Does this mean the unwashed masses will be priced out of traveling?
>>2871334I'm just gonna fly thru the warzone. Whatever it takes to coom
>>2871334You're part of the unwashed masses, bro
>>2871334People typically plan their holiday a couple months out. We will see a gradual decline from spontaneous travelers, then a sudden sharp drop in a month or so from now.If you want some cheap as fuck rooms somewhere keep your eyes peeled for when the lack of bookings hits them full force.
Jet fuel can't melt travel dreams.
>>2871334Europeans always wanted to cut carbon emissions, right? This is a perfect excuse to take a lovely electric train instead of pouring all that evil carbon into the air by flying.Personally, I'm gonna pay whatever extortionate price I have to pay to get back to America in July. Until then, IDGAF about all this noise. The supply chain is stable, buses still have fuel, restaurants still have gas. Nothing changes for me.>>2871381Everyone will be going someplace closer to home instead of flying 20000 kilometers for their stupid little holiday, so only some destinations, i.e. those surrounded by poor people who can't afford to vacation in their own damn country, will see a dropoff in visitors.
>>2871334not reallyjust a quick calculation for an example long route>FRA <-> Tokyo>~150-200€ fuel cost one waythis is gonna 2-3x the pricesso the cheap economy round trips will go from ~1000€ to ~1500€which is likely the upper end of increasesshorter flights will see much smaller increasesdemand will definitely softenbut not so much that you will visually notice itunless you fly budget airlinesbut even thereI doubt anyone will stop flying to mallorca just because the flight price is now 100€ instead of 70€, they'll just save somewhere else
>>2871334Oil cost more than $100/barrel throughout most of the period from 2007 to 2014, and still it was the golden age of travel and Ryanair offered 1 euro flights.
>>2871381the problem is flights are already being canceled next month. doesn't really matter when or how much you paid for a flight if there's not enough fuel
>>2871334Yeah except the USA has insane airport gridlock and its making it "gated out" of being able to do it at all. So actually if you are in a specific person, African who has that diamond money, this is the best time to ever go to a rare beach or something.
>>2871560>shorter flights will see much smaller increasesExcept that's not how corporations work. They milk any excuse to raise prices for all it's worth. Fuel surcharges levied on airfares are much higher than the actual cost of the fuel consumed per passenger.>I doubt anyone will stop flying to MallorcaThis much is true. The middle and upper classes have fucktons of spending money. They don't give a fuck how much their vacation getaway costs. They're going to pay whatever price is charged.>>28715972007-2014 was a time period when so many giant corporations were in a race to the bottom for prices in order to attract customers and drive consumer spending. It's history. The global economy is locked firmly in an inflationary bubble, and prices will only go up and up and up.
>>2871626Mass cancellations and delays are a routine occurrence. No use in worrying about the possibility until it actually happens. Oh, and don't book third party tickets. They are the first to be invalidated in case of overbooking.
>>2871673>Except that's not how corporations work. They milk any excuse to raise prices for all it's worth. Fuel surcharges levied on airfares are much higher than the actual cost of the fuel consumed per passenger.That's not how airlines operate due to heavy competition and razor thin profit marginse.g.: Air france - KLM added a 50 eur fuel surcharge because of thishttps://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entreprises/transports/un-aller-retour-en-classe-economique-coutera-50-euros-de-plus-face-a-l-envolee-des-prix-du-kerosene-air-france-et-klm-annoncent-une-hausse-des-tarifs-de-leurs-billets-sur-les-trajets-long-courriers_AD-202603120543.htmlThey operate by hedging 70% of their fuel costs for the next quarter so 30% of of price of fueling an aircraft is on spot priceAn A350 costs about $75,000 USD more to fill up this month than 2 months ago. 3/10ths of this is not hedged so $22,500. Divide that by 300 passengers and the increase would be $75 or €65 each.They are still eating some of the cost increase.
>>2871681>heavy competitionSure, the short-haul routes that are served by ten different carriers will remain affordable, but you can bet your ass that the profit will be raked in from all the other routes where passengers either don't have the luxury of choice, or where the alternative choices are all shitty multi layover routes that involve twice the time and 5x the stress. Here at /trv/ we like to fly to the other side of the world, and that's precisely where fuel costs add up the most, and where there is no real pressure to keep fares low. $700 will be the new $400 for a timely long-haul flight.
>>2871335peak /trv/
>>2871674mass cancellations are normal? lol what?
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Looks like I can still fly Lufthansa Delhi to Denver for about $650 USD in mid July with a single layover in Munich. Shit, if prices are only going to go higher, I might as well book my ticket four months out and get it over with.
I must be one of the unwashed masses, because airfares on so many of the routes I want to take are fucking infuriating. $1500 for a one-way ticket from Central Asia to middle America, booked four months out. This is madness.
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>>2871334not all of them but definitely india
>>2871368No he isn't
Goyim dont deserve to travel.
>priced out of travelingNot quite...but my choices as a budget traveler have become very limited. Just locked down my return ticket to America, which will put me at roughly $1200 USD spent for a complete circumnavigation of the world via six flights. Last two overseas travel seasons I spent $1800 on flights, so even with soaring flight prices I've honed my ability to pounce on a good deal just before the window of opportunity closes. But instead of adventuring around Kyrgyzstan or Hokkaido, I will be smoking weed and eating pad see ew in Thailand for the nth time. It's lame to keep visiting a country over again when so much adventure awaits in new places, but I'm not throwing away my hard-earned money on fucking airline tickets. India - Central Asia - Europe - Colorado would easily run me $2000 with the way fares are currently priced.
Yes, I wanted to book a multi-city ticket and visit Taiwan again for a week, but the airfare would've gone up over 50% to roughly $800. It's infuriating, but that's the New Normal.
>>2871334They already were, something like 60% of people have never been on an airplane.
