Sure. Just be the older guy with the drugs.

>>2867609
how does one start doing that?

>ANOTHER unc-cel thread

>>2867607
I met a guy in his early 40s in a Budapest hostel. He went out clubbing and talked with a lot of people. I never saw him score with any woman, but he never made it awkward and he fit right in with the rest of the 20 something's

>>2867622
That's fucking tragic
>t. guy in his early 40s

>>2867624
Why is that tragic? If anything it's based to still have such youthful vigor

>>2867632
>Why is that tragic?
because
>I never saw him score with any woman

>>2867634
Well he looked like he had fun anyway chillin with da boyz

>>2867607
I'm 37 and people constantly mistake me for a 17 year old. If you don't look young for your age, don't bother.

>>2867645
Bullshit. I guarantee that nobody is asking you where your parents are or why aren't you in school.
>>2867607
All those years of being alone have atrophied your social abilities in a hundred different ways that well-socialized people can't help but pick up on. Sometimes you'll encounter a girl who is tired of hyper social normie chatter, but such types tend strongly toward friendzoning. Best bet is to stop trying to analyze the shit out of sex having (a peak incel trait) and go out there to experience it instead.

>>2867643
>Well he looked like he had fun anyway chillin with da boyz
he was jestermaxxing (it didn't work)
It's all about women.

>>2867649
>All those years of being alone have atrophied your social abilities in a hundred different ways that well-socialized people can't help but pick up on.
I just barely got out of the shower after coming back to my room after having experienced that from someone I actually kind of thought I'd click well with because I briefly met with them a previous night and chatted/flirted. I then returned to their bar just tonight.

I felt like I was going down the beta boy route with our conversation and then just started asking about how they work in the bar and what rates they have for "studying" since I'm sure they do it. They just ended up quoting me a way higher price for the night or an hour than I ever got and they kept asking how old I was and then watching tiktoks on their phone. Fucking GOD.

It's obvious I was perceived as "old" and my ego was hurt and I was disappointed because they gave me the highest quote I've ever received from anyone and I thought it was total BULLSHIT. After they saying I was handsum. Piecing something else together I think there was a group chat of those bar girls in the area because when I left and walked into another bar I was actually greeted by some random woman as grandpa when I jokingly told the first one I was with I'm grandpa.
I'm not even 40 and I'm getting rejected and mocked for my age and given jacked up prices and apathetic treatment.
Got fucking damn fuck you all.

It's increasingly obvious to me that they're not going to really like me for much more than my money and so I'm just going to have to buy empty dopamine hits. Fuck you all.

>>2867607
College sluts look good but they suck in bed. Fuck 35 year old women who know what they’re doing and give a shit about pleasing their partner.

>>2867671
>suck in bed
Never got why fags care about this.
A hole's a hole. Worst case scenario just guide them

>>2867671
This is a lie. Athletic healthy young women can be great lays.
You lie about it because you can't get it, and the only thing you do manage to pull are the hags you talked about.

>>2867607
>college age
Realistically, you'd need to buy a villa in Tulum, Ibiza, or Cabo, and be a really good host and guide (get free drinks, organize transport, club connections, etc).

Traveling from place to place and larping like the most interesting man in the world is just really not realistic IMO.

>>2867671
Ehhh, I'd say go for mid twenties to late twenties women, they're peak and safely out of the retard phase.

>>2867693
Obsessed. What is it with you clowns? Unless you are mentally stuck in grade school for life, you age out of being interested in 20 year old women eventually.
Get over having spent your twenties as a loser, compensating for that years later is embarassing.

>>2867693
I'm mid 30s. My last fuckbuddy was 22. She was terrible in bed and this isn't the first time it has happened. 30s women are much better lays.

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>t.

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>>2867607
>Can a loner man in his early-mid 30s
sure? When I went to Eastern Europe for work and decided to have some nightlife, there were people from all walks of life out and about. It was a normal thing. The same when I went to Japan. I truly believe its only in the USA where clubbing/nightlife had become so hostile.
>change his lifestyle to hang out with younger people and party and fuck college sluts if he travels
now this is where it gets complicated. If you are balding, overweight, have no sense of personal goals/ambition or lifestyle, no fashion sense or friends- why would they go with you? They can go with a younger, more successful, handsome and outgoing guy. So you also have to compete against those type of men. You have to stand out in other ways. They can travel like you, have friends their own age that you don't. What sets you apart?
>What are the best travel locations for this?
Just go to oldschool Europe. Helsinki in Finland. Anywhere in Eastern Europe. Asia. South America.

>>2867739
Probably a skill issue. I fuck mostly 16-24 year olds and most of them are very active in bed, especially when encouraged.
Being attractive personally is only one element. Actually knowing how to arouse and seduce a woman is another.
Work on your touch and hand game before the main event. If she isn't leaking into your palm, she isn't ready.
Go ahead and post your cope now, but this is your wakeup call. It's not even a debate, you're just fucking up and im informing you of the fact.

>>2867803
pff sure thing brah.
You're also a 6'3 millionaire, right ?

Taking a flight to a random destination isn't going to magically make you a Lothario, but every loner hopes that going to a city like Prague or Bangkok and lurking around a street full of bars will lead to a series of happenings that will manifest a buoyant escapism they never felt before and result in a memorable night. How often does such a breakout actually happen? Rarely. It's called the law of accumulated advantage. But that doesn't stop guys from trying their best.

Paralysis by analysis is another pitfall. You spend so much time thinking and fantasizing about women in the abstract that when you encounter a foid IRL, your brain freezes up for that crucial moment when you had an opening, too cluttered with endless hypothesizing to react to a developing situation. Then it's gone forever, and you descend further into obsessive self-criticism...or else clear your mind and become entirely focused on the humans in your environment...which is how you attune yourself to the behavioral cues of a population and gain confidence for the next crucial moment of initial approach.

