Did the 2000s begin in 1997?
Grunge was already long dead
>>220759524No, 1997-2001 is its own micro-generation. Springer, South Park, Diddy rap, Michael Bay, etc.
>>220759524>[dogshit] is replaced by [absolute peak]Thank God.
>>220759524The early 2000s solidified certain 90s IPs in media which is why it feels like a continuation of the previous decade. Very little original pop culture media survived the first half of the decade because the internet started moving faster than legacy media could.
As a Zoomer I always find it insane how we once had a zeitgiest to dictate what was popular in terms of fashion, music and entertainment. Nowadays its just doomscrolling on IG or going through TikTok videos because everyone's receptors are fried
>>220759551This. 9/11 changed everything (for the worse). The 97-01 period was the peak of civilization.
>>2207595242000s began with 9/11
>>2207596182000s started when the first widely available smartphones and subscription plans were released. Before that society was hardly any different from the 90s. Everything was still on paper and people kept in touch through landlines or emails if you were rich enough to have a computer.
>>220759524Fuck no. I remember when this culture shift happened. I was class of 96, got held back (long story) I started high school in ‘92 (grunge era) my sister is a few years younger than me. She was class of 99, so I got to see the cultural transition. To me as a young adult at the time, 97-9/11 was really its own thing. A unique cultural moment very distinct from both the 2000s and the 90. It was surreal, feels like a fever dream. Lots of shitty music, hot topic became really popular, I was banging a mall goth chick. Lots of anger, but it wasn’t pretentious, art school angst like the early/mid 90s, it was a lot more violent and hateful, whilst also being kinda naive and innocent in other ways. Columbine happened when my sister was a senior, we lived in the next county over. To me Columbine felt like the logical conclusion of that era. The 2000s was a lot more, it almost had incommon with the 80s. Watch teen movies from the mid-late 2000s and you’ll know what I’m talking about.
>>220759663You're describing the 90s. By the mid 2000s almost everyone was on messanger and most people had a computer in their home. In the 90s only like 10% of the population had an email
Still waiting for the 2020s to start
>>220759524No, '2k' did. '2k' is not the 2000s. It's short for y2k i.e. 'around 2000'. 2000 plus or minus a few years, hence starting in 1997. Your pic is not related
>>22075955196 is a vital year that gets looked over. Pop culture moved slower in the 90's. Like movies, people waited to rent them. Video games, not everyone got at launch. Mario 64 was big for 3D games. And film?>Independence Day>Scream>Mission: Impossible>The Rock>Space Jam>The Nutty ProfessorSpecial nod to Ransom as well, for being referenced in the jon benet ramsay note.
>>220759698The 2020s started with the coof and it will probably end with a second great depression just like the 1920s
>>220759728(actually I didn't see the top part. Yes, right around that year, the 90s did transition into Y2K. But not 'the 2000s').
>>220759744Nah the 2020s started in 2019 with the riots that popped off in different parts of the world. It directly signalled the end of the relatively safe times of the 2010s. That's when current trajectory into fucked up economy and social instability began. It's been 6 years and we still probably aren't even halfway through the worst of it yet.
>>22075973596 is also quake and tomb raider. coom raider might have left a bigger impression on teenagers like me (then) than kiddio 64 even if its a great game.
>>220759735I always forget that scream was 96. I always strongly associated it with Y2K era culture in such a big way, like it feels like an essential part of that era, I was class of ‘2001 and we used to watch scream, scream 2, I know what you did last summer and the faculty around Halloween.
I was born in 98 in Western Europe. I grew up with South Park as my go to TV show. RHCP was the band I heard the most as a kid. Which generation am I? Am I really a zoomer?
>>220759698The 2020s was where people just stopped giving a fuck about norms or most other things. After two years of draconian lockdowns due to some flu and the massive surge of inflation that followed; most people realized the world was never gonna look the same and just retreated into their alogrimathic smartphone bubbles along with simping for OF models or gambling on prediction markets. The fact that the political system was openly outed as being owned by pedos with little to no protests about it is where we are at apathetically
>>220759796zoomer with gen x culture for some reason. has there been talk about your country being 20 years behind?
>>220759735Space Jam feels more mid 90s than Scream
>>220759524The EoE vs Princess Mononoke happened in 1997 too
>>2207595511996-2001 yes>>220759524but stillit's the period 1996-2007first half as we said is kinda proto 2000's but had some let's call it 1980s and even 1960s revival of sort but it's not really that it's just the nature of it was similar whatever2001/2002 is when the actual 2000s enterby late 2001 there is where the 2000s really show up and start enter2002 is the first actual 2000s yearwhen the dvd properly started to take over tooactual 2000s is 2002-2007 or better late 2001 to early 2008
>>220759831I’m kinda weird. I’m a zoomer born in 2003, but I have an older brother who is twenty years older than me. Culturally I’m all over the place.
