Has media stagnated? Most of this board is talking about movies and shows from 15+ years ago.Meanwhile there's no shows coming out today we'll be talking about in 20 years.
Its all remakes and trash. Why watch a subpar remake when you can watch the good original. Why watch all that slop they're shitting out when there is quality stuff from decades prior and beyond
>>220763154if you're coming to the "Television & Film" board and expect to see discussions regarding television and/or film then you are retarded.
>>220763154The number one problem is DEI initiatives combined with activist writers/producers. Neither of these are conducive to good entertainment products.
>>220763154plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap get pregnant
>>220763154Because they are fuckwits who refuse to watch anything recent because they’re that braindead from constant culture war bullshit
>>220763221>fuckwitsReal hecking chucklefucks, am I right?EDIT: Woah guys, it was a sarcasm enough with the downvotes!/s
>>220763214I watched a video with a Swedish twink with a big cock fucking the fattest most disgusting landwhale you can imagine. That was the caption when he started cumming.
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>>220763259>swedish twink with a big cockThat's a shame. That belongs in my mouth, not a fat woman.
>>220763154The Boys will stand the test of time. It's literally a show that took down a tyrant and his insane cult.
>>220763154Yes
>>220763221I don't do the culture war but new movies and shows really do suck compared yo whay came before, as I am sure you already knew before acting the sodomite.
>>220763154>Has media stagnated?This is a question that should've been asked about 10-15 years ago.
>>220763180i started rewatching six feet under
Television and film are dead mediums, just like the novel and just like painting. People still write and read novels, people still paint and buy paintings, people still play in punk bands and metal bands, etc. It all keeps going no matter what now. But the new and most immediate medium for expression is no longer television or film. They don't and can't have the same impact and they aren't the centre of attention. An edit or a livestream matters more now than any movie.
>>220763335>Based Malfoy.>>220763346It was certainly a challenging fap.
>>220763154>Has media stagnated?Yep. Movies are terrible and mostly remakes, TV shows are done to formula and literally written according to algorithms, video games are mostly remakes and there's a 6+ year development cycle, the publishing industry is severely gatekept and only open to brown and women, and porn is virtually unwatchable.It's a dire time for the world to be so shitty because the circuses have never been less engaging as a distraction.
>>220763358Shit b8, m8. I r8 it -8.
>>220763453I thought I was getting older because I have no interest in the new porn coming out. I stick to the tried and true videos 10 years ago.
>>220763429Television seem to be pretty popular, definitely more than movies.
>>220763154She can be so cute it's a shame she's fully retarded
>>220763154No. Uncs are merely too lazy to care for anything other than old shit.
>>2207631542020's have been abysmal for mainstream entertainment. current movies and tv shows are the worst they've ever been in the whole history of those mediums. and its not like it will ever get better, zoomers just want to watch tik tok short edits forevor.
>>220763154>Most of this board is talking about movies and shows from 15+ years ago.i wish/tvr/ when
>>220763154Sure if you ignore all the Obsession, Mandolorian, Boys, and Odyssey threads, then yes your premise is correct
>>220763487some series are still popular but it's a passive event where women scroll instagram while watching, eating avocados and cucumbers.
>>220764574They're discussing how bad they are.
>>220763154it's all about the message and the color revolution
>>220764628this, I cant actually watch any shows with women. so at this point I just put on shit I dont care about as an excuse to fool around
>>220763154>Has media stagnatedPretty obviously yes
>>220763154Nepotism, DEI and out-of-touch elites killed the entertainment industry.
>>220763154>Has media stagnated?this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I think we are on the cusp of a new renaissance in media due to AI?Hear me out. AI is quickly reaching a point where creative people will be able to use it to produce media that is good. Imagine film school professors assigning their students to make a 10 minute feature using AI tools exclusively. There are still storytellers out there, the next George Lucas, so to speak. We just have to let AI get through this infantile slop phase so it can be a tool it was meant to be, instead of a replacement for no-talent coomers and trolls.
>>220765020Ai movies are just going to be bollywood tier greenscreen dogshit
>>220765020I would agree they might be switching gears in response to AI now that they see what people actually want to see, but I don't think theatrical movies will literally be AI beyond storyboard and concept purposes
>>22076315420 years ago people thought the same thing. When you’re in the middle of it, it’s hard to know what will be important. And then as time moves forward, people will only remember the spectacular (whether it’s a triumph or a failure). All the forgettable bullshit that seems to define the generation at the time is forgotten.
>>220763154Too much different sources of entertainment now so that very few of them are able to become mainstream and so people just keep going back to things that were mainstream before
>>220765020saar please do the needful and give good promptings for ai video generatings
>>220763154Lindyman talks about this. He calls it "stuck culture". Dates the start of it to around 2008.
>>220763154Not really, it’s the discussion of media that stagnated due to the change in forums. Or rather, that there is now no real forum at all.
>>220763221>why won't they just eat the slop?!!!Meanwhile, we have nonstop shill threads about shit like The Boys and Euphoria.
>>220765345I didn't see a lot of Bhoys content before the final episode. I think it's a bit forced. Prove me wrong
>>220765439where the fuck were you? A cave?
What did she mean by this?
>>220765528Look at me! Im a Dyke!
>>220765345>just eat the slopthat's not the point. the point is they're a bunch of middle aged guys that can't be bothered to pay attention or look for anything good and just focus on the negative stuff
>>220765528i literally don't understanding eating pussy. you're supposed to go side to side with your tongue?
>>220765528It's the lesbian equivalent of a chad showing his big dick
>>220765145People don't want theatrical movies anymore. People want episodes of a series, and the series to not end for 4 years between seasons and all the actors look old and fat but are still playing the same people.Episodes are like short stories. Once they solve the character and environment consistency problems with AI, creatives are going to take it seriously. Consider how well the Darth Maul show has done for relatively little cost in time compared to doing the same with live action and compositing. They took brilliant looking concept art and used AI (undoubtedly) to transform it into layered parallax backgrounds.
