>movies switch to being mostly shot on digital>all of a sudden all movies are asswas it a coincidence or was the switch to digital cameras related to the decline in film quality?
>>220766948It’s all just correlation with the rise of smartphones, like a billion other data points symbolizing the shitification
>>220766948It's not the camera's fault that the writing sucks
>>220766948Coincidence.Films are getting shitter because of generations of nepotism compounding on each other and boomers refusing to retire or advocate fresh talent, causing the entire medium to stagnate.
>>220767023in retrospect, internet was a mistake
>>220766948Older film tech weeded out idiots and retards since it was harder to master. Now any moron can make a movie using digital tech, and it all sucks because it requires much less talent.
>>220767108you don't really have any data to support there being more nepotism, nor is there any data to support the idea of films being worse than they were
>>220766948I think there could be a positive correlation. Shooting digital means that it's easier to edit later and you get as many takes as you want because you're eating through film with each one. Both of these could easily result in lower quality because less thought and planning has to go into the entire production.
>>220767056If kinda is. For if the movie requires the concerted efforts of dozens/hundreds of people, then the writing better be good enough to justify the time and effort of those people to put the screenplay on film. If you can just half ass and still get remotely coherent shots, then the writing can also be half ass.
>>2207669482007 really was the last good year for everything
>>220767056Most good movies were adapted from novels. Today's lit industry only publishes women who write femporn, hacks who write genreslop, and non-Whites who write racial diatribes. You're not getting any modern Godfathers, Jurassic Parks, LOTR's, Fight Clubs, Blade Runners, or Jaws because the types of writers who wrote those novels are locked out of the industry.
>>220767056>>220767108>>220767179we have WGA stats. most writers now are nonwhite and or women. that's why all movies and tv shows suck dick. there hasn't been a white male millennial writer on vulture's writer's list since 2014. women and minorities can't write
>>220766948It is directly related, but filmschool pseuds will deny this to their dying breath.Digital processing obviously helped distribution, but replacing celluloid film with all digital (essentially youtube videos) was a mistake.
>>2207669481920s director: I want to tell a story through film2020s director: I must maximize return on investment
in order for >>220767298 (non-whites and women) to make movies >>220767307 (film) had to go.
>>220767307>>220767328>>220767341You're all partially right, but I also think that a lot of the talent is going into online/content creation shit instead of hollywood now. More accessible, better chance of success.
>>220767298funny that the average imdb rating has gone up the last decade though
>>220767298>most writers now are nonwhite and or womenShow me proof of this(pointing to a handful of cherry-picked films isn't a statistical proof)
>>220766948>90 IQ thread
>>220766948I don't watch movies shot on digital
>>220767341Yes. It's easy when you have infinite free takes and aren't burning extra money because you screwed up a shot. Less original stories because no white writers. Franchise IP made by committee. Fix-it-in-post mentality. This laziness crept in and convinced execs it was easy enough for brownoids and women to do. >a lot of the talent is going into online/content creation shit instead of hollywood now.Yeah because the average Joe Rogan episode where he bullshits about nothing for 3 hours gets more views than your average Hollywood movie.
>>220766948You change the process, you change the outcome. No surprise, really. I swear the same thing happened with literature.
>>220767432You sound ugly and stupid.
Roman Polanski is going to be the last good director to die.
>>220767383WB gave that retard Mindy Kaling like $300m to race-swap Velma in Scooby Doo. You'd have to be a drooling retard to not see this trend by now.
>>220767432you sound handsome and brilliant
>>220767275And the few man books are shit like Ready Player One or Dungeon Crawler Carl.
>>220767474So you have one example for your proof, after saying this was easy to prove because we have the wga stats?Have I got that right?
