this movie is doing literally everything in its power to make sure you won't think that the womyn is doing any of the bad thing

>>220698754
elaborate?

>>220698686
Why do her eyes look like that?

>>220699033
if you mean the squinting its because an inhuman thing inhabiting her is trying to act human / normal because her unnatural, erratic behaviour is causing bear to drift away from her. but it isn't human so it doesn't know how to act

if you mean the blackened eyes, lighting + symbolism

>>220698754
She only behaved like a BPD after he scrambled her brains with the wish

>>220699073
I thought that at first
watch it again but with the thought in mind that she's actually behaving like a cat that really loves its owner, but a cat trying to be a person
then you'll shit bricks

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>>220698686
For those that are saying it isn't a demon, explain the phone call.

>>220699073
she didn't behave like a BPD, she behaved like she had been shot in the head but lived and now had half a brain

>>220698686
No it's a secret prequel and she's possessed by the Smile Demon.

>>220699205
It already has been explained and that you've just asked this unprompted at the beginning of a thread makes me think you're doing a weird bait post to incite arguments

>>220699263
>it already has been explained
it most certainly has not

>>220699244
Everything about her behavior screamed BPD, anon. This movie is like THE depiction of the disorder.

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Everyone's debating about the "love" wording of the wish or whether or not she was possessed but my biggest gripe is
>Be Ian
>Is having a FWB with Nikki
>Tells Bear that it's a bad look that he's with Nikki while she's acting mentally unwell in the car ride
>Invites Bear exclusively to a party
>Nikki ends up coming anyway
>Nikki has a mental breakdown and hurts herself in front of everyone
>Lets Nikki leave the party with the guy you just confronted for using her instead of having Sarah, yourself, or any other party goer take her
>(Also the emergency room not taking her scene is retarded)
Is Ian a turbo retard? The party scenes were cool to watch and I thought the movie in general was still really good, but writing-wise this is the most low quality part of the movie.

>>220699279
no
she was almost completely disinterested in sex

>>220699271
yes, it has. you're welcome >>220664820

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>>220698686
>extremely hot
>hangs out with group of losers
>fucks the fat guy of the friend group
>has secret feelings for the biggest loser
Really?

Every obsession thread going forward should have (it's a horror movie) as a disclaimer, because a lot of midwits seem to forget they are watching a horror movie. It's actually a horror movie
Half of your complaints boil down to it's weird that she's acting so scary. It's a horror movie

>>220699342
>"my interpretation"
>"psychic channelling"
>"this is the part where audience interpretation and world building comes into play"
no wonder you fags always ignore the head-canon accusations

>>220699362
anon... the amount of women in the world this currently describes you would not believe

>>220699300
I thought there's a scene after the hospital with Bear and Ian arguing outside without audio?

>>220699367
you literally have to be under the age of 28 to find any of it scary

why are you discussing a movie that doesnt even have a BRrip out yet?

>>220699376
When someone says it's their interpretation, that's called being honest. When you write a paragraph that your sperg mind came up with that doesn't make it less headcanon than anyone elses. The other 2 greentext have nothing to do with your sentence. One was part of the interpretation, the other was in context to the discussion that had been ongoing and was referencing that, if you bothered to read. It's all quite logical which you're of course a big fan of.

>>220699391
The emergency room scene was a nurse arguing with Bear, not Ian

>>220699419
that's great, fag
but head canon is most often used as a cope for bad writing
like right now
my "head canon" is these complaints lose all merit if he wished for nikki to be obsessed with him instead of in love with him

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>>220698686
The exact moment I would have noped out of this.

>>220699391
I thought Bear was arguing with some hospital orderly. It looked to me like he tried to take her to the hospital and they failed to be admitted. It's clear that they didn't see a doctor, but I couldn't figure out why.

>>220699445
>my "head canon" is these complaints lose all merit if he wished for nikki to be obsessed with him instead of in love with him
He did do that, though?

>>220699362
>fucks the fat guy
Was Ian trying to sabotage the relationship so he could get his easy pussy back, or was he actually concerned for her?

>>220699503
Nope, he said
>I wish Nikki loved me more than anyone in the world

>>220699445
Yeah but that's not what happened in the movie and relevant explanations have been provided to you on why the things happened the way they did. Too many now. So if you cant accept that, there is nothing left to say. You dont like a movie. That can happen sometimes. I suggest for your mind that reading might be more to your taste. Maybe a setup guide? Like an instruction manual of a train set or something. It's very sequential and logical which is satisfying.

>>220699545
Are you doing a bit or are you truly this literal and autistic? What do you think the "more than anything in the world" qualifier is supposed to make you think of? It's a valid description of an obsession.

>>220699574
>relevant explanations
>"the willow decided to not give him what he wished for"
yeah, that's an explanation for why the writing is bad
I'm still waiting for the
>this movie is literally the best BPD movie literally ever
fag to reply to the fact that one of the most common BPD behaviors is wanting to fuck all the time

>>220699523
Seemed like a bit of both. Sarah said that Ian felt like it was directed at him, so clearly he was taking it personally and probably jealous. But I would guess that's mixed with genuine concern.
Wish we got to see the ride home Ian gives her. The one after the first night, where they're convinced she was taking MDMA and Ian tells Bear that she's all good.

>>220699583
Just to add, am I crazy or did he say more than anyone in the fucking world? That "fucking" bit isn't in the trailer, but I swear it's what he says in the film. It's been a few days now so I'm fuzzy on this point

>>220699583
it's a more valid description of love, though, because it actually includes the word love
which is not demonstrated by the wish

>>220699622
Yes, it would be, if you weren't watching a horror movie.

>>220699583
He may just been trolling, but he's been going for 4 hours now. I suggest just not talking to him

>>220699634
so you agree he should've said obsessed
that way the sterile quality of their relationship wouldn't be so jarring

>I wish nikki freeman started dating me while also acting like she was a progressively scary monster in like a horror movie or something
I fixed the movie fellas, now this is good writing.

>>220699664
No, I don't, because I'm not thick in the head!