>>2867607
Pattaya or Bangkok is good for this specifically, but if you hit the gym and reach model tier, the world is your oyster

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>>2868001
No, im a 6' even 40 year old multi millionaire American, which easy-ish because I worked hard in my 20s and was buying stocks and crypto.
It sucks that you're Indian but we all have our own struggles.
Maybe if you put in your time you can get arranged married to your fat cousin and enjoy her mustache on your curry stirrer.

>>2868032
This is a good post. I dropped gaming as a hobby/time waster almost entirely (from 40hours a week down to 2) and a lot of my depersonalization/brain fog went away. I also quit porn and dont save it to my devices. That took some willpower but I got over it.

The end result was that I could actually talk to people and be engaged with them irl without any issues at all, since socializing is an activity which can be enjoyable if you arent dopamine fried already. Not having 8 hours of gaming to sink into means you arent pressured to rush anything else, so people go from 'obstacles to getting home and playing vidya' to 'the reason I came out'.

Many anons are now mature enough for thst conversation. I wasnt strong enough to do it by sheer willpower. I had to leave the laptop at home and fly to another country for a couple months and force it. The boredom was excruciating, so I just went and did stuff. Anything. And I had a great time and met people.

>>2868154
>here's that kid I was telling you about

>>2867613
Buy drugs.

>>2868158
Amazing how many crypto millionaires there are on this site lol

>>2867609
this pretty much
also dont be retarded and punch out of your league
you know it, sometimes you get lucky though in that case take the chance

dont ever be disappointed, if you strike out just leave dont dwell on it. improve

honestly did better when i was a brokie then i suddenly had money and i turned into an incel, so really it dont matter what you have so long as youre confident and take care of yourself, bitches can smell desperation and will likely take your shit

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>>2867607
Your entry ticket to the prime teen pussy palooza as a 30something is still having a full head of hair. I’ve seen a few chud comments about having drugs or seducing women.

Those things don’t matter if you’re not attractive and having hair is required to be attractive unless you are in perfect physical shape and have an attractive face

Take me for example. I’m 2 months from 35. I still look young, especially clean shaven. Most dudes my age look like dumpster water. Why? Balding or bald.

Jack Morgan the YouTube would look like a meth head begging for change outside a strip mall if it wasn’t for his hair

This very arrogant, gremlin vibed arab guy I stayed in a hostel with who was in his 40s (looked a bit younger, maybe early to mid 30s at best?) hooked up with this hapa girl who looked like a witch and borderline diseased with how many tattoos and piercings she had. I don't know if I'd count that as a win consdierign she no doubt had severe issues as a giant whore, but it's possible. He had like a vegeta hairline

>>2868174
there's too much of white in your ((hair)) to fool anyone

>>2868158
The ballooning of female waistlines has truly become a worldwide phenomenon.
>>2868174
Refusing to grow up does not equal remaining young. Optimism is a key character quality of youth; hopefulness lights up your face. Without that zest for life and the opportunities it provides you, you're gonna look dead-eyed and tired and old regardless of how long you continue boycotting the barbershops. Zoomer hos prefer volume to length btw, that's why the stylish zoomerbros all have fluffed-out broccoli tops and not Beatles tier shag.

>>2868189
>zoomer hos prefer
>he styles his hair according to what women want
Idgaf what women want. Hair signals youth and virility. Potential and future. The untamed masculinity of the follicular follicularly adorned.

>>2868202
LMAO. Greasy, flat hair does not signal youth and virility. It makes you look like a 36 year old pizza delivery driver who stopped giving a fuck a long time ago and hasn't changed his undies in a couple days either.

>>2868204
>a 36 year old pizza delivery driver who stopped giving a fuck a long time ago
Hahaha that's pretty similar to what I thought from his pic

>>2868204
>>2868213
Go perm your hair you little faggots

>>2868158
Phaha suure you are. You and all the rest of em.
But hey. Feel free to LARP at us some more

>>2868158
Post face lmao

>>2868174
Dude's got a fat neck and a weak chin lmao

>>2868174
ok, now let's see a pic from the front so we can see how bad the norwood is

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>>2867649
>>2867764
>seething
so much anger in your hearts, try to lighten up. Next time a storm brews outside, taunt the demiurge. Skip around like you did when you were a kid. He can take your hair but not your spirit

>>2867607
any country in south east asia

>>2868364
STOP SENDING PATHETIC LOSERS TO SEA
FUCKING STOP

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>>2868171
If you didn’t make 6 figures on crypto 2012-2016 you’re probably retarded. It was not hard.

>>2868377
>come across btc when it's around $100
>want to buy 10 just to see what happens
>decide to go to Thailand instead and pretty much just walk around for two months

>>2868265
Why? You dont believe im 40 you fucktard? Between the bots, AI using Indians, and the schizos, this site is almost unusable.

>>2868365
Its full of normies you retard. Im here right now. Its an ocean of utterly repulsive normalfaggots in any place accessible a 2 hour drive from an airport.

>>2868234
It's pretty normal to be a millionaire by 40 in the usa. You would have to deliberately sabotage your own life to not accomplish that meager goal.

Normal for white people that is.

>>2868399
Whom do you expect to actually believe this garbage? The average mutt is desperately scrabbling to afford food and shelter while even a basic education will indebt you for life.

I'm happy for you for you that you accidentally won the crypto lottery, but everyone can still tell that you're a loser.

>>2868174
>Most dudes my age
>Balding or bald.
I'm literally your age and don't know a single guy who is balding or bald. Less than 20% of men are affected in their thirties statistically. Where the fuck does this meme come from lmao

>>2868399
Yeah it is quite common, but most American richfags these days came from money, so it was nigh effortless for them to keep building on what they already had when they turned 18. For the working class it's very different. If you bust ass for what you have, damn right you're gonna want to enjoy the fruits of your labor in the very near future. Or hell, you're gonna go into debt so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor before you even do the work.