>>220763154I just watched her directorial debut that came out a month ago and in the first 10 minutes theres a scene of the main character getting raped by her dad but it's shot in a lustful way, you see his abs and tasteful lighting as he's doing it to her
What is the modern-day equivalent of The Sopranos or Peep Show?
>>220765588Name five new shows where the target audience is middle aged men.
>>220765653Better Call Saul came closest. But the directors fumbled the bag
>>220763154I would taste those hot ones.
>>220763221/thread
>>220765677Yellowstone and all its spinoffs. Also Reacher.
>>220765612like everything with women its overly complicated
>>220765721eating pussy is for fags anyways
>>220763154Culture in general has stagnated. People are watching shows from over a decade ago minimum, playing older games, watching older movies, more people are reading older books. Hell, even porn has stagnated. I see more discussions about old porn stars like Lisa Ann or Cherokee D'Ass than you do about modern ones. Everything now is a subversion, parody or deconstruction so there's no sincere culture to interact with.
>>220765718Yellowstone and the spinoffs is just women watching it, it's literally a mexican soap opera.
>>220765677Terminal ListJack ReacherBoschLandmanAmerican Primeval
>>220765732yeah. it would be so gay of me to eat out a hot woman, hope that never happens again
>>220765737>Everything now is a subversion, parody or deconstruction>Hell, even porn has stagnated. I see more discussions about old porn stars like Lisa Ann or Cherokee D'Ass than you do about modern onesZero self-awareness.
>>220765732Fag take
is part of our perception just because 4chan's average age is going up?
>>220765677ru paul's dragrace and the golden bachelor
>>220765757>>220765772>t. submissive gay boys
>>220763154Well the more time that goes by the more media we have. It's competing with not just the other media around today but every media that has gone on in the past. Same as how olympic records and the like get rarer and rarer as time goes by. Why should someone take a chance on watching a new movie with often fake reviews today when they can watch a classic they've never seen that they will get more enjoyment from? In the future current media won't be about watching the best but more about watching because the people are alive and current right now, like why people watch live theatre or the current episode of a soap opera. It'll be more about the performance and the fact of something new, rather than something that will with any likelihood match a classic movie. They're free to come up with an all-time great any day they wish, but competing with the whole of history will progressively become harder and harder to objectively beat.
>>220765737>Cherokee D'AssIve watched a lot of porn in my day and I have no idea who this is
>>220763154Anons (/polfags/) literally cannot handle media that isn't borderline crafted for them, that's why. Anything new gets TRANS TROONS UGGO HELLO SAAR HUEE to hell and back. Even when there is a half decent thread or two there's still plenty of mindless faggy shit posting like that.Are there a lot of remakes and soulless things being pushed? Sure and it's more than it used to be (Matt Damon's interview with Hot Ones touched on dvd sales and how movies could take more risks. Affleck also recent did the info drop that producers want plot drops every 30m)You can blame hollywood and shit for a decent amount but really society just isn't as smart as it used to be and can't pay attention to things. The consumers make/break movies based off of their first weekends. If Anons wanted less slop they'd have to actually go out and buy tickets for non slop movies. Then they'll watch Bugonia and identify with JP's character or just woosh the entirety of Poor Things (Just like reddit did lmao).K stew in Underwater or w/e was good. The board not loving kstew like it used to lets you know how bad things are.
>>220765785>you see bro: sex is all about power. so If I top another guy Im not gay, hes gay for getting fucked by me. anyways eating pussy is extremely gay obviously.
>>220765020I feel like the endgame for that AI use is a subculture of TV shows and movies within something akin to Youtube. But it'll take a long time for AI to make anything good even past when the tech is ready for that. Most people don't use AI for anything original so you'd need to snap people out of that mindset for any kind of industry to flourish.
>>220765677what? was the wire targeting middle aged men? or the sopranos. the point is that even if something like that came out today, they wouldn't care
>>220765829you're brain went right to gay sex (because you're gay)
Black Rabbit and The Lowdown are both decent storytelling that are recent.
>>220765825>You can blame hollywood and shit for a decent amount but really society just isn't as smart as it used to be and can't pay attention to things"polfags" will tell you exactly why this is.
>>220765737or you just grew up and like things that came out around the time you were young. all the shit you liked then had precedents but you just weren't as aware
>>220765836Independent people are already trying to make fan-fic shows with AI, like the starwars stuff. I'll welcome new AI Middle Earth and Indiana Jones and Moebius material if it's well written (or based on original graphic novels) and made for the niche audience instead of the masses and chinese box office filler.
>>220765852I havent been there since they were 1000% convinced there was a nuke in LA and it was going off "soon"
>>220765836AI can't be original, it's just a mashup of older content. You'd be better off just watching the older content, it's the same thing.
What's the deal with modern shows having no color and lots of females talking all the time? Who wants to watch that?
>>220765841that post was responding to a post that said the word gay. my brain usually goes right to the words that I'm currently reading
>>220765923Humans can't be completely original either. Every single thing is at least slightly derivative of something before. No man is an island, and all that.
>>220765932right again, Jerry
>>220765839Well then name 5 modern shows on the same quality tier as The Sopranos and The Wire.
>>220765944you literally can't know anything you don't already knowit's fucking bullshit man
>>22076315415 years ago is 2011Unless I'm mistaken there's nothing worthwhile from that period or on this board.There's little people talk about 20 years later in general.Good shows are coming out still, Widow's Bay is great. It's not a timless classic like Trek TNG or HBO's Rome, but those are far and few in between in general.
