate in the history of our species is to reproduce enough times to make sure you get a say in the outcome.

I'm not taking advice from autistic losers on 4chan about the meaning of life or women lol
Like asking a nigga begging on the streets what are the best strategies for getting to one million

>>2872092
The family has been destroyed, but the bloodline does continue. It's just more demonic cattle ruthlessly grabbing what they can from each other and lying, cheating, withholding information to cause hurt, keeping secrets, backstabbing, and ghosting.
I've had family members who reproduced and tried to manage out their child by getting them to attempt to kill themselves and then blame them and get mad about them causing a ruccus. Yes they reproduced, yes even that demon of a child managed to reproduce since men in America are so desperate even a tall, flabby, ugly, tattooed white woman in her 30s with a history of drugs, casual sex, and horrifically dysfunctional family can be married and have a child.
They both tormented much of their family with their miserable behavior and unrelenting manipulation and abusive, exploitative behaviors.
The "good" people in the family have no blood children. The only contributions has been the increased sociopathization of society by having the mentally ill and hateful, spiteful maniacs pass on their unholy genes while the less insane have not.
Every branch of the family has basically hated their family and turned their backs on others in the extended family. Only occasional individuals have been less than terrible but still nothing meaningful and their advanced age is ok because they get to live other less demonic members of the family. Having children doesn't matter when the rest of your life is a wreck and people who were born into a better position and don't have kids have done just fine.
Children are not the end all mission and aim. They are just a complement to an already "ok" life.
Many people have families they don't even want and it creates more misery.
Being cucked for others who have children is real and not easy to avoid. The cattle class self policing and harassing you into doing all the same isn't either.
Tl;dr who the fuck knows

>>2872108
This desu. I can hardly listen to such drivel when I consistelt see dysgenics and idiots reproducing just because they were born into a group of some sort giving them structure, authority, and support. They live lives like cattle and typically just push out others who aren't just like them because they aren't "normal" even though often superior.
Society is held together and continued by machines and automation. Not some bullshit about your genetics meaning anything when gene therapy and genetic engineering exist anyway.
>you need brats running around so you have a say
You think you really have a say in this world kiddo? You're just a peasant slave like 99% of the rest of us. You mean nothing and your kids mean nothing. Just more numbers for the population count. There is no real legacy you're building. The leaders will just imort more people as desired and constrain, guide, and build people with legal systems, enforcement of social policy, and starving out anyone who doesn't comply.
You're just cattle, boy.
Harp on about your democracy all you want. It won't make it real.

>>2872108
Good take. Maybe you should leave forever so an alpha male like you isn't surrounded by losers. You need to find a high value man website where you will fit in.

>>2872113
All that shit you just said is made up doomer incel cope, and none of it is true.

Men without children ARE children.
You do not deserve a say in how anything is run, unless you did your part to continue the nation/species.
Your opinion is irrelevant as a child in gradeschool. Having a family is the foundational accomplishment that makes everything else you do have any meaning at all.

>>2872120
My life isn't true?
Even if I seem too good to be true, I am here now and there's no denying it. Your know-it-all babyposting is cope.

>>2872121
Plenty of overgrown children have children. In fact that appears to be the standard. You cattle keep spending your lives doing nothing of note like playing video games, watching television, consuming, going through the motions of a "normal" life on railroad tracks that anyone is able to do and then you harp on about how having children is the greatest accomplishment you could possibly do and the only thing that matters.
While you get crowded out by Mexicans, Indians, muslims, and whoever else in your particular area who do it better than you and your leaders don't give a shit about you at all. They could even just do it heavily subsidized by public services of your government and you're still claiming they're better than others.
While they replace your flag with theirs and spit at your image.
While you claim there is some nation you're furthering which the very concept of is being attacked from every direction and being done away with. You better not be American. Your opinion would be worth less than a downy child in grade school. Although I'll humor you. What nation are you furthering?

>>2872131
Didn't read your doomcel cope. You will find out the hard way.

>>2872134
Copepost desu

>I've been refuted and can't do likewise
Check

Blackpilled incel cringe doesnt require refutation. You are a miserable human being in a dysgenic fail state that gets harder to escape from every year. You are essentially trapped in the orbit of a black hole and slowly getting dragged towards the event horizon.
The closer you get the more effort needed to break free.