I quit my job every year to live at leisure and spend the fruits of my labor. That's how little faith I have in the future.
>>2868396
This is utterly and completely untrue. The reason you always end up around normie tourists in SEA is because you're a normie tourist yourself who follows the same herd-sourced recommendations from an AI chatbot or your favorite travel reddit that everybody else is following.

Ye. I am late 20s and did this in Japan. Feels good shagging a chick you know some lonely loser will end up with, treating her like his world.

>>2868409
You're some seething third world monkey, which is why you believe Russian and chinese propaganda on the internet.
In reality Americans are casually and obscenely wealthy compared to the rest of the world if they do literally anything for a living besides work min wage entry level jobs.
I hate to break it to you, but we run this shit. The world, that is.
Crypto is only 20% of my net worth. The rest of are simply stocks I invested in, when I was 20-35, and normal growth of the American stock market.
If you happen to be a white American also (which I doubt), and failed to participate in the most powerful economic and wealth creation engine in human history, then you are simply a fucking retard.

>>2868760
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-10-earners-drive-nearly-191500198.html

>>2868745
Pretty much. Inheritance for some and not losing your job. (Their parents not losing their jobs is how the inheretance was made in the first place.)
The problems... Are that they keep... Bla bla... Firing everyone.

I made a post in the african thread about petrodollar. /biz/ talks about it. What happens is inflation is you paying off your white masters debts from the 1950s. Then you have idiots like>>2868760 who keep perpetrating this because they appear to benefit in the short term. When in reality more and more high earners will keep losing their jobs because of the damage of these selfish narcissistic malignant ideas. So they won't even have valuables for their grandchildren to inherit.
"The replacement theory" is literally what this guy wants. They perpetrate the system without even understanding it. To their own detriment.

The best way to actually fuck and not just “party” is always going to be isolating them on a date. Either meeting in person or on apps. Girls have anti slut defense to not go home with you at a club plus logistical issues. They’ll use you for free drinks, validation, make out at best, then gone and forgotten once the drunken haze wears off

So to actually casually date and fuck a 35 is basically at prime age. 18-25 year olds are totally on the table in Asia, South America, Eastern Europe

>>2868769
>every part of Asia is flooded with young guys chasing young girls
>35 is prime for 18-25
yeah ok unc
i'm sure they'll choose you over the younger competition

>>2867607
>>2868174
Kek are you the guy who wasted his inheritance in Thailand simping for hookers and now you're working as a security guard and incel again? Why don't you just settle down wife up a homely Isaan girl and bring her back to the states?

>>2869674
Coping zoomer pretends to not know how women work, especially outside the west. Girls want Daddy to dick them with experience. They don’t want broccoli haired feminine zoomers even close to their age who splooge their pants before entry

15 + year age gaps are normal, especially if you’re white. Even a zoomer Chad is limited in his selection, so a 23 yo Chad only gets girls younger than him. A 35 yo can gets everyone, because they’re all younger than him. The biggest ick for girls is dating guys at/near the same age

A trained/well kept 35 yo also looks better than a trained 23 yo who is boyish with no time to build as much muscle. Not to mention the biggest factor: status/wealth difference between generations

This thread has so much coping. You're older, and no, you're not Brad Pitt. You're not looking better but being aged out every single day.
>>2868769
Instagram game is probably the best. Even on dating Apps if you're past a certain age you will not have the same exposure. Most 18 to 23 year old women have a hard cap that is as low as 25 and as high as 29. Very few chicks will have their age range set above that. I remember some dude .org testing the difference between something like 27 and 23 in terms of exposure and it was like day and night. Even if you're older and hot 90% of the women you want won't even see you just because of how filters work.
>>2869840
You retards keep coping with some outdated memes about zoomers (who the has broccoli cut these days) but he is completely right. Women by far prefer men in their own age cohort and studies back it up where women prefer 3 to 5 years older at max. Youth in itself is insanely attractive. It's the world's biggest cope, on par with the idea that women don't care much about looks, height or dick size, to say that they don't desire youth. They absolutely do. Just because an older Chad is an exception to this or you've seen some anecdote doesn't change this.

Women want a young, tall and fit stud with a big cock.

Literally.

If they are ovulating they will imagine this.

Not some ageing 37 year old with "muh money" copes posting from 4chan of all the places lmao.

The fact that you think muscle size matters at all just shows how redpilled and delusional you are.

BTW OP is 100% baiting and fair play to him, this board is mostly oldcels who can't stand anyone telling them that they're old and it's not a good thing lmao

I've got 8 legitimate kids and several more illegitimate. All the mothers were 16-20 when they got pregnant, except for the aunt of one of them who was 30.
I was age 30-40 when I accomplished this mass breeding. I am 42 now.
I know what ovulating teenagers want. Not you. You don't have a clue. Don't talk unless you did it. Don't speculate, don't repeat what you heard from someone else who didnt do it. I did it. Let me tell you what ovulating young women want:
They want big, strong, safe and secure Daddy with total privacy and plausible deniability (no gossip about their behavior possible). They want to be told they were brought over to get knocked up. They want to be pinned down and physically dominated in bed, and get absolutely piped down and have their guts re-arranged by big daddy cock. They need to orgasm from deep pussy stimulation in their anterior/posterior fornix regions, which only big cock can do.
They want to be held down, cock still inside, full of a tangibly large load of cum, and to be told they are going to be a mom now. Their brains melt. Some dont melt quite right and have a freakout later, but most that is exactly what they want to hear. She will be yours from that point forward, until you actually accomplish the deed.
They want "Daddy" to knock them up. Fulfill the role correctly and they come back for more, forever.

