‘I had to do Troy because – I guess I can say all this now – I pulled out of another movie and then had to do something for the studio,’ he revealed. ‘So I was put in Troy.‘It wasn’t painful, but I realised that the way the movie was being told was not how I wanted it to be. I made my own mistakes in it.’The 55-year-old stated that the plot ‘drove him crazy’, and from then on he was only going to be involved in ‘quality stories’.He continued to The New York Times: ‘Every shot was like, here’s the hero! There was no mystery. So about that time I made a decision that I was only going to invest in quality stories, for lack of a better term.‘It was a distinct shift that led to the next decade of films.’And despite the success of his 1995 movie 12 Monkeys, in which he was nominated for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, Brad has admitted to regretting his performance in the second half of the film.‘I nailed the first half of 12 Monkeys,’ he stated. ‘I got the second half all wrong. That performance bothered me because there was a trap in the writing. It’s not the writing’s fault, but it was something that I couldn’t figure out.
>>220751591nothing he said is wrong.
>>220751591He seems to be having fun while doing his macho schtick. In the end of the day the film is a classic and he got paid well
what kind of mystery was he hoping for in troy
Troy is shit, it's Hollywood capeslop just putatively set in ancient Greece
>>220751591>That performance bothered me because there was a trap in the writing. It’s not the writing’s fault, but it was something that I couldn’t figure out.What the fuck is he saying
>>220751591>Illiad>not a "quality story"
Here is the full thing:Looking at the arc of your career, it seems as if a real shift happened somewhere around 2004. You started working more exclusively with higher-caliber directors. And maybe as a result, your acting had this new depth to it. I can see a line from then to now. Sorry, I realize that’s an observation and not a question. But you’re absolutely right. I’m happy someone could read that. It was really a turn on “Troy.” I was disappointed in it. When you’re trying to figure things out in your career, you get a lot of advice. People are telling you that you should be doing this, and other people are saying you should be doing that. There was this defining film I never got to do, a Coen brothers film called “To the White Sea.” We had an opportunity to go, and then it was shut down. Then another interesting opportunity arose, and instead I was talked into: “No, you need to be doing this other thing. You can get to your art project later.” I ended up taking that advice.
>>220751742It means hes coked out when he was reading the script
>>220751591I like that it's the performances that bother him. Not the fact this his children hate him
>>220751757And you made “Troy”? No, it wasn’t “Troy,” it was another thing. But that really made me think, I’m following my gut from here on out. I had to do “Troy” because — I guess I can say all this now — I pulled out of another movie and then had to do something for the studio. So I was put in “Troy.” It wasn’t painful, but I realized that the way that movie was being told was not how I wanted it to be. I made my own mistakes in it. What am I trying to say about “Troy”? I could not get out of the middle of the frame. It was driving me crazy. I’d become spoiled working with David Fincher. It’s no slight on Wolfgang Petersen. “Das Boot” is one of the all-time great films. But somewhere in it, “Troy” became a commercial kind of thing. Every shot was like, Here’s the hero! There was no mystery. So about that time I made a decision that I was only going to invest in quality stories, for lack of a better term. It was a distinct shift that led to the next decade of films.
>>220751777Those 15 years include films like “12 Monkeys.” You got an Oscar nomination for that one. I nailed the first half of “12 Monkeys.” I got the second half all wrong. That performance bothered me because there was a trap in the writing. It’s not the writing’s fault, but it was something that I couldn’t figure out. I knew in the second half of the film I was playing the gimmick of what was real in the first half — until the last scene — and it bugged the [expletive] out of me.
>>220751591What did he do differently in the second half of 12 Monkeys? He was the same autistic retard
>>220751771His children were out of line, what was one doing that could be interpreted as a shooter?
>>220751591This is code for he got bucked, fucked and sucked by jewish producers. They made him look incredibly gay as possible in every shot. You were all tricked into watching a blonde male stripper kill white men on screen.
His body was phenomenal in Troy. He no doubt bred the most prime ladies around then. Plus he got to "simulate" a sex scene with Rose.
>>220752006Meh he looks like a twink. Im a woman and I wouldnt date her
>>220751813>>220751742He explains it at >>220751812:>I knew in the second half of the film I was playing the gimmick of what was real in the first half — until the last scene — and it bugged the [expletive] out of me.>220752025>220751930Careful not to fall for these!
>>220751591>Brad, please sign my Troy poster
>>220751591He impressed people by being unrecognizably crazy + hyper, but it's nonsense when the original's essence is lost. Gilliam was flailing.
>>220751743troy has a shit story and until nolan's trainwreck it was considered a mid popcorn
>>220751591He had a cool way of talking when he was a youngin
>>220751591>only going to be involved in 'quality stories'>Oceans ThirteenBig brain time.
>>220751591what is he guarding against
>>220751591>ah Homer, not really a quality story teller. Now, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, that's a quality story.