>>220765825>Hot Ones touched on dvd sales and how movies could take more risksthey take risks with low budget things like Obsession. middle aged retards haven't caught onto this yet tho>If Anons wanted less slop they'd have to actually go out and buy tickets for non slop moviesthey'd rather go watch fucking Avatar 3 and then cry that it sucked (pro-tip: every single one of those movies sucked)
>>220765718Reacher looks like a show about some buff white dude taking his shirt off all the time surrounded by DEI characters. It's clearly a show for chicks.
>>220765998Sure, but they're basically the only two modern shows that my middle aged coworkers will watch and discuss.
>>220765960you cant. nobody can, tv and movies suck dick right now.
>>220765960>name 5 modern shows that are as good as all time greatsnot how it works
>>220765889Check Xitter and Instagram. Invincible is super popular, but that's just an adaptation of a 25 year old comic. Same with the Boys. The Sopranos is extremely popular with Zoomers as well. What modern media is a big hit that isn't something old?
I pretty much don't watch anything made after 1994. I set up fake tv channels for myself that play movies at random, separated by year. I have an individual channel for every year from 1975 to 1994 and one channel for the rest of the 70s and one for the 60s and one for pre 60s. I don't need to watch newer shit. There's enough good shit in the past that I don't need to engage with newer media. Currently watching 'The Wild Life' (1984), sort of a follow up to Fast Times. It's pretty good.
Last good year for media was 2007. I think the big change was the internet really becoming mainstream which gave more power and control to a small group (of mostly jews) who ran so wild with their new power they just fucked everything. From getting Obama elected to brainwashing every filmmaker into being some feminist anti-racist to fucking over any kinds of standards and shutting down companies they don't like. Everything got fucked. TV, comics, movies, video games, music. If it's made after 2007 there is a 99.99% chance it's pure shit.A movie that wasn't even good when it came out in 2000 is better than anything made in the past 20 years. A stupid movie like Scary Movie has better cinematography and just pure filmmaking than some pseudo intellectual shit made today. Shits all over A24, Christopher Nolan and Eggers.If Butterfly Effect was released today it would win every award. The first Resident Evil movie would make people kill themselves out of joy having never seen a movie that looks like this.You just look at a list of movies that came out in 2000 and it's at least 200 movies that I can say are good.I can't name a single good movie released in 2026 or 2025 or 2024 or 2023
>>220766037>What modern media is a big hit that isn't something old?Squid GameKPop Demon HuntersObsession
>>220765020You are right. It is an unpopular opinion. Mainly because it´s wrong and retarded but still... >>220763154>Has media stagnated?Depends on what you mean. Mainstream media is fully corporate now. Their production structures got too big so these days everything revolves around playing it safe an exploiting established properties and popular topics mined through surveys and data analysis to maximize profits for them. Furthermore, since the way people consume media has change they are capable of regulating content accessibility. All this basically means that creative people are still there and, most likely, still making stuff; After all it´s never been easier for authors to get access to good cameras, cheap or free editing and post production software, affordable and easily transportable lighting and even publishing platforms... It´s an statistical improbability that good stuff is not being made, the problem lies in accessing it. You have to consider these people are no longer capable of profiting from selling DVDs or blurays and getting their stuff on Amazon or Netflix is probably an uphill battle full of ridiculous demands and conditions. Even festivals have been taken over by Hollywood slop. Two decades ago it would have been unthinkable to debut capeshit on any serious cinema venue but these days that´s pretty much all they make. So has it stagnated? Kind off, talented people still exist but Hollywood is no longer backing them. They don´t care for author movies that make a few million bucks, they just want big IPs. Which is also the reason success is not even measured in the analysis of storytelling skills but rather on how many billies a movie makes.
>>220766086Demon Slayer
>>220766086>astroturfed Korean slop pushed by click farms>ObsessionlolNotice how Korean slop died once AI got better at finding and shutting down click farms
>>220763154>Meanwhile there's no shows coming out today we'll be talking about in 20 years.How do you know this? Are you from then?
>>220766129Cope.
>>220766037>I actually know what the kids are into because of my timeline that is catered to mesure thing grandpa
>>220763396
The internet has killed monoculture. Nothing has cultural staying power anymore because 90%, at max only 20% of the population watched it, and not even all at the same time.Blockbusters used to be that, people lined up across the block. Everyone would talk and discuss, but now everything lasts a week before being beat into the ground by the internet.>>220765020LOLThis is the complete polar opposite of the truth. Everyone will be generating their low quality slop and no one else will care about it, there won't be culture at all.
There needs to be a new zeitgeist. All forms of art are dead.
>>220766086so Korean slop? No wonder modern shit sucks
>>220766129>Obsession appears to be on the verge of actually increasing its second-weekend box office over its first, something that very, very rarely happens. That nearly happened with Sinners last year, which suffered only a ~5% drop between weekends, but this is an industry where only losing half your audience between weekends is very good. Going up the following week is something very, very rarely seen.>The second milestone that could be hit this weekend, or shortly thereafter, is Obsession hitting $100 million in earnings. That would make it one of the lowest-cost-to-highest-grossing films ever, as it is doing so on a $750,000-$1 million budget, a 100x multiplier at worst. And it may go higher than that. This almost always happens only in horror, and you can probably think of two other examples that fit this category: The Blair Witch Project and Paranormal Activity. There are more, but very, very few with a ratio this extreme, as that amount of money isn’t just cheap, it’s below almost every other wide-release film in theaters at any given time. And if anything is on that level, you’re not going to see earnings anywhere close to this.
>>220763204>DEI initiatives Bitch, you faggots are the government now. Deal with it
>>220765997>a low budget horror movie is a risk
>>220766157marvel slop managed to be pretty big even with the internet tho. i pretty much would tend to agree tho>>220766073>A stupid movie like Scary Movie has better cinematography and just pure filmmaking than some pseudo intellectual shit made today.the companion was as good as scary movie but you didn't care because you're not a dumb kid anymore
>>220763154What a mid bitch lol built like a little boy no wonder these losers like her
>>220766198Fuck off nigger. Affirmative action still happens, just under a different name, just like it did prior to DEI. The government just has no will or capability to actually enforce it.