>>220699684
>started dating me

>>220699602
It's just a movie dude. What are you looking for out of this? You are being a sperg

>>220699620
Yes, that is right

>>220699697
>critiquing the wording of my shitpost wish to make fun of the literal autist
can you just relax

the catposter might be onto something

>>220699699
>it's just a movie dude
yes, and like I said before, all of you fags glazing it will forget it exists in 2 months
this happened last year with weapons

>>220699300
>is ian a turbo retard
no he was just a selfish prick, just like bear but in a different way
only reason he told bear about nikki lying about her dad and shit like that was because prior to her getting with bear they were fucking

>>220699720
she didn't start dating him, is my point
she just becomes his weird roommate

>>220699731
>all of you fags glazing it will forget it exists in 2 months
What does that even mean. Like what do you think this argument proves or accomplishes?

>>220699466
the exact moment I would've put a ring on it

>>220699758
it's forgettable
because of the bad writing and lack of unique shit

Go ahead and fuck someone with borderline personality disorder, just make sure you have a solid escape plan

>>220699752
What? No.. they were dating. That's a pretty big part of the movie. There's a dating montage and everything
You should watch the movie

>>220699773
>there's a dating montage
yeah like that montage at the beginning of cyberpunk, which is what the game should've been about

>>220699752
>she just becomes his weird roommate
she moved herself in
why? because she already lived there prior to the wish, just not in that body (she was the cat, sandy)
cats always find their way home

>>220699731
Who gives a shit? I watched it last night and I thought it was really good. Is a horror movie supposed to stick with me for the rest of my life? Shut up already

>>220699769
clearly not though

>>220699769
you living in reverso world m8?

you have to be such a scrub to waste a WISH on romance
appalling critical thinking

>>220699786
I don't understand. What indicates that it was the cat? She cooked the cat and fed it to him. This seems to be working with the assumption that cats are in agonizing pain constantly feeling unrequited love for their owner and looking at all strangers with murderous intent.
Do you have a good relationship with your cat? There are a lot of explanations that come to mind before I'd conclude that it was the cat character which we never saw alive.

>>220699887
>She cooked the cat and fed it to him.
that was the real nikki's influence, in fact, you could argue this affirms my argument because the real nikki knows the cat's spirit is in control and she did this as a way to convey that. "the cat is in me, now its in you, share my pain"
its passive aggression at its finest

the film literally sets it up in the beginning. the first "event" we see is the dead cat and then bear crying over the loss. indicating he had a really good relationship with said cat and likely vice versa. then he fixates on nikki, hoping for a replacement in regards to that loss of companionship

and boom. the wish works, nikki is obsessed with him, but her particular style of obsession and behavioural anomalies are similar to that of a cat. including the strange movements. she moves rather cat like at times. and she practically moves in after the fact, taking sandy's place. and she is fixated on sandy too from the moment of "obsession", from the flowers and from the shrine she made for sandy while the body was still on the kitchen floor

I'll say it again to summarise, the spirit that was in control of nikki's body WAS sandy, with the wish compelling it / her to larp as nikki to obtain the love of bear

think about it logistically too. if you leave a wish like that open ended, its going to come to the most logical conclusion. which is to find an available spirit to put into the body that could take on that role. sandy's spirit is the most obvious solution to that problem. freshly dead, likely not fully cut off from the physical plane yet, loved bear already, as much as a cat can, so the wish just implanted that spirit into nikki's body as a quick solution. and everything after the fact is merely the spirit of a cat trying to act human but failing because well, it isn't human, and then it isn't nikki. so it just spiralled out and became extremely feral, just like a cat would if it was out of sync with its environment

does anyone wanna play monkey's paw? it's a fun creative writing exercise
(to be clear monkey's paw isn't part of a one wish willow but we had a thread doing this the other day that hit bump limit and it was fun)

I'll go first ready? I wish for world peace

>>220699985
I'm think this is basically incoherent and I disagree with you on every single point but I'm glad you found a headcanon that works for you

>>220700030
>I'm think
>I'm think therefore I'm not
kek

>>220700030
It's obviously wrong but it's a unique take I haven't seen before and quite creative

>>220700017
Did anyone get a good look at the packaging? Did it warn against using on people?

>>220700049
There's an image floating around someone might post for you. It wasn't in the film but there's a few rules. Like no time manipulation allowed
Nothing about that though no

>>220700047
I don't think its wrong I just think its intentionally subtle because the director doesn't want you to know, he just wants you to consider the possibility. because the beauty of the film is you don't know, and that not knowing is what makes it so spooky. but the cat angle, if it is legit, which I think it is, will only really be understood by a certain layer of fans, so there's something for everyone. most fans won't understand what is actually happening but not knowing is exactly what will make it a favourite for them. but then realising the cat angle is legitimate for that minority of fans that can understand, has the same effect for them. so you cover both bases. a bit like donnie darko innit. people are still talking about what actually happened in that film to this day and there's only just really been a consensus on it

>>220698686
He should have just killed her in the end. She's going to spend the rest of her life locked away or worse.

>>220700131
there will be more films about similar scenarios emerging as a result of the wishes
eventually the authorities will go see her in a loony bin to get her inside take as the only survivor of wish related events that is cognizent enough to communicate what happened on her end
like after a few entries like obsession we will probably see a true detective type film where a couple of investigators look at the previous events of previous films, try to figure out why this keeps happening and we'll learn more about the source of the wishes and thats where she comes in

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>>220700049
This website has all the rules
https://www.onewishwillow.com/
>How many times can I wish?
>Single Use Only. Grants one wish. No Multiple Attempts. Using additional One Wish Willows™ will not change or affect your other wishes. Only one wish per life per person.
>Can I change my wish?
>Once made, a wish cannot be reversed or repeated. Consider Long-Term Effects. Wishes are irreversible. Think carefully before wishing.
>Is there anything that I can't wish for?
>Cannot grant wishes involving time manipulation, resurrection, immortality, or creating more One Wish Willows™.
>What if I'm dissatisfied with my wish?
>TABI Cat Curiosities is not responsible for wish misinterpretations. Use at your own risk. Users assume all responsibility for wish outcomes.

