Breaking Kevin Durant is buying Six Flags America to develop into new mixed used development slop
https://www.thebanner.com/economy/six-flags-america-kevin-durant-bowie-GJBUVNN4ORE2RDERCHRJVQ7OXM/

>>2874446
>>2874513
Replying to the other thread about the hippogriff coaster. It’s a clone, there are 28 others with the same layout including Dragon at Legoland about an hour away (which is better because they extended the layout to to start with a quick dark ride) and the Woodstock Express at Cedar Point. It’s a good layout for a baby coaster but nothing unique or special. Just a longer version of Barnstormer

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I like how this superman rollercoaster has a themed queue based on the daily planet. Imagine if they had a spider-man outdoor coaster that had the exact same queue as the one at islands of adventure
https://youtu.be/1BHPSurjOH4?t=44

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What could have been
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Century_Fox_World_(Dubai)

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Reminder not to record people you don't know at the parks
https://youtu.be/GWKWSjG5aQs?t=53

what is the deal with theme park youtubers showing store merch NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE FUCKING TSHIRTS

New Disney theme park news from The Wrap
>Shanghai Disney’s plans for Epcot 2 are scrapped. Now the 2nd park will be “something centered on Disney “adventures,” like Avatar” aka more random IPslop lands
>Third Tokyo Disney park (tentative title Disneysky) is being planned
>Reaffirmation that Disney is seriously considering scrapping the DCA Avatar land and bring Zootopia over instead
https://archive.is/1t7g4

>>2874731
>Disneysky

Why does Japan get all the cool shit?

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>>2874718
Imagine if they used this supergirl design instead

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You think magic kingdom could still have a shooting range of some kind? Maybe if they had it in Villain's land and they themed it to Gaston or Clayton from Tarzan?

>>2874736
I never did the shooting gallery because I always assumed it was an upcharge to play and didn't care enough either way.
"Woke Disney" is a played out cheap excuse but I seriously doubt anyone there would push a shooting range attraction these days unless it was a very sanitized boardwalk carnival thing.
And what would be the point anyway?

>>2874738
Anon, I did not give you permission to share my video.

why is everything at disney now catered to 5 year olds? What happened to making scary and actually fun rides and shows?

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Big Thunder reopening May 3rd. I really wanna get back on it but I just know crowds are gonna be ridiculous in the park for a long time I don't know when I should attempt it.
I guess gamble on rainy weather or something.

>>2874748
thats true. you will have to queue up with all the fatties on mobility scooters first

>>2874732
Because OLC runs the show not Disney so they can make investments
Also do not be fooled this likely will just be very nicely wrapped together IP slop

>>2874731
>Third Tokyo Disney park
Where? Everything around the Tokyo Disney Resort is completely full, they definitely don't have any space there, at least nothing the size of a third park. Would they build it somewhere else in Tokyo? A third park in an entirely different part of the country?

>>2874749
>fatties on mobility scooters
dude, chill.

>>2869930
Sup bros.
Visiting the USA in summer this year and I'm thinking of getting a six flags pass.
Can someone confirm if I'm understanding the perks, or if any of these points are incorrect?

- Order prestige pass for Six flags over texas.
- Visit six flags over texas to pick up and do first usage of pass. I Can use my "free friend tickets" on this first visit, right?
- I have all fancy perks/VIP/Parking at this park and friends do too while with me?
- Later in trip visit Cedar Point. I can also visit here as many days as i want, right?
- I can also park for free here, but don't have pass perks/VIP stuff here, right?

Also. I'm thinking of spending 2.5 days at Cedar, one waterpark day included.
Will I be able to do at least the top best rides in that time? Mid July
Appreciate any answers, the info online is hard to parse. Most is people comparing how the pass used to work to how it does now, but that doesn't help if you never knew.

>>2874766
Land reclamation of the bay next to the parks, that’s how they built the original TDL park in the first place
It is costly but will be far cheaper to simply reclaim land than trying to acquiring existing land, and it was the same back 40 years ago. The site is strategic so they will not have the land issues that Disneyland has if they want it while still being in a dense urban environment

Orlando desperately needs a hyper/giga. Mako looks like a hyper’s younger brother, very disappointing. Is there an unwritten rule you can’t go over 200ft? how do funspot/icon park get around it?

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>>2874731
Third park at Tokyo Disney is a no-brainer. The place is already pretty close to capacity year around (although they actually lowered capacity because they felt the parks were too busy which is one of the many reasons the OLC are great)

The zootopia land at Shanghai is pretty great but a clone would be so lazy. Either way, Disney really need to sort out their pipeline for building new shit, whatever they were building should have already been past the groundwork stage by now.

On a related note, here's the boats for the Lion King ride at Paris, a bit funny they didn't go with an African tree style. It's a modern splash mountain but at least it's not a direct clone. Biggest Show building at the resort (PoTC is probably the current biggest). Going to be a book report ride, hopefully this time they'll be sensible and the big drop is Simba or Scar handing off of pride rock and the big final scene is the Circle of Life reprise.

>>2874783
>disney rehashing rides
No surprise there. Their lazy attitude is so apparent when it comes to their US parks.
>inb4 Disney autist says villainsland is unique
They’re fitting ANOTHER magic carpet/dumbo ride in that area. That makes FIVE of the same ride in the park!!

>>2874779
SeaWorld recently included a giga/hyper (I forget which is bigger, fuck you) coaster option in the pass holder survey as to what to build next

Wow, almost a month this time. Mostly a bunch of date changes.
Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:
Florida:
>WDW Cheaper "After 2 PM" available tickets this summer
>"Temporary" checks for Hotel reservations if you hop the bus at Disney Springs. RIP free parking.
>Monsters Inc. at Studios opens 2027?
>'Tropical Americas' replaces dinos 2027
>Rafiki's Planet Watch closed until May 26 for retheme to Bluey and Australian animal petting zoo
>Front Tire Land circa 2028
>Liberty Belle Steamship intact as of late Nov 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain reopens May 3 w/ Rainbow Caverns and a 38" height requirement
>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress
>Buzz Lightyear's OPEN AGAIN NOW!
>Rock N' Rollercoaster Muppets retheme by Summer 2026
>Volcano Bay closed Oct 26, 2026 thru Mar 24, 2027
>Lost Continent demolition underway
>Replacement for Poseidon's Fury to be built by Intamin
>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed thru Nov 19 2026
>Pteranodon Flyers closed thru May 24
>RRR Replacement early 2027?

California:
>Fast and Furious coaster "Summer 2026"
>Mike & Sully closes 2027, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN" has returned in the event announcement voiceovers. Trannies seething.
>Soarin' Over 'Murica by Memorial Day
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Frozen land and Rapunzel teacups, open NOW
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>New scenes in Rivers of the Far West in 2026
>Universal UK set for 2031
>Disney-Adjacent Bluey Roller Coaster at Alton Towers OPEN NOW

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2027
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild (façade complete now!)
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?
Did I miss anything?

>>2874819
> Did I miss anything?
Yes, you fucking missed something, faggot. 50+ Major Theme Parks in the United States, and dozens more in Europe. You report on two, and claim you’re reporting on all. You’re gaslighting

>>2874748
With Vekoma doing the retrack and new trains I wonder if it will still pass kidney stones for people?

