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>>220744069
A good question, for another time
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does any of the maul cartoon shit they've made since then address any of this
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Dathomir? isn't that the heckin' planet where Darth Maul and his estranged brother Savage Oppress were born?!
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>>220744172
No. Bringing Maul back and trying to make him some crime boss was the start of Star wars retardation
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>>220744172

They continued Emilia Clarke’s story in comics, she’s fighting Vader
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She looks so much hotter as a brunette
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>>220744212
so has vader just fought everybody in the galaxy at this point
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>>220744212
pretty good art
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>>220744069
I GO TO DATHOMIR
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>>220744221
True
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>>220744069
>ignites his lightsaber on a holocall so audiences know its darth maul
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>>220744201
Is Savage Oppress related to Darth Icky?
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>>220744069
Darth Maul is cool designwise but they're using him too much. Come on, the fucking galaxy is bigger than that.
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>>220744069
Still the best of disneywars slop
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>>220744248
why is she dressed like a toddler?
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>>220744291
She’s dressed like a woman preparing for motherhood
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>stupid cartoon spin-off shit makes its way back into the films
honestly embarrassing.

there was a Republic Commando book series as a tie-in to the video game, and it was breddy gud. Karen Traviss also wrote some Halo and other tie-in books, i trust that she did a good job. people wax lyrical that [person] 'cares about the lore' when really, that's just a writer's job.

the way this shit all gets smushed into Star Wars basically at random, for someone else to 'figure out later', it's a shameful mess. HIRE AN AUTHOR. SOMEONE WHO WRITES FOR A LIVING. USE THEIR SCREENPLAY.
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>>220744212
Please tell me she dies.
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>>220744313

George Lucas in 2019 "I wanted Maul as the big bad of the sequel trilogy"

If Lucas made Ep7 you would have "cartoon shit", he was involved in The Clone Wars and Maul’s return is canon for him
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>>220744280
He's the only villain outside of Vader the fans like at this point.
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>>220744069
If the lower half of his body is missing, how are his victims supposed to suck his dick and/or eat his shit?
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>>220744370
Yeah, I am pretty sure Darth Talon shit won't go anywhere.
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>>220744306
She is dressed like a retard
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>>220744430
Maul was a chick?
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>>220744449
Yes, that's how xe identifies, chud piece of shit.
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>>220744449
No, but now he has a daughterfu.
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>>220744370
If he wanted Maul to be such a big deal why did he cut him half and throw him down a garbage chute?
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>>220744313
Is this bait? Karen Traviss was awful. She was by far the worst EU author and her books were the only bad thing about it.
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>>220744212
>I recognise who trained you by how you fight
>Do you?
>WHO TRAINED YOU? WHO WAS YOUR MASTER?!
...
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>>220744172
Of course not kek. The cartoon takes place years before this. They'll never bring it up again.

>>220744204
Agreed. He should have stayed dead because it made death meaningless for the entire franchise for him to survive.
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>>220744494
Retard discovers the idea of creative ideas evolving. Same reason why Vader was not Anakin in the first movie and Leia wasn't Luke's sister until Return of the Jedi.
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>>220744370
>...and the new Darth Vader is female
>and the Chosen One™ is female
>and all the powerful protagonists are fema... hey, where's everyone going?
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>>220744201
The fact that George never took this whole saga seriously is hilarious.
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>>220744212
This is unbelievable cringe. This not a character that should be doing anything but running or dying to Darth Vader. I'm going to assume whatever tranny made this garbage comic pulled all sorts of bullshit to prevent him from strangling her to death with the force right then and there.
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>>220744370
>>220744430
those comics were so dumb. timeskip and yet Star Wars is the same universe as always (at least the Old Republic comics were different). badass Luke Skywalker Jr has to fight Darth Venger and Darth Tits'lek because the New Sith Empire wins in (the backstory of) the far future.

