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question for my fellow white american men (I'm not asking other races because different races will have different experiences) :

how do western european girls treat you when you're over there in europe. are they nice and flirtatious, indifferent/aloof, or rude and/or hostile like american women?

basically, is it worth traveling to EU try to get free hookups and sex, or is it just better to go to the usual sex tourist spots
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>>2870737
No, Western Europeans have high standards.
However, going anywhere as a traveler will grant you more success than at home, inherently because you're traveling. You don't have to worry about being a loser wagie living with parents, instead you get to be a cool mysterious traveler with plenty of opportunities to talk to women.
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>>2870737
Another of the these threads?

If women are rude and dismissive to you back home it is because you're unattractive. Could be your face. Could be your height. Could be that you have tiny frame. Could be a mix.

People are generally better looking in Europe and also taller so you're fuck out of luck.
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It's easier to get laid in America than in Europe, that's for sure.
People are more open to strangers in USA than Europe aswell.

If you can't get laid in USA, you won't get laid in Europe.

Previously I would've said you might have had the USA passport greencard bonus, but since the orange man is on a rampage I'm not so sure about that for western Europe.
Although if you go to the poorer parts of Europe, I'm sure there'll be girls interested into you just because you're American .It's better to live in tropical Florida than in an eastern European commieblock with 8 months of winter and Grey sky.
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>>2870756
Stop trying to equate curiosity about / admiration for America with sexual desire for a man simply because he is American. That's not how human sexuality works.

Otherwise you're correct about Americans being more casually friendly with strangers than Europeans. It's rare that you approach an American with some question and get rudely dismissed as a nuisance. Americans are suckers for smiling politeness.
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>>2870740
american whites r actually taller unless u meab the netherlands... was shocked to find this out bcuz i thought people would be more commo ly my height.
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>>2870737
If you can't get laid in the US, then don't bother. All I every read from other mutts is that western europe girls are "stuck up" and hard to get. If you just want to fuck euro girls, then go to Benidorm, Magaluf, Lloret de Mar, or Varna in Bulgaria during Summer and get a drunken slag. They might be hard to get in there home, but it changes during vacation. Though you might end up fucking a 16 year old, so just be careful
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>>2870809
Whatever you say bro but reality is there is still alot of people that would to anything to live in the USA.
Especially in Eastern Europe.
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>>2870811
I've met a lot of Americans through tourism and no, they're kind of like Brits. Not mogger height on average like Germans but definitely taller than Meds. Slavs and Germanic Europe are the tallest people on the planet.
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>>2870824
Places like Poland are rapidly developing. Many of them are leaving UK and other countries they've emigrated to when the times were hard and going back. They're catching up to European standards and will soon overtake some countries like UK which have been economically stagnant for a very long time. The idea that Eastern Europe is poor is quite outdated. Unless you count actual Eastern European countries like Belarus, Ukraine and Russia as those are completely different stories and two of them are at war with each other.
The fact is that even though USA makes more than every European country not make Europeans want to live there. It's not as homogeneous, the culture is very different and more work intensive and you don't get the same benefits you get from the government over here. It’s appalling to imagine working shitloads of unpaid overtime and barely having any time off for Euros, but it's the norm in USA. Plus it's much more violent and degenerate overall. There might be some really bad areas full of migrants in Europe but its nothing like what a proper ghetto you get in US.
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>>2870837
It doesn't make Europeans want to live there*
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>>2870837
I've been to both places and know Poland well. Overall USA is still a better place to live and offers much more economic mobility.
Poland is ok if you are fine with never getting to any kind of wealth, value "muh homogenous white country", like cold weather and cold people.
Even though the USA is currently doing everything it can to destroy itself, I'm still very cautious about a good future for Poland solely because of geopolitics.
Mutts are lucky to live far away from the old continent and all the shenanigans they cause.
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>>2870908
Also worrying of course is the fact that 2/3 of breeding-age women in Poland are choosing not to have children, and many of them are choosing not to have a man in their life either. They go on coomer vacations to faraway tropical places, come back with a new tattoo and a whole bunch of steamy memories to view the ordinary working Polish man with deep disdain.
>>2870822
But there are innumerable reports of charming Americans meeting French/English/German girls overseas in some tropical place, and within a few hours they are fugging. They only feel horny in hot weather it seems.
>>2870837
LMAO no, overtime is always paid for. Americans sure as hell wouldn't be workaholics if they weren't getting paid good money for it. Robbery and theft from private individuals is much rarer in America than in Europe thanks to the prevalence of concealed carry, but the likelihood of disputes ending in gunshots is 100x higher in America. Americans are much more distrustful of strangers in their personal space, unless they are a city cuck who ignores everyone and behaves as harmlessly as possible hoping that by doing so he will not be victimized. Usually it works. In the USA the loud and obnoxious people get attacked, not the weak and timid. In Europe and Latin America it's the opposite. The strong & bold feel invincible, and the weak feel vulnerable.
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>>2870908
What's the point of "wealth" though? Having money just to have money is kind of pointless. Sure, having 500k dollars in a bank account is nice, but that's not even enough to buy a rundown shack in the US these days. But having even a fraction of that in other countries would be enough to get a pretty nice home. When you convert currencies to US dollars, it looks worthless, but the buying power is much higher. Americans are paying $20 for a basic ass sandwich made with meat glue and plastic cheese these days while some countries have full sit down meals with a drink for $5.
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What is this /pol/ virgin thread doing here?
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>>2870737
White American men should be finding a white American wife, getting a farm, and having lots of children to fix the replacement population problems.
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>>2870837
Eastern Europeans being poor and Commie is still prevalent view to older Americans but they actually fit into the culture well. Melania is a perfect example. The women are very beautiful and traditional so Mothers like them. The only people who don't are the women they're competing for the white men with.
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>>2871497
The women aren't traditional at all. They're more feminine sure (literally all Europeans are when compared to Americs), but they all sleep around, go out and get into working careers.
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>>2870824
No one wants to live in the muttland anymore, it's not the 1990s.
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>>2871501
>they all sleep around, go out and get into working careers
Just like any other women in the world in the 21th century (except for ones in really hardcore Muslim countries, maybe).
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>>2870737
>basically, is it worth traveling to EU try to get free hookups and sex, or is it just better to go to the usual sex tourist spots


