Life after 25
literally me but also life before 25
me since always
>>220784544yeah this. my life has been that way since i was like 19
>>220784435Life after 35 is sweet.You did do your excercises and took care of your health in your twenties, right anons?
Pretty much. Get a wife and kids, shit sucks when your 40 and alone.
>>220784435>mfw turning 25 tomorrow
This is the antidote. When you start pushing yourself to leave your nice, safe goon cave you’ll make friends and discover hobbies and have adventures.>but I don’t have anyone in my life asking me to do stuff in the first placeStart simple and go to the gym regularly. Not to get jacked just to get some movement. When your body starts healing your mind will heal also and everything else will follow.Trust me I used to wallow in self-pity a lot.
>>220784613This anon gets it. 20-30 is pure anxiety, you'll start to mellow by 32, and 35 and onwards is just great. As the anon said, daily exercise will do wonders, and also make sure to eat a well rounded diet.
My life has sucked since high school when I was 13.
>life after 45
>>220784696Grass is always greener on the other side. All my married friends are miserable.
>>220784435My life was improved significantly in my 30’s. Don’t fall for the blackpill.
>>220784435It got bad before 25 desu
>>220784897Kek. This.
>turning 46>wife but no kids>doglife is good anons.
>>220784837This isn’t always the best advice. A good friend of mine relocated to the other side of the country for a job that pays extremely well, but he has no family, no friends, and isn’t dating even after almost two years being in nyc. He's too introverted and timid to just go up to strangers and make friends. He drinks now more than he ever has before. He’s almost forty.
Anons, take dance lessons. Trust me.
>>220784897I mean the truth is that a person won't feel as happy as they feel sad throughout life. Positive feeling is valuable, and value comes from inacessibility. It's just that some people are less miserable around others (because they're parasitic and they need people around them), and others are less miserable alone (because they prefer to rely on themselves)
>>220784897Same. I’m turning 36 next month and still single, but then I think about almost everyone I know who are in relationships, and so many of them suck ass since they have such shitty partners. Makes me feel like life will suck no matter which direction I choose. At least being single comes with some peace.
>>220785076Two years is a short time to become adjusted to a new place, especially when far away from family and friends. Is he still in contact with them? Chances are it will take at least some more years to fully "integrate", even more if he tends to isolate. He should invite some of his old friends over to his new place and go out or something.t. left everything behind 15 years ago and, moved to other side of country and still haven't fully adjusted
>>220785076>leave your comfort zone>but I know this introvert wh-Introversion is a comfort zone.
>>220784613I did stay skinny, but I only recently started exercising. Oh well
>>220784613I was a mess until I was 24. Then I joined the army. I'm not advocating that right now but back 20 years ago that worked. Getting regular exercise and having a mission is really the crux of modern men. Personally, now I like to do wilderness hikes. I haven't gotten into real mountaineering yet but I'm guessing that's next. There is a legit balance between being in your head all the time, being active all the time, and being relaxed all the time. And the only way to get to the top of that pyramid is on a sheltered alpine ridge 11000 feet in the air with zero normies in sight.
Surprisingly decent thread
>>220785022>dog """people"""I only have disdain for you. It's not your baby
>>220785270fuck you nigger. dogs are kings
>>220784897people rush to court a partner they have no chemistry with then act surprised when they're stuck in a loveless marriagemany such cases
>>220785022Omg your heckin pupperino doggy daddy?????
>>220785076>This isn't good advice>I know someone who didn't take it and he is miserableHuh?
>>220785133Its a trade off. There is no silver bullet to happiness, and you will feel dissatisfaction no matter which path you choose.
>>220785320>youranother subhuman brainlet who hates animals. no wonder you have a gf.