>>220751771leaving out a lot of nuance with that one, chief imagine defending the mentally ill parenting style of a woman who by her own admission was abused and neglected by her father and the fact people who get abused as children end up abusing their children
>>220752189You just cant understand the nuance of that movie. You probably have low media literacy
>>220752060
>>220752211Her father was not present when she was growing up. That's not abuse.
>>220751812wtf does it mean? i do get that his nutjob first half was really memorable but idk what happened when he return to his dad etc. it feels odd
>>220751771 the thirdies his ex-wife bought at the bazaar aren't his kids
>>220752222That picture is shooped.
>>220752306Three of those kids are his and they hate him as well.
>>220751591He's the most bland actor alive. All his performances are just *ok*.
>>220751690>the film is a classiconly chuds believe this
>>220751743Don’t be disingenuous. Troy is not The Iliad and it’s weaker for the deviations
>>220751591Troy is an awesome movie, but he really pulled an Anakin Skywalker with his performance in it and it didn't fit or make a whole lot of sense.
>>220752189Ah yes, Homer, famously the screenwriter of Troy
>>220752366Impossible, they had quads
>>220752756>it didn't fit or make a whole lot of sense.because he was a 40 yo dude forced to play the role of a 20 year old twink
>>220752756Achilles was not supposed to be a complicated character. He was supposed to be a moody faggot who knows he's better than eveyone else.
troy is leagues above anything he's done in the past decade
>>220752698Yes niggers and trannies dont consider this classic
>>220751591Based Brad calling out that talentless jew fuck David "Benioff".
>>220752189kekI wonder what his genuine thoughts of that piece of shit are. It ultimately had catastrophic ramifications on his personal life, there's no way he doesn't hate it, right?
>>220752844Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is better and he looks like he actually wants to be there
He's talking shit because at the time of release Troy was perceived as being off the mark, not accurate and he was criticized for being a poor fit for Achilles.This was all over the media of the time. During that time historical epics like Gladiator, Braveheart, Patriot, Kingdom of Heaven were primarily criticized as to how "accurate" they are, which is something any shit critic could scoff at and come off as a snobby intellectual. It's easy talking points for a review.Troy came out at the ass end of that whole historical blockbuster genre (I think only KoH came after, and was also widely criticized), so people were not into it anymore.That's why Brad Pitt is talking shit about it, not because he "didn't get" the story or his character or "it wasn't right" or whatever. He'd be all hugs and kisses about it if it was a megahit, but it wasn't so he's bitter about it like a scorned woman.
any oldfags remember the blind items of Pitt killing a woman he was fucking during the making of Troy? Used to be talked about all the time on here.
>>220753146Jesus how old are you? Just fucking die already
>>220752025Ywnbaw
>>220752839Imho he nailed it.
Brad Pitt after 2004>F1: The Movie>World War Z>Fury>Ocean's Thirteen>Mr. & Mrs. SmithYeah real quality stories right there you fucking retard
>>220753301Tbf troy is a white(incel) male fantasy of going to war so its objectively inferior
>>220753301F1 and Fury are both kino. World War Z is also ok, not great.
>>220751777>Here’s the hero! There was no mysterydude it's the fucking Illiad
>>220753366War movies are gay and youre gay for liking it
>>220753366Fury is an extremely overrated piece of shit video game cutscene smeared over two hours
Hollywood sucks but I can't really blame Pitt. I used to not like him but he actually seems to try unlike anyone else in his industry.
>>220753421He is the male equivalent of a dumb blonde.
>>220752997>During that time historical epics like Gladiator, Braveheart, Patriot, Kingdom of Heaven were primarily criticized as to [sic] how "accurate" they areNot sure about "primarily" in every case, but OK, maybe.>which is something any shit critic could scoff atAh, you're of the Ridley Scott school when it comes to historical accuracy, I guess. Well, I'd take Waterloo over the retarded slop that was Napoleon any day of the week.>Troy came out at the ass end of that whole historical blockbuster genre (I think only KoH came after, and was also widely criticized), so people were not into it anymoreNo, it did fairly well, I think; it was just kind of meh, IMO mainly due to Benioff's shitty script (he's always been shit) and overuse of not-very-good CGI. And you make it sound like those films were all released in close succession - Braveheart was nine years earlier. Even Gladiator came out four years prior.>That's why Brad Pitt is talking shit about itMaybe. Or maybe because he (correctly) thinks it was shit. As did Peter O'Toole.>He'd be all hugs and kisses about it if it was a megahitAgain, it did reasonably well - if I had to guess, largely because Orlando Bloom was in it, fresh off LotR.
>>220753442at least he knows it
>>220751591His only good movies are Fight Club and Snatch.