Nobody would or should ever take you seriously. Fix yourself, or perish in your misery.

>>2872174
Damn dude, this is deep

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>have a hobby
>do things out and about that is with my hobby at event
>no one gives a fuck about age as long as you aren't reddit mod looking hairline and bodyweight

>>2872174
You're not entirely wrong, and that's an aesthetic analogy, but it's not entirely accurate. It makes the final destination seem violently destructive and purely undesirable. That is not my trajectory.

I have a different analogy of basically being knocked off course and the incredibly long time I've spent marching around in the weeds instead of the established path like an unpleasant detour has given me some unconventional outlook and habits.
The longer I spend on that path, the longer it takes me to get back on track.
Fortunately I'm not complelety lost, and have money, physique, certifications, and worth that society finds valuable. I'm only a bit socially fucked up.
Something like that.
I quickly improve though when I'm around people I find enjoyable in a comfy setting.

Except I just realized that actually yes, it does need to be refuted. You declared that men without children should never be listened to nor matter even though childless doesn't mean anything regarding having a valuable opinion.
Many things throughout history have involved various types of childless people acting as advisors to emperors and shit.
You also haven't refuted anything about how race and nations are being demolished and you just avoid it and cope. Holding onto something in the past when you have nothing else to latch onto in a world where societies are disintegrating.
You proudly declare that you're continuing something that doesn't even really matter anymore in a world where corporations have more weight than supposed nation states.
You're slow but try to position yourself above others by ignoring and hiding and just saying that if they don't play the same game you do then you're not a real grown up.
You sound like a child.
My wisdom and heroic ventures have developed a character more deep and stable than your harping.
It's just still in progress. And that's another step I have above you. I know that different people have different lives and are born into different circumstances and only really how they handle their circumstances, trials, and navigate through life is what is important or meaningful in any significant way.

>>2867607
Not unless you're selling party drugs to said 20s crowd. Just p4p and fuck off.

>>2872369
>Just p4p
How about no:
>Discussions of prostitution or sex tourism are not permitted on /trv/.

I'm giving up on ever making it

>>2872365
>in a world where corporations have more weight than nations
You refuse to accept that your life is small and circumscribed by the lives of others, just like the other 99% of humanity who is not part of the ruling class. So you rage against your insignificance as if it were some sort of grand cosmic wrong. It's not. If you were meant to be one of the elite, you would've been born into one of their families. But you weren't, so that's that.
>Everything is futile because, uh, others are migrating and having mixed babies! it's liderally over!
Have you forgotten that this is a travel board? We don't hate people for going to new places here. In fact, that's the whole point of this board. Discussing new lives in new places.

It's one thing to accept your inability to reproduce due to lack of suitable mates. Sometimes that's just how life works out. Years pass by and you don't find anyone who is even remotely suitable to share your life, much less bear your children. So you might as well enjoy the simple, small pleasures of the bachelor life instead of raging about muh heckin world politics.

Modern civilization has enabled a single unattached man with a Western passport to live with less effort than ever before, going basically wherever he pleases on the map, no responsibilities and no obligations beyond adherence to the most basic rules of human behavior. Is this freedom rewarding? Not really, because there is nobody in your life to support and validate you. But if you focus on self-discipline and don't succumb to the urge to constantly spike your dopamine levels, you can still find a measure of satisfaction in living such a life. >>2872469 There will always be millions of people who are richer and more successful than you. And also millions who are poorer and less successful. "Making it" is an entirely subjective bar that often has a way of staying just out of reach, like the carrot on a string held in front of the horse.
>>2872121
Keep in mind that once you lock in to the family life, your effort will no longer be a choice that you make, like it is for the single man.
>Hmm, do I want to work four months this year, or only three?
It will be a relentless, 12 months per year demand for your productivity levied on you by the females and children in your family. Not only at work, but around the house as well. In exchange, they are supposed to provide you with a sense of purpose and meaning for your exertions by looking up to you and treating you with respect as a father.

The anon claiming that you can kick back and relax as a dad is full of shit. For one, you will have to work extra hard in order to provide for their ever-increasing expectations and then have some left over for your own future. Two, your wife will become less attractive with each childbirth, so the whole premise of "it's not necessary to find a mate because you already have one" feels more like imprisonment of your desire. Third, many men find (too late) that having a family is much more burdensome and much less rewarding than they expected it to be.