>>220785230>I did stay skinnyThat really has nothing to do with it. I was skinny intoy thirties, but because I sat on my ass all through my twenties my heart grew weak. You need regular exercise to keep your cardiovascular systemgoing
>>220784870I am 36 and everything still sucks I’m autistic tho
>>220785188Most haven’t. NYC is too expensive and time consuming for most people to travel to it seems. I saw him twice. I know his ex gf, who he left behind due to relocation, visits him regularly. I think she saw him like 5x now. They FaceTime every now and then apparently, watch movies remotely together, etc. He likes the money of course, but he genuinely hates nyc. Anytime I ask him what his plans are, to stay or come back home, he consistently says he doesn’t know
>>220785352OMG I just took my hecken doggo to the doggy daddy park you guise I love being an effing doggy daddy and I have my doggo mommy toooooo!!!
>>220784897im happily married
>>220784435Need hobbies other than media consumption. Your dopamine and serotonin are out of whack from lack of exercise, vidya and gooning
>>220784897>All my married friends are miserableSurvivorship bias.You ONLY see your friends when they are miserable.They don't invite you to watch whenever they are happy or call you "hey, I'm happy!".
>>220785422browns like this is why its great to get your gf a big dog. if she walks around with it, they'll get disgusted and not try to rape her like they usually would.
>>220785408Maybe he should try to find like-minded people. I'm sure he has hobbies or interests and NYC is big enough. Try to enjoy his time a bit there and earn enough money to eventually return home and live comfortably. As >>220785236 pointed out, men need a mission. This seems like a good enough one to me. He really needs to start having some fun, can't be ruining yourself with alcohol. I did it too tho, I get it. Idk man, he needs to get his priorities straight, I guess. Money isn't really a healthy reason, unless it eventually gets used for something healthy.
>>220785304Gf puts out and gives blowies til she puts that ring on then everything changes
>>220784613I partied too hard and did too much manual labor for work. It's caught up to me at 38 but I'm still enjoying life, could always be worse.
>>220785550nothing sexually changed with my wife after marriagejust depends on if you're marrying a transactional woman I suppose
>>220784435Funny is that they tried to make fun of asperger/autism but for a lot of people tht's what autism feels like. Losing the sense of everything, being tired and bored all the time
>>220785270>literally the coolest pets everSup Abdul
>>220784613nope, only just started getting my shit together at 28 but I'm going all in on it and am never going back60lbs down in 4 months
>>220784435Literally me right now waiting to get paid on Friday so I can get some fuckin booze
man either needs wife and kids or to go fight a war.
>>220785579I fear you are in the mimority
>>220784435fun fact: after 25 your body starts slowly dying, you're basically starting to decay as soon as you hit 25-ish and it's all downhill from there
>>220784435I used to have a solid group of core friends who developed over middle and highschool. We then had this wider group of friends as well and I remember 18-23 being a golden era of fun. Every single weekend there were multiple events we had to choose from to go to with this network. During the weeks too there was always something going on and thursday nights were treated as the start of the weekend when everyone would go out. Everyone used to have infectious hype over things like movies or video games that were coming out, like we couldnt wait. Even sports stuff that I wasnt really into was fun because of how hyped others in the group were. I remember going to the Skyrim midnight release with some of the more jocks in the group because they just wanted to tag along and have fun too. Then people graduate college or they move and you dont really notice. Then some of the core group goes and before you know it, everyones gone. You're still there and want the party to keep going, but now youre 24 and almost everyone you knew is gone and its just a new batch of 18-20 yo. Just as quickly as these people came into your life, they left just as fast and you hear from basically none of them again. You realize its time to grow up yourself and get a real job, you stop going out and partying as much and life does get dull. You stay in contact with a few guys if youre lucky and maybe get together once a month. When you do you hear about how this guy moved to this state, how this guy and his gf got married, but now they are divorced, or how this guy unfortunately died from an OD. Even with this group left, you noticed some of them just arent the same. Its no ones fault, you just grew up into different people and all you have in common now is the past so everything is just "remember when" And nothing hypes you anymore. Not movies, not video games. Even politics which you got into as a replacement for excitement has gone dull and you realize how sad that actually is.