>>220767023this dude takes noah smith seriously lmao
As a photographer who started on film, adopted digital, then has switched back and forth depending on my mood or the project, one thing I've noticed is that I tend to take a lot more care with my shots when shooting film. I'm sure that doesn't translate 1:1 to movies, but shooting film feels like a much more considered process that I take more time with. I noticed myself doing this years ago and have since tried to slow myself down and be more considered with digital, but subconsciously I just do it naturally with film and have to force it with digital.It wouldn't surprise me at all if something similar is going on with directors.
>>220767474has the average rating of a movie gone down though?
>>220767516did you not look at the picture i posted, dumbfuck?
Yes, it is too easy to make films now so craftsmanship is falling. Used to be you've have to be talented just to make a semi-watchable movie, now anyone can get decent visuals and sound without trying
>>220767381>>220767179IMDB/critic ratings are worthlessthey think absolute slop like black panther is good because it has blacks in it. the fucking first Pirates movies has like a 73% on rotten tomatoes even though it's better than any film that's come out in yearswomen and minorities just can't make good movies>>220767383go pull up the WGA diversity stats, retard. they are only hiring nonwhites, women and jews and nonwhites and women can't write. it's the same reason why there is a "competency crisis" in basically every industry. because big companies have been trying to shut out white men since 2008 at the latest and instead have been hiring women and minorities who all suck at their jobs
>>220766948what movies created this rise?
>>220767474>Velma>created by Charlie Grandy (white male)>Mindy Kaling isn't credited as a writer on any episodeslmao nice example retard
>>220767516>one example for your proofThose are official Writers Guild of America union numbers you retarded clown. You literaly cannot make a movie or show without their writers, unless you are prepared to make your movie withour all certifiwd blue collars and most production companies.
>>220767537>>220767585Your graph is not an extensive list of writers in hollywood and it takes 5 seconds of reading to see that.
think you guys are focusing too much on filming and not as much on theatersit's a lot easier to send a theater a terabyte drive with a movie on it then have physical prints that needs someone to work the projectorinternational box office became more important and story telling suffers if you need something understable internationally and acceptable to screen in china
>>220767565Roger Deakins was allowed to cook
>>220767568Oh, we are doing the thing where leftards deny what most leftards openly celebrate as victory.
>>220767404seethe, thirdie
>>220767568>leave da talentless hindi whore alone!!!
>>220767474are the movies made by men still good? can't we watch them and force hollywoo to make decent films?
>>220767474and then "men" they do hire are probably huge pussies now, so it's not the same as a man from 2011
>>220767441that's because companies don't publish white men anymorehttps://www.compactmag.com/article/the-vanishing-white-male-writer/and women and minorities can't write good stories
>>220767516are you unable to read? why would the writers union stats be fake?
>>220766948
Tape?
>>220767534>no you need to trust the critics. the critics never lie and are never paid off
>>220767565>Several prominent 2017 films were shot on celluloid, including major blockbusters, period pieces, and auteur-driven projects. Notable examples include Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk (shot on 65mm and 35mm film), Greta Gerwig’s Lady Bird (Super 16mm), Edgar Wright's Baby Driver (35mm), and Paul Thomas Anderson’s Phantom Thread (35mm). gayI but it looks like a bunch of notable directors all released movies shot on film that year
>>220767593it's literally the writers union you gay retard
>>220767719do you really not know the difference between film and magnetic tape?
>>220767596this. yuropeans like polish, eyetalians, poortugese and greeks will not watch movies unless they are filled with blacks, faggots, troons, joss wedon writing and marvel shit
>>220767636nonwhite men don't make good movies
>>220767690there's the audience and imdb score thoughi guess box office has gone down but maybe people are just watching more tv series/movies on netflix
>>220767689VHS. Video tape isn't film, it's like closer to a hard drive since it's stored on magnetic tape. it's why we can take tv shows and movies from the 60s and make them HD but then something like deep space 9 which was shot on VHS looks like ass and can't be upscaled unless you use AI
>>220767525Underrated. Now extrapolate this to the entire production. You can't change my mind that having a big ol' film camera at the center of it all doesn't have a psychological effect on the film. Surely it's not a central acusatio, but it's a definite correlation.