The long term consequences vary since the pair bonding /brain chemistry is different in every circumstance, but when it comes to pure animal instinct, young women seek established patriarchs and respond like a primate does, because that is what we are.
>wouldn't daddy be 50+?
No. 50+ is geriatric for our species. Just because we live longer now doesnt mean its normal in nature. 50+ is grandpa.

What women think they want, and say they want, has no basis in reality and does not represent what they actually want, especially when they are pre-ovulation or actively ovulating.

Everything boils down to giving the woman the opportunity to visit you without alerting her family/friends/social group that she is trying to get dick from an older man who is nearly a total stranger.
Every woman wants to be 'swept away' in the power and virility of an older man with an impossibly large power gap between them.
That is what they want instinctively.
Modern courtship ideas/interpersonal relations are all based of of what women think they want or what they say they want. But women do not know what they actually want or need, and would never admit to it anyways even if they were aware.
Women crave hypergamy in pursuit of the ultimate mate. The man who will inseminate her while she is fertile. If you present yourself as a mate, not a """"partner"""" or boyfriend or other fake and gay shit made up by Christians and feminists, thats how you get prime teen pussy.

The consequences for this behavior will be vast and will last essentially a lifetime since you will be creating more humans and lots of angry moms that you didnt "step up" to be her pseudo-husband forever just because she wanted to get creampied, but most of those consequences can be avoided with more primate behavior: Getting the fuck out when the nagging starts, and letting the beta males step in for your sloppy seconds and to try and reproduce with the single mom.

You can post your cope if you want now. My newesr teenage fuckmeat is coming over to stay the night after having ate dinner with her family, and you can be sure im going to dump a raw load in her and then cuddle her up against me and hold her there for a hour or so while my sperm have time to get in there, before she can wash it out. She knows how babies are made. She knows what can happen. She's going to do it any ways because she loves daddy dick, and she loves coming her brains out while a man more than twice her size in kg ravishes her body. Is it stupid? Yes. Is she doing it anyways? Yes.

>>2869906
>>2869908
This might be one of the biggest larps that I've ever read while browsing this shithole for years. Genuinely consider suicide you tremendous faggot.

You can talk about social media all you want. Dating apps. Statistics. Etc. But its all cope.
I did it. Multiple times. I've got two different states and two different countries after me for child support.
Dating apps are a humiliation ritual where you are sacrificed on the altar of the algorithm.
Even in the midst of my full on harem situations, I occasionally checked dating apps for a laugh. Blown out nubile teen sleeping bed next to me exhausted from a session, but the algorithm feeding me fat women and trannies. Its Jewish shit. Its fake, and gay.
Its not real. Its just not. The only use dating apps have is to get socials, and then begin forming a network of her younger friends and siblings.

Match with the fat single moms. Get their Facebook. Then message her young cousins or sister. Or have a nice social page and let them come to you. Thats how you actually play the game.
I almost never fuck off a dating app. Just find women in my area, then use them as a starting point for a network.

>>2869909
You are the betamale after my scraps. Go forth and court the single moms and be a good little cuck and raise my kids.
I already won the game. This was just advice for pitiful retards who actually think women or other unfucked males are giving them actionable info.

>>2869915
Please get professional help before you end up in those pedophile catcher shows.

>>2867670
>they
>their
You're a sad old fuck pretending to be "hip" to impress youngsters and you deserve to be alone

>>2869906
>>2869908
Based and redpilled

>>2869906
>>2869908
Based colonizer

>>2869891
Nah you’re all cope. Anyone’s idea of the ideal man is in his 30s with the combination of experience, health, wealth, status, maturity, virility, and looks at the optimal time. Not a retarded swag fag with a cross earring parroting TikTok slang

No one has a wider range of access to pussy domestically and globally than a man in his 30s anything else is cope

>>2869949
Keep telling yourself your best days are to come. Men peak at 40. You're definitely going to be banging 18 year old chicks left and right any minute now. Don't ever get up. Follow your dreams. You can do anything you want, I promise you.

>>2869953
If all you care about is having sex like an animal then sure, you peak at 22. You're obviously either a teenager or a Chad wannabe incel who never go it out of his system

>>2869962
This whole thread is about having sex with young women and partying lmao. Yeah sure you'll make more money when you're older but you can make money anytime in life. Youth and what you can experience with it is invaluable. You can cope about your peak being later just because you have more numbers in your bank account but by far no one gives a shit and even Bezos would give up his wealth empire to be reborn as an attractive Chad.

>>2869963
I doubt it because he found his higher calling in life and is past being a coombrained degenerate like you

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>>2869966
Being an oofy doody husband to some plastic monstrosity... way to go.

Pic related fate of all the careermaxxers itt.
>imagine being one of the wealthiest and most influential men on planet only to get disrespected because you can't cheat your subhuman genetics
B-but m-muh masculine virility, maturity and s-stability!!1

>>2869968
>H-hea an oofy doify because his wife is hugging man at a social event and looking up at him because he's way taller than her? And she's SMILING!
Are you retarded? This is just basic social skills, stop reading into it so much.

He could buy a harem of 10,000 10/10 18 year olds and never fuck the same woman in his lifetime, but you're trying to downplay what he has (because you ain't got shit). Kek. Literal brain damage

>>2869970
I bet your girlfriend does that shit too and that's how you cope fag LMAO

If someone like Bezos fucked a bunch of 18 year olds it would leak 100% and he'd be called a nonce by everyone
Then his plastic bimbo wife would divorce rape him

Keep coping buddy boys
Your life will begin at 45 when you're at peak trust

>>2869953
>>2869962
You’re both wrong and responding to different people

A 32 yo can bang the entire spectrum of women in their teens, 20s and 30s.
A 22 yo is limited to basically 18-21 because girls universally find men the same age or older the ick. A 22 yo is seen as a baby to 90% of fuckable women who are off the table. Additionally, zoomer men probably live at home or with roommates and are logistically handicap to even have a place to fuck. The factors stacked against them far outweigh the minority of women who don’t like age gaps

30s are better for men for quantity of sex and quality relationships.