dunno. it was just hard to take seriously. i'm guessing Lucas simply liked the character design and not all the actual Krayt/Talon bullshit. comic books CAN tell a good story but Legacy sucked.
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>>220744494
Because back in 1999, he didn't have an idea for Darth Maul, he just wanted some cannon fodder Sith. It's only after he realized fans REALLY liked him, Lucas decided to bring him back in CW. And then he came up with this new sequel idea after someone showed him art of Darth Talon from SW Legacy and Lucas went HOLY SHIT, THAT'S A BALLER CHARACTER DESIGN.
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>>220744201
Wtf, Darth Maul had a brother named BadGuy McNoGood?
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>>220744559
That's obviously the case. He liked the look of the character and wanted to separate her from that story and place her in his own. I don't necessarily disagree about that series' shortcomings and flaws, but I still liked it. 150 years after RotJ with an army of Sith and a very different set of heroes and galactic status quo was a lot better than anything Disney has done and it isn't close.
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>>220744510
>edit a comic
>use the wrong font
>get C-3PO's name wrong

nice try, anon-kun. but there was already this comic.

and don't forget that in nu-canon, Darth Vader duelled Luke before The Empire Strikes Back, and Boba Fett fought Luke shortly after A New Hope (but Luke had sand in his eyes).
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>>220744559
>i'm guessing Lucas simply liked the character design
That was exactly the case. He didn't give a fuck about Legacy comics, just liked her design and thought she would be cool as Maul's apprentice, because they look so similar.
And fans didn't mind, because Legacy Talon wasn't much of a character and this rewrite actually sounded like a cool idea. And that's why now everybody's so hyped for Devon.
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asajj ventress>>>>>>>darth maul

she's the better dathomirian character
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>>220744546
>hey, where's everyone going?
To masturbate. Because George's females were hot.
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>>220744568
i want to play with her tendrils, bros.
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>>220744172
this was one of the few times maul was used without filoni's approval
even though he didn't create maul, he loves him like a son, though ahsoka will always be his little princess
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>>220744248
imagine her farts from that chili
*snnnifffff*
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>>220744647
Judging by Maul: Shadow Lord, Filoni took it in stride.
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>>220744643
Those are called lekku and allegedly petting them makes twi'lek's horny.
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They should bring back Ray Park, just to see what happens.
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>>220744510
You're reading it backwards.
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>>220744609
>>220744619
fair enough anons. Lucas made some weird choices (renaming Korriban to Cummerbund or whatever? why?)
but i think a lot of people are in agreement that picking-and-choosing from the EU mess isn't such a bad idea. it's what Disney are sort-of doing, but i've never heard anyone say
>oh yeah, THAT'S the Thrawn i wanted!

it's been nearly 20 years since i perused any of this shit, are there any comic series worth reading? relatively standalone ones? i have enough passable EU knowledge if it's about the Old Republic or the New Jedi Order or whatever.
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>>220744069

>Darth Maul has more media than fuckin Luke Skywalker or Obi-Wan.

how
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>>220744724
>are there any comic series worth reading?
I am more of a novel kind of a guy, but I genuinely liked By the Emperor's Hand series about Mara Jade. Also, I have nostalgia for Knights of the Old Republic series. And Agent of the Empire, but that's mostly because of the coomer content.
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>>220744234
It looks stiff as fuck for a fight scene.
>>220744510
He's saying he recognizes she's a Teras Kasi user, which is not contradictory to asking who's her master.
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>>220744724
The EU wasn't a mess, it was peak kino. The Legacy comic series was legitimately good and worth reading. But the best Star Wars comic series by far was Knights of the Old Republic, go read that immediately if you haven't.
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>>220744746
it's like some animu shit, where you learn Space Hunter Cobra or Lupin the Third was originally a side character in the author's earlier series.

the franchise is ACTUALLY about Maul and his sad childhood, then going from Sith apprentice to crime lord. those 'Star Wars' films and shows are just the prequels/gaidens.
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>>220744248
Plastic bags? Thanks for ruining not only Westeros, but Earth as well Khaleesi.
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>>220744746
Obi-Wan Kenobi has 9 hours and 2 minutes of screentime. Maul only has 2 hours and 31 minutes.
https://starwarsscreentime.wordpress.com/home/characters-screen-time/
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>>220744796
>statue has a penis because it's art
>the actual comic art can't show nips

never understood American comics tbqh. Crossed can show horse cocks, dismemberment, and rape, but nipples are always covered by a wisp of smoke...?
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>>220744808
>Knights of the Old Republic
I miss Jarael. The writers introduced an honest to god, genuine race of space elves and we haven't seen them since.
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>>220744796
What is Race Bannon doing in Star Wars?
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>>220744825
old Colman's logo, but i'm guessing by the time this was taken the carrier bag charge was in effect. so each of those bags was 5p or 10p which goes towards environment causes.