>>220767719it was a very kino year that onehttps://youtu.be/TeDfgUvyKHk?si=Ki5R316_bWTQ1CGk
>>220767750the fucking orange line is film you gay retard, the gray line is magnetic tape>>220767778and all of those movies have terrible audience scores. also movies didn't just go down. 2025 was the worst year for movies at the box office since 1998 and that's not inflation adjusted. if you inflation adjust it it was one of the worst years of all time
>>220767794TV was never shot on VHS, VHS is a home video format. TV used professional video tape systems like Betacam. Or even Quadruplex 2" analogue video up until the 70s iirc (or even 80s).But in this case tape probably refers to digital video which was recorded on tape like DV (think of a professional version of miniDV which was a popular home video format in the 00s).
>>220767823all of which movies? i'm talking about movies in general and whether people actually rate them lowerwith regards to the box office, maybe people are just watching stuff at home more?
>>220767852>>220767794why would it spike in 2008?
>>220767852>TV was never shot on VHSit was, but usually not national networkthink twilight zone is most known show with tape episodes>>220767823and the orange line zig zags nigger, while tap is actually rising
>>220767852>TV was never shot on VHS,deep space 9 was shot on magnetic tape. most soap operas after a certain year were shot on magnetic tape. all of the American scenes in power rangers were shot on magnetic tape>>220767884there are a ton of movies and TV shows that have come out in the last decade that have like a 99% critic score and like a 5% audience score. vidya is the same way, the better the score IGN gives a game the worse the game is
>>220767911most people didn't have digital video cameras but DV tape cameras with those mini tapes were pretty cheap and accessible and would have been more accessible than 16mm or super 8 by 2008. like some or all of 28 days later was shot on magnetic DV tape>>220767941he was asking why the orange line randomly went up in 2017 you fucking retard
>>220767911Probably early digital HD video systems which still used tape.>>220767941>it was, but usually not national networkNo, this is literally wrong and retarded. VHS didn't even exist back then, it was introduced in 1976. Until the 1970s the only video system used professionally in television was Quadruplex. Shows like Twilight Zone were shot on film and not taped on video.Stop talking about things you don't know.
Ok, so movies like Star Wars Episode 2 were shot on HDCAM magnetic tape.Which is why they look like crap today and looked like crap back in 2002.
>>220768141>>220768138the American scenes from power rangers were shot on magnetic tape. it's why every scene in the command center looks like complete ass
>>220767612>we're doing the thing where you point out that my false conjecture is demonstrably not trueyes?
>>220768054>deep space 9 was shot on magnetic tapeVHS is not synonymous with "magnetic tape". It's a specific format, there have been dozens over the years.Deep Space Nine was not taped. It was shot on film. Like almost all single-camera fiction was on US television up until the 00s/10s. Lots of multi-camera (ie sitcoms) was also shot on film like King of Queens or Two and a half Men.Holy shit you people need to stop talking about these things you don't understand.
>>220768166Ok but that was a shitty show literally bottom of the barrel. What's your point?
>>220768194soap operas were also shot on magnetic tape so they could turn around episodes quicker and those all look like complete ass tooyou said no tv shows were shot on magnetic tape
>>220767669>>220767736I didn't say there were fake.They're clearly wga stats for tv shows. This ignores every single film.They're also clearly stats purely by title across tv shows, not by credits per episode.So if a show has 8 writers and 10 episodes and 6 of those episodes are written by 4 white guys while the other 4 are written by women/minorities, these stats would say there was a 50/50 split between the two groups despite white men writing the majority of the episodes.>inb4 kvetching about how that doesn't matterAdditionally, those same stats clearly show that white men are still executive producers or showrunners in over 70% of situations. Showrunners aren't credited as staff writers because they're show runners, going back to my point about episode credits themselves.>tldr; learn to read
>>220768225>you said no tv shows were shot on magnetic tapeNo, I did not say that.