>>220785579And how long married are we talking about?The drought didn't catch up to me after 2-3 years but after 10 is gone
>>220785677Dude
>>220785707What did you do to work on the marriage; what did she do to work on it?
>>220785547The hobbies he has that give him genuine fulfillment are better suited for California than nyc imo. Pretty hard to golf or mountain bike there. For the first time recently he hung out with some software engineers. He’s a techie but working in finance atm. I would hope so but almost every Asian I know wants money so they can retire at 45 just to play video games in peace. Really no further aspirations than that unfortunately
yeah at 25 you are supposed to be starting phase 2 of your life not posting on 4chan and watching cartoons
>>220785755asian americans tend to suffer from being not that creative; partly because their parents crushed all notions of that in their youthyes money is important to make and have but it's not the end all be all of life
>Grow up watching sitcoms>Convinced i'm going to have a group of close friends to hang out with and go on crazy adeventures with when i get older>35 now>No friends>No social life>No gfFuck...........
>>220785768My uncle is 45 and does both. He's the happiest guy I know.
>>220785751We had a fundamental difference midway that completely crashed everything.I realized i wanted kids and she realized she didn'tNot her fault and not my fault, its just things that you learn about yourselfBut we still together so we must be doing somethingJust not sex
i lost contact with what few friends I did use to have during a depressive period a couple years ago.
>>220785795yeah you can do both but you arent
Why are the browns seething about dog owners now?
>>220785755Well, I wish him good luck. With enough time he'll inevitably build relationships/friendships in NYC. Even if he hates it. Only thing you can hope for is that he doesn't drown in the liquor. But he'll be fine, anon.
>>220785816Define phase 2
>>220784435me when I was 12
>>220785601why is it okay for dogs to be quirk chungus?
i sometimes wonder whether going through life never touching the skin of another human, never having any physical or emotional intimacy isn't profoundly damaging to a person
>>220784435Everything just gets boring over time because you've experienced too much and nothing is new anymore. Even new movies follow the same old tropes.You need something to force you out of your comfort zone.
>>220785833I think anon is referring to the "end of your 20s" which is really the range from like 15-25. This 10 year period is basically just a care free have fun phase of your life. You can not have a plan, party, hook up with girls, hang out with friends, eat whatever ect. But at 25, its time to lock in and get serious. The best course is to have been preparing since 15 for life and having fun in moderation. But if not, 25 is the sort of last call because if you continue that lifestyle past that point, you probably will never stop and you will be some fat alcoholic loser. The creepy old 40 yo we would all point and laugh at in the bar when we were 22
>>220785833it's the phase when you take your pick of which massive mistake you want to make
>>220784889tut tut
>>220785833advancing a career, finishing a postgraduate degree, starting a family, starting a business, creating instead of consuming, buying land, that sort of thing.
>>220785833Stop living off mom and dad, get a job and responsibilitiesBasically pull your own weight at the minimum level
>>220784435Yeah it was around 25 where I realized I was never going to catch up and had basically wasted my youth
30s are not nearly as fun as your 20s if you actually had a life. I'm not hooking up with new girls every week or going on spontaneous trips and parties anymore. I don't need to because I've had it all already. I'm enjoying my new, quiet life with my growing family and focusing on my career. I'm investing into property and building generational wealth. That's what you should be doing at 35, not chasing a youth you never had.
>>220785882You consider yourself on the level of a dog Abdul?
>>220786002or alternatively jerk off and play video games, because who gives a shit
>>220785810yall didnt discuss this before marriage at all? >>220785304Something I noticed is that a lot of people just get married to whoever they are dating at the time they are entering their late 20s. Maybe this is just a small town thing but its crazy how many people married people they are miserable with just because thats what they are supposed to do at that point in their lives. >>220784897eventually you realize that life is going to suck no matter what choice you make and its all about picking which suck you want to live with. This isnt even a blackpill thing, its actually a liberating realization if youre wise enough to see it as such.