>>220700570
So you can wish for someone to fall in love with you, so how did it fuck up the wish? Is the magic imperfect?

>>220698686
>was the spirit of sandy, bear's cat
I saw someone earnestly propose it makes sense that it's Bear's dead grandma

>>220699205
I don't have to explain shit nigga, I get that shit for free
GRATIS
because it's a magical universe with an omnipotent malicious actor
he wants to tap into into whatever corner of her mind palace he can or he could've fabricated it whole cloth
you're the one who has to substantiate your contention

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FFS HERE’S WHAT THE MOVIE ACTUALLY ROLLS WITH

THE WISH FORCIBLY REWIRES PART OF NIKKI’S BRAIN TO LOVE BEAR MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE WHILE LEAVING THE REST OF HER PERSONALITY INTACT AND FIGHTING BACK. THAT’S WHY SHE’S FRACTURED, ERRATIC, CREEPY AND SOMETIMES SELF-DESTRUCTIVE.

IT’S NOT A CLASSIC MONKEY’S PAW THAT TWISTS THE WORDS TO FUCK YOU. THE WISH BASICALLY SUCCEEDS, BUT FORCING SOMEONE TO LOVE YOU AGAINST THEIR WILL IS ALREADY A HORROR SHOW. THAT’S THE POINT.

STOP DEMANDING WISHMASTER WORDPLAY OR FULL DEMON POSSESSION. THE MOVIE SETS ITS RULE AND STICKS TO IT. IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THAT INTERPRETATION THEN JUST SAY YOU WANTED A DIFFERENT MOVIE.

>>220700647
I was wondering about this as well. I think it's plausible that your intentions get picked up with the wish. The word "love" can mean a lot of different things in different contexts.
Bear was in an agitated and selfish state of mind when he made the wish so I just figured that's what fucked his shit up.

>>220698686
I don't need the movie to "make sense"
I don't give a shit what the magic mechanism was. I don't give a shit which, if any, particular spirit took over Nikki's body. Literally never crossed my mind and is of no concern. In fact, I think that the vagueness should be left unexplored.
I'm just here for the psycho kino and the lessons learned.

>>220699362
They were all physically attractive, though. Even the fat friend had good facial symmetry and was tall. If you saw them in real life you'd think, "Yeah, that's a hot group of friends."

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>>220700954
>Even the fat friend had good facial symmetry and was tall. If you saw them in real life you'd think, "Yeah, that's a hot group of friends."
Dude is a total baby face with chubby cheeks and all

>>220700927
>lessons learned
Never stick your dick in BPD, no matter how hot.

>>220700927
She has daddy issues of being unloved and abandoned, so that likely contributed to how she behaved post-wish

>>220701040
they said in the film she has a good relationship with her dad, that was literally a major plot point

>>220701115
>they said in the film she has a good relationship with her dad, that was literally a major plot point
Literally the opposite?

>>220701115
You're right that it was a major plot point but you seem to have entirely missed it. They say her dad lives in a different state and she hates him. He just wasn't dying of cancer.

>>220701115
It was a lie they were telling, put down your phone next time.

All your confusion comes from the fact no one of you have experienced real love before
>I wish she loves me more than anything in the world
Love (real one) is an extremely destructive emotion, it unironically turns you blind, makes you forget shit your partner did, etc.

>>220701139
>>220701164
>>220701166
ah ok I watched the cam rip version while drunk, that might be why

>>220701168
it doesn't turn you into a bpdemon. If you need a quick example, refer to this scene >>220699466

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>>220701203
Did you beat off to the sex/rape scene

>>220701240
I'm already too into cnc for that to even be possible tbqhwyl

horror camrip faggots must hang

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>You will never get to consensually rape your stacy crush after putting a love spell on her

>>220701326
horror camrip faggots are hung

>>220700647
>>220700798

It's really not that deep. It's a new personality placed over the top of the existing one suppressing it.

>>220698686
I wish they would have leaned a little harder into the 2spooky factor. Like when he went back to the shop and talked to the clerk, the clerk could have been ominous instead of a bro

>>220700647
>I WISH SHE LOVED ME ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE WORLD
Is a very specific, very fucked up version of said wish.
Then again, nicky was kind of a bitch, no way in hell she didn't know bear was into her, while at the same time fucking his best friend and trying to get rid of him with sarah while leading him on at the same time.

I was thinking of seeing this movie today should I? Would I be better off watching Orwell 2+2=5 which is about how evil Trump is?

>>220701577
I found it refreshing that the wish willo was not some monkeys paw and the store owner was chill and not some demon
He just fucked up and made a selfish wish without thinking

>>220701684
She liked him you fucking sperg. The whole theme of the movie is cowardice and avoidance.

>>220699205
The phone call seems so out of place with the rest of the movie

>>220701972
Liked him so much she fucked his best friend and not him.

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>>220702073
and 1.1GB exe files

>>220702069
>Liked him so much she fucked his best friend and not him.
thats unironically what women are like

>>220698686

by far the most unsettling movie i’ve ever seen. seeing both halves of myself depicted like that. “i’ll be anything for you.” “please kill me she’s sleeping i beg you.” holy fuck. having a fp doesn’t always mean you love them, but it does mean you feel like you can’t live without them.

i’ve been w guys where i hated them but i couldn’t choose to stop thinking ab them or trying to find any way i could to speak to or be around them. even now with my boyfriend/husband who understands to the best capacity he can and never makes me feel bad for feeling or acting “crazy” the scenes about boys night and banging on the door were awful. the guy who made it either has to have bpd or his significant other. i sobbed the entire way through.

>>220701972
the movie hints at that but it is ambiguous ultimately. if she did have some level of unresolved romantic attraction to him would she have broken up with ian if he confessed to her before the wish was made? if she didn't like him and only saw him as a brother then why press him to confess in beginning of the film? she should have taken it as a matter of course and said "i know you like me but i don't see you that way". there is a little (to stress, excusable and normal) cowardice and avoidance on her part as well when you look at it that way, though obviously this doesn't lessen the fault of bear making such a self-serving and dangerous wish and his other actions later on.