>>220768054>there are a ton of movies and TV shows that have come out in the last decade that have like a 99% critic score and like a 5% audience score. vidya is the same way, the better the score IGN gives a game the worse the game isyeah but has the average audience score gone down on RT? or gone down on IMDB?
>>220767056That's true. But there is a direct correlation between the laziness of modern filmmakers and the general lack of quality found in human beings (who make these shitty movies) born after a certain point.
>>220766948Your premise is flawed. It´s the industry that´s gone to shit, not movies. It may be a subtle difference but the business of making movies and the practice of making movies are not the same. Big studios just became so big that in order to maintain the massive structures they are forced to play it safe and focus on big budget IPs rather than on author films. Additionally since the way media is consumed has changed authors can no longer profit from DVD sales or rentals which has lead to some type of movies no longer being made (or maybe they are being made but lack the budget to advertise or reach streaming so they go unnoticed) As for digital, digital is a tool. Many would say it´s a tool that democratized the art. After all it´s never been cheaper to make movies. An affordable cinema camera can be bought for as cheap as 1200 dollars, an affordable good editing and post production suit is 300 dollars, CGI can be done entirely free, publishing can be done for free as well. LED lights are far smaller and easier to store and transport so you don´t even need to rent a truck these days. A regular sized car can see most things through. You even have affordable drones so cranes are a thing of the past as well. But you know, tools can be misused. Digital won´t make a good harmonic and meaningful narrative composition for you, it won´t light for you either. It will allow to tweak things later in post later though so it does allow second and third rate hacks that can´t get things right on set some breathing room. In that sense you are correct, but again, that´s technology being misused. In the hands of capable skilled people digital is merely the creative freedom that comes from not having to suck big hollywood suit dick.
>>220768248>no that doesn't count because reasons reeeethe WGA stats literally show that things are written by women and minorities and women and minorities suck at writing. it's why china and israel are pushing DEI, because it destroys all American industries because only white men are good at things>>220768258yes you did, retard>>220768301who knows. the average film has gotten worse since both sinners and obaa lost money since they were both ass but you are going to pretend they were good because blacks are in them>>220768350digital also looks like ass compared to filmstock
>>220768301>yeah but has the average audience score gone down on RT? or gone down on IMDB?To add to that, rt obviously didn't exist/wasn't a thing before like 20 years ago.So any films from before that with rt scores are inherently skewed by nostalgia bias and fanbase brigading.If I watched a shitty flick in 2001, I'm not waiting 10 years and then rushing online to vote how bad it was. If I loved it, I might go online to try and spread the word though. Especially if I'm frequently rewatching it.I don't think you can fairly ascertain differences in quality through this
>>220768403so you legit think modern slop, which is unwatchable is better than shit from 20 years ago?
>>220768350>As for digital, digital is a tool. Many would say it´s a tool that democratized the art. After all it´s never been cheaper to make movies.This is such a dumb argument. Budgets for mainstream movies haven't gone down. There isn't a flood of high-quality low-budget productions like there was in the 50s and 60s.>Digital won´t make a good harmonic and meaningful narrative composition for you, it won´t light for you either.>In that sense you are correct, but again, that´s technology being misused.So what's even your argument? Basically it seems like you're agreeing with the>film filtered out the amateurscrowd.Yeah of course you can still do good things without the filter. But the filter is still good because it prevents the bad things.
