Ok but really. What is the real world reason all the writing in this scene is comically awkward?
Nolan has autism
Biggesf since the silent era
>>220764525It literally took me years to realize Bane was saying "it would be painful for you". The whole scene confused the fuck out of me.
>>220764897it's a very odd way to threaten someone into not removing your maskand while it's less strange, it is still strange to immediately ask if someone will "die" without their weird maska more natural question would've been >do you need that thing to breathe?but even then there's more important things going on
>>220764525CIA says Nolan insisted on shooting everything in one take in a really loud airplane with seemingly no rehearsal, actually opening the door in mid flight etc. He literally couldn't hear a word Bane said and all his lines were obviously shouted at the top of his lungs. It's like my boomer neighbor's idea of a movie scene except the motherfucker controls zillions of dollars to make you do it.
>>220765049that's hilarious
>>220764525it's literally just the inclusion of the cut to "you're a big guy" and breaking the delivery of "it would be extremely painful for you." no one would converse like this, not even in capeshit.
>>220765049That makes it even funnier.
nah its actually a really cool line, it was just delivered and timed awkwardly
>>220764525>comically...um...maybe because the original source was literally a COMIC. Idiot.
>>220765079it doesn't help that CIA man does literally everything fucking wrong and acts like a retardI know Nolan is like in deep with the feds through his brother or whatever but shilling that the CIA wouldn't just actually kill the random mercenaries they weren't there for if they had no intel instead of pretending to is preposterous
>>220765079Saying "I'm CIA" does sound pretty silly. You can see what they were going for but it really doesn't work
>TELL ME ABOUT BANE!>WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?!why would anyone ask that? instead of "where is he?" or "what does he want?"
>>220765049>>220765073>>220765088found the full interviewhttps://youtu.be/fp8kgX1POKI&t=328he talks about TDKR starting at 5:28
>pretend to shoot a man and throw him out of the plane>just hope he won’t shout to spoil the ruse>bane is the only person not threatened, CIA could’ve easily accidentally thrown him overboard
>>220764525They just wanted to have the big impressive stunt work and to make us go>wow, he really dangled a plane from another plane, the absolute madmanAll the reasons for it to happen were secondary and tacked on.Plus it wasn't just awkward writing, it was awkward delivery inside the plane because at times it was so loud the actors couldn't hear themselves
>>220765226he also only gives them like half a second to answer before he pretends to shoot themand it's dumb for bane to pretend shooting someone and throwing them out of a plane is some kind of dumb thing, like why wouldn't you do that? and the plane is low enough that a person could conceivable survive the fall
>>220764525Actor was a pain in the ass.So 1. Nolan was filming with imax which has loud cameras up close 2. Rewrote or cut out chunks of his dialogue 3. Accidentally while editing it he got most of the finished scene including this and thought it was hilarious because hardy has his mouth covered and could adr it but cia man didn’t because Nolan thought he was a pain in the assCIA actor man for over a decade would throw hissy fits over it in interviews he’s very pompous which is what annoyed Nolan
>>220765302nolan apologistnot everyone has autism and the plane scene isn't the only massive, hilarious flaw in TDKR
>>220765230It's a bunch of tropes from action movies and novels with none of the gravitas or setup found in good examples. >villain has a plan>good guy dies at the beginning (we're supposed to think CIA is a good guy because he's a glownigger)>enhanced interrogation is le good>villain is sort of a revolutionary with real motives, long history of fighting loose cannons like CIA(they just gave up on this one)>villain commits le violent crime and gets away with it due to elaborate mechanical geniusEven the joke is a copy of better films, I can't think of any specific examples but the timing and sound are supposed to have a dramatic pause or string note for Bane to deliver his line. It's just amateur shit.