>>220702069
Are you retarded? The whole point was he was such a massive pussy he pretended to just be friends with her when he madly in love with her. She even liked him so much she took a shot right before the wish and he still bitched out.

Thinking she hooked up with the fat dude to scorn him is turbo virgin thinking.

>>220702155
YWNBAW

>>220702248
>she took a shot
She wasn't taking a shot, she was just tired of him being a beta orbiter pussy

>>220702161
it depends
a lot of women will literally run a mile from who they actually like / love and intentionally get with someone who they don't like at all
women with bpd are especially notorious for this because having someone around who they love is the most triggering thing that can happen to them
manosphere types like to make out that women always have that one guy it never worked out with because they couldn't lock him down due to him being "alpha" but honestly I think its more common that the woman herself runs a mile and then regrets it for the rest of her life. and thats when you get weird stuff like them naming their first born son after that lost love or whatever

that being said, it looks like another viable theory is that actually nikki WAS in love with bear, like fully, but actively avoided it for one reason or another. and that perhaps the wish literally just unblocked that aspect of her own psyche and allowed it to manifest fully. which due to her own personal issues caused a schism, locked the other her, the (mask) which had actually become the real her away. so it was actually nikki after all, but it was the completely unrestricted nikki that she was intentionally trying to keep locked away like when someone with bpd runs a mile so they don't end up in a perpetual loop of limerance and discard and psychosis due to stress

bpd types do tend to fall for narcissistic types too, ironically, and I've seen some breakdowns of bear's character as the archetypal covert narcissist

>>220702073
>>220702090

>>220698686
>>220699300
Hello, computer??

>>220698686
Just saw this. Theater was full of young women who were acting like this was the most horrifying movie of all time.
Overall decent 7/10

>>220702293
So Freaky Nikki was a name she earned on a manic hoe phase episode

>>220702334
Yeah what Bear did was awful. They also probably felt called out by the insane female behavior.

>>220702161
It's not ambiguous at all. The first interaction they have is her calling him and begging him to come hang out because shes quiting. If they are just friends it wouldnt be a big deal because they can hang out after work but she likes spending all day with him. Then at the bar shes being flirty, on the ride home she wants to see if he like Sara (shes knows Sara likes him and is jealous) she giving him hints the whole time and then when he still doesnt say anything she asks him directly. It couldnt be more obvious.

>>220702381
There's nothing saying a woman couldn't or wouldn't do this to a guy and it wouldn't be equally as awful

>>220702394
All of which can be explained by "they're just friends"

>>220702408
Does BPD manifest itself in the same way in men as it does for women? This movie nails the mental illness.

>>220702356
idek desu but that does bring the question was it earned or was it just something bear called her

>>220702394
sure, i don't disagree with you. even with that though there are arguments for nikki to only see bear as a brother. i think the movie is more coherent if she did have at least some level of feelings for him, even if confused and uncertain. the director said it's meant to be ambiguous and the actress thinks she did like a bear a little, i don't think either reading is wrong.

>>220702443
Nobody said it was BPD that's just a meme term getting thrown around. I mean, it would probably manifest in the guy in the same way. There will be overridden and their consciousness would be fighting against it

>>220698686
>wish a girl would love me
>she feeds me my cat
thats the opposite of love tho- i would demand a refund

Sean Connery was right.

One good slap would settle this bitch down.

>>220702394
Nah, she just liked having him on the hook. It feels good to have someone obviously in love with you even if you don't have feelings for them. So she was manipulating him to get his affection even if she had no intention or desire of ever going further.
The whole "do you like me?" question was manipulative. She asks this because she can sense he's trying to work up the courage to ask her out and getting close. Putting him on the spot like this makes him nervous and feel dumb, delaying his asking her out and thus extending him being on her hook. If he had said yes it probably would've played out like
>Bear you're drunk just go home
or
>No you don't because if you do then our friendship changes and I don't want that. So you don't like me.
She never had any intention of a romantic relationship with Bear. She never had any intention of telling him about Ian either. She wanted to keep their relationship exactly as it was for her own selfish reasons, just like Bear did for his own selfish reasons.

This is a common thing that both sexes do. There are whole sitcom episodes about it. It's a shitty thing that people do to other people to make themselves feel good.

>>220702470
They did already confirm Nikki has feelings for him.

>>220702492
It's absolutely not just a meme, that's how she was behaving.

>>220702570
oh, where? i thought the director gave an interview where he said it was meant to be ambiguous.

>>220702555
This is a very crucial thing that all people should learn, but it's something men women come to understand naturally.

Sometimes just knowing that a person would want you enough to actually take steps to be with you is a confidence boost. It empowers the individual because it let's them know they have value

>>220702582
Well, I didn't realize bpd people would stand n a carpet gor 8 hours straight shitting.And pissing themselves and also bash someone's heading with a brick for talking with their boyfriend

>>220702555
Sounds like some bitch in high school didn't actually like you and you can't let it go.

>>220702649
yeah people don't do that
cats do though
cats will literally stand at the door and shit on the carpet and throw up if they have separation anxiety and are completely alone
cats will also violently attack anyone they see as a threat to their resource of (you)

>>220702555
too much of a stretch to call her manipulative. at worst she was sending some mixed signals. as other posters have said she did try to get him admit his feelings but he couldn't do it. even if she was ok with letting the ambiguity of their emotional relationship stay it's not manipulative behavior.

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the catposter has fully convinced me

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>>220702649
Anon seek help if you need it. You don't have to stay in an abusive relationship.

ive acted like bear before with women :(

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>Freaky Nikki
I hate that they never expanded on this. Why is she called Freaky Nikki and why does she hate the nickname so much?

>>220702733
>there are “men” who get abused by women
KWAB

>>220702736
rumors and gossip get passed around in friend groups, isn't the point to just show bear is willing to repeat something objectifying about her to show that his obsession with her selfish and somewhat masturbatory in nature? taking ians advice to neg her and all that.