the bigger waste is buying these spice mixes in the first place. you can be bothered to fry off some chilli, presumably dice and brown onions/peppers/chillies, but you can't be arsed to measure out a few teaspoons of paprika and cumin...?
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>>220744911
The same thing he's doing in Johnny Quest series. Being a fuckboy.
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>>220744922
You're forgetting they had to remove a large part of her frontal cortex.
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>>220744808
>>220744902
i love this goofy shit so much. colourful Moebius planets, battery-powered sabers, unreliable bioships, Jedi Knights as weird Green Lantern monks.

i like the PC game but it's not MY Old Republic. any passing reference to Naga Sadow or whatever, they fail to mention the Sith Empire were once red-skinned Egyptian sorcerers.
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>>220744212
>Teräs Käsi
what the fug am I reading?
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>>220744962
yeah she might literally have the mind of a toddler by now/then.

normally couldn't care less about celebrities' personal lives, but the interview where she revealed that was pretty harrowing. i'm 'only' in my 30s and i feel like i've dodged so many health problems.
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>>220744201
Darth Immabadguy and Stinko Poopie (unrelated to Count Dookie).
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>>220745025
It wouldn't be Star Wars if it didn't have retarded names.
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>>220744222
>so has vader just fought everybody in the galaxy
Worse, he's been a jobber to every inbred retard with a lightsaber in the entire galaxy. Name a fight he actually won?
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>>220745025
it's a reference to the film where she mentions it to explain how she (a woman) can do superheroic hand-to-hand combat.

which, in turn, is a reference THAT I NOTICED (i noticed it, guys!) to the PlayStation 1 fighting game.
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>>220744854
>Crossed can show horse cocks, dismemberment, and rape, but nipples are always covered by a wisp of smoke...?
There are lots of topless women with visible nipples in Crossed, retard.
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>>220744716
Ray Park is allegedly an alcoholic/drug addict disaster nowadays, so I don't think that's ever going to be possible.
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>>220745138
Exactly. It would be a wonderful mess. Trying to do a jumping spin and he just falls over and vomits.
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>>220744222
you'll have to be more specific!
>laugh track
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>>220745110
he beat the emperor
but not really
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>>220744922
I was guilty of this until I started to browse >>>/ck/. I have learned a lot.
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>>220745158
>ACHTUALLY, I've killed MANY fathers. Could you be more specific *looks into camera*
I hate everything SW comic related.
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>>220745138
damn, that's sad.

what i DON'T get is not bringing back Peter Serafinowicz. yeah he's said some bad things about The Phantom Menace, so what. he's the voice of Darth Maul, i always took the animated VAs to be their own thing (e.g. they didn't dub over Ahsoka with whoever voiced her).
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>>220745157
I can almost assure you than in any live-action that happens from now on, he will be replaced by Witwer.
I don't see Maul getting a lot of live-action appearance, but still.
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>>220745123
It's also a reference to by far the most OP and broken profession in the old MMO Star Wars Galaxies. Teras Kasi masters could practically solo anything in the game, from Jedi players to Krayt Dragon's to Rancors to Mandalorian Deathwatch commandos. It was absurd.
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why did filoni steal dathomir from a star wars book from 1994 that is not canon but for some reason the planet and the witches riding rancors on the planet are canon
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>>220745178
Pre-Disney Star Wars comics made Dark Horse were much better. This is pure modern Marvel slop.
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>>220745178
they came right of the gate with this stuff, too. the new comics were some of the first entries in the new canon, blank slate, and they went with shit like
>who's to say Luke and Vader HADN'T duelled before Empire? ;-)
>how do we know Boba Fett didn't hunt down Luke on Tatooine? ;-)
>what if Han Solo had a secret wife he never mentioned? ;-)
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>>220745158
is this an edit referencing the street fighter movie or is this real
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>>220745183
>Peter Serafinowicz.
I legit forgot Maul had speaking lines in Episode 1. He was such a "cool, silent type" back then, compared to his VERY talkative post-Filoni self
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>>220745208
last time i brought this up, an anon pwned me with his superior knowledge.
but the original Star Wars Roleplaying Game served as a REFERENCE for some ideas that made it into the prequels. e.g. Coruscant as the Imperial City planet.