>>220766086>shit from Korea and a flash in the pan horrorWhat amazing culture. I'm sure they'll be talking aboit Obsession for decades
>>220766201>a film that will make lots of money back off DVD sales is a risk
>>220766157Nothing has staying power because it's all astroturfed. When the new big thing comes it's not because people fell in love with it and it grew and everyone went to see the new thing. They were told that it's the new thing so they go along and say they love it too until the marketing/bot funds dry up and it slowly fades from public because there is no one alive who actually cared about it.There are very few things that have an organic following and get popular like that. Shit like backrooms has an active community, mostly horror stuff and ARG shit, community based projects like SCP. That's the kind of stuff that stays around and people keep talking about it.No one talks about fucking Squid Game or Euphoria or that League of Legends cartoon, because it was not organic. Meanwhile Breaking Bad and Dexter have this organic community that seems to only grow even when the show is off the air for 10+ years.
>>220766216>The government just has no will or capability to actually enforce ityou mean currently. check back in 3 years
>>220763154can someone please explain how this stupid youtube channel gets A-list celebs on it all the time?
>>220766219>talking about X for decadesIt's a digital world now, dimwit. Things move much faster.
>>220766210>the companionI will not watch a movie with the worst nepobaby of all time and one of the worst actors I've ever seen, and another nepobaby with a bogged skeletor faceJoin the 41% trooner
>>2207662393 more years. Trust the plan.-Q
>>220766246same way adam friedland show somehow does
people talked about true detective and fargo and severance and succession
>>220766248>I have no attention span or memory anymore!>Somehow this is a good thing!
>>220766259that's the point. when you were a dumb kid you didn't have any awareness of any of this. you just thought this had a bit of buzz or trailer looks good and you went and watched it
>>220766282You're an idiot.
>>220765960More stuff has come out I enjoy or know I will enjoy than I can keep up with.Off the top of my head, modern shows I like:Bodkin, Ted, The Orville, Flanagan stuff, Slow Horses, The Terror s1, True Detective s1 and 4, At Home with Amy Sedaris, Joe Pera Talks with You, Widow's Peak, The Expanse s1-3, Queen's Gambit, Wednesday s1, The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance, The Curious Creations of Christine McConnell, Monsieur Spade, Fear Street Trilogy, What We Do in the Shadows, Ghosts (2019), Inside No. 9I think if I organize my media server the list would be four times as long, as there are things I've downloaded and archived but haven't had the time to watch.Stuff I haven't seen but know I'll probably also enjoy:ObituaryResident AlienFor movies there are hundreds.For me it's no so much that media has stagnated it's that so much stuff is coming out concurrently catering to every sort of taste that you really have to keep up with curate your own personal list.
>>220766274Forgotten a week after they aired.
>>220766248That's a part of the problem. If nothing can leave an impression or last then where is the culture? With that line of thinking AI movies will replace regular ones and we'll just rotate through movie after movie with no real discussion or thoughts.
How come no one can write interesting dialog or characters anymore? Modern shows sound like a chore to sit through. Like sitting through a HR lecture.
>>220766294you already forgot what you watched yesterday
>>220763154Everything takes eleventy fuckbillion dollars to make now so production companies are fiscally required to play it as safe as they possibly can. And because hollywood is retarded, what original work that DO end up in the public eye dont send the message of "take more chances on new shit people will find interesting," it sends "this director makes money, have them direct our new slop." See Rian Johnson and looper/star wars, Cregger with weapons/resident evil for some recent examples.
>>220766305And that's why there will never be a movie or episode that 40 million people watched together at the same time. Only sport broadcasts can recreate this vibe
>>220766289When I was a kid I watched every movie I could get my hands on and very few movies were outright bad, you had to go out of your way to find bad movies. I stopped watching just any movie because you can only go through so much shit until you get fed up. From 2007 and later the movies become harder and harder to watch. They are just bad and it has nothing to do with me being a kid.Me refusing to give a chance to a shitty movie with fucking Jack Quid doesn't mean I am missing out on some good movie. Kill yourself troon.
>>220766274>show comes out>season 1 is good>discussion is great>have to wait two to three years for a second season>no garuntee if it'll stay good or be canceled in between
>>220766353The Wailing. Good movie.
>>220766353Upgrade. it's just as good or better than the Matrix but boomers will never know. they do know how bad Matrix 4 was though
>>220765899Being bombarded with fanfic shows and sequels are just a different form of hell to the one we're in. You need someone with actual vision, not some making their fanfiction come to life.
>>220766353Ali G in dahouse. honestly, its pretty bad
>>220766353Alien 3 assembly cut
>>220766354>Everything takes eleventy fuckbillion dollars to makeThat's what happens when you need endless focus groups and market analytics and rewrites and reshoots and an entire Indian urban center's post-production work.
>>220766365if you think that basically no movie from your childhood was bad that is a sure sign that it's completely a function of your age
>>220766479>>220766490both bad/and just a sequel of an old film>>220766374>>220766440actually good films that are newer
>>220763259Link the vid dude
>>220766522Tranny cope. There were bad movies but you have to go out of your way to find them and the bad movies would be considered good if they came out today.Bad movies like Friday the 13th shit on movies made today and I didn't watch these movies as a kid because they looked like shit. A movie that was shit when I was a kid now shits all over every movie released today.>b-but you were le kid when a movie you didn't see as a kid was released
>>220766605>tranny, tranny, trannyYou definitely jack off to those.
>>220766353GDP218
There's plenty of bad old movies too you know. Its the whole reason mystery science theater exists. But yes, there were also more good movies in the past then today in general.