fuck no
are you asking if being an american will get you laid ? because most women here are anti american
if you go to paris expecting to get french women, good fucking luck friend (unless you are incredibly good looking, which is a possibility but i highly doubt it since you post here)
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>>2870737
I think they're not as easy as American women can be, but at the same time, they're more grounded.

You know the joke about "women would be against immigration if it was just young foreign women"? That basically happened in WW2. American women complained so much that GIs were coming home saying things like "why can't American women be more like the women in Germany" that anti-fraternization orders banning GIs from being around adult German women were put in place. GIs pretended that these adult women were in fact children to get around this. That's right; your great grandpa may have been so enamored with European women he was willing to pretend to be a pedophile to date them.

>>2870824
Posts from 1995
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>>2871758
Lmao half of eastern Europe would move to the US given the chance.
Public safety and a homogenous society in eastern Europe doesn't make up for the fact that they have western prices but third world wages.
The only way to move up there is through crime or politics.
Not to mention future prospects with bad demographics and bad geography which all Eastern Europeans are well aware of.
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>>2871808
Eastern Europe remains a very affordable place to live (provided you freeze your ass off all winter long and use public transport). In many ways it is more civilizationally developed than barbarian America is. Nobody is driving themselves berserk with an unsustainable workload like is so common in America. And look at how strong the Polish zloty is against the USD. It's gone from 4.9 in October 2022 to 3.6 today. That's a huge gain.
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>>2871808
Not really. Poles are coming back to Poland after living in UK, Ireland and Germany for many years because the economy is good and they prefer their own country. It's not just about money, otherwise us would be flooded with white Europeans because I assume getting work visa isn't too difficult to someone with EU passport. Euros have very different mindset from yanks.
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>>2871880
Affordable with western wages that is, but not if you have a local wage.

>>2871899
Of course you forgot that western Europe managed to become a depressing shithole and for whatever mysterious reasons they only accelerate towards the cliff that sends them into hell.
The times to make good money in western Europe are over aswell, especially because eastern Europe got much more expensive, so you can't take advantage of that arbitrage anymore.

If you want to know the truth, it's near to impossible for eu citizen to get work permit in the US. The only chance was via green card lottery, which has stopped since Trump. But this often also counts for US Americans going to EU, very difficult if not impossible because nobody is going to sponsor your visa.
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>>2870811
Honestly most euros mogs in height. Too bad most of them go bald
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>>2870737
When I was in Poland and Germany I found the local women to be cold and standoffish.
I was 33 years old and am quite average. They simply couldn't be bothered to even converse. The only matches I got on dating apps were from prostitutes or scammers.
Essentially they treated me exactly the same as women in the USA. Neutral or offended that I even thought I had a chance.
Im quite familiar with that
>who are you and why are you talking to me
Look
The only woman who was pleasant to me was a Romanian who I wound up taking around for a couple days, before she hit me up for 300 euro to pay her bills. I "helped" her out, then never heard from her again.