(it was introduced earlier in one of the novels. my mistake, loremasters.)
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>>220745294
nope, it's real.

plenty of meltdowns at this on /co/ when it was fresh/storytimed:
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/69073087/#69084133
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/72651490/
etc.

now we have the Obi-Wan Kenobi series with the whole
>...Darth.
duel, and Obi-Wan secretly meeting Leia before the first film. so fuck it, continuity is out the window.
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>>220745342
so dathomir and the witches riding rancors is from that? is that game canon?
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>>220745412
Kek, the seethe is funny.
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>>220745183
>>220745308
I like Sam Witwer, he is a good actor and he puts his all into any role he gets because he cares about details, but I agree that his voice isn't really Maul and they should have gotten the original guy back.
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>>220745473
this is the original guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCLn94xi1LQ
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>>220745412
Has been since the minute Disney took over and ousted Lucas. None of the hack fraud retards at Lucasfilm like Filoni actually understand, like, or care about Star Wars or quality storytelling. They are lazy, incompetent, and cut corners on everything to milk le epic nostalgia bait moments like jangling keys for babies.
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RAAAAGGGHHHHH I HOPE I DON'T BE A MASSIVE FAILURE AGAIN
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>>220745491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGUjkvqkmQI
>Good luck!
He's too good for Nu-wars.
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>>220745524
kek, too real

The Maul cartoon is a massive nothing burger waste of time because his story ends with him as a stranded old man on a deserted planet and then cut in half by Obi-Wan for a second time a week later.
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>>220745637
They really made him get cut in half AGAIN? Holy humiliation ritual.
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>>220745676
More diagonal this time, but pretty much.
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>>220744631
>dathomirian
she's a rattataki, motherfucker, and i dont give a shit what riggatoni says
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>>220745740
And Maul is an Iridonian Zabrak. Neither are Dathomirian and Filoni is a retard for enexplicably making them from the same evil witch planet and pretending they are the same species.
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>>220744796
she's an odd-looking nautolan
then again most of the time people fuck up twi'leks so what was i expecting
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>>220745637
If the character of Devon doesn't go anywhere, then yes, that whole show will be a giant waste of everyone's time. But if she's in fact is being set up as Maul's successor, then I would say that the show will excel in what it attempted.
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>>220745842
I assume she needed to look fuckable enough.
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>>220745294
>the street fighter movie
And the Batman Beyond dialogue.
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>>220745885
nautolans are plenty fuckable as-is
that woman's nose is too big and her eyes are too small for a proper nautolan
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>>220745864
There is absolutely nowhere interesting to take that character.
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>>220745864
did they make freezing people in carbonite a standard thing despite it being obvious it wasn't supposed to be for that
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>>220745637
i know you could argue this about Andor, but didn't they do the whole samurai showdown thing years earlier in Rebels? however the hell that ties in.

so in the real world, before the Maul show or even the Obi-Wan show, you know how this character dies. that works for the original trilogy where Darth Vader dies and then they go back and give us the prequel story 15 years later, but nowadays they're bouncing all over the place.

supposedly, a scene near the end of Andor about Mon Mothma preparing for a big speech was because she does that in Rebels? she and Saw Gerrera are ideological enemies in that or whatever, so they had to work that in.
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>>220746107
The Clone Wars did it once. Somehow Anakin forgot it happened to him by ESB.
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>>220746107
shit was weird in The Mandalorian.
maybe it becomes standard/symbolic at some point. but you know what else is also in Star Wars, right from the start?
>set weapons to stun!

stun the bounty, tie them up. or explain your spaceship has stasis fields or some other kind of brig/hold. i just assumed the Bespin carbonite chamber involved that whole room and all those little Ugnaught guys to operate.
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>>220745864
Devon will literally be "Evil Ahsoka", Filoni will never let a jedi alien girl be wasted on his watch.
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>>220746158
everyone in Star Wars has short-term memory loss.