>>2869972
Why do you keep falsely equivocating a 30 something to a 40, 45, Jeff bezos aged man? Will you next equate a 30 yo to an 80 yo? Disingenuous coper who’s not fooling anyone with your Jewish dishonesty

>>2869972
You're pushing 40 and still thinking like a teenager. Listen to your hero Clavicular speak at length on a podcast, he doesn't even enjoy fucking. Once you gooners "ascend" it's all about the power trip and ego, like getting as high of a body count as possible.

>>2869980
Because he's a wannabe Chad who's still chasing the pussy carrot on a stick. He doesn't actually think being an average male failing to get laid at the club 9/10 nights is better than being an established male, it's just a coping mechanism

>established male
>peaking at 30s
>having a harem of 16 year olds supposedly
>all the while posting on 4chan
>thinking their shitty 9-5 is better than being a famous streamer just because he is "gay"

What the fuck I am reading
I hope jannies nuke this thread and all those within

>having an intellectual debate about human sexuality despite being an uncel with no hope of getting any without paying
Kek

>>2869991
Paypigs are the most delusional type of men I shit you not. You'll see complete subhuman incels in places like Pattaya who think they're some kind of players because they can pay some jungle gook goblins to fuck while they're being bled dry. I could hardly contain my shit when talking to these idiots IRL over a couple of beers. It's even more funny when they'll call them "girlfriends" and will get a call IRL requesting money for some bullshit and they'll happily oblige.

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>>2869989
>t. failure to launch peter pan syndrome minimum wagie

>>2870032
I guess I am never growing up because I refuse to get full time wage slave job. I work seasonally, half a year, and then travel for rest of the year or pursue whatever I'm interested in my free time. Every time I speak to someone who has no time at all to do what they want and hate their job I want to kill myself by proxy.

>>2870040
So you choose to work minimum wage for pennies and retire in a cardboard box instead of maximizing the value of your labor and/or finding a form of labor that allows you to travel. Is that actually a choice or were you forced into it?

cope containment thread

>>2870049
>pennies
NTA, but I net $3000 a month working "minimum wage" seasonal grunt work in America. Monday to Friday, 40 hours a week. That's the average after tax salary of a lifetime career slave in Europoor countries, kek. Money shortage has never been a problem for me.

>>2870071
If hes only working six months a year that's less than minimum wage.

>>2870049
>>2870074
I don't get paid that little. I don't make a ton but I definitely make more than enough for what I do. There's better paid seasonal work available but I really fuck with the place where I'm at. I'm not sure why you're coping about my finances when I'm free to do whatever I want for most of the year. Even while working the shoulder season is me mostly sitting on my thumbs and doing nothing. It gets busy during the peak but I prefer it as I get paid for every single extra hour that I'm there. I have very little stress in my day to day life. I dont think I'd trade it for even a similar position that paid more if it meant more stress. For long term happiness feeling chilled out and free is very important IMHO.

>Western women
>are massive sluts but also have super high standards, only going for top 20% of guys

>Eastern women
>lower standards but also super trad and won't do anything sexual until at least 5 dates and meeting parents
>the rest are either prostitutes or scammers

It's over
Seriously, where in the world can an average guy travel for casual one night stands with no commitment earned through rizz alone, just like a regular Chads?

>>2870078
To depths of some African shitholes probably. It's over for the average schmuck.

>>2870014
Fuck India and fuck brokies

>>2870078
Fuck off incel dork

>>2869925
Fuck off zoomer gender youngster loser. Get ready for your Iran conscription

>>2870078
#1 Philippines
#2 rest of South east Asia
#3 South America

Africa/india who knows or cares

>>2869908
Where do you find these chicks and how do you court them?

>>2870077
>For long term happiness feeling chilled out and free is very important IMHO.
This dude understands.
I was an air traffic controller for 10 years. Mandatory 10 hour days due to staffing issues and a break room full of malingering browns and women who can't do the job but show up because they cannot be fired. They "worked" 2 hours a day in the slowest assist positions, then we're never seen again. Meanwhile capable men like me were forced to work the busiest sectors all day every day, getting paid the same as the worthless brown/foid chaff.
I've never been so stressed out in my life, I developed anxiety and extreme anger issues, and crashed out.
Wasn't worth it.

>>2870104
Im not interested in helping you get laid with a step by step guide, but I will give you this important wisdom.

Always remember that women dont know what they want.
So tell women what to do. The less work their brain has to do, the wetter her pussy will get, and faster too.

>>2870114
Lmao
Remember when you buy American products or services this is what you're supporting

>>2870115
What would be an example of "telling women what to do"?
Are you interested in sharing more wisdom and stories?

>>2867607
lol this is the saddest thread on /trv/ in months

you’re just another 35yo balding loner who flew to Thailand to pay triple for pussy and still got called “grandpa” by 18y/os who were texting their Thai boyfriend the whole time

all the “crypto millionaire” “I have 8 kids from 16 year old teens” “big daddy cock re-arranges guts” degenerates in here typing this shit from their sweaty Pattaya hotel room at 4am after another night of humiliation

just stay home and touch grass instead of becoming some lonely Thai cuck larper

>>2870182
Ricecel cope. With enough time, I could literally bang every single woman in southeast asia. I just got back from a short trip and banged 11 high tier gooks with little effort as an above average white male. I also colonized China and Japan, though the casual dating culture is less favorable there.

Also, Thai hookers who fuck 1000+ white boomers in their life have microdick Thai cuck boyfriends, and this is a flex?