>>2874771
It’s a real problem. They make them stand in the lines too and I had one slam into my ankles on an incline in a queue. Then at the ride the person walked out like they had no problem walking. Law and policies state you cannot assume that people using them don’t need them but I think that’s absolutely bullshit. All those fat people are just fucking lazy fat pieces of shit who shouldn’t even be at a theme park. They should be glued to a treadmill 24/7 while holding weights and have IVs of ozempic and goyslop attached to them

>>2874819
>be you
>”wow guys here’s my totally comprehensive theme park update”
>scroll
>it’s literally just another The Walt Disney Company / Universal Destinations & Experiences copypaste list
oh cool thanks man I was really worried I might go 5 minutes without hearing about what color they’re repainting a fence in Orlando
>did I miss anything???
Yeah, like half the fucking planet. imagine typing all of this out and still acting like theme parks are just corporate IP farms where every ride is either Marvel, Star Wars, or “remember that movie from 2003?”

There are parks out there actually building insane coasters and rides that don’t require a lore primer and a Disney+ subscription to understand. Parks where the main attraction isn’t standing in line next to a $12 pretzel and a family of 6 having a meltdown. But nah, (((you))) are locked in the content loop
>new retheme
>new retheme
>ride closed
>ride reopened but now with different hat

Riveting stuff. Like, bro at this point you’re not even reporting news, you’re just reading a corporate changelog out loud. Meanwhile entire parks exist where:
>rides open on time
>don’t get “temporarily” closed for 3 years
>don’t come back as the same ride but now sponsored by whatever IP tested well with focus groups

but those don’t count I guess because Mickey Mouse didn’t personally sign your autograph book. Keep posting your “updates” though. I’m sure next month we’ll get breaking news that a trash can got rethemed to Guardians of the Galaxy and you’ll write 3 paragraphs about the immersive storytelling experience. Faggot

Is there a reason why everyone in this thread seems to fall for bait

>>2874821
Only the multi billion dollar theme parks matter to these people. Even though most of the attractions are boring wastes of money. I recently did Epcot and only liked Guardians. It was fun but it doesn’t even use its IP properly. No animatronics. The rest of the park’s few rides (5? 7?) were all boring. Waited over an hour for the rat ride and it was a stupid boring simulator. Almost fell asleep on the soarin flying theater. The greenhouse boat ride was interesting but not exactly a AAA attraction. The spaceship earth ride was pure torture and a waste of a half hour of my life. The park is garbage. And basically all these parks are like this. Most of the good rides at universal are the kind you find at other parks like the coasters and drop tower and rapids. These billion dollar parks have too many boring dark rides. I like a good dark ride like the haunted mansion with all the little details everywhere but they don’t make rides like that anymore. Did Carowinds on the way home and last year we did Dollywood. Carowinds I got in free with my SF pass. Both were better than anything in Orlando

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>>2874821
Problem?

>>2874824
>You’re just reading a corporate changelog out loud
That's the point, retard.
Believe it or not, I'm not a 'Disney Adult', in any real sense, never even had their streaming subscription. I don't go to the parks unless I get free tickets, which as you might imagine, is quite rare.
This is merely a thing I do to document the fall of these once great cultural centers, and to help those who want to dance on it's rotting corpse figure out times to visit when the experience is at least passable.
Well, and to keep an eye on Tokyo, as this is an anime website, and wouldn't want to go when Space Mountain is closed. Never been over there, but might at some point.
I maintain a changelog here once a month because it's easy.
You should try it.

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>>2874823
Get a grip and stop blaming all people of size for your extremely limited anecdotal bad experiences.

>>2874824
>totally comprehensive
I only ever claim to cover Disney/Universal, retard

Has anyone been to sixflag mexico ? I'm visiting mexico city for 6 days, wondering if it's worth to see

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>>2874833
Oooh poor baby. Is somebody moody bc they got rascal tipped and their tip assist didn’t work today?

>>2874838
I literally had to Google that because I had no idea what you were talking about. No, I've never experienced Southpark-tier levels of sociopathy and idiocy in Disney or Universal because those most likely to act that way are fortunately priced out.

If a park has issues with taking cash payment I immediately think it’s a shit park

>>2874836
Never been but going off rcdb the coasters are mostly a bunch of vekoma clones like junior coasters, an SLC and a boomerang. However, they do have an RMC coaster which is probably worth going for alone. It’s a (former) Premier special, a little park they bought and made into a SF park. It gets a lot of attendance though so will probably be crowded.

>>2874841
It's 2026. Most across the world have transitioned to card, or especially mobile pay. I don't like it either, but it's not a strong litmus test as to the quality of the park.

>>2874821
>>2874824
Absolutely based

Disneytards are literally excited about a mine train reopening

>>2874844
>Disneytards are literally excited about a mine train reopening
It's actually a tragedy.
You used to be able to ride BTM and the ride was so rough you could easily pass a kidney stone.
But with the retrack it's going to be smooth and that won't happen anymore.

>>2874844
They were also excited for buzz lightyear laser tag

>>2874850
Hating harmless fun things isn't a personality.

>>2874850
Isn’t buzz light year a black lesbian now?
>still excited about it
Grim

>>2874844
To be fair the BTM coasters are the best mine ride coasters. Thunderation is arguably the best non-Disney mine ride but its current state is almost like being in a car accident. Plus it’s being retired

>>2874856
Buzz lightyear is fun?

The new Phantom Theater debuts next week when Kings Island opens for the season. Nobody here probably cares though because it’s not an Orlando park that charges $180+ for a days admission and it isn’t tied to some lame IP franchise or designed by some old gay hippy with a giant earring weighing down his ear

Britbros does anyone else think Towers isn’t worth a visit anymore? Stale coasters, less rides, mostly over 60min waits, only other thing to do in the park is waste a fortune on prison tier food or scam games, closing at 6pm! (Feel sorry for the hotel guests)

>>2874885
It's run down as fuck. The Toxicator is running with the water shut off and ugly banners over the water tanks. The operating hours are a joke. Wickerman is still great but it's 8 years old now. They should have had Project Horizon open but it was greater-crested-newted and then they didn't seem bothered to get the project moving again.

It seemed for a while they were doing good things at the park with a bigger focus on theming and less chasing of arbitrary world/European firsts but they've done nothing other than Ceebeebies. Next year is probably going to be a rushed David Walliams retheme.

>>2874872
Mildly, yes, if you haven't had your dopamine receptors blown out by porn and gigacoasters.

>>2874819
Six Flags
>Tormenta Rampaging Run at Six Flags Over Texas
>Quantum Accelerator at Six Flags New England
>Speedway Stunt Coaster at Six Flags Mexico

United Parks
>Barracuda Strike at SeaWorld San Antonio

Herchend
>Nightflight Expedition at Dollywood
>Flying Fox at Kentucky Kingdom

Is there anything that beats Velocicoaster? You could stick it in a field in Yorkshire and it’d still be number 1 imhotbh

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>>2874965
Iron Gwazi and it’s not even close

Curious what the thread opinion is of the Gold Coast (Australia) parks are since I grew up nearby and would alternate getting a yearly pass each year since they both had shit I liked
To clarify I mean
>Dreamworld
>Whitewater world
>WB's Movie world
>Wet'N'Wild
>Seaworld
The waterparks were mostly IPslop free and the more extreme rides at Dreamworld were never IPshit, I don't know if that's changed since like 10 years ago now though.

