>Best Jedi in the prequels dies in the first movie
>>220743564>why didn't he just switch his fighting style?
>>220743564There is always bigger fish
He's still kind of boring, but even Obi-Wan was boring despite the OT's implied history.
>>220743564obi wan and qui gon should have been a single character, called obi wan
>>220743617This peace is what all true jedi strive for
>>220743564And Liam Neeson loves this character, every chance he has to voice him, he takes it.He voiced Qui Gon several times in the clone wars cartoon, both in flashbacks and as a force ghost.
>>220743564Yoda is the best Jedi. Qui gon is responsible for the deaths of millions of people and he still gets rewarded with a forever-ghost life.
>>220743633>He voiced Qui Gon several times in the clone wars cartoon, both in flashbacks and as a force ghost.That's dope
>>220743617Qui Gon is not boring. He is the one jedi to not give a fuck about the council. And he's based for that. All of the Jefi Council is filled with pussy idealists who never leave Coruscant meanwhile Qui Gon is the one idealist. He is much more grounded than Obi-Wan or any other Jedi.
>>220743634Yoda acted like an NPC
>>220743633Liam Neeson loves this character so much he didn't even piss himself in the costume out of respect for Qui Gon.
>>220743656That's only because he was CGI. Real Yoda is a puppet.
>>220743564The fish is always bigger
Mace Windu was my favourite besides Anakin. When I was 8 my Mum and I went on holiday to the US and I got a star wars tshirt at Universal where they take a photo of you and stick your face on the head of the character you want so my little pale face is on Mace's black head
is reddit trying to help or hurt the star wars brand by spamming the prequels everyone fucking hates
actually he sucks because he's not a wise mentor like yoda or something
>>220743643This
>>220743795He is specifically stated to be as wise as yoda and as good a fighter as mace but he is being denied the rank of master because of his reckless unorthodox tactics.
>>220743643Unfortunately his lone wolf rogue persona is barely communicated to the viewer unless you start reading afterthought lore bullshit
>>220743643The one realist* my bad I typed that in a rush.
>>220743884It's all clear if you watch the movie.
>>220743881I forgot but isn't a green saber meant to highlight a person who is morally gray?
>>220743912Green is for better at magic than swordfightingBlue is for better at swordfighting than magic
>>220743617Most of the Jedi are boring because Lucas didn't bother to imbue any of them with any ounce of personality, so the actors just phoned it in.
>>220743564Qui Gon is a badass but ultimately his rebellious nature lead to the rise of vader and the empire
>>220743926bullshit, back then green was for master and blue was for trainee
If Qui Gon lived and teached Anakin, he would have not turned evil. An akin needed a father not a brother (Obi Wan)
All the best characters in the prequels were villains anywaySame with the original trilogy
Nigga vibe-checked a sleeping animal that turned out to be descended from Sith Alchemy
>>220743564He should have left the Jedi like based Dooku
>>220744053How would that stop Anakin's mother from being gangraped to death by sandniggers?
>>220744279Have Qui gon take her as a concubine
>>220743610>>220743690Fish always greener on other side
>>220743626>No>YOU are your father
>>220744279>>220744318>Qui-Gon brings Anakin to visit mom every year so they stay in touch and he isn't so protective of her>Qui-Gon furiously finger-blasts her when they get a moment alone, so she doesn't have to settle for a moisture farmer in the boonies
>>220743634>Yoda is the best Jedi.Yoda had blind faith in his beliefs which ultimately led to their downfall
>>220744425Seeing as Anakin could have sex with Padme without anyone knowing this should be a lot easier
>>220743564I watched the prequels recently again after not watching them for years and I couldn’t help but feel genuinely bad for Anakin when he tells Padme he feels lost in Ep 3. Right after he and Obi part ways for the last time as friends. He was torn between his values, loyalties, his friendships, and his love. It actually felt relatable to some points in my own life.All I could think after having watched the previous episodes directly before was that Qui-Gon would have been the perfect person to guide him there. Say the right things to bring him back into the light, to give him clarity and grounding. Someone who wasn’t blind and indifferent like the council, but also someone who wasn’t manipulative like Palpatine. Obi was more like an older brother figure who even though was always more perceptive of reality than Qui Gon was, he was still not as in tune with more worldly feelings. Had Qui Gon survived there would be a strong chance Anakin wouldn’t have fallen. That’s why the song was called Duel of the Fates
If Qui-gon had lived he probably would have been kicked out of the order and he becomes a grey jedi of sorts, he would have still trained Anakin but away from the order and most importantly would have kept Anakin away from Palpatine.
