I’m looking at moving to Japan for about 6-7 months a year. I work in hospitality and have a strong culinary background as well. I bartend a beach bar in the summers currently and I’d like to settle down for the off seasons, maybe buy a house and get married eventually. I’m planning on completing Genki 1 and 2 this summer, then traveling to Tokyo in the fall for about a month to see how feasible it is. I am confident I could work in a tourist or international hotel bar, the culinarian in me knows I should also consider being a line cook, it is a passion of mine and my resume in both regards is impressive.Does anyone have any advice or recommendations? I have never worked internationally before.Thank you.
>>2874714Unless you are of the correct age (under 30 i believe) and from a a country that offers working holiday visa, this plan sounds dead in the water. You can't stay in Japan for that long, let alone work while doing it otherwise. And even if you meet this criteria, working holiday visa can only be gotten once in a lifetime.Then if you go 1 step beyond, to a proper working visa, you would be committing to much longer over there, and for your experience areas I don't think they'd be areas they want foreigners. Let alone ones that speak no Japanese (and Genki 2 level counts as essentially no Japanese for this purpose).Well actually an alternate option I'd say is, get a 6 month student visa and study Japanese while working part time. Though you aren't allowed to work in bars or anything nightlife related as a student.Also, it sounds like you've never even visited, so this is all hopium, before we even get to the wife/buying a house part. You will have no functional Japanese skills, no cultural knowledge, very low paying work if you can even get it in your two areas of experience. Plus Everything is only getting more and more difficult to with being a Gaijin in Japan currently, rules are changing every week and not in any way that makes it easier.
>>2874774In theory can get in on an SSW visa. All he needs for that is n4 or a2 on some other test. He'll be working 40 hours a week just to take home $800 bucks a month or so. It's a comically naive hopium larp because no westerner is dumb enough to work like a slave for $4.50 an hour, and if they are they are too dumb to get the N4 or to survive in a foreign country
>>2874774I have been to Japan before, and from what I understand foreigners can be offered jobs in hospitality under SSW visas. I mean , I’ve seen it plenty with my own eyes. I would also ensure I was at N4 proficiency at that point. I understand the contention with people making these types of threads on 4chan of all places, hell it’s practically a joke at this point. But I do take my career seriously and I have known people who have worked in Japan specifically in restaurants and bars at least temporarily and at the very least it has been good for their careers back home afterwards.I make enough in the US to support myself for a decent amount of time at least initially.Even if I was only able to get a working visa for the first time, if I learned enough and was comfortable I would consider buying a house and returning for the 90 day tourist visa after that.Of course at that point I don’t think I’d have to ask here for advice anyway
>>2874780> It's a comically naive hopium larp because no westerner is dumb enough to work like a slave for $4.50 an hour, and if they are they are too dumb to get the N4 or to survive in a foreign countryCrazy yes, dumb no. I worked for min wage in NYC at Michelin star restaurants and lived in squalor for my career before, it’s worth it if you really want it.
>>2874714Nobody is going to sponsor a visa and hire you for just half a year. You're a waste of their time and money. You're not going to work as a tourist. Payment under the table and hiring illegals isn't a thing like it is in America. The only illegals who can get away with it are those who are working at restaurants run by family or of the same people, like shady Chinese restaurants hiring fellow Chinese for a few months or Indians doing the same. For those mentioning the SSW visa, they're only going to sponsor people who are clearly going to stay for years. Not some goober who will work for a few months. And for hospitality, they're not going to hire some westerner. They're going to hire some third worlder who, even with Japan's shitty minimum wage, will be satisfied with pay that's above their own country and will stay because it's better than home. Thirdies also tend to become fluent in Japanese pretty quickly.
>>2874849I have personally worked under multiple chefs who have went to Japan to work for six months.