Anakin and Padme visit the Lars farm, where C-3PO is working. they leave R2-D2 on the ship, but then he rolls out later for a nice happy reunion.

20 years later, Owen Lars is convinced to buy these two same droids and doesn't recognize them? Darth Vader meets them both multiple times and never says anything...?
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>>220746158
>Somehow Anakin forgot it happened to him by ESB.
No, dumbass. That's how he got the idea in the first place - because he'd done that before. The problem in ESB was that "THE FACILITY IS CRUDE", which is why they needed it tested on Solo first. They literally say it out loud in the movie. In Clone Wars they weren't frozen with an old, industrial crude equipment.
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>>220746297
20 years is an eternity. You only remember major shit from that long ago. Not meeting a toaster for one random day. If I went to buy a VCR, I wouldn't ever consider it being one I owned 20 years ago. And wouldn't really matter if it turned out it was either.
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>>220746297
there's nothing else to do there but get water out of the atmosphere and get drunk so he doesn't have the best memory
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>>220746365
No, imbecile, it's a kid's show so any random thing a person comes up with, if the fans liked it, then it will suddenly be a standard thing billions of people do all the time even though it was just a terrible idea pulled out of someone's ass to improvise. Same thing with shitty tatooine rags being le Jedi robes. You're watching media for babies.
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>>220744221
True like all women
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>>220746475
You are an illiterate subhuman retard, and you should kill yourself ASAP. You aren't even mentally capable to comprehend media for babies. Which is why all your critiques are retarded nigger bullshit. Many such cases with Star Wars "fans".
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>>220746374
It's funny you should say that, because last year I cleared out my deceased uncle's house, and when I saw his VCR and VHS collection, it instantly brought back memories, despite only going over there a couple times. For example, I remember he put on the mummy when I was a little kid and it scared me. So I'm pretty sure if I were some hick moisture farmer and my distant step-cousin from a metropolis planet, who was also a jedi knight, randomly showed up with 2 sentient droids, because his mother was abducted and being raped by sand people, I would remember them quite well.
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>>220744069
> tfw you've spent your whole life in a goon cave and see a female for the first time
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>>220746263
You know what? I'm cool with that. As much as I think that Ahsoka is outstaying her welcome a bit, having a new female Sith that keeps ruining everyone's day and not being tied by canon like Maul, sounds like a fun idea.
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>>220744172
The new cartoon is setting up this status, I don’t know why people are telling you it doesn’t. The last season ends with maul making a deal with Paul Bethany’s character to assasinate the leader of the crimson dawn. Next season will probably be about maul betraying him and becoming the big boss of the space cartel and maybe Clark’s character make her appearance or something
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>>220744510
Ah yes... the protocol droid that I personally created out of spare parts on Tatooine all those years ago.
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>>220746297
The fact that Darth Vader never once recognizes R2 or C-3PO and reacts to it drives me up the wall.
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>>220746263
>>220746624
the problem is, just like with Ahsoka, that she'll be an old 45+ year old hag by the time they roll her out in live-action and she'll probably look like shit like all the disney+ alien characters, and she'll act nothing like her beloved animated counterpart and will be a shadow of her former self, and don't expect good lightsaber duels too
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>>220744222
Your character isn't complete unless they are a survivor of o66 fought vader and lived joined the both rebel groups and inadvertently helped Luke in some way
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>>220746374
i see it more like your first car.