>>220702804
>dude don't tell her how you actually feel
>dude call her this name she hates
Ian trying to sabotage Bear so he keeps his FWB

Ian thought that her sleeping with Bear was trying to get back at him. Did she give Ian the "so what are we " and was rejected?

>>220702860
yea exactly that too
the movie accurately depicts toxic friend groups

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>>220699300
Ian didn’t give a fuck about her and was mainly just using her as an easy bang.
Also “Freaky Nicki” had always been a little off balance and the simpler explanation of her randomly hooking up with bear and acting crazy at the party was just she was having a BPD episode and both were symptoms rather than it being the product of a fucking magic spell of a willow tree.
Know I’m in the minority as a sex Haber hear on 4chan but honestly none of the shit at the party was that out of place for an average BPD zoomer chick on ssris.
Bear himself experiences more then the norm with the whole weird dancing at night/standing at the door all day and pissing yourself but the party shit is literally just what happens to 30% of fuck age girls now when you give them alchohol.

everytime I think about Ian casually hooking up with Nikki after getting off work or a night out with the group it hurts

>>220702993
It was super casual, didn't mean anything

>>220702993
Normies are animals anon. Get with the program. Do you get upset when a dog tries humping you?

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>>220699362
>>>>extremely hot
Only if you’ve never been laid.
Beyond that yeah; welcome to every friend circle ever made up of minimum wage workers in their late 20s in a no horse town.
Only caviot being the “feelings” the “””hot chick””” have for the loser are mainly familiar then romantic and to the extent they are romantic it’s only in an emotional way as her sexual needs are met by the fat ass who has the balls to smack her ass and choke her out when they fuck.

>>220703245
I mean come on anon she's at least an 8. Don't be a try hard.

>>220702716
>Latina
>insane emotional swings
Great casting.

>>220702860
It was pretty strange that he looked up her dad, and called a hospital asking about him. Wtf?

>>220703302
He wanted his fuck buddy back and was made Bear was porking her

Just saw this and the crazy hoe had nice tits glad they kept them covered up while bro was raping her -_- Also any "man" that owns a cat is gay I'm glad he died like his pussy lol

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>>220703404
>TFW Inde Navarrette has never done nudity, and will never have to now because she's famous
>She will probably only do a nude scene when she's a washed up roasty

>>220699362
I live in a small midwestern city, I worked fast food in my late teens/early 20's. I was 5"11 220lbs, not handsome but not hideous and definitely overweight.
In 2015, when I was 20 a girl from another store transferred over to our store. She was hot and became the talk of all the guys at the store.
We became friends because I was the only guy who wasn't intimidated by her and we ended up getting along great.
On my 21st birthday she took me out to a bar and after a few drinks started talking about how her boyfriend is a total homebody who never wants to go out with her.
Me and her started getting drinks after work pretty regularly. Within a month we were fucking. No romance really just casual sex behind her boyfriends back.
This went on for about 3 months before she dumped her boyfriend, got a job as a shot girl, and developed a coke habit. She cut contact with me shortly after that.

My point is, young people in low wage jobs like to have sex and will have sex with people you wouldn't expect.

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>>220703558
fuuuuck I was just about to look up if she's done nudes

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>attractive woman in love with a sub 8 man
>this is a horror concept to zoomerettes
wtf is wrong with them

that shitty little music store sure had a lot of employees!

>>220703404
unfortunately seems seems to be a bit of an LA hippie with the unshaved pits and frequently not wearing bra which is sadly already becoming apparent in their sagging

>>220703558
>will never have to
there's always hope for the "empowerment" canard, especially if she's on a project with a stars and prestigious director "for the art"

>>220699367
That's why people don't take horror movies seriously, nothing needs to be logical or make sense as long as it's "spooky".

>>220698686
This bitch is like 5'0 how is anyone supposed to be afraid of her

>>220699300
>Is Ian a turbo retard?
yes
his small loan of a billion dollars is proof
although Bear is also retarded for not telling Ian, "Hey, Nikki killed Sarah, and she got in to the college she wanted, so make sure you undo my wish so none of this happens."

>>220703712
Yeah but it's always when they hit 40 like emma stone and Jennifer Lawrence. Never in their prime.

>>220703769
She's fucking insane that's why

>>220703281
>8
>"extremely hot"

>>220698686
interesting theory

So wish Nikki loves bear, but we never even get confirmation on if she LIKES the guy when he asks her in that one scene. What do you anons think?

>>220703808
Slap that bitch

>>220703906
They were just friends before, so yeah

"Freaky Nikki" is what Ian calls her when he makes her go ass2mouth. he told Bear to say it to humiliate him, it's why she's so disgusted when he does

If I had one wish it would be that everyone itt die of dick cancer

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>>220704049
>"Freaky Nikki" is what Ian calls her when he makes her go ass2mouth.
STOP IT YOU'RE UPSETTING ME

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desu after much reflection it makes the most sense even if the director denies it
nikki became a catgirl, no one can change my mind

>>220699887
How was he eating rotten cat meat and didn't notice?

>>220704293
even the uncanny valley corner moment where you can see her face in the shadow is very catlike, the face itself, it looked a tiny bit feline, and her movement was very feline. also the phonetics of her screaming and stuff, and just the fact she was watching him while he was sleeping desu, cats do that a lot. and then she jumped to grab the flowers for sandy and only got back into bed after the fact

>>220703601
they literally don't have to settle for a 6 anymore so idk why you are surprised that the thought of being forced to do so angers and frightens them

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>>220704358
>Average cat brain mixed with a girl who used to be known as "freaky" plus forceful magic
It makes everything make sense

>>220698686
So...
She gave her own dead body to Bear eat?
Wtf?

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>>220703601
He's kind of weird and creepy, anon. I can't believe I'm saying this to someone who I assume is out of middle school, but not everything is based on looks.

>>220699367
You are on /tv/, it probably has the lowest collective IQ in this website. I would bet half the anons here don’t even wipe their ass properly and breath through their mouths.