>>220765261>like why wouldn't you do that?Because falling out of a plane while consciously is certainly scarier, shooting them is far less threatening and negates the whole point of holding them at the door
>>220765407but you're suggesting that you're willing to kill them if they don't talk, how you do it or if it's "overkill" is not going to be a material decider on whether or not the terror tactic worksalso maybe he shot the guy in the gut and dropped him from like 80 feet onto the grassy hills below, ensuring the guy would survive the fall but in immense pain while also handcuffed, blindfolded, and fatally bleeding outthese "captured" mercs literally weren't even supposed to be there, the CIA would just kill them and dump them if they were of no use
>>220764987No, it makes perfect sense given the context. CIA had a high value target in his custody and wanted to quickly know essential details about hos medical condition, most likely so he could torture Bane without the risk of killing him. >if I pull that off, will you die? A perfectly valid question. >it would be extremely painful. A perfectly valid answer. >you're a big guy.Now that CIA has the key piece of medical knowledge he was looking for, he switches to interrogation mode and threatens to remove the mask, just to hurt Bane>for uHere we see Bane masterfully turn the tables. Removal of the mask, or simply the threat of doing so wasn't going to be painful for Bane. It was going to be painful for CIA. Bane was in rhetorical control of the interrogation the whole time, just as he was in control of the plan to crash the plane. And of course, there is the humorous double meaning concealed within the verbal exchange: not only was it about to be "extremely painful" - "for you (CIA)", but Bane was also observing that he was physically "a big guy" - "for you (CIA)". In an interview, the actor Tom Hardy explicitly stated that he delivered the line with the loaded double meaning.
>>220765470>maybe he shot the guy in the gut and dropped him from like 80 feet onto the grassy hills belowI would think there's a higher risk the guy would lose consciousness from shock or bloodloss before hitting the ground
>>220764525CIA should have become a regularly appearing character in every DC film like Stan Lee in marvel
Are we still on this? He's saying he's bigger than CIA. That's it. >if I take off that mask, would you die?>it would be extremely painful That's the end of one exchange. >you're a big guy >for (compared to) you That's the other exchange, they've moved on to a new subject.
>>220765492anon, it doesn't matter at all what happens to the guy who gets thrown out of the plane it's merely that he was, and you're next, unless you talk
>>220765514Fuckin a manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utopsn1AjZA&list=RDutopsn1AjZA&start_radio=1
>>220765543It is certainly a life threatening situation but the setup is nevertheless puzzling
>>220765180If he had said “I’m with the CIA” or “I’m from the agency” it would have sounded a lot more natural but even then, field agents don’t go around telling every Tom, Dick and Harry they’re with the CIA. They would just say they’re from the US government, or whatever third party shell company they’re using as cover.
>Kom Susser Tod starts playing
>>220765540but CIA is taller than bane
>>220765565Based on his actions, safe to assume he's just another criminal whose supervillain name is CIA.
>>220765567link the video?
>>220765226>>220765261He didn't shoot at the mercenary1) the gun misfired (SIG)2) he was hunting fowl3) he was shooting at a UFO4) he was dogfighting Noshur Viverse5) CIA snuck onboard (hence the lack of his name on the flight plan) and stole a coworker's gun, what is in agency speech called A Hired Gun. The gun was however an undercover double agent working for the Masketta man, alerting Bane to CIA faking the ejection of the Mercenary from Wreckage Brother and then refused to fire during the interrogation of the second mercenary, causing CIA to panic and question the mercenary's large stash of Loyal Tea which he could not afford on the meager wage of a hire gun.
>>220765219>There's a lot of memes about it>I know...
>>220765540But CIA has a bigger cock than Bane so this theory doesn't hold.
>>220765560the dialogue sucksthe seal team 6 guys or whatever the fuck CIA's goon squad is supposed to be do nothing at all when shit hits the fanCIA man prances around the plane's cabin like a fag the whole timebane's dialogue is awful, and so is the voicethe idea that bane explicitly needed pavel but the plan was to have his guys mount the plane and blind fire through the windows is astoundingly stupidthere's literally no reason to do then entire bait and switch, bane wants to frame it as just a crash and the guy he leaves is supposed to be pavel, but everyone would be full of rifle rounds and they'd have the DNA results back within the day, which would be totally necessary if fake pavel's body was so destroyed that you couldn't visibly tell that it was a man who is like 30 years than pavel is, but it's more likely that it wouldn't be that hard to tellit's not even really necessary for him to want to cover his tracks given his plan for gotham is so stupid no one would've predicted it
>>220765688>But CIA has a bigger cock than BaneFor you
how does the blood thing even work
>>220765261>>220765470you're baiting right? no person would survive that fall 99 of 100 times
>>220765753It doesn't, they just didn't like the guy
>>220765753Pavel was exposed to nuclear energies his whole life, his blood was literally radioactive, they'd be able to check for that.
>>220765766yes they fucking would, retard
>>220765126it was a pun anon...
>>220765624I can only find part one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy0SEaUHlSEHopefully someone saved the other two because video sites and search engines are going full zog.