>hmm i suppose you're one of them 'protocol droids'

bitch you had one working on your farm. the same one. with the same companion.
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>>220746715
Do twi'lek's age in a similar way to humans?
It's not like Disney's Star Wars was always very consistent about the lifespans of various alien races (coughAcolytecough). If Filoni would want her to be young and hot in the post-sequel trilogy era, she will be young and hot and he'll always find a reason.
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>>220745740
george lucas himself retconned it

and she WILL get her own show
and she WILL appear in live-action
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>>220746641
>crimson dawn
pretty sure Black Sun is #2 behind the Hutt Cartels in regards to underworld power
isnt CD mainly in the core systems? if so, becoming its big boss isnt the flex people think it is
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>>220746827
>Do twi'lek's age in a similar way to humans?
yes
>>220746847
as if saying his name fucking means anything. he shat the prequels on us, actively ruined the OT for anyone under 38 who hadnt seen it, buttfucked indiana jones, etc etc
he is, was, and will always be an autistic hack who needs wrangling in by more competent people. he STILL carries a grudge over ESB and ROTJ being the more popular films - the ones where he had the smallest involvement
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>>220746666
Does he ever actually see them? I'm rewatching the OT at the minute, and I don't recall him seeing either of them in ESB. R2 is with Luke, and C3P0 gets blown up on Bespin before Vader appears. In ANH it's possible he glimpses them as they escape the hangar but he's busy fighting Obi-Wan.
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>>220746827
I hate this conehead motherfucker, imagine giving this character lines or actual screen time, what the fuck were they thinking
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>>220744724
He thought Korriban was too close to Coruscant for normies, so he suggested Moraband. They ended up doing a compromise of Korriban being a more ancient name for the planet.
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>>220747117
c-3po is talking when he's carbonating han
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>>220746666
The current cope is that Darth Vader does not give a fuck about his previous identity and considers him a seperate individual until Luke shows up.
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>>220747475
there are three different versions of the 'what is thy bidding, my master?' scene.

the Special Edition version doesn't make any sense. originally, the Emperor just says
>We have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker.
>The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.
and Darth Vader agrees. he knows who 'Luke Skywalker' is, he mentions him by name, the title crawl says he's looking for him.

but in the Special Edition, the Emperor says:
>We have a new enemy. The young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker.
and Vader replies
>How is that possible?

what the fuck. Vader, you already know. THIS ISN'T NEWS.

inb4 it's all a double-meta-mindgames twist because Vader is secretly trying to protect Luke. he's already after the guy, and the original scene ALREADY has 'Vader/Skywalker are separate' (or at least, the Emperor sees it that way).
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>>220747816
well yeah vader says in the empires strikes back that they can kill sheev and rule the galaxy together
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>>220744313
>Hard Contact
I assume this is a porn parody
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>>220744069
Bringing Maul back is the stupidest god damn thing ever, even stupider than Boba Fett. He gets CUT IN FUCKING HALF and falls down a miles-long shaft into god knows what. He's dead, he's fucking dead. The amount of unbelievably retarded asspulls the EU made to have him somehow survive is pathetic. Like on the level of playing with your action figures and throwing them off your roof and going
>But he took the super serum to regenerate! Kerpow! Blam!
or playing Harry Potter on the playground and some faggot throws up the invisible forcefield.

I get the cope from seeing a cool character go underutilized, but it's so stupid.
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>>220746666
checked and converted to satanism
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>>220747903
but then if the Emperor delivers this as if it's new information and Vader is playing dumb, how come Vader's going around saying to random Imperial officers
>the Rebel base is there, and Skywalker is with them.
and even Lando mentions he's after 'Skywalker'? not to mention the title crawl says he's been pursuing him.