>>220744318He's too poor to buy her from the jewish slaver though.
>>220743597The input on his controller didn't register because of the clunky design of the programing code, aka the "force".
Everything they were trying to do with him in the movies was botched because all his plans and actions made no sense. And then he is never mentioned again after he died. So the idea of maverick jedi who would have been the best person to train and raise Anakin but was tragically killed early is more of an invention of the fandom than anything that was actually on screen.
>>220744459Yoda didn't want Anakin because he saw him as unstable. Quigon decided to die and obi-wan was guilt-tripped into taking Anakin as a padawan to honor Quigon's last wish.
>>220745004that's why the Jedi have a rule to stay away from whores. You end up making bad decisions because of them.
>>220745079Just kill him
>>220743564A white man playing a Chinese guy.
>>220743629But what do they have for DINNER?
>>220745567Qui gon is a white name
>>220745567He should have been called Qui-lo.
i rewatched this movie recently and it seems like liam neeson phoned in this role. so unenthusiastic and not very stoicly jedi like. ewan mcdonalds was better but also pretty basic
>>220746037I thought he was the star of the movie personally
>>220743564>Best Jedi>makes completely retarded decisions throughout the film he's in>Actively blinded by the chance to train "le chosen one">Is unironically responsible for the destruction of the Jedi and the rise of the EmpireWhy do retards simp for this faggot again? Because of some retarded hollow theory he'd somehow be able to keep Anakin from going to the Dark side?
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>>220743699Kek please tell me you still have the shirt
>>220743629Please, your omnipotence, have mercy!
>I went up and down areas with a lightsaber, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some 'sith bastard' would come out of a cantina and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him."Is this the Jedi way?
>>220746037What the prequels really lacked imho is "clarification" scenes for key characters.For instance in the OT almost all of the major characters have at least one solid scene where they explain plainly what they're all about. That makes it clear to the audience where that character stands, what their values are and so on.In the prequels, a lot of the key characters do not have such scenes.Qui-Gon, Kenobi, most of the jedi, Dooku, Fett, Grievous, etc... they seem to "do stuff" but what really needed to be done is for them to have a definitive "where I stand" scene to explain what they're about.Kenobi for instance is a key character in all three prequel movies but it's almost like he never speaks his mind and stays distant the entire time.The jedi are all cyphers and just offer weird impersonal platitudes and speak in riddles.Dooku is ever more so like that, you get a little glimpse of his own agenda when he talks to Kenobi but even then it seems unclear and too brief.Compare it to the OT where Kenobi, Yoda, Vader and Palpatine clearly and openly state what they're about so there's no mistaking it. You're not left with unclear information about them. Everything you need to know is conveyed.Qui-Gon in particular needed a scene in TPM where things slow down so he can state what he's about. There are glimpses of that, but it's left kinda vague and he comes off too distant, almost like he barely cares about anything going on and is just on rails.
>>220746281The only character in the prequels that actually does this and has a proper character arc is funnily enough fucking Jar Jar Binks.
>>220746239qui gon understood the corruption that was taking place
>it’s almost like that’s the fucking plot and reason Anakin turned to the dark side for movies that came out in the fucking 70s
>>220746037He's my favorite part of the movie
>>220743564The entire idea of the “clone wars” was cooler when it was just an off handed comment by Luke
>>220743643>Coruscantmemory unlocked>Just came out cinema seeing The Phantom Menace>went out with friends for coffee after>wearing my signature star wars tee>kind of peckish not too hungry but want something>hot grill serves us coffee>here's my chance.avi>can I get a Coruscant with that?>tfw
>>220746136Oh he tried to open it like a bottle? lel
killing off Maul in the first movie was a mistake
>>220746552People miss the obvious with these Palpatine henchmenMaul : obedient silent enforcer clad in black with a menacing presenceDooku : eloquent old fallen jedi with a chain clasp cape and fencing styleGrievous : wheezing cyborg that was rebuilt from a once proud warriorAll three combine to foreshadow Vader. That's why none of them had a more prominent role in the movies. They were not meant to steal the show (despite being interesting), just be thematic building blocks for Vader
>>220746570nice AI slop post
>>220746570Yeah cool, shame that makes the fucking movies worse as a result.