>>2872651
You also forgot to mention the dead bedrooms the vast majority of marriages face. Men are retarded and think once they've locked in woman they dont have to try looking good or being in shape. Hence you will see these faggots who think their wife will love them no matter what as they steadily get more out of shape and their balding spot grows grows bigger and then act like its a surprise when they get hit with divorce or their old lady has been giving out to someone else.

>>2872683
a whole lot of femcel projection there sweetie. Fuck off with your retarded fanfiction and touch grass.

Fine, dont reproduce. It doesnt bother me if you self terminate your bloodline. My kids will rule the world. The wet fart of your existence wont even be remembered by a single person.

>>2872649
>You refuse to accept that your life is small and circumscribed by the lives of others, just like the other 99% of humanity who is not part of the ruling class
No not at all. Your post is exactly what I told the other anon. We're all peasants. His view is the one where he's coping by convincing himself he and his mighty heirs are world-influencing democrats.

>might as well enjoy the simple, small pleasures of the bachelor life instead of raging about muh heckin world politics
That's exactly what I'm doing lol
Your view is much more inline with mine that what maybe you think mine is.
Pointing out that corporations are nudging out nation states is just looking around and see what's happening. It's not something I see and decide to build my life around with that being the center piece of my decision of how I live. It's just how things are in the world. How I live is a result of the contexts I was born into and keep being pushed towards. Not resulting from some political treatise on the merit of traipsing around the world and why everyone is a retard except me.

>>2872708
>My kids will rule the world
Lol yeah ok keep huffing that copium.

>>2872683
Usually the other way around. Before I divorced my first wife, we had a dead bedroom predicament. She not only ballooned to 245lbs (at 5'2) but also stopped showering, quit her job, and became a cold hearted shrew. I sincerely tried to make it work, but if I'm being honest, the moment we got married, she changed. The mask came off. It's very common and I've been in enough communities who share similar stories to know this isn't abnormal.

>>2872683
It's not really all about appearance. It's also that the lifestyle that drew the woman in in the first place is no longer there.
E.g. You move from a place where you're a local DJ to a suburb and you no longer have the social status. You sell your sports car for an SUV and you no longer have a cool car. You spend more time at home and less time on your mission, since your mission is now your family. All of these things turn women off even though they're objectively good.

>>2867607
I read this entire thread and while it started really dreadful I am grateful for it now.

Even though some of you are so fucked in the head that it even makes me feel good about myself and I am a certified 33y khv fr fr

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glad to know i'm not the only 35y/o, 5'9, balding, manboobed incel here

>>2868154
Wow, I wonder what his skincare routine is!

I'm a mid 20s white guy who started regularly solo traveling for the first time last year. Been to at least 6 different cities within the past year, all within Europe and North America. I stayed at hostels, went to nightclubs, even made friends to go out with. Not once did I ever come close to getting laid. Meanwhile my 21 yo roastie roommate immediately gets a bf within the first hour of checking into the Hostel.

Simply put, don't even think of traveling if you're under 6 foot and/or overweight

>>2867607
ASU GROYPER IS A FAGGOT

Im 39 and I hooked up with a 20 yo thai college girl tonight. Fed her some grilled pork, got a little bit drunk together, then smashed. Nothing to it.

Would i go hang out with groups of 20 year olds? Probably not, but taking a cute young woman on a date is fun and easy if she isn't a retarded liberal western cunt.

>>2873829
How did you meet?
Did you actually rizz her up, or did you just pay some bar girl like most "SEA chads" do?

>>2873830
it was actually a tranny, I'm gay

>>2873830

lol you think free pussy in asia is actually hard, or that “age gaps” matter over there? lmao

>>2874234
I ask because I keep seeing on the internet "oh bro SEA is a white guy's playground it's so easy here. It's the cure for inceldom", and then I search up some videos, and it's all just "here's how to get the best deals in Pattaya", or "Yo come to Cambodia it's only $20 boom boom!!", as if it's some kind of flex.

>>2867617
it’s truly over

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>>2867645
>I'm 37 and people constantly mistake me for a 17 year old.

>>2869674
You sound clueless so I'll do you a favor and explain to you how things work in the world.

