>Mocks the Athenians as "boy lovers".>Spartan pederasty was much more rampant and way more vile and brutal.
>>220694667But they didn't love them.
>>220694667For Spartans it was just a form of masturbation.
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>>220694696They couldn't just use their hand?
>gay gay gayIt’s seems the most recent /tv/ spam psyop is working and making a few anons a little insecure about their desires
>>220694667does this count as blackface?
>>220694729For a second there I thought that came from a gay porn parody.
>>220694755it was already a gay parody meet the spartans was the straight version
>>220695325I’ll watch it. Thanks, anon.
>>220694667>literally repeats Athenian propaganda>My source? Why a faggot 'anthropologist' of courseNothing is known of Spartan interpersonal relations from actual sources other than it was deeply shameful to publicly show affection to anyone. There is zero reason to believe the ridiculous modern claims about them
>>220696365all male bonding is presented as sexual. that's a way to keep men divided.
>>2206946671. It's called a fantasy2. Being a faggot is valid for criticism3. Having the main characters criticize others for being faggots is based
>>220696365Xenophon was an Athenian who went to live among them and explicitly says they considered carnal attraction to youths an abomination compared to incest, I'm not sure where this meme about Sparta started
>>220694667>>220694696>>220694698False, we don't have much to go on regarding Sparta. The most accurate record is the "Laws of Lycurgus" written as their version of the Constitution, which we have to assume persisted and didn't change much throughout their hundreds of years of existence.On the topic of homosexuality Xenophon (an Athenian who moved to Sparta) wrote "if...it was not an attachment to the soul, but a yearning merely towards the body, he [Lycurgus] stamped this thing as foul and horrible"Now "modern scholars" (faggots doing historical revisionism through the lens of their preferred politics and trying to legitimise their faggotry) are trying to claim that because Spartans had a system where an adult taught a child that this equated to Athenian pederasty, however the ancient Greek words used in Sparta for this were (eispnelas) "inspirer" and (aites) "listener" which is far removed from "lover and beloved" which was used by Athenians and implied a homosexual relationship. The Spartan version implies only a system of teacher and student as we would know it today. (although maybe most university students are getting buggered by their teachers so maybe that's a bad example)While laws could have changed multiple times back and forth over their hundreds of years, it seems a deluded, faggotry enabling, brain rotted, bad faith interpretation to believe that a warrior society from thousands of years ago, one that admired women and gave them more place in society than any other Greek state, was ok with homosexuality.
>>220694667Yeah I don't think they had giants either
>>220694667Spartans were faggots who didn't even participate in Greece's greatest conquest
>>220694667>IfMost kino line in all of history ? (that's if it's true)
>>220694667Citation needed.
>>220696502Based history knoower>>220696380Based noticer>>220694667Cringe troon
>TONIGHT....WE BUST THE CRUST IN HELL>AHHHOOOO AHHHOOO AHHHOOOO
>>220694698>Inside you there are two greeks..l-lewd baka XD
>>220695977you fucking idiot, don't watch that shit, anon was being facetious
>>220695977you fucking genius, watch that shit, anon was being truthful
So were the Spartans gay? They seem like the kinda guys that would give each other brojobs and try to convince themselves it's not gay.
>>220694690fpbp
>>220696980hard to say because there's so few primary documents and stuff is written later by other people. humans don't change much, gay shit probably happened sometimes.
>>220696502Plutarch writes in Life of Lycurgus that in the agoge the boys got paired with older lovers who mentored them. Not "just a teacher," Still had the gay shit mixed in with the training.
It's hilarious that according to some writings the boys couldn't perform with their new wives because they were so accustomed to be with the other boys in the agoge, women actually scared them. They had to establish a new rule of having at least one child to be considered a citizen to force them to perform
>>220697243>ancient greek version of death grip was just growing up constantly sodomized
>>220697243"historical" accounts by the same novelists who wrote about the Atlantis, one-titted female warriors, Hercules' adventures, the Minotaur, the Odysseus epic, etc. the whole homosex story is a myth based on the Platonic philosophy of imperfect halves etc._y'all_ just wish to have fag ancestors to justify buttfucking/being fuck by your buddies lmao
>>220694667Frank Miller was not big on historical accuracy.This was rule of cool with a little racism.
>>220697243>They never mention penetration just boys being boys having close friendships2000 years later anon thinks everything is buttsex
>>220697341they never mentioned penetration because they practiced thigh sex retard
>>220697362>thigh sex retardwhich is pretty pretty good desu (and I never practiced it with a big and strong women-deprived soldier so far or a teen boy ofc)
>>220694667What a great actor.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL, THAT SPARTANS PRACTICED PEDERASTY; THE ONLY SOURCES ARE FROM ATHENIANS, AND THEY HAD EVERY MOTIVE TO FABRICATE LIBEL AGAINST SPARTA.IN ATHENS, PEDERASTY WAS NORMALIZED, BUT WHEN ATHENIANS WROTE ABOUT «SPARTAN PEDERASTY» THEY DID SO IN A CONDEMNATORY MANNER, AS IF THAT DID NOT OCCUR IN ATHENS, THEREFORE, THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION IS THAT PEDERASTY WAS NOT ACTUALLY PRACTICED IN SPARTA, AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHY ATHENIANS ATTEMPTED TO DEFAME SPARTANS WITH THAT: MERE AND SIMPLE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION.
>Let us talk by the giant pit of death>Okay
>>220697562It wasn't all negative comments. The Athenians actually praised the Spartan Constitution, which it was considered more fair than others, having all the good parts of a monarchy and a democracy
>>220697562imagine defending losers more than 2 millennia late lmao>>220697711praising your adversaries was actually performative as it made you (the victorious) even more superior: no doubt that Athenians despised spartcucks through and through
>>220694667You cant love a hole
>>220697711>TWO kings Jeremy? That's insane!
>>220697877your mothers actions say otherwise hehheh
>>220697019I find a theoretical society like that very unbelievable.Maybe I'm the weirdo here but in absolute honesty I have zero desire to fuck a young boy and I would have never sucked my teachers dick for an education. The idea of this being common practice and out in the open seems absurd to me, even today with all the gay shit on tv guys don't flock to grindr and instead prefer to masturbate privately to women.All the talk about gayness in ancient Greece and Rome seems to be largely based on sensationalist stories/ propaganda and jokes.
>>220694667When they do it it's bad, when we do it's good
Earth... and water?
>>220696502Right but asshole status?