>>220785992>Stop living off mom and dadDad left when I was six. Mom left with her alcoholic boyfriend when I turned 18.>get a job and responsibilitiesBeen working since I finished highschool If those are your requirements for "Phase 2" it says way more about you than any other anon in this thread.
>>220786002>That's what you should be doing at 35, not chasing a youth you never had.It's easy for you to say that when you already had all of that.
>>220785515I just LOOOOOOVE being a doggy daddy and cleaning up all the doggy daddy doo doo!
>>220786039>yall didnt discuss this before marriage at all?>wanna have kids>in the future maybe>okYou need a signed contract on how many kids you'll have nigga? And people don't change their minds either? You are being too dense we are human beings
>>220786013Just pointing out that the dog looked like a quirk chungus
>>220785133At 36 you probably know a lot of divorced people too. I'm mid 30s and married but it seems like there is always someone going through a divorce among my acquaintances. And the stories they tell are sad. So much bitterness and resentment, and their kids being put through traumatizing shit, having their lives uprooted, etc. Why do people get married if they're just gonna get divorced lol?
>Games after 25
>>220786002I think it was Gavin McInnes or one of those right wing guys who had some speech about how your life is in phases and you just need to live for that phase or youre a loser. Like chilhood is for playing with toys, videogames, super heros ect. but your teens and 20s are for girls and partying. People who stay in the super hero video game phase at this point are losers. The next stage of your 30s is for building a family and wealth and your career, so if youre still in your party and girls phase at this point youre a loser ect. This is right. Seeing 30 somethings still living life as a 22 yo, going to parties and whatnot is honestly pathetic. Saw on facebook that someone I know irl had his 40th birthday in Miami with his "friends" no wife, no kids, no home ect. He just rents apartments and parties still with people who clearly dont give a shit about him. Its in the same category as collecting funko pops
>>220785883it is, some people can find ways to cope with it and still be a decent person and all but it's definitely an uphill battle. I'm a permavirgin but the last time I got a girl to kiss me and hold hands with me that was already enough to feel like a boulder had been lifted from my soul for a while
>>220784837this is a good way to become a pushover
>>220786089It says nothing about me because you had a shitty childhood and I had a normal one.Not a GOOD one, a normal one.You are a minority here with your shitty childhood pal
>>220785789that is mostly jew fantasy anyway, most people my age are too busy with their kids to bum around all day with friends.
>>220786103>You are being too dense we are human beingsno anon, having kids is a MAJOR issue that needs to be addressed concretely. Not "ugh maybe I dont know" You know if you want kids or not at this point. I think you both really cared for each other, this was a major road block for the future of the relationship, so neither crossed over it for fear of breaking the relationship down. This is a common thing, not just around the kids issue.
>>220786142The majority of adult people nowadays play video games.
>>220786128People get married because it's still ingrained in us culturally that this is something you do as soon as possible.They get divorced because we live in a sick society in which it is normal (and legal) to get divorced at the slightest inconvenience
>want to an hero>obligatory "mom would be sad" guilt>also, raised as a christcuck so "suicide sends you to hell" is still in the back of my head and scares meJoy
>>220785883Of course it isJust the same way that having kids broadens the scope of your requirements for society.It's all me me me untill you have kids and say "hold on the guardrails should extend further than my nose"
>>220786142So in which phase should you post on imageboards?
>>220786178I didn't know when I was 20 something and neither did sheI realized I wanted kids at like 30 something
>>220786142alright well I spent my 20s as a fat loser so I'm gonna go ahead and spend my 30s travelling and clapping all the cheek I missed out on and not care what anybody thinks
>>220785076I thought you were going to say he moved to some BFE hicksville with a population of like 500 people, most of whom are elderly or something. If your bro is in the biggest city in America and cant make any connections, the issue is him.