>>2870182
I'm 32 but have perfect skin and youthful looks. I can pass for mid twenties easily. I'm getting tons of matches and dates with Thai cuties, even a few 20 year olds. You just have to smile and not be a weird fuck

>>2870185
Prove it dork, I don't think people who can pull like that talk the way you talk. LARP

>>2870188
Only thing you pathetic retard colonized is the inside of a gas station condom, you paid for disease ridden pussy 19yos give their Thai BF for free then came back to larp as Genghis while flexing "perfect skin at 32" like an actual retard

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>>2870192
>>2870195
>le proof

Comments like this and the bedsheets ruined after every gook bitch. Now cope

>Thai BF get for free
Lmao holy shit how disconnected are you from reality? You're bragging that a ricedick is the cuck to a diseased prostitute? In the real, non-sex worker world, asian girls give it up to bwc for nothing, while a ricecel has to put in maximum effort with money/gifts/dates and commit to a relationship for any hope to get laid. There's no such thing as a woman who lusts for ricedick, they may only settle with who puts in enough effort, almost like a gay friend who makes them feel emotionally validated and provided for. There's no such thing, globally, as an ricecel who has casual sex

Whites get it for nothing, while asians pay full price and dedicate their entire life for bwc sloppy seconds.

>>2870199
>screenshots from your last trip of a hooker gaming you to pay up more
Like I said, you talk like an incel so there's no way you actually have game to pull

>>2870200
You’d see sex tapes and live date footage and you’d still cope. Sad ricecel in denial. Your cope lifeline is the delusion that everyone who goes to SEA is a fat boomer who pays for sex, when reality is that average white guys casually fuck normal girls easily. Get back to work so you can provide for your gf who’s been ran through by whites

>>2870211
>I showed one screen cap of two texts that's proof bro!
Kek, no it's not. There's a million LARPers on this board and you're just another one

>>2870211
lol he actually thinks anyone not supporting his delusions is a chink
I hope they get you for all the child hookers you fucked you absolute degenerate

>>2870200
Incelspeak has become normalized among young zoomers, but if he's over thirty this is probably a valid suspicion.

>>2870199
>this is huge
dick stats? I want to know girth specifically

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Being into Asian women is a mental illness. Even the best looking gook gets brutally mogged by random white girl working for Starbucks. Imagine preferring jungle gooks (of all the Asians they're somehow even more subhuman than the rest) to something like this. If you can't pull someone like this it never began for you. You have never ever truly lived if you haven't had a girl like this show pure, undiluted lust for you.

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Uhh bros do you think my girlfriend is legit? I've heard that water buffalo get sick often.

>>2870263
Kek

Better LARP next time fag

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>>2870266
I'm 37 and she says I look 17
I get carded all the time in states
I'm also a male model but that was before my crypto millions
I pass for early 20s realistically so that's why I get a lot of messages from Thai cuties

From my experience in the developed world
1. Looks
2. Access
3. Game
4. Status
5. Money

Money doesn't matter almost at all in the developed world, nobody gaf what your car is or that you're a CFO from a multinational company. Money only enhances/multiplies the positive things about you. If you're still ugly out of shape and bald it doesn't matter much unless you get a purely transactional gold digger relationship.

A broke fitness trainer or bartender will have 10x success in dating than a rich dude grinding it out in corporate who is only around dudes, destroyed his looks by stress, shitty food and is balding. He will put the girl on pedestal that the broke fitness gym bro dumped for another girl on his roster.

Guys, don't be a goy and destroy your vitality and youthfulness for your corporate overlord.

>>2870269
No way youre 37. Maybe 20 max. Don't fuck with us bro.

>>2870129
Sure I guess.
Basically, you just bring them along with whatever you want to do that day
>we are doing this and going here, bring s day pack with water and some granola bars
>we are going to this dog Cafe today
>im going to go see movie at (time), come with me
>im taking a trip to (small island accessible by ferry), we leave at 8am, so be at my apartment by 7am
Tell her what to do. Tell her the plan. Do things you personally want to do, and make her an accessory to the activity. Never base an activity off what a woman wants to do.
The caveat is if she specifically asks you first, indicating she wants to do something with you. But she has to initiate it.
Never ever ask a woman what she wants to do.

In terms of daily interaction its also straightforward if you follow the rule.
Never say
>I feel like
>do you want
>will you

Say
>come here
>stop that
>take this
Direct statements that leave no room for interpretation or thinking.

The whole point is to establish yourself as her patriarch, and most women prefer it. The ones who don't want it are trouble and if they fuss let them loose, never simp for a woman just because you didnt get to try her pussy.

When it comes to evening routine, you just tell them to come over
>I just took a shower after the gym, come over
>I just finished dinner, come over
>Im going to watch a movie, come over
If your physical relationship is well established
>come over, I want to fuck you
>let's fuck
>come here and get on my cock

This sounds cringe, but its how women actually want to be communicated with by men they are legitimately attracted to.
If she gives you shit or brushes you off too often, then guess what? She's not actually into you, and has ulterior motives. So cut her loose. Its good to figure that out sooner or later.

If you want to fuck her after meeting her the first time you can just say so. You can adjust your verbiage as needed for how down she seems.

>I like you, let's skip the rest of the date and go fuck.
>Come see my apartment, its nearby
And the old reliable, if she's looking bored
>This place is lame. Lets go fuck.

Because if you are meeting young women especially teenagers, what they really just want to do is fuck. They dont want a date. They want their back blown out, and then to get back to browsing tiktok or whatever.
Some of these retarded zoomettes will even want to be ON their phone while you fuck them, which I personally think is kind of hot in a weird way, watching them lose their composure or fuck up in a mobile legends match and get reported by their team for throwing, because she cannot concentrate due to being deep dicked.

Tl;dr if a non white woman talks to you online and agrees to meet you in person, she is hoping it leads to sex. So you can offer it after the initial pleasantries are done, and you detect she doesnt care about getting to know you or enjoying the venue.