>>220765793except the first thing they'd do is look up and see that pavel was born in like fucking 1962 or whatever and that this mystery corpse of a 30 year old man is not him
>>220765809He was aging prematurely due to the radiation.
>>220765486here's your upvote good sir!
>>220765820so then he definitely wouldn't look like some youngish arab man in decent physical shape
>>220765802https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuKiexDyxQParts 2 and 3 were blocked on youtube due to copyright claims so here they are now.Part 2: https://streamable.com...Part 3: https://streamable.com...
>>220765850can't stop the signal
>>220765795is this you? >>>/pol/535794422
>>220765795anon, you're severely underestimating how tall that really is.It's a fucking plane for god's sake.
>>220765921>>220765985why don't you look up how high this actually is and how easy it is to survive if you don't land on your headI'll give you a hint, it's close to a 100% survival rate
When the meme first started I tried looking up the scene on Youtube and I thought I was only finding meme fandubs because I did not believe they would make Bane actually sound like that
>>220766094I'm quite confident when the meme first started you wouldn't find this scene on youtube.
>>220766034Are you pretending to be retarded? A 100 feet fall is absolutely lethal, you'd need a miracle to survive that.
>>220766118they released the plane scene in advance of the movie, like 8 months early attached to I Am Legend and shit, the cam rips would've been easy to find though I can't remember if I ever saw it
>>220766155he's baiting.
did anyone else find it poetic that TDK suggested Batman and Joker would do their dance forever, when it was actually CIA and Bane that would dance forever?
What's hilarious to me is the plan would have completely failed had the CIA pilots turned the plane 15 degress to the left or right.The plan relied entirely on the CIA pilots being blind mongs
>You’re a big guy>For youSo one interpretation was this was a self own? Like “I’m only big by your standards.”
>>220765850>Part 2: https://streamable.com...>Part 3: https://streamable.com...Uh?
>>220764525it's the bane voiceit sticks out like a sore thumb for the entire movie and sounds like a shitty youtube video effect
>>220766296There will be people who've survived falling 100 feet
>>220765795what a great picture of the Wreckage Brother
>>220766468There are some, but it's a very short list>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_falls_survived_without_a_parachuteIncludes Bear Grylls and some chinese guy that survived a 108 feet fall in the fucking year 559 just to be executed by starvation later
>>220766034>100%more like 5% if its less high than it really looks
>>220766619>Bear Grylls>"At 16,000 feet, his fall is one of the highest falls survived without a parachute."Damn.... from that height, he probably had time to take off his flight suit and drink his own piss on the way down.
>>220764525some executive told them to make occupy the villain so they botched the entire movie on purpose
>>220765219>I wish someone had directed me
>>220764525This scene? The whole movie is full of awkward cuts.
>>220764525For you.
...........FOR YOU?!
>>220767066>click the link provided by wikipedia themselves >His canopy ripped at 1600 feet (500 m), partially opening, causing him to fall and land on his parachute pack on his back, which partially crushed three vertebrae. Grylls later said of the accident, “I should have cut the main parachute and gone to the reserve but thought there was time to resolve the problem”typical wikishit even if it's still impressive to survive that
>>220766034You should go prove this theory right now and livestream it
>>220764897It would be extremely painful. Ftfuuuu
>>220765049Well it resulted in the only kino scene in the movie? It's basically anglo Shane Black without irony.
What movie?
>>220765180what's funny is dr. pavel was revealed to be a mossad asset after he died.
>>220768876No shit, why do you think he's going FULL RETARD with the odyssey? Meme impact.
>>220764525TDKR is unironically my favorite in Bale Batman trilogy
Doctor Pavel I'm CIA
>>220765540No. Tom Hardy confirmed the innuendo and appreciated /tv/ in an AMA
>>220764525CIA I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL CRASH YOUR PLANE, I'LL SIGN YOUR FLIGHT PLAN!
>>220765795>ZS-NVB Zionists Succeed - Never Versus Bane
>>220766338bane remote skyjacking the plane was part of the plan. similar to what actually occurred on 9/11
>>220768891Big Guy 4: You
>>220767145kwab
>>220764525>this sceneDid you mean Nolan's entire filmography?
>>220769847don't talk about Insomnia that way bitch
>>220764525this scene is the ultimate IQ test for the audience
how did Bruce Wayne return to gotham so quicckly after he escaped the desert prison?