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>>2875025
Im going on a trip this summer and have the option at the end to spend a week in Australia or Japan. Which would you recommend? I’m leaning towards Australia bc I’m a Floridaman and I think it would be cool to see upside down Florida

>>2874873
Kek this
>Disneyfags and Universalfags cry there is no Ip-less dark rides or themed attractions anymore only IPslop
>Regional parks like Dollywood and Kings Island are providing them as they are the new places that are doing original attractions
>/tpg/ : *crickets*

>>2874965
>>2874984
Iron Gwazi is better but Steel Vengeance is better than IG. IG is paced well and throws a lot of elements at you and ends with a lot of speed still left. SV keeps going into its structure with airtime hills and barrel rolls. They’re both the best IMO, #1 and #2. I haven’t ridden Wildcat’s Revenge or ArieForce One but I have a feeling those two are also better than VC. VC is still a top 5-10 coaster worldwide. I personally think Fury 325 is better though. Also, front row on Top Thrill 2. That’s 4-6 coasters I think are better than VC. Also, if VC was plopped down on a field unthemed I think it would definitely lose a spot or two or more

>>2875033
Well I'm in Japan for a year on working holiday so I would be biased and tell you Japan despite loving what Australia used to be. The thing about Australia is it's so fucking huge and the good shit so far apart I think you'd struggle to feel satisfied with a week. I mean, Japan is ultra dense so you're also not going to feel satisfied that you've done 'it all' but it's the difference between a whirlwind of experiences in Japan since shit can be so close vs maybe one small pocket of Australia and most things being at a mandatory slow pace because the next interesting thing is miles away.
I mean if you want to go and binge theme parks back to back you can just go to the Gold Coast like I mentioned too.
If you want 'upside down Florida' then you will want Queensland though, possible north Qld, since that's where it actually gets tropical and rainforsted and mangroves and such. Hard to go wrong with Cairns -> coral reef day trip -> up to Kuranda on the cableway, down on the steam train (day trip) for the rainforest part. Has a few native wildlife enclosures in Kuranda (seperate admissions) that basically amounts to a mid tier zoo covering your Aussie staples. Hope you like hippie towns they're all like that up there.
That's like 2-3 days of activities though idk what else you would do up that way in Queensland I only passed by there briefly once on a cruise with family. Last thing you wanna be cramming in is domestic flights and shit too.

So yeah like I said for just a week I'd go Japan for density reasons, if you wanna see Aus then imo you gotta make it a road trip in a van or something, the country is so young and almost 'rootless' in some sense that the big draw is the nature unless you really wanna hear the same colonial settler town story or nativewanking for the nth time. Or yeah the theme parks I listed, the rides are more quality over quantity from what I looked up out of curiosity just before, muh hypercoasters and shit

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>>2874873
>or designed by some old gay hippy with a giant earring weighing down his ear
What the did you just say, you little bitch?

I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Full Sail, and I've been involved in numerous secret projects in Animal Kingdom, and I have over 300 confirmed hidden mickeys. I am trained in gorilla habitats and I'm the top imagineer in the entire Disney corporate complex. You are nothing to me but just another consoomer. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Spaceship Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of r/disney mods across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your AP. You're fucking unalived, kid. I can be in any park, anytime, and I can height check you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in storytelling, but I have access to the entire human capital of the Walt Disney Corporation and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your twink ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn passhole. I will shit furries all over you and you will yiff in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>>2874965
>>2874984
Weirdly enough I actually think Stardust > Velocicoaster > Gwazi

>>2875049
I haven’t been on it yet. I recently did Copperhead Strike which is from the same manufacturer and thought that was really great. Elite great even but it rarely gets talked about.

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Seaworld is saved
https://attractionsmagazine.com/seaworld-orlando-expedition-odyssey-changes/

>>2875048
Why would anybody where such a thing other than for attention? That doesn’t even look comfortable

>>2874965
Good chance the BTTF coaster is the best spike coaster in the world if it gets built to those plans. Does Bedfordshire count?

Still think there's a gimmick to the coaster next to the Jurassic World section

>>2875053
Not ridden it but was this literally a case that the original video was so shit that it made what should be a hard to mess up ride type terrible? Impressions I've read about it seem to make that the case.

>>2875062
I wish somebody would buy them out of private equity hell. They keep making awful cost cutting decisions and they also wind up reversing some of them and costing them more in the end. Like this, they could have made a good film from the start. Universal is probably the only existing park operator that could both buy them and fix the bullshit but I doubt they have any interest.

>>2875063
Not sure anyone could afford them that would want them. Merlin just posted a £50m loss with them only being kept afloat by Legoland and the kiddie sections of parks.

Universal would be competing with themselves, with the animals shows all but disappearing, there's no gap the park really fills. Especially if they decide to add another major coaster to their parks

>>2875073
Yeah. Merlin would be a lateral move, if not a downgrade. Herschend doesn’t make sense. Cedar Flags has no money and I wouldn’t want them to anyways, the SeaWorld parks are supposed to be a step ahead of all of these. Or should be rather, they’re currently closer to Cedar Flags but they should be a higher tier of park chain closer to Universal and Disney which they were under Busch. I still think they can be, especially the Orlando properties. Just not under their current owners

speaking of Merlin how is this possible for Alton Towers?
>2009
>2.65m visitors
>rarely get queues over an hour long
>2024
>2.35m visitors
>60-90 minute queues are the norm
screams incompetency in dropping visitor numbers in 15 years but how the hell are lines worse now? health and safety regulations made ride capacity drop drastically?

>>2875090
Smiler accident, Covid, underinvestment thanks to those two. Then you have Planning permission issues delaying projects and the inability to make a convincing argument for Alton Towers to be a multi-day resort.

Transport links haven't improved which means it can be easier for a non-driving londoner to get to Disneyland Paris than Alton Towers.

>>2874965
Soarin'

>>2874965
Woody Woodpecker

>>2874965
Scorpion

>>2874965
Dueling Dragons (fire and ice)

>>2874965
Flying Unicorn

>>2874965
Python

>>2874965
Volcano - The Blast

>>2874965
Crystal Beach Cyclone

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Oh yeah, it’s time for thrills.

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>>2875112
You lying faggots told me this ride sucked. It kicks fucking ass. It was cool to be among all the shit you can otherwise only see from far away. My yoshi stopped right under a thwomp. I also found all three eggs.

>>2875114
>My yoshi stopped right under a thwomp. I also found all three eggs.
Wow!!! Heckin based anon!!!!

>>2874965
Big bad wolf (the original)

>>2875112
>>2875114
I haven’t been to Epic yet but is the whole park really cheap plastic/ stucco where the Mexicans they hired don’t even bother to smooth out the brush strokes?

>>2874766
It's in the name anon, DisneySky. They're building it above the other two parks. Guests will be given jetpacks to access it.

>>2875112
Holy shit. Just zoom in. I would literally expect better in South East Asia…. Guess it photographed well from a distance

>>2874965
I expected Eejanaika to surpass Velocicoaster for me, but while Eejanaika definitely wins in terms of pure intensity, I still like Velocicoaster more.

You WILL be made to love Duffy
>>>/co/153176273

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>No you see, you're suppose to see jack shit, it's apart of the ride's theming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_t3DIrxlE

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>>2875119
>>2875124
>muh heckin brushstrokes!!

>>2875132
You’ve never worked in real estate/ construction. I guess that’s why you chose an ugly old jew as the picture to represent yourself

>>2875130
that fucking waterfall has been shut off for like a decade now

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>>2875132
This is totally a “premier” destination
>meanwhile looks worse than a highway tourist stop built in the 1970s

>>2875119
>>2875124
>>2875137
You guys are retards

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>>2875137
Total South of the Border vibes, but actually worse…

>>2875114
>bro unironically shilling yoshi ride

>>2875137
>>2875119
It's emulating the art style of the 2D Yoshi games.