I've always thought brad pitt's performance was insanely corny in 12 monkeys desu
>>220753555He doesnt
>>220751591>noooo the huge summer blockbuster with the biggest movie star in the world isn't subtle enough, i don't like it
>>220753408>>220753410Embarrasing and cringe
>>220751591that doesn't say he hates 12 Monkeys
>>220751591>Every shot was like, here’s the hero! There was no mystery.Then they did it correctly because thats exactly the fucking story.
>>220751591I actually hate hearing the thoughts of actors on their roles but especially if its negative Just fucking act, monkey.
>>220753623I can understand it, he got nuancemogged hard by Eric Bana's Hector.
>>220753623Lack of subtlety isn't the problem. If anything you could argue they were trying to be too "subtle"/"realistic" by removing the gods entirely - instead of having them constantly bickering, narrating the action etc. No, it's more that it all kind of dissolves into a bland CGI soup. Besides "That's why no one will remember your name", there are (ironically) no memorable lines - a colossal waste of the assembled acting talent. (The one other meme it belatedly spawned was of Brian Cox pointing.) And it's not fun or particularly gripping, à la Gladiator or Braveheart.
>>220751591Writing complaints seem to be a common thing for that one. Here's Peter O'Toole shitting on Troy:>“Ugh, what a disaster. The director, that kraut, what a clown he was”.>“When it was all over, I watched 15 minutes of the finished movie and then walked out…At least I had one good scene”.
>>220753301Conveniently overlooking The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, The Big Short, Moneyball, Tree of Life, 12 Years a Slave, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Babel, etc
>>220754067Orlando Bloom has also made it very clear he didn’t want to be in it
>>220751591Absolutely mind blowing that he would turn on his 12 Monkeys performance. It's almost flawless.
>>220754067>that krautis this not a very racist/offensive thing to say? wtf?
>>220752811he looked fine in it though. i thought it was a rather good performance. he didn't seem out of place at all to me.
>>220754068all of that is pure slop, though.
>>220752122it is a pretty shit adaptation but the costuming, choreography, and performance all come through despite it
To me, this is still his best movie.
>>220752122>it was considered a mid popcornstill is. People simply prefer popcorn to diarrhea
>>220754503>low RT scoreLol
>>220751591>‘Every shot was like, here’s the hero! There was no mystery.Is he retarded?
>>220754598i think hes being too hard on it but you have to look at the other examples he gave. he means achilles is played very straight forward while his other performances had another angle of consideration beyond what was directly on screen
>>220754315He was 72 with 7 Oscar nominations behind his belt. He was able to afford not to give a fuck. Now if he said the n-word or something derogatory about a female castmate...>>220754503His Legends of the Fall performance is also underrated.
>>220751742>Traps are gay>-Brad Pitt
>>220754707>His Legends of the Fall performance is also underrated.True. One of the most realistic male cryings I have ever seen.
>>220754503>meet joe BLACKED
has this dipshit even put any effort into any role in 20 years? he's harrison ford at this point.
Do people not remember when Troy came out it was considered to be a dumb shlock following the sword and sandal trend after Gladiator came out
>>220751591This is a 62 year old man.
>>220751742The trap is he didn't play the character like he was innocent. It's supposed to be an "aha!" moment for the audience to realize Pitt's character was harmless and the clues were there all along.
>>220754315Kraut also isn't very high on the list of being offensive. It's an epithet about Germans being sauerkraut eaters. Food related slurs ain't shit. It's on the level of calling American's burgers.
He probably wanted Achilles to be portrayed as some looming inevitable force of fate just on the edge of the screen and not front and center in a superhero/supervillain kind of role.
Maybe he did read the Iliad and thought it was a bad adaptation.
>>220752578They don't want you to know this but the kids at LEGO land are free and you can take them home, I have 15 kids.
>>220751743He was saying the script for Troy was ass, not The Iliad itself, which is correct. It also downplayed how complex Achilles' character was in the story and how much his downfall mirrored a war veteran who saw his closest friend (Patroclus) dead from his actions and the anger that led him to perform an act of savageness against Hector and Troy.
>>220751700It's a horrible adaptation of the source material
>>220754068Only one of those is good, and it was by Tarantino of all people. The rest of that is actual garbage.
>>220755104Or Indians poos.
>>220755229>closest friendWhat is patroclus to achilles in the original text? Nephew, boyfriend?
>>220754315Peter O’Toole was a drunken hellraiser for decades, he didn’t give a fuck
>>220755216Thanks for the tip, black anon.
>>220754909Harrison Ford has done some of his best work in recent years
>>220754909He’s great as Jesse James
>>220755269Nephew he buttfucked
>>220751591Don't care Nolan, still not watch your troon nigger shit
>>220752222>rapist jew glaring from the sidelol, eerie
>>220755269>What is patroclus to achilles in the original text? Nephew, boyfriend?Essentially a childhood friend. He was exiled from his family home and sent to live in the house of Achilles' father and squired for him until his death.