at this point in western history, if you aren't married with a child on the way or having one at 25, you're life is actually over. no joke
>>220785883It literally causes braindamage over the course of years
>>220785076Based
>>220786142>life should be like what I had and what I lived and everyone else is a loserOk bud
>>220784435isn't it interesting how this episode wasn't made in the late 90s early 00s? Curious why that is
>>220785465I have a system. Weekdays I eat clean and don't jerkoff at all. Weekends I get some high quality dessert like a cake or some fancy anything I like.Same goes for games, weekdays I play maybe an hour every other day if I have time, and weekends I just binge game all day.Friday nights I goon for like 2-3 hours to the best tiktok and asmr videos I curated myself.I get to indulge in anything I want and feel disciplined, works pretty well for me
>>220786414Based Epicurean man
>>220786122https://youtube.com/shorts/CXITdCS0fEY?si=A6-OVs3pl8VBzq4V
>>220786414Doesn't work for me at all, since I'm spent after work. I do all the productive stuff on weekends and only do frivolous shit for 1-2 hours in the evening on fridays and saturdays.
>>220784435Life after 65
>>220786414tbhfam, as a 36 yo I just want some dumb zoomer pussy.
>>220786159A normal one is a good one. Why is that so hard for you to say? It’s not gay or anything to have a good childhood you insecure little weirdo
>>220786180there's playing it for less than 30 minutes a day or a week vs hours long sessions
>>220786516Most adults play longer sessions in the weekend.
>>220786471>shit for 1-2 hours in the evening on fridays and saturdays.And when do you browse 4chan?
>>220786142im 30smaxxing right now with wealth, family and taskmaxxingi missed out on a lot of partying and girls, but you also have to accept that subconsciously these were the choices you made. I still probably wouldn't want to do those things now. I got wired in childhood a certain way. Best to embrace what I am and what I have now. So much of unhappiness in life is people comparing themselves to very, very fictional ideals and ideas, such as what social media or television feeds them
>>220786566In between sets while I work out and when on the bike
>>220786186Just endure it man, imagine the euphoric release when you're about to die after a 80 year slog of misery.Eternal Bliss.
This was my life after like 8 when I found out everyone died one die. Never really recovered.
>>220786089You are a retard, not at all surprising that your own family abandoned you
>>220786474if youre a boomer/gen xer. Millenials will always play video games
>>220786582>never had a lot of girls growing up>break up with long term gf at 32>decide fuck it, going to go crazy with women>have been working out/look good/have money so I was able to get really attractive women too>hook up with them>feel absolutely nothingHonestly one of the bleakest moments of my life. Met up with this really hot girl from tinder at a bar and an hour into talking to her we go to her place. Having fun ect. but the MOMENT I came I felt nothing. No excitement or sense of accomplishment for having sex with a hot woman, not even like a cheap thrill. Just nothing, all the kinda empty and sad feelings of being recently broke up flooded back into me. It really isnt worth it, especially if you have a great wife.
>>220784908ive been 30 for 7 months and nothing has got better yet
I dreamed today
>>220785755>I would hope so but almost every Asian I know wants money so they can retire at 45 just to play video games in peaceWouldn't everyone like that? Having time to invest into hobbies and passion projects while still having at least 3-4 decades ahead of you to enjoy life. I don't see the downsides.
>>220785205True. I had a friend that could go up to any stranger at any bar we went to and talk to them like he knew them for years. Some people just roll a nat20 in charisma and I was not one of them. Trying to be extroverted when you’re naturally introverted is incredibly challenging for me. I don’t enjoy talking to strangers after a minute or two anyway, so I can’t even fake it lol
>>220784837>have adventures.What kind of adventures?
>>220786697Dreaming is good, that is your brain clearing out the clutter of the day. Allow yourself to dream.
>>220786742Its a skill like anything else and its gets better the more you practice. You dont like it because you arent good at it. Just keep forcing yourself to talk to strangers and you will get better at it.