>>2875141
I feel bad for anyone who has to live with a brain incapable of enjoying the Yoshi ride. That must be hell.

>>2875142
I get what they’re going for, but just look at the cheap execution. Look at those gaps around the pillar and around the fixtures. It’s literally already cracking and falling apart and it just opened wtf

>>2875119
Epic is the best theme park in the world and it shows when youre there. I visited 3 times last month. I genuinely encourage you to visit. That people bitch about it makes me think theyve never been or are permanent karens who live making google reviews

>>2875112
Looks like crap

>>2875119
You do realize the visible brushstrokes are intentional given the original Yoshi's Island game had a arts and crafts/crayon drawings like art style right

>>2875142
I don’t remember giant shitty cracks in the graphics of yoshi/mario games

>>2874965
Kingda Ka

>>2874965
Top Thrill Dragster

>>2874965
Wicked twister

>>2874965
Dahlonega Mine Train

>>2874965
Dododonpa and Fuji-Q Highlands

>>2874965
It’s around number 50 for me and I’ve never even ridden a coaster outside the US. I will never understand the hype that thing has. Other than the stall and the roll there’s nothing notable about it.

>>2875161
I have it second only to Knoebels for American parks. Like Knoebels it’s just good at everything.

>>2875038
Universal just made an IP-less dark ride last year (unless public domain books count as IP).

Stardust is great but I think slightly overhyped. I have a few quibbles.
1. Why is the first launch actually two launches back to back? Why not just one long launch?
2. The near misses with the other train do a lot of the heavy lifting.
3. Speaking of which, only the inside seats get that close to the other train.
4. The stalls at the top of the hills seem unnecessary to me, especially in the front row where you don’t even get to enjoy getting whipped over the hill when the train finally starts moving again.
5. Why pale green?

>>2875050
I rode CS recently and it struck me as a coaster from 2009 or so. Faded paint, bumpy and with multiple vertical loops, which we all decided were lame and boring around 2014. I was shocked to discover it was made in 2019. What was Mack thinking?

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>>2875090
>>2875091
>buy lots of B&Ms
>become poor
Wow, I didn't know that. You're telling me now for the first time.

>>2875233
>Why is the first launch actually two launches back to back? Why not just one long launch?
In-between the two launches is the maintenance bay. The gap you noticed is the detachable track piece that hauls the cars off to the side.

>>2875235
I rode it a few days ago and thought it was amazing. Wasn’t bumpy at all. Great hang time on the vertical loops. They didn’t really have coasters like this in 2009, it’s not anything like a 2000s B&M with vertical loops. That’s why Universal went with an unknown when they made shit ride suckit, wasn’t a whole lot of options until the early 2010s when Mack started making big coasters and Vekoma stopped sucking (not to mention RMC emerging)

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>Frozen ever after has a steeper, larger drop in order to get good ride photos
>it's now making small children too scared to ride again

kek

>>2875243
Ironically, the B&Ms have been the most consistent performers for Merlin with the fewest issues. Not sure they've even ever had one crash.

>>2874965
Green Lantern

USA parks need a mobility scooter cull. Why are they taking over?

>>2875277
Boomers are called boomers because there's so many of them. Obesity epidemic is also contributing

>>2875277
>Why are they taking over?
Unintended consequence of the Americans with Disabilities Act

>>2875277
Of all the things to seethe about, lmao

>>2875277
They need to be banned. I rented a stroller a couple years ago and this fat woman was renting a scooter for herself. She can walk just find they’re just fucking lazy. 9 out of 10 mobility scooter users don’t need them

>>2875277
This. Last time I went to Busch Gardens I did almost 14 miles worth of steps in a day. That’s exactly what these fat fucks should be doing, not fucking riding their obese asses a round on fucking rascals clogging up the paths and access ways
>the worst thing these fat sacks should be doing is riding around when they should be walking, then maybe they wouldn’t be so fucking fat

>>2875288
>>2875290
I'm going to rent a scooter just to piss off people like you. And, ironically, I'd be doing more to fix the problem by engaging in accelerationism.

>>2875290
For some reason they think they have the right of way. I’ve seen them cut off kids and they’re almost always rude. Disney adults encourage everybody to use Disney transportation at WDW instead of wisely renting a car. Then they have to suffer through multiple bus loads of ECVs after a park closes because they prioritize them regardless of when they enter the queue (and they take up the entire bus).

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>>2875294
>t.
Btw, I used to be fat like you, but then my wife got pregnant and I didn’t want my child to have to go through the shame of having a fat dad so I lost over 60lbs before she gave birth. I’m a lazy fucker who ate and drank WAY too much. If I can do it, so can you. Just start walking and then start lifting. Baby steps can turn into great strides

>>2875307
lol, cool story fatty.
I'm still renting a scooter.

>>2875323
Ok, and I’ll still make fun of you for being a morbidly obese fuck, while I rascal tip you

>>2874965
Speed: The Ride

>>2874965
DejaVu

>>2874965
Colossus

>>2875025
As a fellow Aussie, who last went about 7-8 years ago.
Dreamworld>Movie World>Wet''N'Wild>Sea World - Though I'd also say the only actually comparable ones are Dreamworld and Movie world, the others serve fairly different intentions.
Giant drop, Tower of terror combo is too fuckin good, let alone the other stuff.
I dont see anything wrong with IPslop if the rides are good and it gives the overall park an actual vibe. So movie world is also great IMO, Superman escape is fantastic, Green lantern is great and Scooby coaster is fun.
Seaworld at bottom, feel like I'd never visit a second time. Its basically an aquarium with a couple decent rides. Worth A visit, but not more.
Also I barely would consider Whitewater as its own, I literally don't know anyone who went to it specifically.


>>2875033
As another aussie who also has spent (more than) a year in Japan. I fully agree with his assessment. We have some very nice places, but its too spread out for a single week. Japan you can do a ton of stuff in tokyo with a couple day trips and have had an insane week.
One big thing to consider that the other guy didn't mention though. Your summer is our winter, but is Japans summer.
You would survive Japanese summer given Florida's is hot and muggy too, but Australia in winter does limit the amount of things to do a little. It would be the same as visiting florida in the winter, not pointless, but also kinda missing the main point.

>>2874965
Hellcat at Timber Falls

>>2874965
Firehawk (I really love that ride)

>>2875401
Based Deja Vu rememberer

>>2874965
Oscar’s Wacky Taxi

>>2874965
I don’t think anybody would give a fuck about velocicoaster if it was cloned and unthemed in a parking lot at some remote regional park. The Jurassic park theming, the roll over the water and being in Orlando is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. There are people with world class coasters in regional parks in their back yards that never go to them and only ride roller coasters in Orlando theme parks

>>2875249
Makes sense, wish they had found somewhere else for it though.

>>2875250
I guess I just find slow hang time to be such a gimmick that I don’t enjoy a coaster based on it fun at all. I don’t like Monster for the same reason.

>>2875263
They drive down ticket prices. Same reason Six Flags gold passes are dirt cheap.

>>2875508
To this day I do not understand what the fuck is so great about the “theming”. The queue? Great. The ride? It’s just static fucking dinosaur statues.

>>2875512
Agreed. It’s not River Adventure (when their animatronics actually work). When it comes to post-station theming it’s literally “that Dino park on the way to Busch Gardens on the side of the interstate” tier, if not worse. Actually, worse, bc at least a lot of those move

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i'm starting to put into question the rumored may opening date for tormenta. they haven't even broke ground on the restaurant that's opening alongside it.