>>220746552What do you think he could have added if he had stuck around? He served his role in the story.
>>220743564Neutrals like Qui Gon and Big Dooku had to die in order for the force to stratify fully so it could accelerate into correcting itself
>>220746639he should have been the leader of the separatists and while everyone is focused on him Palpatine is doing his thing behind the scenes. Each movie having a new baddie sucks because they don't get any development
>>220746689I disagree. I think using an ex-jedi for the leader of the CIS is brilliant. It just gives you enough plausibility for the entire faction so neutral systems would consider joining them. That way they look legitimate instead of openly run by a sith lord.
>>220743564>bestJust to be sure, you're comparing him to other Jedis, right?Weren't "Jedi" supposed to be some sort of rare, mysterious group?Aren't the movies, like, FOCUSED on LOTS of Jedis working EVERYWHERE in the galaxy? Including an enormous political spectrum?And whenever they appear, ANYWHERE, basically EVERYONE recognizes them and starts pointing and commenting,>"Hey look! A Jedi!">"Don't point, Gerald; you know they don't like that!"So rare. So mysterious.
>>220746764There's a couple of thousand jedi in a galaxy of (let me look it up) 100 quadrillion.I'd say that's pretty rare.
>>220746689That would certainly be a different movie.
>>220746138I'm sorry it's back home
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>>220746689Nah it should have been Dooku.Maul is just a lame ass character that shouldnt have existed in the first place.
>>220746281Yep so many characters just needed 1 good scene like you said. Why does Windu sound like a stern jerk half the time? Maybe they have a scene where he talks about how for a while they thought he was the chosen one which is what led to his fighting style, purple light saber- all stuff that tries to balance the light and dark sides- and yet nothing came of it. So now he has a little bit of regret at what he's dedicated his jedi carer over and some mixed emotions about Anakin. They falsely interpreted the prophecy before so they could do it again and right or wrong they now have to be extra careful with raising and training Anakin.
The fact that Yoda himself became Qui Gon’s apprentice in the force once they made contact through the netherworld of the force (end of Ep.3) should tell you everything you really need to know. It took Yoda failing and seeing the order get exterminated for him to realize Qui Gon was right about almost everything in regards to the bigger picture. Anakin wouldn’t have fallen
>>220743564I don't know what we're discussing but Darth Jar Jar is real and I wish Lucas hadn't pussed out and removed him from the rest of the trilogy.
>>220746309>a proper character arcDoes he? Because from what I remember he starts as a vile coward with no honor or courage and by the end of the movie, he stays exactly the same. The only moments where JJ fights back in the last battle are those where he does so by accident. When he's cornered with the general of the army, he surrenders.There's also no moment where we're led to think he has some form of wit, a la Oz's Scarecrow, everything impactful he does he does so by accident.Compare and contrast him with C3PO, who in the first movie alone puts himself in danger's way for the sake of the crew and actually shows how smart he can be while in the Death Star.I'm not memeing when I say JJ had a lot of potential, both as a joke character and an actual character, but Lucas missed the mark entirely with whatever he wanted to do with him. The reasons of people's hate might have been superficial but they were not unjustified.
>fuck the mentor of obi wan, the finder of anakin, the student of yoda, and the highest ranking guy to first realise the jedi are bullshit, lets kill him in movie 1
>>220746995But that's literally the whole point of the fall of the Jedi
>dies>never brought up againHe should have been the Kircheis of the series
>>220743564>bestIn my day you got points for not getting a lightsaber impale in you
>>220747105He was meant to be in all three movies actuallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=311WRH4XNUw
>>220747176He needed to have flashbacks in the other 2 movies and his Episode 1 antics needed to be less retarded. And that would have gone a long ways to improving the prequels
>>220747251It would have been cool to see a flashback with Lee and Liam
>>220747176>essentially a post credit scene at the very endToo late. There needed to be an episode 2 scene where Obi Wan doubts his ability to train Anakin and Qui Gon is brought up at bare minimum.
>>220746281They should have had one of those primers for babies like they did for the sequels. But maybe that would have been too subtle.