>>220754749Men should never cry. Faggot gay shit
>>220755569But you’ve cried before
>>220751771>his childrenkek
>>220752222lmao and that's the one with harvey too
>>220751591is it true he fucked Ella Purnell?
>>220755613Never
>>220751700pic looks like he is baiting anons and waiting for the fish to inevitably bite
>>220751591Everything he said is right. Based Brad
>>220755744WHO HASNT
>>220751700>>220751699>>220751591Makes sense. Achilles is a whiney fucking bitch in the Iliad and Hektor is obviously supposed to be the good guy. He probably doesn't like that they didn't portray Achilles as more of a whiney bitch.the expression>Achilles sulking in his tentexists
>>220756206>brown person>good guyLol
>>220751743ah yes, the illiad by david benioff
>>220756508good point, hektor was brown and therefore aneaus, rome, ceaser and agustus were brown
>>220756577Yup
>>220751743Troy is not a 1 to 1 retelling of the Iliad and that's what Brad is seething about
He was unironically best in Troy and 12 Monkies, wtf?
Hes a fruitcake with adopted mutt children.
>>220756724Sorry for your insecurity bro
>>220756729Hello?You are brown?
>>220754068all of these are shit but I enjoyed moneyball
>>220757088>>220754447contrarianism final boss
$100 says Pitt is posting in this thread
>>220755058Its crazy to me that hes 62. Wonder how he feels knowing he doesnt have that long to live, despite having god tier genetics.
>>220751666Trips of truth.
>>220751591I love 12 Monkeys and think his performance in it is great. I don't understand waht he means about the second half.
>>220754094>Orlando Bloomdoes anybody really like this guy?one of the worst actors of all timeevery role, he puts on that same "I'M ACTING" face
>>220757153I hope he is. In case you're right, hey Brad! Fucking loser! I bet you can't stand being a famous Hollywood star who played in countless iconic roles, who is considered the standard of what it means to be an attractive man, who fucked countless beautiful women throughout his life, and whom most of the world has forgiven for beating his little adopted third world children on his private plane! Your life just sounds awful! Not like mine. Mine is great, yours sucks. Hope you change your life, faggot.
>>220751700I rewatched it this weekend, it was mediocre as I remember it, but at least the costumes were evoking the archaic period and not the classic greek (except for Achille's and the mymidons, for some reason).A solid 4/10
>>220751700sounds fine by meyour mind is poisonedit was actual hollywood stillit was a modern hollywood take on the iliadlosely based and inspire by itit was chic it had the cool charm of the 2000sagain when it was still hollywood
it's irrelevant whatever he says about it
>>220756552Kek
>>220756206Achilles is arrogant as fuck in Troy. He's not all that likeable of a character. Hector (and the Trojans in general) is portrayed much more positively. Did Bradu Pittu even watch the movie?
>>220755087Sounds like it was up to Gilliam
>>220756552Indeed. A classic tale adapted by a jew is like wine infused with hot camel's piss. And idiot goys are like, ah, yes, the Château Margaux whenever-the-fuck.(Pitt's criticism may itself be dumb and inarticulate, but he's at least correct in identifying the script as the key problem.)
>>220755087Yeah, that has to be what he means. The dude is really inarticulate. And in this case, worrying over nothing. I rewatched the film a couple of weeks ago and didn't notice any inconsistency.
>>220752222In tears at this image. A shame it's (probably) fake. I once attended a horror convention and I observed a guy approach Barbara Crampton asking her to sign a nude picture of her. It wasn't a tasteful pic either, rather it was a collage of all her naked film scenes. You could see the revulsion in her face when he handed it over. The guy had zero self-awareness. I had to stifle my laugh because I was so close to the interaction.
>>220759957It was you wasn't it?
>>220751591>‘I nailed the first half of 12 Monkeys,’ he stated. ‘I got the second half all wrong. That performance bothered me because there was a trap in the writing. It’s not the writing’s fault, but it was something that I couldn’t figure out.If you're going to be this vague why bother opening your mouth you wife beating retard?
>>220756614That is absolutely not what Brad is seething about. He's just being a faggot.
>>220751591Troy is pretty mediocre But the fight between Achilles and Hector is best dual ever
>>220760088That might be part of what he's seething about for all we know, and he's not being a faggot. At worst he's being inarticulate and right for the wrong reasons. The film was forgettable bland slop, and the script was the No 1 reason for that. Greater fidelity to Homer might have helped in that regard (and Terry Gilliam was right to view the removal of the gods as a bizarre choice), but theoretically you could have made an equally loose adaptation that was entertaining and memorable.
>>220751591its obvious. he hates troy because that was his peak and he cant look at his own perfection without a heart ache.understandable. human. arrogant and full of shit, like everyone in hollywood.the 12 monkeys part would interest me but I got a feeling he would say some pretentious bs instead of some profound insight about the movie but who knows, maybe he figured he made a young inexperienced mistake at the expense of quality. movies are not rocket science. they are actually very simple.