No the cock shock thing is real. My current girl is 150cm and 37kg. Very small.
The first time she saw my fully hard cock she looked amazed and compared it to her wrist and forearm, and it was about as thick as her wrist. She proclaimed it wont fit and that she was going to die. So I said "oh well, good way to die", and put it in her.
After a few sessions, she can now sit down on it fully while riding on top and get herself off as much as she wants in a row before her body gives up.

She's in love with my cock and pets it through my pants when we are out together, or in elevators. Thats just how women are when you actually know how to lay pipe and make them come. They worship you and are affectionate towards you.

If the women you have been with dont act like that towards you? You arent fucking her properly.

>>2869839
Yep, that’s me

>>2870368
>This sounds cringe, but its how women actually want to be communicated with by men they are legitimately attracted to.

Yeah I need to remind myself that they dont comprehend it the same way I do
Thanks for the breakdown

Any advice on cold approaching and getting their number initially or do you usually do this via text on social media?
"Hey you look like my sisters friend"

>>2870386
You can cold approach anywhere in the world.
Just say
>hey you are cute, I'd like to meet you, my name is Anon
Don't block a woman in or get in her way, approach from diagonally in her field of view, dont invade her personal space, if she smiles back step a bit closer.
Once again, you are looking for women who want to meet men. If she doesnt like this or doesnt like you, you will know it straight away. Women know if they will fuck a man within 10-15 seconds of meeting him.
If she makes eye contact and smiles, you can probably fuck her if you play the game correctly. If she acts shy or evasive or bothered or anything but eye contact+smile, just give her the old
>okay have a nice day
And leave.

Its really that simple. Men just dont do it because they are retarded pussies these days, and the only ones who do do it are so retarded they dont know they are undesirable (ie indians).

If you see her walking approaching you dont stand in her path. Just stop, stand where you are and smile at look at her. If she stops to look at you, its the signal that she wants to be approached. If she refuses to look at you or carries on, also no chance she's into you.
Women can detect 'potential mates' literally in their peripheral vision. If she doesnt register your build/posture/look on your face as worthy of beginning courtship, she wont even stop.

I cant give you a full play by play, but if youre just farming contacts all you do is introduce yourself and get her socials.

Online game is essentially the same but digital.

Friendly intro, gauge response. Determine personality/desires, pic your moves.

My only bit of setup advice is have a story /backstory and stick to it in the location you are in. If these women know each other and find out you are not consistent about basic stuff like your supposed job or nationality, it can ruin your network.

So basically treat it like an RPG, and you are playing a new character each time you 'go again'.

>this sounds really basic and simple
It is. Primate psychology isnt that complicated. You dont need to make it complicated.
You just need to do it. The hardest part starting out is learning to handle rejection or being ignored entirely, especially by the women you are personally very attracted to.
If you can get over the rejection hurdle, the only limit you have is your personal energy level and tolerance for female behavior.

This isnt pick up artist advice. Its stuff our fathers should have explained to us, but they didnt, because they were probably deracinated, feminized tax cattle, if they are boomer generation or Gen x.

You can't find a single poster on 4chan who can legitimately say their fathers coached them on how to meet and attract women. Instead, you will find that most of us had dads who said to "respect women" and always "ask permission".

Go hit on the mid chicks, go flirt with a chubby asian girl, hell go seduce a mid chubby for practice.
Women are fun and cute and nice to talk to once you get comfortable doing it. They love men who can confidently talk to them befriend them and also fuck their brains out. You will have an amazing life once you stop fearing interaction with women, and instead view it as an exciting opportunity and a game.
So just go do it.

I already won the game, and I started by just going and forcing myself to do it.

This last part will probably hurt the most but bear with me.
If you spend several hours a day playing video games, you probably arent going to fuck unless youve got your digital harem set up and operating.
If you want to get some shit done in your life and learn the very important skill of habdling women, then drop the gaming addiction for awhile.
Use that spare time to grind other shit irl be it fitness/health/diet, or actively being out there interacting with people.

You cut out the gaming time youre already above a huge cohort of absolute fucking slob retards who are wasting their lives zonked out with the Bing Bing wahoo.

If you want those monke results you need to do the monke stuff, and monke doesnt play vidya.

Bros writing essays about being a casanova when he's paying hookers in Thailand jfl

Only on trv

If you have a ton of money to blow on nightlife and prostitutes, sure. But travel is not the best way to live it up. Just move to the best nightlife city in your country and establish yourself there. Get to know the nightlife workers, frequenters, and bartenders. Even better if you can be some of note professionally but that’s not even necessary. You’ll get to party with sluts and all that simply if you’re a cool guy in the nightlife, media, modeling, fashion, etc. scene.

>>2870405
Seething incel stuck at home

>>2870412
I am at home and I have sex with non prostitutes that also happen to be European. I'd kill myself if I had to resort to being a sex pest in a third world country. See >>2870260.

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What do you choose?

Whores with STDs that look like they were made with TES Oblivion character sliders...

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...or cute beckies that won't charge a dime and will come with you to hotel room after a fun night out?

Oh wait...

There is no choice.

You're an incel.

You've never got anything back home and you never had any choice in the matter. As Saint Hamudi said: if you have no hair you have no life. Norwood reaper beckons you to Thailand, Philippines...

>>2870389
>>2870391
>>2870392
>>2870393
>>2870411
Here's a YouTube video of how this would look IRL if youre not the one to read walls of essays

https://youtu.be/zSUQWgSnAnA?is=slc-BvtzzgTVlKBv

>>2870434
>Norwood reaper beckons you to Thailand
Meanwhile Thai women hate bald men lmao you dumbass bitch

>>2870452
Every woman, black, white, Chinese, hates balding men. It's just SEA is great for paypigs because Thailand is pretty much an open air brothel. It's still cheap. This is also why sexpests are the ones who are the most sensitive about prices going up because if it happens enough they will be priced out. For normies like me it doesn't matter because a short holiday is still cheap in Thailand, but for some balding subhuman is brutally over that their Thai "girlfriend" needs more money for water buffalo...