>>220768350>Big studios just became so big that in order to maintain the massive structures they are forced to play it safe and focus on big budget IPs rather than on author films.I think it's more piracy and losing money that made them merge and focus on the safe, big big budget IP films. Just my 2 cents
>>220768394>yes you did, retardWhere? Give quote
>>220768423I think that you probably have to look at data rather than assuming things are worse now and that you're not unconsciously biased in any way
>>220768394>I'm too dumb to follow a coherent paragraphCool, seethe about how you're a victim some more
>>220768423This such a retarded strawman.You have to be a fucking idiot not to recognise that there was slop 20+ years ago. You also have to be an idiot to not recognise that kino is still made today.All I said is that you can't accurately map it statistically due to biases in the way audience scores are recorded. Be less fucking stupid.
>>220767911all-digital workflows were still rare in 2008 because storage was so expensive and because studios were freaked out by the idea of something just being zeros and ones. purpose-built digital cinema cameras like the panavision genesis and sony f35 had been released by this point but they still recorded to tape and didn't get solid state drives until years after their initial release
>>220768394>the average film has gotten worse since both sinners and obaa lost money since they were both ass but you are going to pretend they were good because blacks are in themnot me i only enjoy blacks in my porn
>>220768454it was streaming more than piracy>>220768468read the thread yourself, faggot>>220768491the fucking data shows that 2025 was the worst box office year, not accounting for inflation, since 1998. imdb scores aren't a reliable metric. isn't black panther like the top imdb film and like half of the top 100 were from the past 10 years which can't possibly be true since there hasn't been a good film in 10 years so it's not a reliable data point>>220768496saar, we are not making the films worse saar! we need to stop hiring white men saar!the DEI shit isn't even a conspiracy. the WGA is literally bragging about doing it you gay retard>>220768533there isn't any kino made today. that's the problem. everything made today is fucking unwatchable slop, but since you are a 60 iq polish third worlder you think blacks and marvel movies are kino and you can't stop clapping at faggot representationgo watch older movies, they are objectively better
>>220768617yuro post
>>220768630>read the thread yourself, faggotI accept your concession.
>>220768630>there isn't any kino made today. that's the problem.Imagine genuinely being this fucking stupid
>>220768491>>220768533The industry itself admits they are collapsing. Deadline articles about them losing billions, massive layoffs and mergers. Striking writers and crew who got fired crying apocalypse every day on reddit. You need to qualify for diversity rules to win Best Picture. Everything is shot on digital and put on streamslop services. The big prestige movies shot on celluloid like Nolan's Odyssey are hideously race swapped to an insulting degree. You are just a willfully blind moron.
>>220768630>it was streaming more than piracynot really since they can get money from that and don't need to merge to keep profits>the fucking data shows that 2025 was the worst box office yearone year and also that doesn't take account for people deciding to watch films at home
>>220768677name one (1) kino from the last five years.
>>220768630>the fucking data shows that 2025 was the worst box office year, not accounting for inflation, since 1998This is not true.The worst year in modern box office history was 2020, when global and domestic ticket sales plummeted by over 80% due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Excluding the pandemic era, 1997 is widely considered the worst modern year for box office revenue, dropping to the lowest totals of the late 20th century.The global box office closed 2025 at approximately $33.55 billion, marking a nearly 12% increase from 2024.At least look up your facts before blindly stating them.
>>220768720One Battle After Another>inb4 chud seething
>>220768741sure, sweaty.
>>220768720It Was Just An Accident
>>220768668nope, go back and read what you posted, retard>>220768677there isn't you gay retard. everyone doesn't jerk off to gay blacks like you do. there's a reason why 2025 had record low box office numbers
>>220768685if it just goes to streaming that doesn't mean the movies are dying, it can be that people just watch at home more now. also a couple of companies laying people off doesn't prove anything>>220768706>not really since they can get money from that and don't need to merge to keep profitsactually i take this back. it could be streaming too
>>220768720Benedetta
>>220768741>movie that was so terrible it lost money>goodyurohomo post>>220768706>not really since they can get money from thatthey really don't get any money per view from being on netflix. not compared to what they were getting off DVD sales>one year and also that doesn't take account for people deciding to watch films at homeit's the most recent year and it was a record low because every movie that came out was ass
>>220768761>It Was Just An Accidentoh, your brown lmao. now this thread makes sense!