>>2875524
I just rode Rapterra. There is literally no way this thing is going to be well made.

>>2875526
>DA B&M RATTLE IS REAL

>>2875528
Honestly, wtf happened? How TF can you go from making timeless icons to the supposedly S+ tier stuff they make today, then you ride it an it’s rattling to hell

>>2875530
And before anybody says anything. Ride Phoenix Rising, then ride Penguin Trek, and come back to me. It’s 100% ride/ train specific and these guys are the same engineers that made Mako that is arguably one of the smoothest B&Ms ever made

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>>2875532
Can we stop pretending their build quality was ever good? Their magnum opus had to close for months because a support cracked. Montu and Mako are the exceptions, not the rule.

And yes, Penguin Trek is arguably the most poorly built coaster in the world.

I really think its a good idea for parks to charge more money for admission, and I mean this for ALL parks.

Why, you may ask? Just look at how busy these places are now, and it makes buying priority/express/lightninglane the norm. Its a shit business model that only ruins the experience for everyone. Reduce capacity, increase gate costs.

an Alton Towers ticket cost £28 in 2005, adjust for inflation that is £51 in 2026. Actual 2026 ticket cost is £32.

I bet Universal GB will charge close to £100 for a day ticket when it opens in 2031

>>2875544
We'll never know the true cause but if it was a manufacturing defect then that's the contractor's fault, not B&M's. It could have also been caused by ground settlement. A design flaw might be to blame but that possibility seems remote compared to those.

>>2875563
It's still possible to have a good day at parks without paying to line jump, just go on a weekday and avoid weekends and especially holidays around weekends. An exception might be Disney, but Disney adults should be punished so their crowds don't affect me.

>>2875563
You pay £70 a ticket for Alton Towers for a 11am-4pm day and you're never coming back.

That said, Merlin need to really change how they do park food and merchandise, they're still behaving like it's the 90s. People want the Instagram friendly themed foods, the local delicacy that is difficult to get in most places and that they do really well etc. You can only get so much from T-shirts and Fridge magnets. People will smile from a novelty nemesis burger where the bun looks like the alien, you can charge £15 for it and people will be happy. Charge £15 for a burger van tier burger and they will be moody and stop spending.

>>2875585
Towers desperately needs more entertainment shows and yeah the food is abhorrent. The same £9.75 beef hotdog costs £1.50 at Costco and comes with a refillable drink! Fair enough it doesn’t come with the view of a closed rollercoaster. I really want Towers to become a top tier park again but seems like Merlin just want it running on bare minimum until it’s dead

>>2875588
The funny thing is, Ceebeebies is a massive success and they're just not learning from it. Themeing isn't Disney/Universal tier but it's still an immersive land with loads to do and it sells a load of shit to kids and parents. They're just not taking any lessons from it or for some reason have completely missed the whole "Disney adult" thing that shows that you target a wider audience in that way, they'll still open their wallets (maybe even spending more).

I guess we'll see if they learn their lesson from Minecraft land which is going to have a load of retail, novelty foods and immersive theming.

>>2875563
It’s called price discrimination anonymously. Look it up. Parks want the rich AND the poors.

>>2875486
>>2874965
Nighthawk

>>2875588
Not a good comparison considering Costco’s hot dogs are a known meme. They cost $1.50 in the 1980s and intentionally don’t adjust for inflation.

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I think some of you guys need to experience what a bad park ACTUALLY looks like

>>2875605
Nigga are we supposed to know where that is

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Alfonso Cuaron and his consequences have been a disaster for Harry Potter.

>>2875607
Hell Cat in Clemington Park NJ

>>2875614
Looks Fun Spot tier.

The wanted posters in the Battle at the Ministry cut to restart every few seconds and it’s fucking jarring. What gives? And don’t tell me they forgot how to do it right, because none of the Umbrage animations do it.

>>2875623
Because she was the only person that came back for a shoot.

>>2875625
Why can’t they just reverse it when they reach the end of the clip? Or get a different actor? Does anyone actually remember what Yaxley looked like in the films, or who he even is?

>>2875607
>>2875614
It's the final turn on Pegasus at Mt. Olympus

>>2875627
Reversing footage looks terrible and can be more noticeable than a cut. That said, they could probably use AI to pretty easily so a loopable transition. Wouldn't surprise me if there are some complex permission/royalties issue about any new footage of the actors preventing new transitions though.

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First track announcement for Muppet Rock n' Rollercoaster is a Blur cover

>>2875636
Grunge is a bit of a weird choice but I guess they just want animal for the lyrics. Should be fun though.

Have they actually given any idea of the theming on the coaster itself?

>>2875636
I’m actually laughing
Especially the meta how much Blur hates this song is the only thing they are known for in America to the point it broke them up

>>2875639
You can't really blame them for being bitter. It's a parody track they did quickly as a B-side to get back at execs who wanted them to cash in on the current hot sub-genre.

Most of their stuff was always way too culturally British to make it in the US

>>2875608
Nah man. Hagrids having a random ass ruin in the middle of the forbidden forest is merely a way for them to reuse the dueling dragons castle. It's not that complicated.

>>2875647
Such a downgrade to go from Dueling Dragons to Hagrids. I know a LOT of people who still are upset about it

>>2875637
Only thing I've heard is apparently they're going to present the Super Stretchlimos as something Bunsen and Beaker built.

>>2875605
>>2875628
That park has had a lot of derailments in the last few years. Nothing serious yet, but they don't even clear the queue while they use pry bars to rerail a car. That's really bad. I wouldn't go there.

>>2875647
I think they also tried to "synergize" it with the game Hogwarts Legacy, you can find an exact replica of some parts of the line queue in the game

>>2875674
It's a shame. Cyclops, Zeus, and Hades 360 would be great rides if they were in the hands of someone who cared.

>>2875680
Nah that came afterwards. The devs were massive potterheads that wanted to include references to literally everything. The timelines dont match.

>>2875670
stardust is better imo so whatever we got a replacement dueling coaster

now Gwazi....THAT was a true dueling coaster

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>>2875690
Fuck dueling coasters, it's all about racing ones

>still no takers on the modern steeplechase designs from Vekoma

Dammit, I know they take up a lot of space but they're so kino.

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>Hagrid’s 40 minutes

>>2875695
BLACKPOOL FUCKIN PLEASURE BEACH. I want to go there more than any other park in the entire world bros

>>2875695
These were unironically my fav coasters to build back in RCT. I’d build HUGE ones with like a dozen horses racing other over hills and cliffs and stuff

>>2875696
The feeling of hitting a park up on a dead day and having the place to yourself is immaculate. I remember one time the weather was so shit at islands almost everyone left and I did Hagrid's 10 times in a row with 8 of those being front row. Shit was so cash.

>>2875544
Penguin Trek is fine. You guys are big babies. I went on the infamous rough jackhammering Mine Blower a couple weeks ago and it was completely fine yet thoosies keep whining about how rough it still is even after the steel track. You guys have no idea what a rough coaster even is.

>>2875512
I don’t even remember static dino statues. I don’t think there was any theming on it aside from rock work. It goes on a tour of backstage areas

>>2875719
If you mean velocicoaster, there's 4 raptor statues you sweep past and they hiss and roar at you. Coaster themeing is always gonna be less detailed because you go past the elements so fast. Even on The Mummy you cant really make out detail on the underworld ghosts cause you sweep past them so quick. It doesnt make sense to have serious themeing

>>2875719
>>2875725
I just rode it and I noticed one of the dinosaurs is a jumpscare, so that’s good I guess.
>>2875725
Yeti 1.0 on Everest moved. It wasn’t static like the dinosaurs on Velocicoaster. Making them move would have gone a long way, and if they broke they could just turn them off.

