Did he deserve it
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>>220720147he got his redemption when he brazenly charged the whitewalker and bought arya the three seconds she needed to climb that tree.
>>220720147>kill random children(everyone seems to glaze this)>but lied about who the kids were and betrayed his only bros destroying their home >tries to fuck his sister(apparently that’s cool though)>wants the approval of some of the worst pieces of shit who’s culture is nigger-tier raids on small fishing villagesHonestly he shouldn’t have had the redemption arc. If you can even call it that.
>>220721251>randomThose were his bastard sons. Theon is a kinslayer.
He's much more of an asshole in the books, george reallt wants you to hate him meanwhile D&D tweaked his story a bit to make him more tragic
>>220721277The farmers kids he claimed were bran and the other retarded brother were Theons bastard kids?
>>220721332Possibly. He would sleep with their mom a bunch.
>>220720147he deserved worse
>>220721251>>tries to fuck his sister(apparently that’s cool though)He didn't know she was his sister.
>>220721332No that anon is just a retard who read that Theon fucked the farmer's wife so that makes him responsible for all her kids.Ignoring that time is a thing because Theon would have had to fuck her seven years ago in order for one of her kids to be seven.
>>220721332Wasn't killing them and posing them as Bran and Rickon Reek's idea in the first place?It makes less sense in the show since they just omitted Ramsay (forma Reek) completely for no fucking reason
>>220720147No, he deserved to be killed cleanly. Ramsey is a sadistic freak and Theon didn’t deserve all that shit done to him.
>>220721251>kill random childrenThis wordage is a framing play to use propaganda to make Theon look like a criminal murderer. Peasant classes that are ultra disconnected from society are more akin to forest critter wildlife than civilized humans. Theon would have seen them as foul, uncouth & uncivilized. It would have been no different than exterminating rodents in a barn. Try to view the world of Westeros without your libcuck lens filters on.>tries to fuck his sisterThis didn't happen. What actually happened is some filthy whore with no morals or decency enticed & seduced her own brother. Strike two on the framing propaganda play my liberal simp friend.
Theon should’ve been the one to kill the Night King. He should’ve used a dragon glass arrow and redeemed himself. Why else was he still around in the story for so long? He should’ve have that moment. It would’ve been absolute kino. Arya didn’t need it.
Yes
>>220720147He killed some children didn't he
>>220721649>he deserved to be killed cleanlyOne of his major fuckups is failing to carry out a clean beheading. I think this part was included to create some kind of justification for what happens to Theon later.
>>220720147The castration? No. Everything else? Yes.
>>220722203Children are children, you bootlicking fag. He also kills his own men to cover up his tracks after doing that switcheroo.
>>220722441Don't worry, Ramsay didn't cut his balls. He can still have children via prostate milking.
>>220722474wtf
>>220720147No.
>>220720147Yeah.Theon made every possible bad decisition he could've made at every point of his journey.Stupidity and hubris
>>220722549If Ramsay cut his balls he couldn't kick him in them and I doubt he would have passed that opportunity.
>>220720147castration is a bit much
>>220720147Not really. He was lost and confused due to his lack of sense of belonging. He deserved a severe punishment for all the vile shit he's done, but not like that. Fuck the Boltons.
>>220722390There's also a book theory that he's being punished for kinslaying because one of the miller's boys was his own since he was fucking their mother. Kinslaying is the gravest sin in the books unlike the fucking show.
>>220720147He killed his own sons.
>>220722203>murderer. Peasant classes that are ultra disconnected from society are more akin to forest critter wildlife than civilized humans. Theon would have seen them as foul, uncouth & uncivilized.Read the damn book.