>>220768763>there's a reason why 2025 had record low box office numbersImagine confidently stating this again after being proven wrong (right here: >>220768723)
>>220768754This is definitely the most vulgar movie to win Best Picture. And EEAAO had buttplugs and dildos.
>>220768783>Benedetta>verhoeven gooner smut about lesbian nunsyeah, we live in hell.
>>220766948Netflixization of cinema
>>220768720Napoleon
>>220768763I said>Shows like Twilight Zone were shot on film and not taped on video.Which is correct. Single-camera fiction was almost exclusively shot on film. Multi-camera fiction like soap operas and sitcoms were often taped.You can consider yourself utterly humiliated. Leave this board and never come back.
>>220768818yeah movies suck now, we know.>>220768832horrendously awful, and ugly too.
>>220768720Killers of the Flower Moon
>>220768723>>220768807>muh global box office noninflation adjusted >The U.S. domestic box office for 2025 finished at approximately billion, marking a slow but slight increase over the billion recorded in 2024. Box Office MojoWhile the year managed to narrowly outperform 2024, it fell far short of pre-pandemic averages, which routinely saw yearly North American totals exceed billion to billion. Varietywow, it was a historically bad year, like I said, retard
>>220768803>it's the most recent year and it was a record low because every movie that came out was assand you're ignoring that the deficit might have been made up by streaming. why do you keep ignoring what i am saying? are you on uppers?
>>220768720Top Gun Maverick
>>220768862>muh noble sabages >muh ebil whitey>for the ten millionth time>director comes on at the end to literally say the message in case it didn't hammer you over the head enoughfuck off
>>220768775there hasn't been a good movie in a decade, retard>>220768761saar!
>>220768869>a historically bad year,You apparently don't know what words mean so I'm guessing you're a triggered esl retard who struggles with basic comprehension in your native language, let alone in English?
>>220768888>let's prime the public to support bombing irancongrats, you didn't even know you were part of the psy-op!
>>220768848you said nothing was shot on magnetic tape. power rangers and soap operas were, retardo. I accept your concession>>220768862lmao
>>220768720The Testimony of Anne Lee
>>220768862>>220768893>>220768920you guys liked woke Last of the Mohicans tho>>220768895>there hasn't been a good movie in a decade, retardgreat argument, care it up with some facts?
>>220768872It wasn't due to steaming. people went and saw the anniversary sing alongs for sound of music. it was down because there was nothing worth seeing>>220768914I'm American. you are clearly a third worlder form like italy or estona based on how much you like brown films like obaa, sinners and it was an accident, thirdie
>>220768934>a fucking musical
>>220768915bombing iran was based. now the enemy nations of india and yurop don't have gas>>220768947the last best picture film I watched was birdman because all of the more recent ones were ass
>>220768720Tetris
>>220768920>you said nothing was shot on magnetic tapeBro you lost, accept it and stop making shit up. It's really sad and pathetic.
>>220768976>somehow turn boring ass tetris game into a "russia bad" movie
>>220768976Tetris was a good flick but not kino.
>>220768720Rebel Moon
>>220766948are the film spikes at the end from Nolan?
>>220769042>Rebel Moon
>>220769017Go to bed Ivan
>>220769007you got btfo'd and now you are coping and gay
>>220768720Wolfs
>>220766948>>220767023Coincidence. In 2011 after Occupy Wallstreet newspapers started talking about racism and whiteness tondivide the people.
>>220769057nolan made a movie in 2017 but so did like 3 or 4 other directors. baby driver was shot on 35mm and came out in 2017
>>220769097tell me the plot of this movie without googling.quote one line.
>>220769094You can't even quote me saying what you're making up. What a sad little faggot you are.
>>220768720Anatomy of a Fall
>>220769152>franco femslopvery low testosterone. yeah i'm thinking 1999 was way better.