>>220766305Imo everyone should give Monsieur Spade a try.Is it perfect? No. Does it stick the landing? Not really.Have people accused it of MUH LIBRUHL MUZZIE MESSAGING DEI BULLSHIT? Yes, though I personally didn't think it was.I found it to be a diamond in the rough. French period piece kino.
>>220766633Tranny pedophile lost his fucking mind already
>>220766658Insane cope. Mystery science theater would go out of their way to find the cheapest B-movies made by the most amateur filmmakers. They didn't do their terrible unfunny commentary over proper movies that actually were shown in cinema and on tv. Those movies were on the same level as Nostalgia Critic filming Kickassia>movies used to be le bad because amateur filmmakers got a camera and filmed bullshit in the forest with 2 actors (his two friends)
>>220766605you're right, man. Project Hail Mary doesn't compare to any random Steven Seagal movie because it came out after 2007
>>220766662>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KO33tSi5SoNeat, first episode is on youtube.Shame Cara Bossom isn't in more stuff, she's kino.
>engaging with anything made after 1999>engaging with anyone born after 1981not even once
>>220766754Project Hail Mary is awful and a diamond dozen Seagal flick like Marked for Death mogs it, yes.
>>220766776you wont watch something made in 2000?
Uncs are the problem.
nutty professor ii and catwoman were elite films, guys! shit on any garbage from today
>>220763154In an age of 25/8 media exposure, if you value your time, stick to following people whose work you find worthwhile. My interest in current Hollywood was just Jake G's 2012-16 works, then I had to see who he was competing against etc. The auteurs being shilled have their rise and fall, you don't need to catch everything. I've gone back to catching up on Jap movies/dramas I've missed, interesting if for how they've handled a recession far longer than US.
If it didn't have a VHS release, it's slop.
>>220763154to say that media has "stagnated" implies that there are no new ideas. there are plenty of new ideas and movies that use them. the problem is that the new ideas that get made into movies are executed horribly, so very little ever takes off as a big new thing. this is most obvious on the writing front, where goofy dialog and quips get injected into everything, unlikeable characters dominate, worldbuilding is weak, and everything is wrapped in a few layers of irony to protect the writers' from any real criticism. these things all combine to make it so that nothing really sticks in people's minds for more than the runtime of the film they just saw. it's all about execution, and you can see similar degrees of bad execution in different forms of media that are experiencing this same issue
>>220763154>Has media stagnated? Most of this board is talking about movies and shows from 15+ years ago.pretty much. nearly every film and tv show that has come out since 2015 (hey that's around the time they completely switched to digital cameras. I think they use 2013 because in 2013 like 85% of the box office dollars went to movies hot with digital cameras) has been ass
>>220766787I thought Project Hail Mary was all right but I agree, I'd rather watch Above the Law, Out for Justice, Marked for Death, or Hard to Kill over it any day.
For me, it's The Drama
>>220766857Even Spongebob was just Ren & Stimpy with its balls neutered.
>>220766895I guess thats why its lasted so much longer
>>220766924Animals that are neutered do tend to live longer, yes. They have less fun and lead dull lives, but they linger on a long time. That's what happens when you don't try new things or take any risks.
>>220766754Any Steven Seagal movie before 2007 mogs whatever dogshit you think is good>BUT I LE HATE STEVEN SEAGAL!!!!!Steven Seagal doesn't make movies, he is an actor. Directors, camera men, set designers etc make movies and the people he worked with were good at their job.Here is a random Steven Seagal movie. Better than anything released today. Look how kino it all looks and how it sounds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tekfzSP4DGE>b-but le steven seagal is a fakeHe didn't direct the movie. John Flynn directed the movie.
>>220766986You're braindead. May the rest of your body soon follow.
>>220766805Nutty Professor is great.Catwoman was considered a terrible movie of its time, considered one of the worst, it was so bad it could destroy careers. If released today it would be one of the top movies and the cinematography and basic filmmaking surpasses anything modern directors can do today.
>>220767018see >>220767016
When you reach a certain age you stop trying to find 'good' things to watch and start trying to find things that are unique or interesting or have a certain vibe.
>>220766986That's one of the two passable movies he was ever in, the other one is Under Siege. The rest are garbage tier.He never had any talent but it was quite shocking how fast he fell into making crap.
>>220764514>/tvr/ whenIsn't that basically the classic+arthouse general? They talk a lot about pre-2000 movies.
>go see 'Under Seige' with my dad in the theater>the scene with Erika Eleniak comes on>I usually have to cover my eyes when boobs are on screen because of my mom>i look at my dad and whisper "should i cover my eyes?">he looks at me and shakes his head and then smiles and nods and says "don't tell your mom"bassssssed
>>220767037>*When you reach a certain age you stop trying to find 'good' things to watch and re-watch old slop pretending it's good.ftfy
>>220767040More copeAnother random Steven Seagal moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kP6czUKiLM>it le looks bad because...it just does ok??? I hate steven seagal because he is now fat and stars in straight to DVD slop and my communist heroes cumtown made fun of him!!!!!The movie has a 5.9 on imdb which translates to 9.0 today.
>>220765329>that there is now no real forum at all.What do you mean by that?
>>220767116I used to watch Oscar movies when I was in my 20s. I would buy every Best Picture winner on DVD. I haven't watched a movie nominated for best picture in over 20 years. But I did watch 'Day of the Animals' today. It was terrible. I loved it.
>>220765329Correct.
>>220767129his first 5 movies are his 5 best movies, this is just another one of those. Hes been making pure shit for 30 years
>>220766305>Queen's Gambit, Wednesday s1,Lmao, really? >For movies there are hundreds.name 50 made in the last 5 years.