Such is life for charisma man when he isnt somewhere in Asia.
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I find them easier to be honest. Depends on the country but as a mutt I feel like Europe can be easier depending on the country or city.
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>>2874341
To add on to this I feel like I can be more myself around European women and in general nightlife areas feel more vibrant and social. Only NYC compares to like some mid sized southern Euro city. Also women are just skinnier and better put together so just larger pool overall. I don't know where this thread is going but those are my experiences.
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>>2870737
can answer as western euro

>>2870737
>is it worth traveling to EU try to get free hookups and sex,
short answer
No.
long answer
hookup culture is far less pronounced than in the US, you have some places that are genuinely open (like Berlin) but in a different way and it might be hard to connect if you're not already in some community
your best shot are (big) cities with big Universities and hitting up Uni adjacent parties / clubs / bars / events, but unless you're a student yourself or at least <30yo it won't work either
>or is it just better to go to the usual sex tourist spots
yes

from what I heard from US friends, serious (long-term) dating seems to be A LOT easier in i.e. Germany, Austria, BeNeLux etc. than in the US (if you're not bottom of society)
but that's not what you want

>are they nice and flirtatious, indifferent/aloof, or rude and/or hostile like american women?
really depends where you going
generally, there's no negative sentiment against americans (unless you're visibly MAGA, everyone here hates Trump)
and if you can adjust to western / central European dating culture, your chances aren't too bad

but again, casual hookup culture is far less pronounced here
if you didn't been successful at home, you likely won't be either here

if you're <25yo and sporty
>go to sport vacation camps
like one of the Surfcamps along the Atlantic
it's genuinely easy to hook up there

>>2870756
>USA passport greencard bonus
top kek
in most of Europe that's no advantage (especially western / central)
on the contrary, if you'd try to date seriously, I think the default assumption would be that you'd move to Europe and not the other way around
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>>2870824
>still alot of people that would to anything to live in the USA.
Europeans that come today are either from one of the few really rural areas and have really simple jobs
or they have job offers for professional positions that pay double or triple the local salary (i.e. usually >150k/y)
the latter group usually doesn't intent to stay indefinitely and wants to return

>Especially in Eastern Europe.
your picture of eastern Europe is likely stuck 20y ago
salaries in big cities in the baltics, poland, croatia etc. for STEM roles are depending on the sector really close to those in e.g. Germany
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if you're latino, travel to norway or sweden or germany.

the women are tall and they speak english. and they love short latino men. i am 5'6'' my wife is 5'9"

i don't treat her as anything special. i kind of act annoyed around her since she talks too much, and she loves it.

she says i make her feel so feminine. and i got her pregnant.

i hope she leaves me soon cus i dont wanna dump her and break her heart. but i already want to impregnate other women. i told her this and thankfully you can brainwash white women to be ok with anything,

white women are overrated. she is very smart and is a marine scientist or some shit i dont really care , but she is obsessed with dolphins, its cringe as hell.

anyways western european love short latino men. im very confident. and i feel better than any other man.

i think european women weakness is latino men.

cant wait to impregnate more white women since white men dont do it.

also alot of latina women love white men, so basically its just opposites attract.

i welcome all white men to impregnante latinas women
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>>2874364
>i welcome all white men to impregnante latinas women
Thank you.
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>>2870737

there is a subsection of european girls that very much want to speak english and be worldly and like western countries
you dont need to impress every girl but a few will be very into it
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>>2874348
>from what I heard from US friends, serious (long-term) dating seems to be A LOT easier in i.e. Germany, Austria, BeNeLux etc. than in the US (if you're not bottom of society)
This is what I was getting at with this >>2874343
I feel like if you want a quality relationship with a semi decently quality women it is much easier to attain in most European countries. Everyone talks about muh european chads but I saw way more normie manlets on the streets with women than I would back in my home city.
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>>2874364
Does this work for 5'7 med guys as well? (italian looking with blue eyes)
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>>2874565
You won't really see too many attractive, young people out on the street randomly during the day because they will be busy with their lives. Go out on a weekend in popular venues and it's Chad central.
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>>2874578
You can say this in any place with nightlife. Don't know what your point is. Either way the guys getting laid are the ones with friend groups or hyper aggressive manlets



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