He can't act
>>220751837>>220751930>posting bait and then replying to yourself because nobody took it
>>220760939155 replies. Page 1. You lost, chuddie.
>>220760939You lost.
>>220751591>When asked about when acting is still exciting for him, Pitt responds “I would say more in comedic stuff, where you’re taking gambles. I can turn out the hits over and over and I just—my favorite movie is the worst-performing film of anything I’ve done, ‘The Assassination of Jesse James.’ It’s the only film I’ve done that I can sit and watch. If I believe something is worthy, then I know it will be worthy in time to come.”
>>220751591another actor being edgy and saying they didn't like their work and didn't watch it. oh so unique and edgy, so cool. wow, they did something and didn't even watch it, I mean wow
>>22075159112 Monkeys is a shitty time travel movie trying desperately to be something more than it was.
>>220751777Checked but playing "Achilles'...yes you are the mother fucking hero of this film and of legend. What did you expect, to be washing urns in a market somewhere? People didnt turn up to this picture to see you fixing chariots or making statues you DOLT!
>>220761332Millionaire actor forced by his contract to star in the movie please understand
>>220752997troy really was temu gladiator but gladiator 2 is africsn helicopter gladiator
>>220754315People weren't completely tumblised back then, zoomie.
>>220751591All seemingly legit self critique.
>ITT Millennial manchildren find out that slop from their childhood is in fact considered slop.Lmao, Troy is a generic Hollywood blockbuster. The Odyssey will mog.
The movie was out of place compared to his others. He looks iconic and beefed up to the max, but the movie is popcorn/action, and chasing Gladiator. Its a B+ movie and his others before this are mostly A grade. Its the Independence Day of ancient mythological epics. And his career didn’t need it. Every other person who worked on the movie was riding on him to get box office dollars.
>>220761679Really I think what sold the movie entirely is him with his shirt off, a sword, and sandals. I don’t think its a bad movie, but it doesn’t have replay value. People are going to pull it up constantly in memory of his career only because he looked good in it.
>>220761741This is very true of Angelina Jolie too. They will pull up the Tomb Raider movies, which are adequate for fans, but its mostly her looking good.
>>220754503Watching this felt like watching the longest movie I've ever seen. Brad Pitt is complete shit in it and it's a 3 hour movie with barely enough material to cover a movie half that length. If he's embarrassed by any of his performances it should be this one.
>>220751591he then went on to be benjamin button in one of the worst movies ever made on planet earth. troy is much better.
>>220751591Brad Pitts performance is the best part of 12 Monkeys. The part where he is monologing about the world in a tux in a manic delusion is my favorite scene.
>>220761793Troy is for manchildren.
>>220761822wrong. going to bat for benjamin button is insane though so i'll just block you using 4chan plus, you clearly have a mental disability.
>>220761843>so i'll just block you using 4chan plus,Lmao. You belong on reddit.
>>220761679>Its the Independence Day of ancient mythological epics.Thats honestly a pretty high mark. Basically calling it the best of casual pleb fair side of a genre.
>>220754503This movie sucks. Shut it off 1hr in becsuse NOTHING was happening and all of pitts lines are YesNoYes
>>220751591actors are lower than common whoresexhibit nr. 9403893
>>220761977Because he called a piece of slop...slop? Maybe you're just a dimwit who needs to grow up.
>>220761679its a movie that is extremely popular with men. how is out of place or lowly compared to his other movies? the last movies I seen him in were some lame shinkanzen action flick and that tarrantino flop about in which he bored me to death with pretentious hollywood history.nobody cares but other jews becuase 'look, muh nepotistic art history'f off. brad pitt too. Tory had subpar writing and 10/10 choreograohy and cinematography. yeah it reduced a myth to a popcorn flick but not every movie has to be deep, when its entertaining and respectful then thats enough.brad and every other whores for jew dick, money and fame like to pretend acting is something more than just narcissistic shitty people delusional and lack shame enough to pull off tricks in front of a camera. they are whores and deserve no respect, but yaknow hollywood jews control the narrative and they want you to worship these drug addicted pretenders.brad or anyone on hollyjew pretending tory is not a msterpiece deserving respect (and brad should respect it more than others) compared to any slop they produced the past 15 years is intellectually dishonest, a liar and a fucking distruptor with ill intent.
>>220751591Brad’s finest acting is convincing the world he’s this wholesome, laid back dude
>>220762211Which one wrote this
>>220751591>Brad Pitt hated Troy>Achilles hated TroyI think hes just method acting
>>220762165>fucking Troy is extremely popular with anyoneIt's just a dumb action flick of the month. If you rewatch Troy more than once a decade you're literally stupid.