the fuck does the Emperor think has been going on? revised version seems like a conversation they should have had before the events of the film tbdesu.
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>>220747117
Yes. He stands in the same room with C-3PO in Empire Strikes Back twice. Chewie is carrying him on his back at the banquet hall and in the carbon freezing chamber. He is not turned off and he talks quite a bit. He would be unmistakable to Vader.
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>>220748149
This just adds more flair to Vader's offer to Luke. It implies he wasn't just throwing around empty promises, he's been conspiring against the Emperor as soon as he found out Luke was alive, and already assembled trusted imperial officers who'd keep the 2nd objective of the Hoth mission a secret.
The scene itself is never expanded upon but it's fun to think that Vader himself gained some agency. Like finding out Luke was alive was his anchor to go "okay I have a reason to finally sack this old fart"
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>>220748381
>He would be unmistakable to Vader.
Why, they all look the same.
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>>220748448
>>220747816
And now that I think about it, the only thing that really changes here is just Vader's reaction.
The way Sidious speaks in both versions sounds like he's just breaking news. Why would he say "we have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker" if he was aware that Vader was searching for Luke on Hoth?
Vader was always one step ahead of him in this case
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>>220744313
Karen Traviss is infamously hated by the Halo community. But not so by the Star Wars community.
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>>220748708
Eric Nylund wrote Halo's backstory/lore (Halsey, Spartans, Reach) while Joe Staten wrote CE/H2.

Marty confirmed that after Halo 2 released, Joe Staten and Marcus Lehto had a fight, so Joe left Bungie to write Contact Harvest while a committee of writers wrote Halo 3 and Reach. Joe worked on prequels: Contact Harvest, Wars, ODST.

Reach was written by Marcus Lehto and Rob McLees using "Bungie Lore" (Noble Team is better than Chief because they take off their helmets to show that they are human, says that Reach had a more compelling story than CE-3). Lehto never cared about muh blue team because he wanted to create his own SPARTAN team.

Frankie wanted the forerunners to be a separate species from humans. He contracted Greg Bear to write the Forerunner trilogy of books made to explain this in as many ways as possible to avoid any confusion. Then the lead writer of halo 4 decided to hijack the project to tell a story about dementia, compressing the forerunner saga lore into a single exposition heavy cutscene.

Frankie hired different writers for everything.

>Greg Bear
Forerunner Saga

>Karen Travis
Kilo Five

>Chris Schlerf
Halo 4

>Brian Reed
Spartan Ops, Halo Escalation and Halo 5

343's Halo foundation was Kilo 5 trainwreck by Karen Traviss, the writer behind the Republic Commando novels and known for her obsession with Mandos being the bestest most honorable warrior culture in the galaxy who everyone look up to, and with the Jedi being evil baby kidnapping monsters. And then apparently she did the same thing with Halo and Gears of War novels

She almost sunk the Star Wars EU and she almost did the same to Halo.
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>>220748810
christ, what a mess
Fall of Reach was so fucking good too, wtf happened
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>>220748986
>Fall of Reach was so fucking good too, wtf happened

Frankie happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-uOCKDTAA
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Honestly every single thing is Lucas fault. Hes a fucking retarded and its obvious why he had to marry an ugly black chick.
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>>220748708
Traviss is only mostly as hated in Star Wars as in Halo.
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>>220744172
>does any of the maul cartoon shit they've made since then address any of this
For the last time Disney's OG plan was Solo to be a part of a trilogy of different but connected movies. It was going to be Solo -> Boba Fett -> Obi Wan. Three movies. The connections being Maul and that company she worked for. Obi Wan was going to end with a fight between him and Maul. Solo bombed so they cancelled this idea and the movies became terrible shows
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>it took them 8 years to make another feature length star wars film and somehow it's still garbage
It really takes some sort of talent to fuck things up this bad
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>>220749514
This was a Filoni movie too can't blame KK on this so the future is not bright
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>they are slowly realizing every last bit of star wars media is straight retarded
>still haven't quite connected the dots yet
i'll give it another ten years i guess and then check back.
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>>220744430
looking forward to weeks of anon melties when talon isnt dressed like a stripper
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>>220744069
Obi wan cut this nigga in half but somehow he gets brought back into every single fucking piece of media. Star wars is a fucking joke at this point
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>>220749653
I watched Mortal Kombat 2 and they just straight up revive every character that died in the 1st movie like whats the point
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>>220744268
I assumed he did it because Emilia Clarke was transparently lying about the fate of her prior boss, as a way to let her know that trying to murder him would be a lot more difficult, but it's been quite a while since I last saw the movie.
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>>220749558
This is a Jon Favreau movie, directed and written by him. Filoni was only a co-writer. The movie was brought to life by Iger and Kennedy in an attempt to bring Star Wars back to the theaters and not wanting to spend billions on streaming anymore.
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>>220745261
what
didn't filoni had DM be killed by Obi Wan in rebels? https://youtu.be/_ScD_OUvHR4?si=83eV4WyRBS71erkX
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>>220749748
i just hada fucking stroke and mistook boba for darth maul
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>>220749466
Maul was already killed off in Rebels before Solo came out.
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>>220744069
>find me on Darth-I'm-Here
Bravo Nolan.
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>>220749787
The movies ignore the cartoons autist
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>>220749838
Cool story, bro.
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>>220744069
Is the Darth Maul race born looking like devils or is just a convenience of the storytelling?
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>>220749898
It's the truth autist thus why Maul is even there in the first place
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>>220748635
>Why would he say "we have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker" if he was aware that Vader was searching for Luke on Hoth?
i do genuinely interpret that as like an ongoing status report. same way if he'd said
>it is imperative we destroy the Rebel base on the Hoth system.