>>220767281Goalpost moving.>he was only in one good movie>ok, two, but that's it>ok it's 5 actually BUT NO MORE, he has been making pure shit for 30 years (translation: I agree with you completely and movies have been terrible since 2007, which is why he hasn't been in a good movie for so long, and yes even a Steven Seagal movie from before 2007 mogs the shit out of the best movie this year)
>>220767338Im not the same guy you started arguing with. Im just a guy whos watched many many steven seagal movies
>>220767338every john wick movie "mogs" steven seagal's entire career
Steven Segal movies are kino. At least they were until they started to add rednecks and ghetto shit in them in crap like Exit Wounds and On Deadly Ground.
>>220767388Its just 5 decent action movies, thats it. Above the law, marked for death, hard to kill, out for justice and under siege. everything steven has made after under siege fucking blows.
>>220763154Donnie won
>>220767362Now that's a new cope. John Wick movies are unwatchable slop. The only selling factor for the movies is that Keanu Reeves does spins and tacticool moves and goes all fast going pew pew pew. The actual filmmaking, the visuals, the editing, it sucks. Blue filters with the entire screen blurry. Yellow piss filters. It's a power fantasy for people to go ''YEAH THIS IS HECKIN' BADASS!! KILL THOSE PEOPLE FOR HURTING YOUR DOGGO!!!!'' which is fine, but the filmmaking is ass.
>>220766986>Steven Seagal doesn't make movieshe directed on deadly ground, which is terrible
>>220767362>John WickOh... how owdinawy.
>>220767478>t. Dunning-Kruger scum
>>220767478Im pretty sure even people that dont like john wick will admit its action scenes are filmed pretty well. you just have a retarded hill to die on that everything made before 2007 is better in every single way.
>>220767486I still guarantee it's better than any movie released this year
>>220767533see >>220767016
>>220763154most of this board is genx burnout pseuds, look at how much rlm is defended here
>>220767523The two most famous action scenes in the dogshit series are>two retards walking around in public shooting at eachother with magic silent guns, neither reacting to getting hit by bullets or trying to hideand>retard shoots up a club, it's just flashing lights and you can't see shit while loud fart noises play, the terrible lighting made worse by a blue vaseline filterEpic action scenes, bro
>>220767533Sisu 2 from last year is much better. you should hate things for their actually quality, not the year in which they came out.
>>220767523Nta but digital movies look way worse than what come before them.
John Wick movies give me a sour aluminum can like aftertaste of bland modernity. I wouldn't complain if I watched one of them in prison or something but I'd never go out of my watch to watch one.
>>220767592No.
>>220767577and whatever you want to call those scenes, they are better then basically any steven seagal movies action scenes
>>220767580Imagine conceding your point this bad you have to go a year back to prove there are better movies released this yearThe biggest retard post I've ever seen. You couldn't list a movie from this year better than the worst Steven Seagal movie. Holy shit.
>>220763154>Has media stagnated? Most of this board is talking about movies and shows from 15+ years ago.>Most of this board is talking about movies and shows >Most of this board>this boardSee, that's where you fucked up
>>220766305Anon... you didn't answer the request. Which ones are on par with Sopranos and the Wire? Most of them don't even come close.
>>220767592you guys cant deal with opinions that arent extremes. Is digital over all worse looking then film? yes. are most movies today worse then most movies from the 90'? also yes. but not every single movie made after 2007 is worse then anything made before, thats retarded.
>>2207676092026 is extremely bad for movies, Im not debating that. but you also think that of everything from 2008-2025 which isnt true
>>220767638>but not every single movie made after 2007 is worse then anything made before, thats retarded.I agree with that though. Why are you putting words in my mouth? Of course that there will be exceptions for literally everything but we are in a dark age of cinema and tv.
>>220767616Total unc expulsion required.
>>220767638The decline in quality is so sharp it's just semantics saying every movie released after 2007 isn't worse>heh, but what if I find the best movie released in 2008 and compare it to the worst movie ever made of 1954!!! see??? movies are still good, stop thinking in extremes!
>>220767659>2026 is extremely bad for moviesNo.
>>220767659I don't think a bad movie Steven Seagal directed is better than every movie released in the last 20 years. I just think it mogs 99% of movies released. Of course you can find a few good movies here and there. We went from maybe 300 great movies a year to 1 at best and 5 maybe passable movies per year.
>>220767705>We went from maybe 300 great movies a year to 1 at best and 5 maybe passable movies per year.This is the most accurate thing said in this thread.
>>220767705I was alive during a time when it was the norm for 2 or 3 all time classics to be in theaters at the same time. It's a shame we took it for granted back then. We didn't know how good we had it.
>>220767673>The decline in quality is so sharpNo.>>220767720>We went from maybe 300 great movies a year to 1 at best and 5 maybe passable movies per year.Bullshit.>This is the most accurate thing said in this thread.You're legit retarded.
>>220766198>hurr durr da government runs leftist media!!! Kill yourself
>>220767759Tranny pedophile having a meltie
>>220767740It's fucking insane realizing such a time existed. It was just assumed that something great is about to be released. Not only would there always be a movie just around the corner that you can look forward to but you would miss great movies. Movies that are considered masterpieces now flew past like nothing because there was other good stuff to watch.Now it's so grim you may as well not follow news at all. Just do a recap at the end of the year to see if there is one movie you can even watch. It looks like 2026 may have one bearable movie which is the meme Backrooms movie. I think it will be fine but it's not going to be a classic. ''It's ok'' is the best we can have.