>>220784435As someone who is in his 40s now, and is happier than he's been since childhood, three best pieces of advice that I can give. >Find a productive long-term hobby that you're good at. Not watching movies, not playing videogames, but where you're creating something and/or constantly striving to improve at a task>Cut shitty people out of your life. Don't be afraid to straight up tell people to fuck off if they're a negative presence. Friends, family, it doesn't matter. If they're bad for you, they have to go. >Don't be a fat fuck
>>220786742>Some people just roll a nat20 in charisma and I was not one of themyou can be an introvert with charisma, it's just whether you care or not and what you get out of the interactioncharismatic people are also very manipulative and I would be wary of themI can turn on my charisma and socialmaxx if I have a good reason to, but a random bar I don't care in the slightest as I get no positive feelings from these interactions
>>220786766You know, anal.
>>220786798>Don't be afraid to straight up tell people to fuck off if they're a negative presence. Friends, family, it doesn't matter. If they're bad for you, they have to go.They need to teach this in schools
>>220786827Cool it with the antisemitism!
>>220784435this is why you smoke weed and drink
>>220784837i fucking hate exercising. i'd genuinely rather just die younger. i swear some people are just predisposed to enjoying it and act all holier-than-thou to those that don't.
>>220786693What are you doing to improve your life? I’m guessing absolutely nothing.
>>220786678i once had a girl come over and we started foreplay and after 10 mins i was so bored and felt nothing and realised how pointless everything is that i literally stopped and told her to leave right there at 3.30am. she didnt want to leave but i literally forced her out. havent spoken to a woman since then and that was 4 years ago
>>220784897joy shared is doubled. misery shared is halved.
>>220786892I've never watched that gay movie but just go for a walk. It's not real exercise you're just walking. Soon enough you will walk up a mountain and put your foot on an actual glacier. And for me, that was the change. But for you maybe not. But I'd start with walking.
>>220786892forcing yourself to exercise is hardit's better to do it as part of something you enjoy so that it's more effortlessly sustainablee.g. getting a dog and walking it daily keeps you in basic health as wellgoing for hikes or long bike rides, gardening, homosexual wrestling, whatever worksfew people are genuinely happy about just hopping on a treadmill and running, and those who are tune out with podcasts or music
>>220786693Life doesn't really get better, you just get used to it more (or don't)
>>220786913i have a very high paying job, live very frugally and invest nearly all of it, work out moderately, eat healthy, dont play vidya, have some solitary hobbies like building scale models or chess and don't have any social media.BUT i have no family, no friends anymore and of course women never even look at me as im ugly
>>220786142>everyone on earth should do the exact same thing and live the exact same way and anyone who doesnt is a loserfuck off
>>220786892I do tooI hate it every single time I do and in all the years since I started it never became a single bit more enjoyablebut what I love is seeing how far I came from where I was and how much easier and effortless any sort of physical activity is, not being out of breath from a flight of stairs anymore, actually having energy that makes the suck worth it
>>220786947i climb mountains in the summer. i just don't exercise.
I have a sabbatical for June but I realized over memorial day weekend that I am perfectly context rotting away indoors. How do I not waste this?
>>220786798>>Find a productive long-term hobby that you're good at.For me it's 4chan shitposting, I put my heart in all my posts.
Do people who exercise all the time know that they're probably going to die at around the same time as people who don't anyway. Maybe even sooner.
>>220787009For me at the moment the only reason I do exercise is to put my foot on faggy melting glaciers. Enjoy being young.
>>220787086not everyone is exercising for the sake of lifemaxxing, part of it is just living life for its own sake
>>220787086Do people who say this not realized that not exercising can make you feel like shit but because it's just their natural state, they don't realize it's because they don't exercise.And just think they're miserable
Why do optimistic, happy people annoy me so much.It's almost like I don't even believe that they're actually happy and think it's all a larp
>>220786701Possibly. Maybe for many playing video games and watching movies are all they need. The fact my buddy has been drinking heavily for years now, and even more so these days despite having a good amount of wealth, makes me think they’re not all that fulfilling for him. If it is for others than more power to them
>>220787086Cope. This is demonstrably false as exercising increases lifespan by nearly 40%. This is for even basic levels of exercise like going on a 30 min walk each day. It also creates an overall better quality of life too because they arent fat sacks of shit who are constantly tired, bloated, nauseous, or too fat to do certain activities. >I-Im enjoying life!no, fat slobs arent even eating good food most of the time. They are just low IQ/low impulse control retards stuffing their pig faces with disgusting goyslop chips and sodas like trailer trash.