Baits are getting boring yawn
>>220751591>An actor born and captured in his prime for peak portrayer of Achilles >Will never be topped>The actor hates this This some fucking i don't know, actor larp where they pretend they are above being captured at the top
>>220752282Jeffrey's last scene is when he says he's not insane
>>220762698then I am stupid because I watch it like once every 5 years. the extended is kino. the theatrical has certified epic music during certain scenes while the based extended replaced it with generic crap.Troy is awesome and every bitch leaves a wet chair after herself watching peak muscledaddy braddu pittuYes its an action flick not a greek epic. Troy. odyssey. illiad. all have the same problem of needing lot more than 90 minutes of runtime. Troy kept it action oriented. As an enjoyer of ancient greek literature and big stan of them I see no issues with Troy. If anything it made one thing excellently: It portrayed Achilles more than man. Big complains about Troy is keeping the Gods and mysticism out of it. Its lingering there and its a story grounded in reality, not in epic tales of forgotten times with gods and mystical creatures, same as today, but 3000 years earlier. In this world nobody has undeniable proof of the greater forces, same as ours, but then there is Braddu Pittu. Perfect portrayal of a demigod. He is obviously no ordinary man, their tales and stories of Gods must be true. Achilles is proof for the existence of Gods. Machismo movies, masculine, males are in the focus, creators, civilization builders, and flawed. Troy is an awesome movie and fuck you. (Hey Israel Im totally gay I love penis I am living a totally ordinary gay pedestrian life. That is all)
>>22075159112 Monkeys sucked, Troy was great.
>>220762902>>220762973>>220763012It's really telling how much of a garbage taste that the average fa/tv/irgin has. Something to remember when the manchildren hate on acclaimed flick.
>>220753966You sack of wine!
>>220762973nooo anon you can't like dumb fun movies you are supposed to only watch high brow stuff like Tarantino's works!
>>220763081 here I've recently transitioned by the way.
>>220757093This is /tv/, we hate movies here.
>>220763081Achilles is turbo kino you rage baiter faggot
>>220761843Hey kids, remember to buy your 4chan plus now! Blocking all those annoying anons you hate has never been easier!
>>220752060Me on the left
>>220762234One of the nips
>>220763081I am sorry.... casting peak Brad Pitt as mother fucking Achilles is literally once in a Century casting. Like you go back 1000 years through the art of acting and such perfect casting probably only happened a dozen times.
>>220751591>12 Monkeyshttps://youtu.be/nwKhRF6Crnc?si=XcquswwdFRDmOBi5
>>220752844I think he just hates the fact that he didn't have the sole spotlight in Troy. The story isn't about him, in fact, they gave him way too much screen time.
>>220763310That movie was all about viruses being a danger.And here's the real kicker.
>>220751591>he hates two of his best performances and movieswhy are all actors such fags
>>220763375https://rumble.com/vrknwv-demon-spills-the-beans..html
>>220763392Revelation 9:6 KJVAnd in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
>>220751700I remember the complaints that they got rid of the gods in the story
>>220761514>generic hollywood blockbuster will mog generic hollywood blockbusteryou might be right, but it's a low bar to clear.
What's the reason for the sudden influx of people jerking off Troy?Enjoyable movie at the time but it isn't kino, just cinema
>>220764700I presume it's the:>If only you knew how good things really were.
>>220764700name 5 kinos and 5 cinemas RIGHT.FUCKING.NOW.
>>220751771Imagine being one of his "children". Rescued from some third world shit hole by multi millionaires and you're still bitter.
>>220751591>Brad Pitt hates 12 MonkeysThen why did he adopt them?
>>220764861I think Jolie had already purchased the Cambodian one before they started dating.
>>220751591>I pulled out of another movie and then had to do something for the studiois he talking about the first, big budget version of THE FOUNTAIN?
>>220764700My standards have been immensely lowered by the movies that Hollywood crapped out in the intervening decades
>>220751591>hates 12 monkeys Sounds like he hates his performance in it
>>220751591>the way the movie was being told was not how I wanted it to bewell, yeah. he's an actor. he has 0 input on how to direct the film unless he either has a great idea that can be pulled off or is sucking the producer's cock.
>>220755176Nice try Brad. But that's retarded approach for the mightiest hero of all time. If any that would fit to Paris. Which was bad in this movie too.
>>220752189giwtwm
>>220751591Troy sucks ass.12 Monkeys is amazing though.
>>220753146a celeb or some rando?
>>220751777Always forget Troy was Wolfgang Petersen. Hollywood hates Das Boot, possibly the greatest kino ever made and The Neverending Story. Difficult to buy that Petersen's Troy sucked because of him but perhaps he faced the same dilemma as Pitt? Then again Petersen made Air Force One iirc, low frequency telegraphed Zio slop. The Coen brothers and Pitt are a bad match, he doesn't fit their goy caricature lens like Clooney, whose ego conditions him for it. Only Tarantino and Fincher now how to ideally shoot and write for Pitt, excluding Benjamin Button slop but including Scott's True Ronance, it's a shame he didn't work with them more and vice versa, if Weinstein hadn't fellated Tarantino into making IB a Zio fantasy, it would have been a top 10 white war kino as planned. It's why Tarantino couldn't shake Booth and had to write the prequelish book adaptation. Pitt's career is a sad case of America not being allowed to reach its potential after the 90s because Israel had "greater" plans.