>>220704500
Yes, that way they are together in flesh.
Also if he was dead she would eat him.
She is dead so he can eat her.
Just cat stuff.

kind of brilliant the way it weds the themes about toxic relationships with Bear's flaws. As a victim, he completely fails to grasp the gravity of the situation, brushing it off as if it were no big deal, just like someone coping trapped in such a toxic relationship would do. But that's also due to his egoistic obsession so myopic that he ignores and belittles her negative behavior. it's why I really dislike this flattening of him into just "evil" - end of discussion.

like the audience is meant to eventually turn and be fed up with him but what's presented by the text is a guy so blinded (even personified by the fog in the Sarah car scene), cognitively dissonant and deluded, obligated and trapped it just doesn't make sense to crunch that all down into a craven and even retroactive dyadic "evil" - there is a MUCH more evil version of this story

>>220699205
It’s witch magic similar to what we saw in the weapons movie.

>>220704579
I just can't get over how much of a simp and pussy he was. Like, I get anxiety around girls, but if they're just throwing themselves on you, it's not really defendable

>>220699205
I would have liked it if people kept telling him to kill himself as part of a supernatural/demon angle, and the phone call was part of breaking him.

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>>220704579
>bear
>victim

why do anons want this to be demonic possession so badly? it's the most tired and played out shit

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I don't like my dreams

>>220704658
Unfortunately he browses /pol/ and all he could think about when he was with Sarah was the word bug

>>220704658
He had quirk chungus that was into him too. Usually IRL she's 300lbs but still.

>>220704686
>in a relationship with a bpd psycho

>>220700570
>a wish cannot be reversed
then why did Bear ask Ian to undo it?

>>220704686
yes? the 2nd half of the film in a normal story or IRL dynamic most people would consider the male a victim of emotional abuse by that woman - obviously it's more complicated in this story in which he is at fault and flawed which was the point of my post

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>>220704765
That he forcibly wished to happen
And when he thought he could maybe cancel it he instead wanted to simply change it
Awful cowardly "man"
You know, I wonder if he led with that he wanted to cancel it, the entity would have let him do it. But because he still wanted her to be in love with him, he faltered and asked for it to be altered, making the entity deny any chance of canceling unless he died, and then taunted him.

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Sandy’s Shrine scene in the older script

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>>220704876

>>220704801
>If take a chainsaw to my leg, the second part of the story where I bleed out painfully and get gangrene and eventually die from my own action is a story about being a victim to the chainsaw, maybe even the manufacturer when you look at it with the right lens

>>220704917
>man chases women
>she relents and they start dating
>turns out she's insane and abusive
>well he wanted that :^)

>>220699033
There is a behind scenes on YouTube curry told her to keep squinting her eyes

>>220704494
when they're in bed and she screams stayyyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
very cat like, very reminiscient of how cats react when they're comfy and you try to move

>>220704579
people can't extend him charity because Curry is trying to have his cake and eat it too in the writing. it's just preposterous that he could not have realized what was happening sooner if you read between the lines and scenes with a modicum of critical judgement and yet Curry insists with the text presented that this is a preposterous world and Bear just cannot internalize it and so it's a bit of the tail wagging-the-dog acting so unbelievable to get us from scary set piece to set piece, an assemblage of youtube short sketches - and then he crafts the emotional arc of the film to negate what was presented by the text with the dilemma.
a story that engineers a relatably flawed guy stepping on a moral landmine so that you cheer for his destruction. a bit evil itself!

>>220704876
>>220704900
so I was right
wew
thanks mate
the cat's corpse is the only other thing she ever showed signs of protectiveness and territorialism over other than bear

>>220704949
I see, you'll just reduce anything to metaphors. Even if she was some sort of cosmic space octopus you'd say "The cosmic space octopus represents crazy women! Bear is a victim!" :^) in a movie where mind control witch craft (maybe even cat) is causing her to act that way in the first place. I yield as your stupidity is without flaw and cannot be matched

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>>220705033
>>220704949
Catbro you won, I always believed in you and your theory since post 1, congratulations

>>220704856
>And when he thought he could maybe cancel it he instead wanted to simply change it
no he asked to alter first and you don't know the nature of the alteration he'd make as he clearly does not yet understand the nature and reality of what's happened (doesn't he say "as a friend"?)- he also asks in that scene "is her love real?" he desperately wants that to be the case in that he does desire to cravenly control her, he's just all fucked up and confused which is why he then DOES ask to CANCEL

Dang, she really is possessed by a cat demon.

>>220705090
>>220705128
I can't take full credit, theory was brought to me by random roastie on tiktok
I just investigated

>>220705067
there's no shortage of women saying 2nd half reminded them of themselves or dudes in those relationships saying it was hell. idk why you're pretending my post about the nuance of victim AND abuser characterization meant victim, only victim and the only victim

>>220699205
How did the guy on the phone know the girls name? And have her voice screaming and crying?

>>220705239
Based roastie

>>220705291
He's some sort of magical entity that somehow is connected to her soul/consciousness, it doesn't have much logic. You could pretty much put anything you can think of into it to explain it. Maybe when you make a wish that alters someone that company is alerted and somehow has access to them in someway.

>>220705291
>>220705369
that was the director's voice btw

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this PhD theologian woman has been in the trenches single handedly combating all the 'you don't hate evil rapist Bear enough' Nikki pfp girlies all week lol

makes some good points
https://xcancel.com/LauraRbnsn/status/2058288468615139741

>>220705625
cheers lad will read that later

>>220705625
wtf, she understands Bear better than me and I'M BEAR

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>>220705390
How meta

>>220705732
you're a good la catposter

>>220703281
7 at best dude.
How big are are her tits?
How big is her ass??
How impressive is the proportional difference between those and her midsection???
She has a pretty face dude; ALOT of girls have that.
That alone does not make a fuckin 8.

>>220705795
rating is gay
all I know is
I'd fuckkkkkkk
but only if she was freaky nikki

>>220703245
This nigga really posting AI generated slop and comparing a woman that exists to one that could never exist.