>>220746482This except I'm not a faggot so it hit different coming from me.
>>220746764You don't understand the scale of Galactic society
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>>220747370There’s a scene in Ep 2, right after Anakin slaughters the tuskens, you see Yoda meditating alone and he feels the disturbance. While he’s doing this you distinctly hear Qui Gon yelling “No Anakin, No!!!”. He was watching Anakin through the force, he was well aware of the events transpiring, and this is why he attempted to make contact with Yoda. Then later Dooku admits to Obi Won that he really misses Qui Gon and could use his help. When he says the line specifically you can tell he’s actually being genuine.
>>220743617This
>>220743564Qui Gon bros... we're back
How I would change Episode I>make Jarjar unable to speak/understand English/Basicpretty much solves everything annoying about Jarjarand my main issue with Episode IMaybe by Episode II he'd have learned it, which explains his dialogue with obi/ani/padme and his senatorial scenesBut replace all his dialogue in Episode I with alien language and he becomes far less annoying and "mascot" coded
>>220748210FUARK
>>220748210>when you turn around and see a rapist of color
>>220748238You talk like a faggot.
>>220748210>OH FUCK A ZABRAK
>>220748451& you talk like a nigger
>>220748210How did he not piss his pants right there?
>>220744053>If Qui Gon lived and teached Anakin, he would have not turned evil.Before being an actor Liam Neeson was a teacher, but he was fired from the school for punching a student in the face. I don't think he has the right skills.
>>220744318Damn, that would have worked
>>220749319Wtf lmao
>when you lost the cap for your evian bottle
>>220744053Qui-gon would have failed because1. He was blinded by his own hubris to train the chosen one and failed to recognize Anakin's shortcomings or failings2. His own fucking student couldn't even bother to learn his mentor's teaching style making Qui-gon a shit teacher.
>>220743643what I really like about his character is that he is sniffing around the same rabbit hole that count dooku was messing with. was good character development for yoda too who was like "yeah bro looks like there's some kind of conspiracy here, interesting huh?"
>>220743564Everything about the prequels sucked
>you were right about one thing, master: the negotiations were short :)This banter is so goofy but I love it.
>>220748210Did he saw a nigger?
>>220748238There might be something to this.
>>220748210COSHED
>>220750232>>220750232
the look in her eye, you just KNOW they bangedliam neeson is known to be THE most hung guy in hollywood, possibly one of the biggest in the world. his cock has been described as "like an evian bottle", with gargantual thickness that would rival shane diesel and shorty mac. im estimating his size to be at least 8.5" bone pressed, with OVER 7" of girth. he would have absolutely destroyed portman's pussy.they would have spent hours and hours on foreplay, getting herself wet enough just so she can take it. i can just imagine her begging for it, with liam barely able to force it past the knob, and portman moaning and squirming, demanding him to force it in deeper. she would have orgasm'd within seconds of taking the entire length, being filled and stretched right up to her cervix.. the orgasm would have been powerful, with her vaginal muscles clamping down on liams throbbing monstrosity, her whole body quivering in euphoria..i bet she still masturbates to the memory of it
>>220750324
One of the main points of The Phantom Menace is that Qui-Gon dies. He's the only actually good jedi, and he would've raised Anakin correctly as a proper father figure. He had to die because it serves as a counterpoint to everything else. In the old Roger Ebert review of Episode 1 he compares Qui-Gon to John the Baptist which is a better reading than any other review.
>>220750368>In the old Roger Ebert review of Episode 1 he compares Qui-Gon to John the Baptist which is a better reading than any other review.I never saw it like that wow
>>220743564>Still seething for over two decadesLet's go for three RLM fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p2L2fnKTw4&list=RD2p2L2fnKTw4&start_radio=1&pp=oAcB
>>220750588Kino...
>>220750588Good times, better times, simpler times
>>220750588For me it's https://youtu.be/2z9XTeeA43o
>>220750368>He's the only actually good jedi, and he would've raised Anakin correctly as a proper father figure.Where does this retarded head canon come from? The way Qui-gon is presented would make it seem like he'd fail just as bad.