>>220767306It's all unsorted in my media server that I really cbf to fire up atm so I can't give a definitive list, suffice to say I know I've been dling a LOT of shit in the past 5 years. And stuff I've already listed is just stuff I could bring myself to sit down and watch or happened to be in the right frame of mind to watch which is why it's skewed towards shows that are easily consumed like candy and I've been putting off shows and movies I know that need my full undivided attention so they are not really indicative of my full tastes.The only ones I can remember or glean from quick google search, Wake Up Dead Man, Abigail (2024), The Eternal Daughter (2022), Heretic, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, Oddity, FuriosaStuff I kinda liked:BarbarianFinal Destination BloodlinesSinnersM3GANDon't Look UpTenetEvil Dead RiseLee Cronin's The MummySome stuff I haven't seen but is on list:AftersunThe Quiet GirlThe Old OakThe HoldoversMr. Kand at least four dozen moreIf we can include 2020:The Babysitter Killer QueenThe Kid Detective
>>220767869>It's fucking insane realizing such a time existedRight. Because it didn't.
>>220767876>Don't Look Upholy shit that was terrible. end yourself, please
>>220767876>Sinners
>>220767957You basically looked up to see his post so it's extremely meta.
ITT: Boomer cavemen recite their favorite pullstring catchphrase, "OLD GOOD, NEW BAD!!!!"And as a fellow boomer caveman I unironically agree.
>>220763154Woke dogshit is tiresome and forgettable.
>>220767617I'm not interested in the subject matter of those shows. I know they're critically acclaimed but they're just not something I'm interested in watching. For me the stuff on my list is better. I also don't like serials that last that long, it's usually a sign that they're bad shows to me. If they last more than three seasons then they better be more episodic like TNG or Orville.The Orville for instance I'd rate higher than Sopranos or The Wire.
>>220763154yes. this board is always talking about the current thing, pay attention, its obvious whenever pr flacks are pushing something -- its every threadyou can't know the future 10 minutes from now, let alone 20 years from now
>>220768001Even if you took out the woke dogshit it would still be tiresome and forgettable.
>>220763154>movies Pajeet CGI and tired reheated plots >showsWoke propaganda, take 3 years between seasons, canceled after 2 or 3 seasons, end on a cliffhanger
>John WickCG sloppa.
>>220768006>I know they're critically acclaimed but they're just not something I'm interested in watchingThen you should have began your post with that.
>>220768006>The Orville for instance I'd rate higher than Sopranos or The Wire.then you're a fucking moron
>>220767876>Barbarian>Final Destination Bloodlines>Sinners>M3GAN>Don't Look Up>Tenet>Evil Dead Rise>Lee Cronin's The Mummyshit
>>220767957>>220767958That's why I put them in a separate list. Not great movies but has enjoyable scenes I can rewatch, like parts of Everything Everywhere All at Once, whoch I also kinda liked.
>>220767956Tranny pedophile coping
YES I AM A TRANNY? SO WHAT?
There's no such thing as trannys. They're called "faggots".
>>220768037>>220768044Gangster or mafioso shit generally doesn't interest me.HBO's Rome, now that was a show. The Terror season 1 as well.Though I do have Taboo and Peaky Blinders on my eventually check out list. Maybe I'm just an anglophile, who knows. But then again I enjoyed True Detective season 1.
>>220768033Watch Wheels on Meals instead. Immensely more entertaining and much better choreographed. And they're actually fighting, too.
>>220765810You probably saw her ass in that meme with her ass in Georgia Peach’s face
>>220768107at least half of sopranos isnt even about the mob. If thats whats holding you back youre really missing out
>>220768198I may eventually check it out. I just know it's something I'm generally not into. I watched The Penguin out of boredom and the mob stuff puts me to sleep, thank god for Cristin Milioti. Colin Farrell too, I'm generally more inclined to watch something he's in, Banshees of Inisherin too I enjoyed.
>>22076812480's hong kong movies are basically are the pinnacle of action cinema. John wick is the best possible version of that type of action movie that can be made today. your standards are impossibly high is my point
>>220768297bro what are you talking about, that doesn't even make sense - you like True Detective and Peaky Blinders and Taboo but you just don't like anything with gangs or the mob in it. What if there's a gang-related episode in one of those shows? Will you say "oh that stuff doesn't interest me at all so I won't watch it"? Just watch it and whatever preconception you had will make you feel silly.
remember how shitty search engines had become?ai saved us by curating whatever we're looking forit'll be the same for movies and tvjust tell skynet what you want to watch and it'll generate a movie or a show for you
>>220768447>remember how shitty search engines had become?that was intentional. the indian head of google finance told the indian head of google search to turn off all of the tools that made google search good so they could serve more ads
>>220768470you don't have to post if you don't have anything to add, you know
>>220768447AI will ruin everyone's life. Except for me. I have backups of all of my movies and I watch them all on a non smart TV. I have enough entertainment to get me through the rest of my life. Don't care.
>>220768500why are you a homosexual?you can go read google memos, they are publicly traded. they 100% did what I said they did, homo
>>220763154>or something
>>220768524you're adding common knowledge that hasn't almost nothing to do with my post and completely misses the point of it
>>220768360I only have one rule: I see CGI, I sleep.Zzzzz.
>>220768396Taboo is one season, and I generally know Brits write quality series that tend to wrap things up well succinctly (e.g. Norrell & Strange) which is why I'm more inclined to watch them.I hate soaps, I hate mysteryboxes, I hate enduring interpersonal dramas. If it last more than three seasons as I said it needs to be amazing. I like plot-centric stories and I like powerful scenes. Like I saw this scene and thought I might like it:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbmYA5rYOVcPeaky Blinders is more iffy for me. I'm less inclined to believe I'll enjoy it because it's 6 seasons which rings alarm bells. But I do have it and equally long shows like The Crown and Downton Abbey also on my to watch list. Haven't seen any of these shows, not in the right mood to immerse myself in them yet.
>>220768360>your standards are impossibly high is my pointHe's just a piece of shit.
>>220763154Yes. Like 70% of music consumed is 20+ years old. Video games are all about nostalgia bait and ripping off classics.