>>220770001He's batman
It's very gayA CIA has the biggest terrorist in the world in his sights and later finds out he's got him in custody on the planeAnd he hits on him.
>>220765226I would have stood up in the theater, clapped and shouted BRAVO NOLAN if pic related happened
>>220770043yea but he didnt have a car, no money and no plane and no phone to call someonealso why does that prison have no guards? they just leave everyone in a hole?all it takes is one guy dropping a rope
>>220765226If he shouted, CIA could just throw him out for real. CIA was being a super duper good guy though, like yeah it's scary that the government might illegally black bag, torture, and murder you in a foreign country, but it just looks scary and he's really the good guy.
He's cia
>>220765049Based and sovl
>>220767192Why is it only this one that became a meme then?
>>220771461Everyone did a 720 and reverse moonwalked out of the theatre after the scene
>>220765486I know this isn't ChatGPT, but AI has cheapened high-end autism like this a great deal.
>>220765555>>220765624>>220765802>>220765850Epic batman videos
>>220771461Blood magic, this scene was playing when that theater in Colorado was shot up
>>220765190Yes, this always struck me as one of the more bizarre lines of the whole scene. Of course, the answer is that Nolan thought it would be a cool way of creating a mit of mystery around Bane. He was wrong.
>>220772271They had to establish that Bane had a mask so it was normalized for the audience. Otherwise it might look silly that this dude has steampunk goggles over his mouth and everyone else acts like its totally normal. Adolf Hitler called this "the big lie"
>>220771610And when gordon circles sandy hook on the map
>>220772362Who doesn't expect theatrical looking villains in a fucking Batman movie!?
That scene where bane jumps and punches batman fist or something
unironically nolan's best and only good scene or sequence. hope supergirl bombs only because gunn said hardy will not reprise bane in the announced bane deathstroke team up movie. hardy is bane. i can tell he has struggled afterward because it's difficult coming down from such a height literally.
>>220764525Because you might not realize this and the previous movie might have made you forgetbut these movies are in factin FACTbased on comic booksfor like teenagersSo this scene helps remind the audience they are watching over the top fiction to prepare their brains for when they watch a plane get dissected piece by piece in midair with no problems as being ok
>>220772271>>220765190CIA wants to know why Bane where's the mask because intelligence reports speculated the mask keeps Bane alive and/or makes Bane super strong. It is CIA's job to gather intel including through black ops and secret interrogation methods.
>>220770073Guantanamo Bay "terrorists" were raped and forced to wear bags over heads
>>220769027thanks for le debunking the misinfo, gyatt skippity!you should go back to the cool website where you can upboat le AMAs with celebs and go there and don't ever come back
>Bane calls out CIA's bluff about throwing the prisoners out of the plane>but believes CIA only included one prisoner in the flight plan for some reason which is why he says they expect one of them in the wreckage???????????
>>220764897
>>220764897TIL
>>220772472Ahh but this is the Nolan saga, not like those cringe Batman films with their silliness. Everything is much more raw and real which is why the opening scene references Abu Ghraib and CIA black sites in a positive light.
>>220771524LETTING THE DAYS GO BY
>>220772362>Adolf Hitler called this "the big lie"4u
>>220765079There's also they expect one of us on the wreckage brother. Bane says that because CIA threatened to kill all of them except the one who talked, but it turned out to be a bluff, which Bane also knows. So either they expect all of them or none of them. It's just nonsense all around.
>>220774911Maybe Bane was convinced that CIA called Ittin even though he didn't shoot a man or throw him out of a plane. It's possible CIA was just a loose canon who filed a flight plan for one but intended to show up with three, or perhaps he planned on shooting one out of a plane at some point.
>>220765049>actually opening the door in mid flightSomeone needs to tell Christopher Nolan that special effects and post production exist
>>220764525Is the scene writing more comically awkward than the alleged 9/11 flight plane logs? >Baby. It's a frame That call was real but the flight attendant was being held at a makeshift black site by a female operator you can even hear in the background.
>>220764525>What is the real world reason all the writing in this scene is comically awkward?It was all done in one take, no CGI. Real planes and practical affects.That guy literally got shot and thrown out of the plane.
>>220765850>https://streamable.com/twbcdz>10show boring, why do I click this so often>30slets fuckin go
>>220775515>even uses the right Madoka runesJesus, what a masterpiece. Why does Baneposting create such inspired OC?