>>2875718
Both of those coasters suck. You just have low standards.

>>2875716
Fucking nuts it was that dead than you got to request. We asked the op why the front row of our train wasn’t getting filled and he said “it’s broken, but even if it wasn’t, we don’t take requests.” Asshat.

>>2875695
different winner each time btw. depends on weight I think
>>2875698
the place is filled with SOUL. It is amazing something like Big Dipper is legally allowed to be open.

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>>2875765
KINO

>>2875765
>>2875804
Anybody know if Valhalla has finally reopened? Prob my fav water ride of all time

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Well we had a good run. It's over.

>>2875843
I'm not sure what your pic implies but if it harms Express Pass users then it's good

Imagine being such a consoomer that you pay the money for it and you don't even get to skip the line, you're just able to get in a shorter line

>>2875647
It’s Hogsmeade. The ride starts in Hogsmeade. Cuaron invented the trope of Harry Potter buildings looking like shit.

>>2875843
It doesnt harm them, it multiplies them. It's single-use express passes. When they tested it with Skull Island they were $25 each and presented at the entrance to the ride.

>>2875850
Then why the fuck did you post the single rider queue on the Hagrid castle?

>>2875647
It’s Hogsmeade. The ride starts in Hogsmeade. Cuaron invented the trope of Harry Potter buildings looking like shit.

>>2875853
You're a fucking idiot. If you wanna criticize Hogsmeade, post a photo of Hogsmeade. Fucking ignoramus.

>>2875647
It’s Hogsmeade. The ride starts in Hogsmeade. Cuaron invented the trope of Harry Potter buildings looking like shit.

>>2875647
Wouldn’t work if Cuaron hadn’t created the trope of Harry Potter looking like shit.

>>2875808
Opens 20th May this year. Don't blame them too much, No one wants to ride it when it's cold (Blackpool gets really cold and windy in winter and early spring). Still no news on the River Caves re-opening but they've said they're going to add new scenes to it (and also possibly using the ride to host a horror maze)

Hoping the mini indoor park near Blackpool Tower gets build. More indoor attractions to help give the town more to do in shitty weather would be great.

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Nobody here has commented on Epic Universe potentially doing open hub down the line.

https://x.com/Bentleys_Enigma/status/2043885372900249913

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>>2875843
>$20 for Yoshi express

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>>2875869
I'm sorry but there is no fucking way that's what this system is for and everyone speculating this isn't thinking clearly. Most likely it's to cut off access to certain portals for private events and corporate rent-outs. There's so many reasons doing an open hub would be idiotic.
1. Celestial has 1/20th the entertainment and dining options of City Walk. It's also tiny as shit compared to it. Who the fuck would want to go to Celestial just for Celestial? City Walk has way more to do for the same parking fee.
2. There's two rides in celestial that park guests pay for. How are you going to manage access to those rides if the general public is allowed in? It's just adding hassle.
3. Crowding in the portals is already a huge fucking problem. Celestial is supposed to be less crowded to alleviate that feeling. If you put the general public in celestial, there's no escape from the crowds.
4. Celestial is themed which means it cant just become CityWalk 2.0. The theme is too heavy so every restaurant they'd want to add would have to be narrowly shaped down to meet the existing theme. Starbucks barely pulled it off.
5. Having the portals be checkpoints you might have to wait in a line to access totally kills the free traversal concept. Visually having pylons in the middle of the path looks gross too.

I really think it's just so they can limit access to portals for corporate events like they have at the other parks. Big source of income for them.

Long term I think the move is to build an indoor 5th park like what was announced in India and have Citywalk 2.0 be part of that like a sort of mall. It gives them a place to put Horror Unleashed Orlando, too.


>>2875892
Extremely fucking grim. Express is the worst thing that ever happened to the theme park industry.

>>2875852
>Then why the fuck did you post the single rider queue on the Hagrid castle?
There's a lot more in that photo than the single rider queue. I posted it because it looks like shit, a trope which was brought to Harry Potter by Cuaron.
>>2875854
I can't even fathom how that's what you got out of that post.

>>2875893
so they're destroying the vibe of the portals to make more money off of selling the lands piecemeal to corporations? and disney is the enemy?

/dbg/ becoming /ubg/? Never thought I'd see the day

>>2875902
Explain to me how Disney and Universal aren’t the same when they’re owned by the exact same people?

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>>2875902
Unrelenting shareholder value-maxxing is the enemy, regardless of who does it. Lightning Lane originated with Disney and metastasized to Universal.
And that's not what I meant. They arent selling them piecemeal to corps. At Islands and Studios they will, usually on weekdays, close the parks an hour early and allow corporations and other organizations to rent the place out for hundreds of thousands for a few hours at night with catered food. They typically give glowing wristbands to people on the guest list so park staff know they are allowed to stay after the park closes. I'm assuming the Epic system is just a version of that.

My only hesitation in doubting this is Alecia Stella being adamant that the open hub concept plan is happening. Unless they plan to dramatically change celestial, it just seems like it's gonna create really ugly problems. Park management seems a bit delusional with their vision for the park. These people think 40k people can fit in Epic without every line being 5 hours long. The park feels smothering with just 25k.

>>2875900
>I posted it because it looks like shit,
It's a cherrypicked barren corner in an otherwise highly detailed queue that was retrofit from a Merlin ride. I stand by my previous comment that you are an idiot.

>>2875906
Support your claim with evidence.

>>2875908
Look up the largest shareholders of the companies, actual retard
>have you ever even read a 10k or a 10Q?!

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>>2875909
Alright that's actually fair and explains a lot. These arent controlling interests but it's substantial enough that I can see your point.

>>2875910
They absolutely are controlling interests when you add them up, then you look up who controls/owns all those companies that control/own the other companies and you see it is all the same group of people calling the shots

>>2875914
It's a 20% stake with the overlapping entities. Substantial but not legally controlling. They definitely have the CEOs by the balls though so they might as well be.

>it's a big club and you aint in it

>>2875915
> >it's a big club and you aint in it
False. It’s an extremely small club and neither of us are in it.
>t. Fmr investment banker and current hedge fund manager

>>2875916
Where did it go so wrong for you that you are posting on 4chan?

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>>2875917
I fucking love 4chan. It used to be a LOT better but at the end of the day, you’re here forever
>nu/pol/ is unusable though. It’s been completely destroyed by bots, shills, and opening up the internet to the third world

>>2875910
can someone explain how it says "the big three" own up to 77% of Disney but then lists each of their ownership as under 10%? am I missing something obvious?

>>2875951
Read it again but slowly.

>>2875968
i understand now. clearly i cant read. thanks anon

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>>2874965
Jetline

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Full tracklist.

Walking on Sunshine is an odd, odd choice. As it not having a single Muppets song.

>>2876153
>No Aerosmith

Cmon man

>>2876153
They seem to be using Can You Picture That as the pre/post show song.

Im going to Europa Park this summer for 2 days what am I in for

>>2876157
do you think "dude looks like a lady" will go down well with disney adults? Im assuming at least half of them are trans (they'd HAVE to be)

>>2876182
Not to sound like a faggot. But I can’t love this post enough

>>2875908
See
>>2875900
>There's a lot more in that photo than the single rider queue.