>>220768546>remember how shitty search engines became>hey search engines became shitty on purpose>what does that have to do with search engines becoming shittydamn you ESL retards are dumb
>>220768618Your mom is a piece of shit. Ohhhh
>why is the mario galaxy movie worse then Citizen Kane? fuck This whole thread
>>220768734you're either fucking retarded or your browser only show the first lines of each post
>>220766073>Last good year for media was 2007.That's when the big writer's strike happened. I've come to think that was the beginning of the end.
>>220763154stagnated no, been poisoned yes.in the past, quality was put above progaganda, therefore old stuff is better.
>>220768856why would I read the rest of your gay ass ESL post?
>>220763154Hi there aggrogator thread!I'm here to present you my organic user response!Hope this will help you in your data collection!Niggers tongue my anus.Kill all jews, everywhrere, all the time, every time."Modern media" is designed to cause as much cultural damage as humanly possible. It can even be said that the financial powers (jews) decided to dispose of old media, which itself was a wrecking ball against old culture.This is done to prevent good old media, from actually remaining, and becoming a beacon of culture itself.Everything is designed to cause maximum destruction, artistically, and psychologically.Media is no longer audience dependant, because box-office and financial profit is no longer a motive nor an operational goal.The goal, is to communicate from a position of power in no uncertain terms, that the audience will get projectile shat in the face, forever. It may have ugly niggers and troons in it, but the actual message is not diversity or even sexual degenracy.The message is that the system is a fucking hijacked passanger plane, and it's being drivern as painfully and destructively into the ground as humanly possible. You have no power over it as a consumer, because technically speaking, you're actually a hostage.Protip: It's all propped up by rent money, and faggot Boomer 401Ks. because that's the actual real liquid capital that asset management companies can actually pump into production. They won't sell real estate, and all of their other 'wealth" is tied up in intangible assets, which is basically jews evaluating "sitting on a George Floyd themed dildoe" as a gorillion dollar IP, but it can never be manifested as actual wealth. It only exists on paper, to artifically make the US seem to have a growing economy, and devalue tangible assets, by forcing the markets to evaluate them in the same financial framework, to make them cheaper to buy out, ergo steal.tl;dr Popular media is now a proxxy for global finance.
>>220769045I accept your concessionbut don't ever reply to me or posts ever again
>>220763154Modern entertainment sucks.Movies and tv shows nowadays are lame.Even modern games suck and just designed to sell live-service bullshit.
>>220769015> stagnated noI feel like it stagnated a little as well, most of the stuff we get are just rehashes of old media. I can’t think of any movies made after 2020 that brought anything new when it comes to cinematography.
>>220766172We are in the golden age of Youtube though
>>220769149are we? the algorithm and things getting demonetized and banned for random reasons in recent years has made youtube much worse then a decade ago
>>220769127Watch more.
>>220768983The strike was a symptom of the change that happened behind the scenes. Writers don't just strike out of nowhere, like it's some bad weather. People with enough power to hit all the writers at the same time did it and caused them to chimp out. The writers were tricked and got replaced by DEI hires.
>>220768013>tv showsMore like Woke propaganda that Normalfags pretend is good until the finale is shit and everyone pretends they never liked it to save face.
>>220769103nah, you lost, thirdie
>>220769261and there was another writers strike a few years ago, so things will get even worse
>>220769208Name a few innovations made in the last 5 years.
>>220763154WTF IM CUMMING
>>220769341AI
>>220768734exactly.i saw search engines being deliberately broken from about 14 years ago. they turned them into "interpretative", ignoring what you actually wanted to look up, and always returned only the same 10-20 sites no matter what you were looking for. it was always wikipeeia, youtube, ebay, amazon, plebbit x 1 million.this resulted in all small personal sites and private but open forums being crushed and destroyed. with no new people finding forums, traffic dropped over a few years to almost zero. even large established sites that had been around for 25 years shut down.it is so they could funnel all traffic into monitorable singular entities like plebbit, since it was too much effort for them to pay off/threaten the hosts/owners of every forum separately.check on a non-google/yahoo/bing engine now and you'll find almost all old forums tail off with posts around 2014-2016, some earlier.
>>220769127true, tons of rebooting and remakes and unnecessary sequels to old crap started coming in the early 2000seven a lot of crap films based on 1970s/80s series
>>220763549theres too much good old shit i will never run out
>>220769181Yes but putting those problems aside, the (non-dramatic) content is so much more interesting than what I used to find on regular TV.
>>220763154Did she turn into a strung out looking methslut about the same time as Jodie Foster started "mentoring" her?
>>220769586good post
>>220763221Contemporary media fucking sucks. Most people recognize this. There is not one single solitary show or movie made in the last 15 years that anyone thinks is memorable or a classic.
i wish i could have sex with kstew
>>220770111GAY
>>220770451i couldn't possibly be more heterosexual
>>220766662>Monsieur Spadethanks for the rec, anon. Nice to browse this ridiculous board and find something that looks watchable at least occasionally.
>>220769586Yea you're right it was by design.It's now common knowledge that the original intent for the creation of the internet was mass surveillance:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1US6sxgKrc>Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet by Yasha LevineThe elites probably needed to figure out a way to cordon the massive internet userbase into neat pens in order to better surveil them in and killing off all the small forums was the way they did it.It's probably also related to the Epstein files too, since we know Epstein appointed Moot to create /pol/ and Ghislaine Maxwell runs and moderates reddit after Aaron Swartz was murdered.And now we know why there was a decade-and-a-half long campaign of anti-asian male rhetoric and WMAF funded porn and related posts on /pol/, Epstein felt slighted when he traveled along the trilateral commission to China and overheard "beware the Jewish dog" from likely Chinese counterintel who knew Epstein was intel, and so went on a personal misguided crusade against asian men. I suspect Kash Patel posts there now, there's been an unhinged obviously Indian poster with an anarchist memeflag trying to shift blame of anti-Indian racism on China and it reeks of desperation and denial.