>>2870393
After all these years of pickup artists, red pillers, and maxxers somehow people still don’t understand that looks, money, and status are how you attract women. Gaming is completely fucking irrelevant. The only reason it kinda sorta matters in any way is in so far as it inhibits looks, money, or status.

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>>2870480
Its over for Cavill

>>2870480
Nah, depending on the location, game can make a really big difference because after all 95% of the time you have to make the moves or atleast understand the subtle communication of a girl. This is especially in western countries the case, where there's alot of hard to catch games being played and girls are very aloof, and sensitive to bad game.

Game is much less important outside of western developed countries.

Of course the better you look and the higher status you have, the less game is required. But unless you have a international celebrity status, you'll absolutely have to run some sort of game and having none means you don't even understand what moves a girl expects you to do in a certain moment because she won't tell you directly.
But again, this is for western countries.

>>2870496
Nta
Ive lived in Europe all of my life ive literally never had any game or strategy whatsoever beyond existing
Like I've been so stupidly autistic, dumb and the opposite of some kind of an alpha masculine type in front of women and I still got laid while the girl was doing 90% of work
I'm decently tall, I got a good face and I'm young
I feel like game and everything else is completely made up shit
All the guys who I know who slayed a lot had good looks and natural confidence that comes from constant positive reinforcement

I cheated once and was talking to this girl completely friendly like told her I got a gf ill be seeing soon but she still ended up inviting me for drinks and she sucked my dick after
That was after I gave every indication I'm taken and I acted in the most onions, beta way

Confidence etc. matters more for social interactions at a broader level but I feel like sex, relationships and hook ups is 99% your appearance
I feel like every time I tried talking to a girl I could tell she had made up her mind if she will fuck me in the first five seconds of having checked me out

Granted I'm not autistic and I act very normal IRL

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>>2870470

I'm bald and got lots of pussy in China. What now

>>2870503
Asians are significantly worse looking than Europeans. JBW is carrying you. Asia is probably the last place in the world (ok maybe Africa is on the table) where an average looking white guy still has some kind of genuine female attention. Anywhere in the West looks have gone up so much 80% of men are not truly competitive

>>2870499
Well I think we're talking about the same thing, you call it confidence, I call it game.
What I mean with game isn't trying to turn around a girl that absolutely doesn't want you, rather saying the right things in the right moments, knowing when and how to escalate, being true to yourself, recognizing chances, not being needy, being able to put her in her place and not saying retarded shit.
There's alot of stuff that happened between you meeting her and her sucking your dick, but you're a natural so it's like breathing for you. Even just going up to her and chat her up is already game for me too. Not being needy, not overly flirty, confident but not arrogant... You can absolutely fuck up your chances very quickly if you don't know how to talk.
Consider yourself lucky in this regard, because most dudes are just clueless.

>>2870503
When and where?
China changes alot in the last 10 years, first when Xi took power and then after covid.
I think being white now in China is even more exotic than it was 10 years ago for example, when it was kind of hip for students and workers to go stay in China for a year or so, so there were more foreigners there and the xenophobia was much lower I suppose.

>>2870496
Game is bullshit dude. What people call game is actually just the vibe that people have which signals social proof and prestige. If you are somebody, you can talk to people easily. Thats why people seem to think “game” exists. They confuse the fruits of the thing that attracts with women with the thing that attracts women. But more to the point, women decide in 5 seconds when they meet a man whether she’d fuck him or not. They decide based on looks, money, that vibe, and especially social proof. You could be ass ugly but if you’re a cool DJ playing in nightclubs you will get prime girls. You could totally broke, but if you’re hot and fun, they’ll get with you. You could be a total loner but if you’re rich and hot, they’ll be into you. It’s looks, money, and social proof that attracts women. It doesn’t necessarily keep them or give you what you want, but it’s what brings women to your table at all in the first place. And that’s really all it comes down to. If you’re ugly, broke, and a loner, no amount of “game” is going to make women want to fuck you.

>>2870389
Thanks for the breakdown.
If you have any general understanding and knowledge about how women act and operate, that would be great

One of my understandings is to build trust and connection and when they are ovulating they will text you "hey" and then you basically invite them to fuck asap.
These last few years ive been lacking approaching and finding women, mostly because i want to find a good one to knock up a few times and stick with

>>2869925
Nobody is trying to "be hip and fit in with youngsters" you pathetic mutant.

>>2870543
I agree to a certain degree.
You underestimate how retarded and autistic some dudes can be to fuck up easy hook ups.
The things you mentioned are the foot in the door. You still have to talk smooth to a certain degree. Sometimes more sometimes less. The lower your standards the less it matters.

>>2870757
There's a difference between being slightly awkward (which doesn't really matter if youre ok looking, girls thinks its cute if a hot guy is shy) and genuine neurodivergence. The latter is debilitating in every social situation, not just wheen hooking up and romance. Some diagnosed autist won't learn "game", which, even assuming it works, runs on being able to read body language and social cues. Autists are blind to that shit. Some of the shit in game is genuinely weird and convuluted gaslighting trying to make the girl feel insecure and that shit is genuinely completely unnecessary. These autists think they can "neg" a hot girl who has had nothing but positive reinforcement all her life and has nearly endless choice for mates. It's just all so stupid and convoluted no wonder why it died out and only Indians and other 3rd worlders take this shit seriously as they're always years behind West. The reason why it's so convoluted is that they used to sell courses to idiots and to make it compelling to buy it had to look like there's secrets and insider knowledge. In reality it's incredibly straightforward and once you understand this youre so much freer.

What genuinely works is being exposed to social situations. Anyone with normally wired brain quickly picks upon social ques, how to pace conversations, etc. Some awkward dude will learn more about talking to girls just by travelling and staying in hostels over reading some PUA autistic ebook.