Rumor going around is Six Flags is looking to offload two more parks, namely Fiesta Texas and Dorney Park and Herschend is very interested in them

>>2876199
Dorney is too mid for Herschend to save.

>>2876199
there's no way they'd give up fiesta texas

>>2876202
The park president Jeffery Siebert just resigned so

>>2876199
Where did you read that

>>2876205
Parkfans has multiple people claiming that but there’s also other places like in Facebook groups saying the same

>>2876199
>>2876200
I like Dorney. The only thing I wouldn’t like about Herschend acquiring them is my pass would no longer get me in, but I trust them over anybody else. Apparently Herschend was touring Fiesta Texas recently. I’ve never been but it looks like a great park. It just doesn’t get much attendance, barely above 1 million annually which is about the same as Dorney. This rumor accompanies the news about park presidents being reinstated but not everywhere:

Knott’s
Magic Mountain
Cedar Point
Kings Island
Canada’s Wonderland
Great America
Great Adventure
Over Georgia
Over Texas
Carowinds

Pretty safe to say these are their core parks and any others are not safe. Also my guess is these are all parks above 2 million in annual attendance with Mexico being the only omission (I have a feeling they don’t really want that one plus I don’t think they own the land). New England, Discovery Kingdom, and Kings Dominion are probably just under 2 million. Jury is still out on whether Kings Dominion attendance can go back up but maybe Herschend would be interested in that one too.

>>2876207
I have heard people theorize even when the merger started this was the plan all along, really Cedar Fair wanted the top 5-6 Six Flags properties and was going to cut off the rest of the fat (including their own parks) to get them
It makes sense the way it is slowly progressing, starting small then when required to pushing more out
>First step is kill off the lowest park in Six Flags America to sell the land
>Then let go of the smallest minnow parks, which they did with Enchanted. Get out of La Ronde and other lease parks
YOU ARE HERE
>Next cut the mid level parks that would get some investment but not what the core level get and will sell for more. Dorney, Fiesta, Discovery
>Finally (optional, if required or desired) cut off the just below the top level parks that would sell for the most, namely Kings Dominion and New England
Then you have a lean company of only the top level regional parks they can put a ton of investment into

>>2876210
The steps after that are
>Company's financial situation stabilizes
>National economy stabilizes
>Company gets credit
>Goes on a spending spree buying up tons of smaller parks to convert them to Six Flags

>>2874924
Nice. This all opening 2026?

Gonna go back to Orlando August 2027. The F&F coaster will be open by then right? Anything new in Disney open by then? (please do not include retheme/refurbed rides as new rides - they are not)

>>2876233
They're constructing new stuff but it's doubtful things will be open by then, knowing how slow they are. Tropical Americas at Animal Kingdom should open at some point in 2027 but I personally doubt it

>>2876210
This makes me wonder exactly why the bought up every mid park in America in the first place

>>2876317
The economy had been trending upward since the mid to late 80s, financing was easy to come by, and people visited regional parks a lot more than they do now. Buying an existing park and upgrading it is less expensive than building one from scratch in most cases.

In hindsight SFI's expansion was reckless, they took on way more debt than they could handle and it started backfiring quickly with the failure of Six Flags World of Adventure. Cedar Fair was doing the same thing but not at the scale SFI was.

>>2876321
Makes sense, zooming out, looks like the 2000-2001 crashes grounded them and they were stuck with a lot of stuff they couldn't afford to service properly. Like Disney California Adventure and Walt Disney Studios around the same time.

>>2876317
It’s because of a guy named Kieran Burke and his company Premier Parks. They started with water parks and Frontier City and then began acquiring mid parks. They got their foot in the door when they bought the company that owned part of Six Flags over Texas and then Time Warner sold all of Six Flags to them. They branded their parks Six Flags and continued to buy mid parks and brand them Six Flags. That’s how the chain wound up with La Ronde, SF Mexico, Darien Lake, etc. The last “real” Six Flags acquisition was Fiesta Texas who despite being rumored for sale is a full-size park like the others in the chain at the time. Premier would also add more rides thinking it would make more money without thinking about the infrastructure of these smaller parks. They were is massive debt and caused the chain to go bankrupt.

Cedar Fair bought Michigan’s Adventure so that Premier SF wouldn’t. And they also bought Geagua Lake from them right before the bankruptcy to close it down as not to compete with Cedar Point. Cedar Fair was a chain of small parks with the exception of Cedar Point and Knott’s (Knott’s being a small park in acreage but it’s a big deal park). Then they bought the Paramount Parks which were all large parks. The merged chain consolidating to just the large parks is more of a correction than anything and it is what they need to do

>>2876210
A lean company consisting entirely of large core money-making parks is exactly what they need to be successful. All parks make money and all parks get regular investments. I do hope they keep Kings Dominion though. Splitting up the Kings parks seems wrong. Plus their attendance spiked last year because of Rapterra despite cancelling Winterfest but rumors are saying a version of a winter event may be returning this year. With SFA closed they will probably receive an attendance boost.

>>2874746
Universal parks attract the teens and adults, so Disney had to course correct to their strong point. A park for little kids and where families will take their young kids.

>>2874749
It is fucking depressing seeing the vast fat fuck scooter parking lots outside some of these rides. Especially in an international type of place like a theme park that attracts loads of foreigners.
Just advertises Americans really are a nation of fat as shit Jabba the hut fucking monsters.

>>2874823
>>2876483
I'm more weirded out by the vast amount of people pushing strollers of kids that are way too damn old to be in a stroller. I would have thought maybe they were mentally challenged kids or something, but nope, most of them are just regular kids who have parents that still want to push strollers of their teenage kids. I don't know how the kids are not insanely embarrassed about that to the point of suicide either.

The sick part there is I know the day is coming when people will be screaming and complaining about how infantile adults are in a few years, never once looking to the parents who pushed them in strollers in Disney World well into middle school ages. No shit they are infantile and act childish.

>>2876481
>>2874746
Use your brains and think like a capitalist.

1 teenager/young adult visiting your park buys 1 meal and maybe 1 shirt on the way out and that's it.

A family with 3 kids, buys 3 meals, and 3 shirts, and candy, and snow cones, and an ursula plushy, and a Cars hat, etc. Same reason why children's movies do very well financially just because of the number of people involved.

>>2876469
>It’s because of a guy named Kieran Burke
Don't forget Gary Story!

I think Kieran is still in the biz, trying to rebuild his lost empire of budget cuts

>>2874746
>>2876481
>>2876501
This is the basic age demographic:
>Disney 0-8
>Universal 8-13
>Seaworld/ Busch Gardens 13+
Obviously there is a lot of overlap, but that’s basically it
>then you have Disney Adults….

>>2874823
>>2876483
The main issue I keep seeing with them is that they seem to take a real car driver's attitude to every place they appear in. Like an incredibly rude, shove everyone else out of the way, cut people off and act like they are going to run people down if they do not dodge them fast enough kind of attitude car drivers would have when they see people walking on the street or on a bicycle on the road. Except it's mobility scooters doing this shit in shopping aisles and in walkways around foot traffic.

For some reason someone on a scooter assumes they have the absolute right of way in every single situation they are in and expect everyone else to move out of their way.

>>2876537
>a real car driver's attitude
>attitude car drivers would have
wah fucking wah

>>2876544
This is why absolutely no one likes seeing your 400lb ass scoot scooting down a pathway for walkers.

>>2876547
There's either accessibility for all or for none

>>2874775
Why did no one help this guy. Comment if you're still here and I'll help out.

