Every time I visit NYC I'm baffled as to why I came backIt's so ridiculously filthy, it smells awful, everything is cheap crap, the food is overrated, there's nothing here you couldn't find in Cleveland, Spokane, or anywhere else
Then stop visiting new york, anon.
cleveland was nicer than I expectednyc is to experience crowds for people who come from rural areas
>>2871769Back when the president said Washington was going to get cleaned up, and it did get cleaned up, they evicted all the homeless people from near the White House. I was optimistic that when he said they'd clean up New York as well and make the subways safe to use, I actually thought it was going to happen. I feel like such a fool for believing that.
>>2871769The way /trv/ has such a burning hatred for New York is really funny to me.
>>2871789The subway is the safest it's ever been. Stay in your dead suburb where everything closes at 8:00 PM.
>>2871805is that saying a lot? or does that mean it's still dangerous? Black riff raff look at me with contempt. I can see it in their dilated bloodshot eyes.
>>2871802I think it's because everyone from outside the US is told it's the ultimate way to experience America and you get there and it's arguably the worst part of the country
>>2871769Anywhere there are millions of humans crowded together is going to be dirty and smell bad, because humans always foul their environment. And no, I'm not buying your argument that Spokane offers a travel experience anything like NYC. Most of heartland America is quite sanitized and barely even feels lived-in when compared to NYC or an Old World city. Miles of flawless, 6 feet wide concrete sidewalks that see maybe five pedestrians a day. Acres of vacant space that people spend thousands of dollars to landscape so it looks a little less desolate. 99% of public activity is cars moving around with vague shapes of people behind rolled-up windows. People you will never come face to face with, you will never chat with, you will never even exchange glances with. Because they are always in a fast-moving car.
>>2871869NYC defenders are not capable of writing a complete paragraph without going on a tangent about how much they absolutely hate cars
>>2871869>Anywhere there are millions of humans crowded together is going to be dirty and smell bad, because humans always foul their environment>Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Kyoto, Sapporo, Fukuoka Americans cannot comprehend clean cities
>>2871867Most of the hate comes from Americans.
>>2871802>>2871954Pretty much this. I don't think it's radically different from other European cities I've been to. I think since you're on 4chan, and it's mostly zoomies here. There's a hatred for NYC and the limousine liberal ruling class that are in charge there. The performative way they are enforcing gay race communism there that is just making the city suck more. For example, throwing the book at Daniel Penny while letting BIPOCs immigrants roam the streets.That said, it is a cool city. It is one of the few not destroyed yet by car centric and BIPOC centric planning. That said, it seems they are working around the clock to correct this.
>>2871769I have a friend who stupidly moved there and he said the homeless people target you from an entire block away.They won't leave you alone until you pay or punch themTrash everywhere, if you aren't dead broke the government rapes your pockets.Rats bigger than cats, roaches as big as mice.The only reason I would ever go to NYC was if they were sending death squads for the communists and I got front row seats to the executions
>>2871769okay, stay away then
Euro here, I visited NY back in 2013 when everyone was saying the exact same things this retard here >>2871996 is saying. All of it is false and you know this guy has never visited and only gets his talking points from 4chan.
>>2871769t. transparently seething flyover
>>2872402>Well I visited over a decade ago and didn't experience any of these problems
>>2872402Theres a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth from Southerncels and Midwestcucks where even their "safe" cities like Nashville have 4x the per capita murder rate Da Big Apple.
>>2871802Poor people hate anything that reminds them of their failure. That’s why they all fly to SEA.
>>2871939There can be smells and dirt at those places too. You probably have your anime furry costume when walking through there and don't notice it.>>2871786Hell yes I love that city because it never has bad traffic, I once walked through it, fuck lol there aren't even homeless people there because its cold as hell and nobody has money. Its basedRust Belt is awesome if anyone from Europe comes here, Pittsburgh, do it, its sovl to the maximum. I am NOT saying you will be walking past dizzying amounts of historical statues that make Michelangelo cry by that statement its just a really cool mix of old and new is all im saying a very unique city..Also one thing I have never heard spoken is just go to American Baseball Stadiums its always where the sovl is, not every single one but the good old money ones. Just go on a tour or walk around to save money and time. The Pittsburgh Pirates play with this view of Roberto Clemente bridge. You gotta see REAL America. A lot of people see America as failed cities that do not live up to expectation anymore and that is sad to me.
>>2872464I've been to Pittsburgh but I'm not sure what to see there. What would you recommend? I did the botanical gardens and it was just ok it was more like themed than cool live plants. I don't like sports. I often drive through Pittsburgh on my way to points in Ohio or NW PA for hiking. I've also done the scenic incline, walked around Point Park, I actually mountain biked in Frick Park, and I did an overlook on the south side of town that was nice. I do not like Andy Warhol's art.
>>2871789New York is the third world city now. it will never improve.
>>2871939>Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Kyoto, Sapporo, Fukuoka I've only been to a few of those cities but besides being cleaner there's ironically more to do. NYC is expensive and boring at the same time... in the 1970's and 80's many parts were genuinely dangerous and people were doing heroin in times square but there was cuisine, art, plays, and so on to engage with, you could find parking easily, etc. Rents and degrading human capital dissolved that culture. When people want to visit I honestly have a hard time coming up with an itinerary that isn't overpriced bars and overpriced sports.
>>2871769Apart from finding a place to stay, New York can be a cheap vacation. Just walking around is entertaining enough, public transit is reliable, there’s inexpensive food if you search a bit, and plenty of free to cheap attractions—Coney Island boardwalk, Staten Island ferry, museums that are either free or have “pay what you want” admission. Just avoid tourist traps and don’t be a rube. Of course it smells with all those people and cars in such a confined space. All those scary brown people are just there doing shit jobs to keep the city running and at the end of the day return to outer borough neighborhoods you’ll never set foot in. You’re far far more likely to be a crime victim in Memphis or Baton Rouge. Just don’t act like a dumbfuck and if it’s not for you there’s a whole country to explore that isn’t New York.
>>2871789>I feel like such a fool for believing that.Just say you voted for mamdani and you regret it
>>2871769Multicultural hellhole that glorifies multiculturalism.
>>2871871Car culture is solely to blame for how socially isolated (and fat) America is. 99% of public activity being cars driving around is NOT normal or healthy for human society, and it's time Americans stopped pretending like it's okay. All the good places in America have one thing in common; they have a lot of public life that is lived outside of the automobile.
>>2873775Carcels can’t comprehend that there is life outside their gas guzzlers
>>2871939Tbh, you can occasionally smell raw sewage in those cities. I really thought that was just a third world thing, but to my surprise I had some wiffs of shit.Also Shinjuku is really filthy, full of trash. Probably because it’s a hotspot for debauchery, something I learned too late.But even then, most of Tokyo has some littering problem. Osaka and Kyoto were far cleaner even in tourist areas.
>>2871869>Anywhere there are millions of humans crowded together is going to be dirty and smell badcomplete lie, nyc is a corrupt zero sum municipality, they make next no effort to reduce filth, homeless or crime, where as at least in the west coast, its spacious and a natural setting, offers some of earths greatest landsites (cali), you can have a balance, nyc is a gulag shit hole for optimized for the very rich, street gangs, or ironic art hoes, its not a place meant for the enlightened soul, not anymore