>>220751837Not wrong. That movie was a He-Man cologne ad influenced by the Abercrombie gayified Nazi "inspired" ad campaigns of Leslie Wexner. Angelina Jolie was his Erika Kirk.
>>220751591>and from then on he was only going to be involved in ‘quality stories’.>*proceeds to play in Fury*
>>220752060/tv/ and /pol/ in bg kek
>>220758768should have watched the director's cut, much better movie
>>220752811>>220752756https://youtube.com/watch?v=RXScsqcdMOA
>>220752997don't forget alexander lol, or 300. only braveheart was good. mellow mel's follow up to apocalypto was viking epic berserkers but the nose said no
>>220757153>>220758742I swear to god john landis's kid was posting in a thread shitting about john landis's kid back during covid. I have no proof it was really john landis's kid but the guy typed like a faggot and who would larp as john landis's kid?
>>220753146yeah, damn. similar to tom cruise killing a pilot on american made. dark
>>220754068Killing Them Softly is gay
>>220755176t. Todd MacFarlane
>>220766387The Once upon a time book fucking sucked
>>220751591Brad Pitt is a retard and himbo, but great actor who really understands the craft
>I HATE YOU DAD
>>220766491they sound awful live
>>220766387He was hilarious in Burn After Reading though
>>220758449He was only popular because women were attracted to him
>>220762902Most actors have terrible taste in movies. This isn't surprising at all.
>>220751591>Every shot was like, here’s the hero! There was no mystery.no way, really?
>>220768199Robert Plant had just survived a near fatal car crash and the drummer OD shortly after. It's a profound performance clown that mirrors the song's theme of mortality versus mythology
>>220751591Pitt really is just a pretty faced retard aura farming savant.
>>220751591>>220762902He's right. 2000s hollywood had lost the old mastery over storytelling and character. The more literal an adaptation is, the more confined it becomes to the well-known original, the more predictable and boring it becomes cinematically. Having no gods was an attempt to mitigate that and become a modern film, but the difference between Troy and what they should've done is the difference between Space Jam and a movie about Jordan winning six titles. Achilles is a great character but his story doesn't work if its just rote repetition of a plot everyone knows. It needed to be scripted and shot to show a different side of the Illiad for story reasons, not to be subversive.
>>220764700Its the only movie that comes to a plebs mind when thinking about movies about greek mythology
>>220751771Can’t really blame Pitt for disavowing his family. They’re all fucked. The Pax boy is clearly a faggot, and the other kids are Trans or some other degenerate shit. Angela did it all. What a cunt.
>>220752060>discount thom yorke on the left
>>220769795Looks like as if Fantano and Musk had a kid.
>>220752037What was wrong with the last scene?
>>220751690It's overrated as shit
>>220755087But then playing him consistently would be the right thing to do. Why would you change the acting in the second half if the character doesnt change?
The real fault of Troy was the problem of Benioff's writing and Petersen's (traditional) kraut interpretation of the Mycenaeans as le bad. Visually and in most other respects the film is great as a spectacle and Brad's view on how it was shot is horseshit.It's totally ok that Achilles is viewed as a hero. It's ok the visual emphasis is put on him. He is objectively a hero. So is Hector. So is Ajax (both) and dozens others, even Priam and Nestor and all the olds. People who think this film should depict one side or the other as good or bad have a biased view of Homer and there's no point in making such a film in English that includes your ethnic spergery, whatever type it is, however far removed or not.
>>220771074>and there's no point in making such a film in Englishyou have to make the film in english. what third world language would you make it in instead? first worlders don't read subtitles
>>220770873That's the "trap" of the character. How do you give a single performance that makes sense before and after the twist and feels authentic to the audience that it could be both. That's a pretty complex and subtle thing that Pitt is mad he couldn't figure out how to do.
>>220771074The problem is not Achilles being a hero, but the plodding self-aware way it moves along, like a series of dioramas showing the legendary hero Achilles perform some heroic act. He doesn't get to be a real character and his book arc is truncated for being too gay. The whole thing is a simplified version of scenes from the Illiad that attempts to reproduce them semi-faithfully, it doesn't come across as an independent story. The line about remembering your name is nowhere near as bad as some I've heard like in Excalibur, but it's still self-aware and freezes everything in mythic time, the story never feels alive.
>>220753301>>F1: The MovieSurprisingly kino. Also the kind of straightforward feel-good movie that he avoided doing for the 20 years previous to it>>World War ZIn his defence, the book is apparently really good. He didn't write the script>>FuryKino>>Ocean's ThirteenI imagine he was under contract for that.>>Mr. & Mrs. Smith...It was fun? An actor needs to pay their bills?