it says in the title crawl and in the dialogue that Vader is looking for Luke. he's not keeping that a secret. i think we can assume the Emperor knows. in the original version, Vader is legitimately giving him the idea that Luke could be turned (THAT'S his secret agenda: save his son and overthrow the Emperor).
in the new version, the Emperor is actually telling Vader who 'the Rebel pilot' is, when he knows...? nobody else is in the room guys, relax, you've both known his name for some time now.

in both versions, he's talking to Vader as if he's no longer 'Skywalker' himself, a separate person, that's fine. plus it keeps the twist for us as viewers (compared to if he said 'your son' there and then).
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>>220749933
Maul is there because Solo is set chronologically almost a decade before his death in Rebels, so it made sense to bring him in. You are retarded. Not even Andor ignored cartoons.
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>>220749924
The prequels were never good, exhibit 3958583
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>>220750003
What part of the cartoons referenced his time in the movie retard? Andor was made after when they changed trajectory retard
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>>220749748
>>220749768
at least Maul has a definitive death. they're back to the old EU territory with Boba, presumably he can never die. no author will want to be the one who kills him.

Luke was dead and a Force ghost by the time of the Star Wars: Legacy comics since they were set a century later, but they never explained how he died. i'll give the sequel trilogy minor props there.

that Inquisitor guy in the Obi-Wan series HAD to survive because he was later in Rebels, or something...? even though he looked different and the guy did a different voice. why the fuck not just make him a different character, then...?
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>>220744172
I could wave off Maul still being alive and starting his own crime syndicate, but him becoming Mandalore/ruler of the Mandalorians was so insanely retarded. What was the reason? Like what were they going for with that plot point?
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>>220749748
zomgzorz he switches from Lightsaber Style #3 to Lightsaber Style #5 to match Qui-Gon in The Phantom Menace i squee'd!!!!1
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>What part of the cartoons referenced his time in the movie retard?
His very resurrected existence with mechanical legs and his occupation being a crime lord is because he was brought back in the cartoon in the first place. And he has Inquisitor lightsaber. From a cartoon. His hideout being Dathomir, which was set up in Rebels, and that's where he tells Emilia Clarke's character to come. Him being voiced by Sam Witwer and not the guy from Phantom Menace. You are so fucking retarded. Shut the fuck up. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>220750177
>nothing
just what I thought retard
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>>220750124
He needed muscle to build his power base. Mandalorians happened to pick him up and they had mutual goals, and then the plot spiraled from there. It's explained in the show. You can just watch it instead of asking questions.
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I have mixed feelings about Maul still being alive. His entire arc after phantom menace is so retarded. But him dying in Obi-Wans arms asking if he is protecting the chosen one and that "he will avenge us" is so insanely kino. Goes to show what an evil asshole Palpatine was and how he fucked over everyone
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>>220750284
he tried to roadkill anakin
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>>220750284
>characters look like wooden mannequins
>Obi-Wan's toupee is made of plastic

i know what they were going for, but it looks so horrendous. same with Maul's exaggerated body movements and cocky DreamWorks facial expressions.

(i'm all for cartoony in the sense of squash-and-stretch, this isn't that.)



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