>>220705899
a bit like bear with nikki vs freaky nikki
bosh

exploring in depth the idea of refunding the damn thing instead of just making a counter-wish was kinda dumb

>>220705976
People only get 1 wish per person
He could have tried to make his friend counter his wish I guess
Or paid a hobo

Is the moral of the story to not be a cheap fuck? He could’ve bought her that necklace or whatever but instead he spent 6 dollars on a tree branch

>>220706070
the moral of the story is to not be a faggot and if you like a girl to just tell her but same for the girl, because nikki was just as guilty as bear for not communicating feelings

>>220706070
Ian said the moral in the 1st scene, fuck those grand gesture gifts, just be honest and not a passive coward

>>220698686
Normies first yandere experience and zoomers biggest fear, relationships.

>>220706089
nah
Nikki is trying to get unstuck in life. She's just stopped hooking up with a guy when the relationship isn't going anywhere, she's leaving her job to pursue new writing opportunities, and while she is clearly willing to give Bear a chance (not the same as not acting on a crush) but who wants to be with a guy that doesn't even like you enough to admit it or take the tiniest risk. Is he even ready to date or still dealing with his grandma's death?
She makes it as easy for him as she possibly can: "if you like me, this is the time to tell me." Nikki is moving forward, Bear is not.

Why didn’t he just keep fucking her? Pathetic this movie only had 1 sex scene and didn’t show anything. He should’ve been fucking her every second she had screen time. DUDE I HAVE A 10/10 DESPERATELY WANTING MY DICK 24/7 HELP MEEEEEE

are we going to refer to him as Curry or Barker going forward?
Barker would be standard but Clive exists and Curry just feels right for his DSL harry potter obsessed blonde face

>>220706221
she felt stuck in life, but she wasn't
her feeling stuck was her own doing, it was an internal thing not an external thing
that was made clear with her dialogue in the car
she felt stuck, but she actually wasn't
one thing that really gave it away was she said nobody would ever know who she liked
she felt stuck because she wasn't being herself nor even being honest about who she was
its a common mistake that people think you can go elsewhere and just become yourself because there's no baggage
it doesn't work like that. you take your baggage with you
she could've resolved her internal stuckness anywhere
and she actually tried to do that when she asked bear if he liked her
because one of the major things she was stuck with, was him and her feelings for him
but he was just as stuck as her, if not more
and thats why she reacts to him the way she does for example with freaky nikki
him saying that is completely off the cuff and inappropriate, forced and out of context, like he was trying to force a level of rapport unnaturally
she sensed that
that he was trying to convey something unnaturally, something she wanted to hear but not in that format
and it reminder herself of her own "stuckness"
which is really what made her have a visceral reaction
she was never stuck, she just felt stuck and attached emotionally to someone else who was also stuck

>>220706070
Moral of the story is don't be a hopeless simp if someone says you're like a brother to them

>>220706227
I too miss being in high school

>>220706363
I think everyone is thinking she liked bear waaaaay more than how much she did. I'd say she liked him probably 5%, like a background thought of "I'm not into this guy, and he's like a brother, but maybe if he grows some balls and says something I'll entertain it and give it some thought"
I don't think she was emotionally attached to him much at all, he was emotionally attached to her since she helped me through a lot of things.

>>220706486
I can see why you'd think that but from what I know about women is they avoid the guys they actually like, like the fucking plague and fuck the guys they know they won't get attached to. its actually rare that you'll find out if a girl actually likes you. and even if they end up in relationships and look loved up and what not. they actually don't think that highly of the guy they're with, its more the situation they love and how it makes them look. so I think she actually had it bad for him and saw massive potential there for something special which is why she avoided it. because she wasn't honest with herself about herself, she was stuck through having a bad relationship with herself so opening herself up to a relationship with someone else based on a mutual connection would be the last thing she was ready for and she would've been terrified of that. especially if there's a shit family history there too

>>220706531
>its actually rare that you'll find out if a girl actually likes you.
I'm 35, from my life experience I've had about 6 girls initiate with me (4 led to long term relationships), I actually only let one girl know I liked her first. Hard for me to agree when it's been the opposite for me

>>220706659
yeah, thats normal
what I'm saying is none of them actually liked you
you were just a safe option for them at the time
women are too emotionally erratic to be with the guys they actually want
so they pick the safe guy thats "acceptable" who will be a good long term investment and not likely bring their psychotic side out
thats how hypergamy works
women never approach men that they perceive as being above them in value because they're too insecure, if they approach you its because they know they can have you and want you for a specific reason
and women want that which they cannot have or that which is rare above all else, so they run from it because you evoke a visceral reaction from them at a primal level, of being potentially inaccessible when they are hardwired to get the highest value (in their mind) man they can get
its basic evo psych m8
makes no difference to you because you still get tail so there's no use in a blow to the ego but its not as cut and dry as you'd think

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>>220706227
>AHHHH THE ROASTIE IS CONSCIOUS OF ME FUCKING HER
>I'M FEELING GUILT

>>220706363
>>220706531
>>220706748
absolute bollocks drivel. stop bumping my actually quality analysis posts up the thread please

>>220706950
you're in my thread you mong

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>>220706990
>I'm calling the shots in this thread now

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>>220707221

>>220698686
Ugly

>>220698754
she repeatedly smashes some other girls face into a steering wheel

am getting in bed
gonna watch obsession again
with a soco n lemonade
n some choccy
celebrate me defeat of the brinny hordes
corr, comfy
hostel is quiet
me willy is out
just had a shower
gonna have reset day tomorrow, in prep for first week of big moneys
then its on like donkey kong

>>220707869
I haven’t watch the film yet, but going off YouTube videos of women speaking about it, the film hits hard for them.

ian was a fucking asshole
when bear is reciting his declaration to nikki and the girl is like omg this is everything
it was honestly really good and if he said it THE WHOLE THING WOULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH DIFFERENT and he probably would've ended up with her but fat cunt ian spazzed out and said it was cringe
holy shit I hate him so much
ian was always the main villain

>>220707995
lmao, nikki never liked bear that way. she told sarah that bear was loved like a friend.