>>2876501
Childless Disney adults probably slaughter families per capita. Families tend to be money conscious, but childless Disney adults have no one to spend their money on but themselves.

any of you guys have annual pass for universal and is it worth it? Getting a preferred AP is the same price as a 2 week ticket for me, but I think Id save a shitload in hotel & food etc
>>2876481
I noticed disney gets filled with the "family vacation 2026" t-shirt crowd as well yet Universal never gets them. I can only assume people go to disney the same reason people go to Times Square in NYC - it says so online to go there, yet its actually shit.

>>2874775
>I Can use my "free friend tickets" on this first visit, right?
I would be shocked if that wasn't the case
>Later in trip visit Cedar Point. I can also visit here as many days as i want, right?
Yep. They want you at the parks as much as possible.

Btw if you're going to leave the park and reenter later the same day (like to go eat or whatever), make sure you know that park's reentry policy. Even though they're all the same company, they may have different reentry policies. For some you might need a hand stamp and for others you might use the pass again. Ask before you exit the park though, once you leave the main gate you may not be able to get back in that day if you needed a hand stamp and thought you'd just use your pass. Just ask the people at the gate, they'll know.

Don't have answers to the rest of your questions though, sorry

>>2874718
They had me IP banned for an entire month. Thats what happens when nonwhites are put in charge of social media. They don't understand basic human freedoms like free speech. And the USA is becoming one of those countries by pouring them in to replace the whites.

>>2876483
I was making fun of this French guy for smoking and he said at least we aren't so fat that we need scooters to carry our people. I said you don't have that?? He said NO! I was shocked

>>2876483
Who cares about internationals?? They're all shitholes even the rich ones. They don't understand what freedom is. They are INCAPABLE of making things better for humanity.

>>2876576
Despite Cat in the Hat having been neglected for years and Harry Potter being their main lure, Universal's stock vacation T-shirt is the Dr. Seuss Thing 1 and Thing 2 variants.

>>2876503
Yeah. Gary Story died several years ago. Kieran Burke is not only still in the business but he still runs Premier Parks. It’s legally not considered the same company but it’s basically the same company divorced from Six Flags. They mostly run water parks including Island H2O at the Margaritaville resort near Animal Kingdom. Most of the parks they run are owned by EPR, the same EPR who owns Frontier City and Darien Lake also because of Premier when they still ran Six Flags into the ground through the bankruptcy. And the same EPR who owns the parks sold off to Enchanted. It just seems wrong that the company and people who tarnished Six Flags’ reputation and added all those shitty little parks to it are still around.

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>>2876561
Well both groups are appealed to pretty hard by the merch offerings at the park so I think we're onto something here. Universal has tried the same thing recently with their UNIVRS line of clothing but they're kinda dumb and theme it around films and IPs that are so old that the fanbase for them arent the types of people to wear urban streetwear. It strikes me as a board room decision concocted by a very trendy instagram homosexual brand consultant that thinks the country looks like a college brochure in an inner city. Given the prices are like 70-90$ each I'm really at a loss for who the target consumer is for these.

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>at Universal Florida
>both Studios and Islands
>Betty Boop meet & greet
>she's thicc
>short dress
>garter visible
>mfw

>Brazilians

>>2876576
Lots of schools too. I see Something Something High School on groups of people at Disney.

>>2876576
It's only good for the old parks, they will not let Epic Universe be a part of that yet.

I get kind of bored with Universal after a few visits. Once you have been on every ride 3 times they are not that interesting any longer.

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>>2876652
For me it's the absolute slampiece they have playing Marilyn Monroe

>>2876650
At this point I really do not know who in the fuck is the target audience for 80s nostalgia shit any longer. Those movies are 40-45 years old now and no one under 55 cares about them. Why is all merchandise wrapped around Back to the Future, Ghostbusters, Gremlins, and Indiana Jones? Most of that generation bought everything they were going to by with a Delorean on it decades ago.

I also think it is weird how Universal still has tons of merchandise advertising 1990 Universal stuff and rides that have not existed in years. They still have shirts, hats, and mugs with the Earthquake, King Kong, BTTF, and ET. And really no one cares about ET.

Their thing is Harry Potter and Minions now.

>>2876664
>I also think it is weird how Universal still has tons of merchandise advertising 1990 Universal stuff and rides that have not existed in years
The current generation of young parents (and the childless "universal adults") were the 10 year olds that rode Jaws and Kongfrontation back in the day. It does suck being constantly reminded of how GOATED the park used to be before screen technology became cost efficient.

>>2876664
>I also think it is weird how Universal still has tons of merchandise advertising 1990 Universal stuff and rides that have not existed in years
Younger generation park fans are intrigued by the history for rides and themes that used to exist but were taken away from them, so it still sells with them and shows they are “in” with the park lore
Why else do you think Figment merch is so popular with Epcot fans when his current ride is absolute shit and many of them were either too young to remember the original or not even born? They are intrigued about what was taken away from them experiencing

>>2876658
> I get kind of bored with Universal after a few visits. Once you have been on every ride 3 times they are not that interesting any longer.
This applies to Disney parks too. Anything that’s not a thrill ride gets boring AF. I can go years between seeing those mannequin rides and remember them perfectly and also still find them boring AF

Now that the honeymoon phase is over can we all ageee that Epic Universe is soulless corporate slop?

>>2876662
>Marilyn Monroe
is she getting told to flirt with men in front of their wife or is it a perk of the job causing arguments?
>>2876664
people still love ET. me included. To counter your post the main complaint of disney's star wars land was it being sequel trilogy related. Everyone will prefer you get classic characters and locations, not the new stuff. Also I think certain IPs will never go out of style.

>>2876687
no it is an incredibly underrated park.

>>2876689
>underrated
How? It’s literally the most overrated park in theme park history.

>>2876687
No it's amazing. You're just being a hipster about it. It has a deeply corporate identity because it's from corporations, but that isn't inherently bad. There's a lot of soul in it too.

>>2876693
Epic Universe is soulless as fuck. It’s almost as soulless as Galaxy’s Edge

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Minecraft coaster has gone vertical with Intamin supports

Epic Universe or Disneysea?

>>2876686
Interesting, I usually judge roller coasters by how many times in a row I can ride them and not be bored. If I applied those standards to dark rides, even dark rides I love, I wouldn't rate those dark rides very highly overall.

>>2876664
It's simple, they're more memorable than anything Hollywood has put out in the last 25 years.

>soul
>soulless

Holy shit use a thesaurus

How is Steel Dragon 2000 apparently as fast as Fury 325 (95 mph) despite having a less steep drop angle and a shorter drop?

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>>2876698
>Implying
Epic is pretty great but it still needs to add more capacity and expand if it wants to ever get on that level. Ask again in about 10 years

>>2876704
Parks are notorious for giving bullshit top speeds. You can plug in the height to a free fall calculator and figure out the maximum theoretical top speed, but that is contingent on knowing the initial speed (lift speed) too.

The difference in each coaster's height doesn't make that much of a difference. Assuming a 4mph initial speed, SD2000's top theoretical speed is 95.9 mph and F325's is 97.9. These calculations do not incorporate friction or any other losses, so the irl speeds will be a little slower. The speed of the lift as the train crests the first hill makes a difference, but only a slight one.

No one probably knows the exact speed either hits at the bottom because control systems aren't designed to calculate that. Usually there are no sensors that could figure it out located there. They deal with cycle times (counting the time from the moment it drops off the lift until hitting the brakes). And the angle of descent descent only affects acceleration, not top speed.