>>220769126>tell me the plot of this movie without googling.Easy. Two lone-wolf 'fixers' are forced to work together. Hijinks ensue>quote one line.A lot trickier. A good film shouldn't be defined by how quotable it is.
>>220767613No, but I see.
>>220768566thanks
>>220766948This also coincides with when Peter Weir stopped making movies, though I don't think he's mentioned digital as a reason for leaving the biz.
>>220769178That’s clearly someone who saw it and acknowledges it’s a movie you’ll completely forget the instant the credits roll.
>>220769135I'm not going to spoon feed you you retarded ESL queer
>>220768454Piracy is almost irrelevant because pirates are not customers to begin with. You can´t think of every pirate as a potential customer. >>220768450>There isn't a flood of high-quality low-budget productions like there was in the 50s and 60s.Do you know that for a fact? Polanski still films, Verhoven still films, Woody Allen still filmed until a few years ago but unless you were in the indy scene you wouldn´t even hear of their latest productions until a few years after the films had been released. Forget finding them on one of the big streaming services. If that´s the state of things for former big names what chance do you think nameless young authors have? No contacts, no advertising money, tons of competition and festivals, which used to be their one chance at being noticed, appropriated by the Hollywood marketing machine to launch undeserving flicks.
>>220768720Judas and the Black Messiah
>>220769702saar!
>who cares what we write or film we'll just fix it in post>oh fuck we made a whole decade of trash despite spending the most money ever how could this happen
Is it possible that making things easier to film allowed more hacks to become film makers? We're seeing it happen again with AI.
>>220770490It's possible.But then consider the amount of boomer directors who refuse to retire and are just out there making shit. Megalopolis wasn't very long ago.Meanwhile you have youtubers like Curry and Markiplier who are out there making films people actually like. And they never would've been given a 'shot' in the old days
convenience often comes at the cost of character
>>220766948Film produces a nice picture even with mediocre lighting, whereas digital is extremely unforgiving with lacking post-production.That's why Blu-Ray releases of 4:3 tv shows from the 80s and 90s look better than 90% of cinema releases today.
>>220770812Good point. Maybe old directors saw the writing on the wall and just gave up on art. Workaholics used to be a YouTube show. The creators became easy millionaires. Meanwhile someone who wrote on Cheers and Murphy Brown can't get any of his show ideas picked up.
>>220768720>This many replies>Not even one vaguely watchable movieYeah, I'm thinking there aren't any.
>>220769113it has nothing to do with Occupy its the fucking smartphones hitting unbiquitous penetrationOccupy was a bunch of homeless marxist proto-troons have gay-ins by the time society forgot it was still there
democracy is a mistake in pretty much any medium
>>220768720>This many replies>Every one of them kinoYeah, I'm thinking kino is back on the menu or maybe it never left
In the past companies would give money to young filmmakers who were actually interested in film and just let them do what they wanted. Now the corporation makes the film. Same thing in all art forms.
>>220770812>currysaar!
>>220770972its super grim that the young promising talents are pretty much all youtubers who used their fame/money to make horror movies. Not talking about Stuckmann or Markiplier either. Talking about the guy who made Obession and those dudes who made Talk to Me and Bring Her Back.
>>220770972>hollywood shits itself>young boomers get golden opportunity to make whatever the fuck they want to see what will stick>new hollywood is born>boomers immediately pull the ladder up behind them>allow a very small indie scene in the 90s to see if there's more money to be made>young directors like PTA and Fincher's antics when given a mouthpiece tell boomers to never risk letting a young person have that sort of power again>run hollywood into the ground>blame millennials and zoomers
>>220766948Dune was shot digitally then transferred to 35mm film before being scanned back to digital again and it looks great.
>>220771087>duncsaar!
>>220771005>i'm not talking about [people who made bad movies], i'm talking about [bad movies].