>>220708009
she also said nobody would ever know who she liked

ian was sabotaging it from the start holy fucking shit

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>>220705625

and it was ian who told him to call her freaky nikki aaaaaaaaaaaaa you utter bellend ian

and he's telling bear to wait
why is ian even banging the girl he knows his mate loves
what the fuck
I would smash his head in

>>220705625
I think she makes good points but I would still argue that Bear has an inability to deal with his shame and yearning for Nikki in a healthy way (inability to control self), which causes him to attempt to control the external world to deal with his feelings instead. Just because he does not wish for direct control over Nikki does not mean it was not an act born out of a desire for control.

Someone just watched Mirai Nikki and knew they could turn it into a generic less crazy western horror movie and everyone would praise it.

>>220708278
people seem to be massively overlooking how fucking awful his friends are, especially ian

bear making me seethe
biggest film fumble of all time
pussy wanker

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Would would want a gf like this?

>>220706748
>what I'm saying is none of them actually liked you
I agreed with you with the cat theory but this is actually just insane, there's 4 billion women out there, many of which will make the first move with someone they like, life isn't black and white like you think it is. Actually you know what, the cat theory is dumb

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Only 4chan would make a movie about mind controlling someone against their will to love you about how actually the mind controlly is the one in the wrong

>>220708545
Love how he makes no attempt to intervene and instead closes his eyes.

Just a bitch through and through.

>>220708545
literally me

>>220708559
its evo psych mate, I've studied it
all human beings live within certain behavioral parameters set by biology and environment and other factors
we are not completely free agents
we have a degree of agency within a closed behavioral system
that means women follow similar behavioral patterns across the board, but yes, some may deviate

hahaha
when she says
>I did just lose my cat bear
but she meant he lost his cat
thats a tell and a half
sandy lost himself when he died

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>>220708545
Just realizing Nikki straight up headbutted the window. Didn't even use the brick she was holding.

>>220708692
literally the perfect woman

>>220708545
The strength required to turn someone's head to a pulp like that must be insane, demon freaky Nikki is built different

>>220708278
I will also add that possessed Nikki's actions are also born out of an inability to control her emotional state and so instead trying to project control externally at any cost, though she's more sympathetic because her emotions are at supernaturally high levels beyond the ability of any human to self control. Bear is just a bitch.

>>220708545
Cool
You have more?

>>220708545
Now why would Bear go and make her do that baka

>>220700996
look at that obviously fake hair piece yikes, as if a girl like nikki would lay a finger on this fat baby faced fuck, honestly ruined the movie for me, his acting was dog shit too

>>220708545
The best part is the constant honking

>>220708545
Is she even human? only a gorilla could smash someone else's skull like that

what do they say when bear finds nikki placed the cat on the kitchen floor? I can't make it out other than what would make you think that was ok

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People can blame Bear all they want for being a little bitch about never making a move on Nikki (even when she gave him an opportunity) or for making the wish, but all this could've been avoided if Sarah had just told Bear she liked him from the start.

>>220699362
>has secret feelings for the biggest loser
I keep seeing people say this but nowhere in the movie is it even hinted that Nikki liked Bear. In fact there's tons of evidence to the contrary, from secretly fucking his best friend, to getting the ick and saying "ew" at the joking suggestion that she's "his girl" by Ian, to the whole "she saw you like a brother"/ Hansel & Gretal bit, putting in her notice at work, annoyingly asking outright if Bear liked her.
>but the director said so in an interview
Then he's a retard who doesn't understand his own movie.

>>220709029
thats literally what women do
they rarely actually get with the guy they want they get with the guy they can have that is safe
women hate emotional vulnerability because it makes them psychotic lmao

>>220699205
actors are so gay

>>220702733
Thank you, Blobby.

>>220708528
That's kind of the point.
He enables this and is an example of a perfect victim in a bpd relationship because he's always weak. He can't take responsibility and is focused on his own needs, becoming abusive and complicit because it's easier than taking responsibility.

Nikki is a toxic friend who becomes a victim to possession.
Ian is a fake friend who was sabotaging Bear.
Sarah is an innocent and soft art girl that just gets ignored.

It's a horror movie about about possession with a BPD relationship being the model for the horror. Everything not explicitly supernatural (strength, weird movements) is just 1:1 stereotypical bad cases of bpd women in relationships

>>220705625
Good takes. Everyone agrees that Bear is pathetic and a rapist but some idiots take it so far as him wanting control and domination or calling him a stereotypical 'nice guy'. Hes not. He's a weak man wanting affection for nothing and suddenly has to deal with really, really harsh consequences for his off the wall thoughts and can't deal with where it leads him. He doesn't have the self confidence or self worth to be there for himself or others and the situation makes it more evident and worse.

>>220708621
>I've studied it
Okay but have you ever left your room or are you just a wizard who studies everything so he knows everything?

>>220709149
Such funny scene when the audio isnt added

That's retarded. Tripfag.

>>220709149
Why'd homie shut the door behind him lol

Bear missed his chance to get the craziest head ever

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>>220709250
>Nicky takes control and bites his winky off
>Freaky Nicky takes control and then starts giving him head to his severed penis screaming why doesn't he like it it's the best head he's ever going to get

>>220709250
I'm legitimately surprised the fake Nikki didn't opt for sex more.
I suppose it would take away from the idea that Bear's focus is affection.

>>220709149
How can a scene be so funny and horrifying at the same time?

>>220709149
I'm in love
imagine how fiercely she'd protect your children

>>220709149
Post the corner and case scene please
>>220709462
She'd murder the child anon, 100%

>>220709476
no because the child is an extension of you ffs

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>>220709476

>>220709708
Looks dumb without high quality and audio kek
>>220709658
This one is still creepy though

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>>220708922
lmao I noticed that too, it's really bad

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Why did she run backwards like that. That was spooky

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>>220709658
Finally someone took inspiration from Kairo

>>220709762
I think it was the real Nikki trying to break out, like whenever she acts super psycho its like she's short circuiting as a result of the real Nikki clawing her way out and fighting back against the obsessive personality possessing her body. Still trying to figure out what she was saying in that backwards walking bit though
>real me, really hurts
>rail me, rail my guts

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