>>220771279Oh that makes sense
>>220771532>the book is apparently really goodso youve never read it? because its not.
>>220771625>so youve never read it?No, of course not. I don't care about zombies unless they're in a film or tv show. And even then, I probably don't care.>because its not.Ehh. I've seen a lot of people praise it and get mad at the film for wasting its potential. Maybe it's not good. But enough people rate it for me to not judge Brad for signing onto a film adaptation
>>220771671The book wasn't even a real novel, it's journal entries and fake news clippings about the zombie apocalypse.
>>220751591This should have been the REAL actor
>>220771779>mfw the world has been spending billions of dollars and an ungodly amount of energy on glorified meme generators
>>220771718An epistolary novel anon, like Frankenstein
>>220771532Why is Pitt making sequels to F1 and WWZ (without Fincher)? He and Cruise have failed to convert their enduring power to kino, chasing the dollar. And F1 2 will not star Cruise. So what's the point? More Saudi indulgences?
>>220752037so he's mad he didn't read the full script before filming?
>>220759957
>>220772648I don't read books written by women.
>>220773605Mel Brooks' son wrote World War Z. He only transitioned after it was a bestseller.
>>220756206Fuck you retard.Hector was a dishonorable, opportunistic bitch and got what he deserves. His corpse should have been fed to the dogs.Stop doing damage control for Nolan's dumpster fire movie.
>>220774017eat shit you homosexual tranny. hektor did nothing wrong
Hektor should have peppered Achilles with arrows and then said that nobody has seen him when the greeks come looking for him, maybe they should look down on the beach.
>>220775215Stop posting me
>>220775969you are a dickless tranny. you can't lift 20 lbs and you live in a third world ESL country that doesn't have indoor toilets, you little bitch
>>220766387Israel Israel Jews Jews. Imagine living life like this.
>>220773314kino
>>220761159based taste
Pitt is a low IQ retard who married a completely insane woman just because she was hot in her prime. He adopted like half a dozen third worlders instead of having his own kids.
>>220777182Yeah he really strikes me as intellectually limited. In this world, good looks is the most cherished attribute to carry.
>>220752844That’s true
>>220763410is that muppet-looking space dragon going to eat the earth or what
bradu pittu prease
>>220751700it's true. When it came out we all thought it was slop, it was mostly women talking about how Pitt looked, but subsequent events have made it look like a classic.
>>220755281I'm Jewish-American actually
Anti Troy stories are coming out now to try and prop up Nolans upcoming abortion
Well I think he was really good in 12 Monkeys
>>220759565Was about to say this, Achilles isn't really a hero in the movie. in fact Hector is the only likeable character, everyone else is either evil or makes incredibly retarded decisions
>>220755027Troy was great when it came out and it's still great today.
I think he hates The Devils Own too.
>>220751591What a retard, it's a hero story. He played one of the hero's.
>>220778142Shills do this about the Jackson trilogy on behalf of Rope of Trooners as well
>>220764038Nah, Nolan has a unique worldview that's anything but generic.
>>220751700The Iliad is ancient "capeslop"
>>220773314based and she makes it kino going with it
>>220751591Based. Troy was utter trash. I thought he was fine in 12 Monkeys though.
>>220771671>I've seen a lot of people praise it and get mad at the film for wasting its potential.They always do that. It's almost always cope.Books rarely translates well onto screen because books benefit from being able to articulate characters thoughts and motivations explicitly.World War Z is just your run of the mill zombie-take with le tweest (muh perfect zombie horde lmao).
>>220751591>I pulled out of another movie and then had to do something for the studio,’ he revealed. ‘So I was put in Troy.Fare enough, but what was the other movie?Given the approximate date of filming, it was something that lacked any real mystery about his character, and that it would have been something Warner Bros expected to do well, it was likely one of these films:>The Last Samurai (Nathan)>Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Sirius Black)>The Aviator (Howard Hughes)>The Phantom of the Opera (Raoul)Most likely is probably Phantom, I can picture him not being able to do the operatic singing well enough and pulling out for that reason, he would have to have been pretty desperate not to hurt his brand like that, so desperate he'd have agreed to Troy.
>>220778591from what I remember reading he hated it because they completely changed the script from what he saw when he agreed to sign on and you can absolutely feel it watching that movie.
>>220773314chad move
>>220755027People now feel they need to put TROY on a pedestal just to own Nolan.
>>220751591Im just going to say it. Troy sucked and people only retroactively like it now because Nolans Odyssey movie is a woke propaganda trainwreck. Same thing happened with the Star Wars prequels. Also, zoomers are going back and watching older movies for the first time and noticing that even though the movies themselves might suck (they have zero taste so cant notice this anyway) the production value and craftmenship of movies from the 2000s is amazing because its not half baked CGI shit made by a farm of jeets.
>>220778185I liked Sean Bean