>>2874845I lived in squalor in NYC making near min wage in the hospitality industry too, the money I made from those 6 months lasted me 7 months (and counting) so far, by calculations it can last 2-3 years off of that alone. And during my travels people ask me to work, if you are a foreigner out of work work finds you. It's better to work in a high wage country, completely dedicating yourself to work for a short time, then after slow travel in low wage countries. Use your free time to find income online, or just enjoy yourself and do nothing. After a certain point, you might even want to fly back and work again and repeat the cycle. If you're already doing high turnover work where there's essentially no risk of quitting you might as well live like this.The only problem with Japan is visa runs are harder to do now. Years ago, people used to live in Japan indefinitely, just flying to Korea and coming back in every 90 days. Now, it's more of a crapshoot. So why not start in Japan, do your 90 days there, and then try out another country for 90 days, and then back to Japan etc. You can get your 6 months a year that way
>>2874714Chef David Chang worked in Japan as a chef in the Tokyo Park Hyatt hotel. It's doable.You can show up on a tourist visa and shop for jobs that way if you want. If you find someone willing to sponsor you for an actual Work visa, then all you have to do is board a ferry to South Korea to reset your status. That said, others are right they may be wanting more than a 6 month commitment. Most work visas renew yearly, meaning you'd have to show up and do all the legwork to get your visa re-approved every 11 months or so.
>>2874853> After a certain point, you might even want to fly back and work again and repeat the cycle. If you're already doing high turnover work where there's essentially no risk of quitting you might as well live like this.That’s what makes this work for me, I have a good job in the US for the summer that will take me back every year, I make anywhere from $250-500 a shift and that only goes up when I work a double. Very minimal bills and a high quality of life here too. The off season is just ok which is why I’m willing to take a risk on Japan.>>2874855> they may be wanting more than a 6 month commitment. I don’t know the specifics in Japan obviously, but where I work we get a lot of J1 and H2b visas from overseas that are just here for the seasonal work. This applies to the summer venues on the beach and the winter resorts at the ski lodges. I’d have to imagine there is similar opportunities for seasonal work in Japan too.I know Dave too he gave me the idea that this was workable
>>2874866Here you go:https://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
>>2874866In Japan you'd be making like $35 a shift, how is it worth it to go all the way over there just to be a slave for a pittance? Go there on vacation and be free
>>2874714Gaijin go home. The Japanese don't want you ruining their country.
>>2874879The work experience is huge. And if I can make enough for strong zeros and yakitori that’s perfect for me
>>2874882>The work experience is huge.Lol. Just lie. Fuck are they gonna do? Learn Japanese and make an international phone call at 3am just to audit the line cook minimum wagey?
>>2874940it’s not about a resume it’s about actually honing your skills and getting better at your craft
>>2874949How old are you? 19?
>>2874880/r/japanlife go home. The /trv/ don't want you shitting up the travel board.
>>2874866Im a cucknadian and US green card holder, and in my many experiences with visas for the majority of my life which has been in the US, J visas for actual work, especially low wage work, is always bullshit. They're abusing the definition of an "exchange program" under immigration law. H2b I understandable for some industries. You forgot all the E3 visa holder from Australia doing seasonal jobs like at ski resorts. And if you're wondering, yes the same Australians work at Japanese ski resorts.In general, the following logic applies: How much more is someone worth such that an employer will go through the trouble of taking the time and effort to bring you there? If the job makes sense, sure. If it does not, then you can clearly see why. If you want to make something work, you always can, but you will tradeoff with things like your compensation to make up for whatever you cost or lack. Moving to Japan does not change an industry however, they treat people working in the restaurant industry just like how they treat them anywhere else, at least until you make it.>>2874855>Just become a fine dining chef bro>>2874953>/trv/ don't want you shitting up the travel boardNo real travel to anywhere nice is ever discussed here, 99% of posters are low value males, all seething incels, and every other thread is about some SEA shithole, chink/streetshitter shitholes, and losers with bullshit jobs pretending to work outside of the country. OP is at least bettering himself. Kill yourself.