>>220743564He doesn't look like a Qui-gon
>>220751027Not true.A point is made that Kenobi reluctantly takes on Anakin as a padawan, and only because Qui-Gon told him to do so. Kenobi wasn't ready at all, he was still a padawan himself at that point.On top of that Kenobi seems ways too rigid and judgmental, which is reinforced over and over.Qui-Gon, despite coming off serious and stern, appears to understand the assignment and the importance of Anakin.Kenobi is just a glorified hall monitor basically and because of that Anakin's frustration keeps mounting.I can totally see Qui-Gon being willing to discuss anything with Anakin and help out, while Kenobi seems to be exactly the kind of person that keeps judging Anakin no matter what he does. A germanic-coded stickler for rules and regulations.
IN SPANISH, «QUI GON JINN» MEANS «LITTLE SHITTER».
>>220743884>Unfortunately his lone wolf rogue persona is barely communicated to the viewer>Uses a child to gamble in a high stakes race
>>220751095>A point is made that Kenobi reluctantly takes on Anakin as a padawan, and only because Qui-Gon told him to do so. Kenobi wasn't ready at all, he was still a padawan himself at that point.That's a point against Qui-gon not Kenobi. Qui-gon should have recognized Obi-wan's inability and instead placed the entire responsibilty on his apprentice because he was too fucking obsessed with a prophecy. That shows Qui-gon was too obsessed to properly teach Anakin>Obi-wan is too strictShows Qui-gon's own teachings failed to imprint. Huge sign that he sucked as a teacher.>Qui-Gon, despite coming off serious and stern, appears to understand the assignment and the importance of Anakin.He seems completely obsessed actively doing morally dubious things and even foresaking the Jedi Council for the sake of his own passion project. Qui-gon didn't see ANY of the red flags in Anakin and would have gladly ignored them for the sake of prophecy.>I can totally see Qui-Gon being willing to discuss anything with Anakin and help out.If anything Qui-gon would just be the kind of parent that gives into any ego trip Anakin has because he sees no wrong in him. The dude is not capable of being stern enough with Anakin, he was hardly attentive to Obi-wan. Qui-gon would have not provided enough discipline to Anakin. He's the opposite issue to Obi-wan and Anakin would have fallen to the dark side because of a lack of dicipline rather than the overbearing acts of the Jedi.
>>220751302Nah, Qui-Gon definitely understood the value of teaching. Kenobi didn't. Kenobi was way too strict and a wet blanket overall. Also Qui-Gon knew Anakin for maybe a few days (?!) so not enough time to address his issues. Anakin was still in formative years etc... There's nothing that conveys that Qui-Gon would impart "no discipline" as you frame it. Kenobi is clearly a proper jedi, just not a good teacher due to his inexperience.Qui-Gon on the other hand had years of teaching experience and a more mature mind for it.Also if Qui-Gon didn't do what he did Anakin would've grown up and no doubt eventually show up on Palpatine's radar eventually.
>>220749319You know, I realise he may not be "outright" pissing himself, but that's that last fucking squirt of piss that never quite gets evacuated as you get older. You know that little drop that always spills out on your boxers 5 minutes later, but the problem is the evian bottle makes such effect more pronounced
>>220743597Maul was kinda a wild card. He was trained specifically as a jedi killer and the fact he didn't kill them both is kinda unexpected
>>220743881Fuck lol I dunno what ill ever do with this image but im saving it
>>220751302Obi-Wan's weaknesses come from also being a much older padawan. Qui-Gon saved him from the Council telling him he had enough chances to seduce an older man, and needed to retire to the twink-death mines. Qui-Gon's thing was seeing potential in unusual places. He wasn't trying to radically change Obi-Wan, because Obi-Wan was already a young man, older than Anakin. Obi-Wan was just trying to teach him to relax a little, because it's what his potential needed to blossom. He was planning to drop Obi-Wan for Anakin, Obi-Wan was basically a kid in summer school that Qui-Gon was pushing over the line to graduate. The man Obi-Wan is has little to do with Qui-Gon, and if he reached knighthood without Qui-Gon, he probably would have died several times over.
>>220743564Qui gon? More like Quite gon
>>220749319That's just his aura leaking
Awful dogshit movie but I liked Maul (pre-Failoni) and it has some kino YTPs worth your time: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j9-W2a7XLzY&pp=ygUcb2JpIHdhbiBkcmlua3MgcXVpIGdvbidzIGdpbg%3D%3D