>>220759862didn't ask you
>>220759524no
>>220759524The 2000's started January 1, 2000.I hate you, OP.
>>220759524Mmmbop, ba duba dop baDu bop, ba duba dop baDu bop, ba duba dop ba duYeah, yeahMmmbop, ba duba dop baDu bop, ba du dop baDu bop, ba du dop ba duYeah, yeah
>>220759524If you grew up poor in the 90s/2000s then you never really caught up with society until around the early 2010s.
>>220759917Pic really reminds me how soulless AI has made everything in today's world
>>220759735season 1995/1996 is when late 1990s enterat the same time the shift is also the culmination of the previous erasome of the shit you posted was released by the second half of 1996 and it's more late 1990s than elseas for season we mean from july 1995 to june 1996
>>2207599172001 version
>>220759524no, the '90s had three distinctive periods: early '90s, mid '90s, and late '90s'97-2001 is just the latter.The 2000s officially started with 9/11.
>>220759524No. The 2000s began in 2001 much like the 90s began in 1991
>>220759663>millenial cant picture a world without cellphones existing at all
>>220760188>shitskin reading comprehension
>>220759542yeah, it basically died in 1995, when the last great grunge album came out (Alice in Chains's self titled) and post-grunge already started to take its place on the charts.In 1996 you had Pearl Jam releasing No Code, which represented a major shift compared to their usual sound, and Soundgarden releasing Down on the Upside, which was decent but a disappointment compared to Superunknown.
>G-funk/boom bap hip-hop is replaced by the bling eraExcuse me?
>>220759831Not really. My parents were in their mid twenties when I was born so maybe I absorbed some of that culture.
>>220760300https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-funkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_bap
>>220759990That Blink record wasn't out till 2003 (4?) sloptard
>>220759990>aol disk laying around in the 2000sAI is such garbage
>>220760300It's [monkey noises] replaced by [monkey noises], mestro.
>>220760659>Floppy disks laying around. 1991 maybe
>>220759551>>2207597351996 als saw a major shift in gaming culture with the releases of Quake, Diablo, Command & Conquer: Red Alert, Civilization II, Tomb Raider, Super Mario 64, Resident Evil, Decent 2.To put in perspective Doom 2 came out 1994 and Wolfenstein 3D like 1993. 1996 literally kickstarted the entire gaming culture and for the first time it was a viable pop culture alternative to movies/tv shows/comics/books.Sure there was NES/SNES/Sega/Atari/PC but it was still pretty obscure and reserved for geeks. Also in 1996 almost all in Sweden got high speed internet and it opened up online gaming as well as chatting over ICQ. 1996 was one of my best year ever, the entire world changed like overnight.
>>220760919Als forgot to add 1996 was also the breakthrough year for mobile phones. I went from calling landline phones asking for pals to meet up to text them.
>>220759744>>220759809Both are correct. The 2020s will be a decade of apathy. I do feel like there are murmurs here and there of people wanting to create art of actual quality, and not just hacks with little writing skill but genuinely talented people learning from the previous decade of "creatives" all being politically charged and wanting to sidestep that. That's me being very optimistic though. It seems every day more and more normies figure out that shit is trending downwards and the government is run by pedos who hate us and are bought out by foreign entities, our democracy is a joke, and we are getting screwed over and over again. Its kinda nice that everyone is getting on the same page but the effects are pretty bad, nobody cares about anything anymore and are becoming more and more insular. Somethings gotta bust eventually
>>220759917two kodak cameras, sure we all had these lying around on our desk.
>>220759663>iphone 2007>samsung first galaxy 2009so 2000s started at the end of the 2000sin your head cannon, texting and social networks came with smartphones too?you're totally missing the rise of internet and dotcom era.that's what define Gen Z, not knowing a world without internet, without mobile phones for almost all of them too, and later having smartphones and current social networks during their teenagehood. Gen Alpha did not know a world without smarphones and touch sceen devices
>>220759977Point being, it may have been released in 96, but it's staying power was tested in 97, 98 and so on. Independence Day was for a long time, a one and done movie. Yet it was incredibly iconic. Austin Powers made jokes with it, Star Fox 64 referenced it. Mission Impossible and Scream also still get sequels into today. The era is never obvious. What trends and what connects, its why history is important. Lots of stuff doesn't matter in its time. The lack of accessibility in a lot of ways made media more important to people in the 90's. Where as today, content is so disposable.