>The walls of Winterfell were behind him, but Ser Rodrik faced them squarely and could not fail to see. Theon watched his face. When his chin quivered under those stiff white whiskers, he knew just what the old man was seeing. >He is not surprised, he thought with sadness, but the fear is there.>"This is craven,“ Ser Rodrik said. "To use a child so … this is despicable.”>"Oh, I know,“ said Theon. "It’s a dish I tasted myself, or have you forgotten? I was ten when I was taken from my father’s house, to make certain he would raise no more rebellions.”>"It is not the same!“>Theon’s face was impassive. "The noose I wore was not made of hempen rope, that’s true enough, but I felt it all the same. And it chafed, Ser Rodrik. It chafed me raw.” He had never quite realized that until now, but as the words came spilling out he saw the truth of themGoddamn Theon's ACOK arc's last chapters are kino, even though i love how the show killed off Ser Rodrick more.
Theon was a flailing retard for the entirety of his 2nd book POV but why didn't anyone from the high-ranking Ironborn restrain him and order the others to get the fuck out of Winterfell when shit went sideways? Why didn't Asha? She could've brought more men and dragged him away after putting Winterfell to the torch.
>>220723087Theon really was a little idiot. Can't be a Greyjoy, doesn't want to be a Stark, opts to be a shithead.>>220723237Because they didn't care that much about him. Remember, Balon was about to launch his invasion with the assumption that Theon would be executed when Theon arrived back at Pyke to make the alliance proposal.Theon was already dead to them.
Everytime a Greyjoy is born, the gods flip a coin. One side is based, the other a retard. The coin always lands on the edge.
>>220720147schlong status?
>>220723393>Because they didn't care that much about himBut don't they care about themselves? The ones that were with Theon i mean.
>>220721537>Ignoring that time is a thing because Theon would have had to fuck her seven years ago in order for one of her kids to be seven.>Theon age 18/19 at the start of the books. >Millers boys are similar in size to Bran & Rikon, ages 3 & 7 at start of bookswould have been too young to father the older of the two boys, but he could've been the father of the younger. time line wise. not that it makes that much of a difference without him ever knowing
>>220723495Victarion is the most based Greyjoy
>>220723573They're not deep-thinkers, and most of them abandon him when given the chance. The ones that stay just want to die or can't think beyond that day.
>>220723393because grrm needs awful shit to keep happening
>>220723621Why? He's a loser, coward and hypocrite.
>>220723683Cool magic arm
>>220723696R'hllor hungers!
>>220723683Badass armor and arm
>>220720147He was doomed from the start. The only correct choice was to defect from his degenerate family after they declared intent to attack Robb but there is no way any man would so quickly and easily betray their own kin. Instead he tried to fulfill his obligations to everyone and became a sinful failure. So no I do not think he deserved it. He's not a wicked person
>>220723733>Badass ... arm
>>220723747Correct choice would be looting Winterfell and leaving with Bran and Rickon as hostages and Kyra as a salt wife. North could do nothing to stop him.He would still get killed by Euron though.
>>220722203No i read the books and Theon feels really guilty about the dead kids especially because he fucked their mom before
>>220721583I'm pretty sure they did not read ahead when writing the seasons. Like in Season 1 the Reeds are never even mentioned than S2E1 they just randomly show up to help Bran who accepts them completely.I remember watching that and imagining D&D cracking open the second book, and panicking as they realized some of the 'nobodies' they omitted from the first season were actually major characters.
>>220723805No the Ironborn would still treat him like shit under their shoe and the northmen would never forgive him. Also, Bran and Rickon would almost certainly suffer and die if Balon got his spiteful, vengeful hands on them.Defection really was his only choice, but there's no way he could have made it given the circumstances
>>220723805Might not have gotten away, the northerners had gathered hundreds of troops in the areabut you're right that he still should have tried to escape
>>220721186>the lord of light brought berric back 37 times and let theon survive his torture for the sole purpose of stalling zombies so arya could escape and anime backstab the king zombie, causing all the other zombies to die
Its such a stupid tortuous and unrewarding conflict due to the books being unfinished and the show only caring about humiliation ritual
Show me how GRRM described his penis in the books please
>>220724031Fat pink mast turning cunts into a world.
>>220724031>’But my lord… I have no…’ When ordered to fluff Jeyne Pool who Ramsay has posing as Sansa to be his wife That’s it
>>220724081*Arya