In your 20s, as a man, you have vitality but that's it. No experience, no skills, no money or style. You get laid sporadically, simply out of luck at being in the right place. If you are lucky enough to be picked up by an older woman, preferably in her 30s, she will teach you what women like, how to please them, where to take them, and what to do in bed.

In your 30s is when you are starting to peak. You have the vitality of a younger man but the self control of an older one. You have money to spend, you know how to treat women and they can see that. Do you really think a woman in her 20s is going out with some clueless dickhead who can't afford to take her out? Women, unlike men, want more than a person to sleep with. At this age, you should be going from one woman's bed to another.

In your 40s, you will have settled down and have children already. If that's not for you, you can still date women in their 20s if you keep yourself in shape physically and intellectually. At this stage, you have your own style and you don't care what others think. That self consciousness is gone, because you are totally secure in yourself. Women can see that, and they are drawn to a confident man who can treat them right.

Your real peak is from 35 to 45, because you will have the emotional maturity and means to date women of any age.

>>2874285
I've been getting laid all of my life and women have been attracted to me despite me never having possessed more than 5000 euros until I was 27. Women especially women under 25 don't really give a shit if you have money if they're physically attracted to you. You're the clueless one because you're a glorified walking and talking wallet. Girls just want to have fun as the song goes.
All of my life i have acted in ways all these redpill types like you say you shouldn't act by being insecure, etc. and displaying emotion but the girls didn't care, if anything they were more drawn to me because they wanted to take care of me. I've said some extremely inappropriate things and done a bunch of abusive shit and cheated and girls didn't care, if anything they liked it. I try not to do it because it is not good for one's soul but it happens to the best of us. None of it mattered.

This is genuine attraction and no money can buy it. If you had to wait until you're 35 to get it you were never attractive to women and sure as he'll you're not attractive now. Enjoy being a paypig in 3rd world countries.

>>2874285
If women generally preferred significantly older men then the average age difference in couples wouldn't be less than five, three years. Going out when I see people on dates they're usually the same age group or generation. People holding hands, etc. Lots of losers who didn't get anything when they were young like to imagine their peak is when they're later in life when all they're really attracting is women who want them for their cash. At that point you're better off paying escorts because you'll save yourself a lot of time and effort. Men and women physically peak when they're young and both genders are attracted to physicality. Guys who date younger are usually good looking and never had issues getting laid. My very attractive friend who meets a lot of younger women was always good looking and if I'm honest isn't too different from a 20 year old in mentality, so it's all a cope. Men are so retarded when they think women somehow don't want the same things they do, i.e. an attractive face and body to go with it.

>>2874285
The cope is off the charts. You were a subhuman in your 20s and a paypig in your 30s, that's about it. Nobody is reminiscing about their fucking mid 30s when they're old. Most of your social doors with said 20 year old girls are shut the moment you turn 30.

>>2874300
Those are the consequences of 2010s pick up artist bullshit. Sunk cost and what not with all those courses they attended. That scene was full with self-help woo woo and crypto-traditionalism. Interestingly enough, the first major incel/blackpill forum was called PUAhate and documented all the scams and actresses these guys were hiring for videos and such. Being anti-looks was the only way they could earn money, because telling ugly manners they have very limited options would not be good for business.

>>2874313
Sadly its gone the full cycle where it's the blackpill content creators selling everyone the idea they will ascend now. Real PSL people know it is not currently possible for everyone and even surgery can only go so far.

>>2874367
It's because the entry bar now is so low with simpleton platforms like tiktok and kick, but if I could be shameless and push it to make money, I'd do it too, it's just human nature.
I remember when guys on the forums were actually wishing for terms like incel to go mainstream pre-Elliot and pre-Minassian so people would understand that such phenomenon exist- and it backfired so brutally badly, lmao

>>2874313
PUA wasn’t wrong. It got purged because corporations don‘t like it. The blackpill is a chinese meme. China bans all forms of pessimism and thinks the government needs to promote “positive energy”. So then they push the blackpill on tiktok because they think it will destabilize the west

>>2874382
No, it was wrong. There's a reason most of the big names, like Forney, Roosh, etc ended up as male cat ladies. And the scene that hasn't move on to supplement scams or generic self help is a bunch of Londoners who go to prostitution hotbeds in Eastern Europe and totally daygame 20-somethings.