>>220759990why would you have a PS2 and a PS1 ?pretty sure silver PS2 did not existed in 2001 neither
i remember in the 2000s that i thought i hated music and video games and movies because it was all corporate garbage. I look back on popular media from then and still just see the corporatism stank all over it and how everyone was just onboard with being told "whoahh dude you need to have the latest X" and "Y is the most popular thing ever dont you know!?" and i felt like an outcast for thinking every rock band was gay and Halo didn't feel as good as i was told it was. It was like a worship having a unanimous culture dictated from America.In my view its weird how splintered all communities became and you can find your perfect music, film and media niche anywhere now but its so less unified too. Theres so much good music being made, a whole world of films, and everything is available on demand now thanks to piracy. What even is the aesthetic anymore? I hated 00s fashion styles at the time and im not too keen on it looking back now but what direction are we going in now? Everyones now so tied up in their own microcosms that its hard to match with someone else because others know so many different things to you now. There is no critique to be made anymore, its like a relapse of post modern where you can just do whatever you want now without prejudice yet its so isolating. I dont know what i want anymore and i dont know what i want out of society
>>220759835It came out late 1996 and then it's VHS release was March 1997 and it aired on premium cable networks in September if 1997, but it didn't start airing on cable/network television till 1999. That's the slowness of 90's media. There's many people that probably didn't see Space Jam till nearly the year 2000 when it began being available this way.
>>220760298Ska was starting to get big by like 94. Grunge didnt reallt last that long but it did significantly shift pop culture
>>220759551That’s all trashy. You’d forgetting Pokemania and NSYNC.
>>220760952If there was still talent around at least the political hacks would be making compelling propaganda. There are no more artists because there's nothing left in the world to be inspired by.
>>220759524the 80s lasted until 1992, the 90s lasted until 9/11 (national tragedy)
>>220759524>Disney Afternoon is replacedThey robbed us of happiness and we did nothing.
>>220761410'94 was a big year for punk revival too, with Dookie and Smash selling millions of copies.Bad Religion, NOFX and Rancid also released some of their most commercially successful albums that year.
>>220761410and Alice in Chains became popular before Nirvana as well, everyones timeline is fucked up
>>220761600Ya i was a 90s warped tour kid. Wondering when nofx will tour again after their farewell tour last year.
>>220759524Will things ever get better?
>>220761787in retrospect, it's weird to remember all those pre 2000 music genres that emerged, peaked, declined and died in like 3 or 4 years (which still felt like an eternity when you were a kid).Now everything feels so stagnant and homogenized, it's like music has stopping evolving after a certain point.
>>220759663>Everything was still on paper and people kept in touch through landlines or emails if you were rich enough to have a computer.Is everyone here a 3rd worlder where things arrived a decade late?Wide internet adoption happened in the 90s. By 2000 everyone had a cell phone and access to the the internet
>>220761978oh great here come the zoomer revisionist larpers
>>220761888I usually hear new music playing in some dumb short video now, and go on spotify to find it has a billion plays. There's no coherence anymore, everybody's fragmented, except for those who are still in school perhaps.
>>220761882>oh no, women age
>>220759542>Grunge was already long deadLast grunge song that was pretty big was Everlong by Foo Fighters and that was 1997
>>22075952419951997 is when it eclipsed the mainstreamStrange Days is a prime example of early 90 grunge stylistics transitioning into the late 90s style
>>220761555After 9/11 nothing was ever the same, it's just a constant decline from here on out with multiple wars, financial crises, pandemic, riots, polarization in both politics and general worldview, woke (if you're right wing), Trump (if you're left wing), and of course, the economy.
There's a big difference between late 90s blockbusters and 2000s blockbusters. The popularity of Hary Potter, LotR, Star Wars prequels and Spider-Man shaped the entirety of 2000s and later years.
>>220763024Foo Fighters wasn't grunge but whatever, Nirvana was more punk than grunge too. Grunge is a name they put on rock music with drowned out distorted guitar sound and the Eddie Vedder, Scott Weiland, Layne Staley, Chris Cornell deep throat drawn out HOOOYEEEEAAHHH vocals that was common in the Seattle scene at the time. Nirvana was in the scene too and sounded similar so they got stamped with the grunge label, but even Nickelback sounds more grunge than Nirvana ever did.
>>220763024that's not a grunge song