>>220787190i've known enough people who are miserable privately and pretend to be happy. i am suspicious of everyone that's gleeful. they're either lying, stupid, or one of the people benefiting from the misery of everyone else.
>>220785514it's also survivorship bias when you're happily married and presume this is default for everyone elsedivorce rate is currently 50%
>>220785831It can be difficult in nyc. Takes one hour to travel from one borough to another by subway one way, and an Uber from one to another is $50-60 one way as well. When all your peers are 30+ it’s gonna be hard to find people willing to put that kind of time, money and energy to hang out with someone they don’t know while they’ve got other shit to do themselves. But I appreciate the sentiment, anon.
>>220786142>Gavin McInnesHe hangs out with a bunch of other men all day and stuck a dildo up his ass. Also he's a fed.
>>220787229Imagine cursing yourself to this miserable existence. You know the difference between normies and reality but it doesn't need to consume you. Read shopenhour and go for a short walk.
>>220784613sometimes i forget everyone here is a fat fuck barely holding it together
>>220787197I really wish that I had known in my 20s that losing all my weight would have just been a matter of intermittent fasting and cutting sugar. I wasted my best years as a fatty because I didn't even know where to begin beyond "starve yourself".
>>220784897people always says this shit, but when it comes to actual numbers, you never see married people at the top of anti-depressant consumption or suicides. Its always the single/divorced people that are one bad day away from the rope.
>>220786142>your teens and 20s are for girls and partyingYeah, this is pretty much never been the case for any group of people throughout history except americans post nineteen fifty dude, literally, no one did this ever before modern life.Before then, it was just a fucking struggle.For everything
>>220787404People really do take for granted that for shitty as things presently are, we've still got it so much better than people even a century ago. This would be Harry Potter world to someone in the 1300s.
>>220786964Why are you investing and living frugally if you hate life. Do you think life will be more enjoyable when you are decrepit and senile?
I will be 25 this year. Thank you for the free advice anons.
>>220786678Why did you and your gf break up
>>220787366im a jacked tall white guy
>>220787477i have nothing to spend my money on really. my only outgoings are energy/water/electricity bills, food and drink shopping and fuel for the car. thats literally it. i dont eat out, i dont buy clothes (the shirt i am wearing right now i bought in 2014 when i was in uni lol). like what else is there. occasionally i buy parts/paints for my models but thats literally £20 max (bong here). every thing else i do and my hobbies at home are free (i read but everything from the library). what are you suggesting i spend my money on or if you dont want to suggest then what do regular people spend money on?
>>220786798These are great, especially point two. That one cannot be emphasized enough, yet it seems like almost everyone is too anxious to just pull the trigger on someone deserving of it
>>220784870>and also make sure to eat a well rounded dietIf you do enough cardio and intermittent fast you can eat pretty good without getting fat
>>220786798>>Cut shitty people out of your life. Don't be afraid to straight up tell people to fuck off if they're a negative presence. Friends, family, it doesn't matter. If they're bad for you, they have to go.This but dont even tell them. Just stop contacting them and let the relationship wither away. No need for some epic movie moment "we're done!" even if they directly fucked you over.
>>220787037If you’re content staying indoors why not have a staycation for your sabbatical? Nothing wrong with staying indoors if you genuinely enjoy it.
>>220785677>Even politics which you got into as a replacement for excitementWtf? I hope I will never do this
>>220785883It literally is, we are social creatures wired to do social things such as finding a partner. People who grow up without more often or not kill themselves or they go borderline insane as they drown out their depression with alcohol and other stuff
>>220787610True but there’s something almost therapeutic about telling a piece of shit that they’re a piece of shit right before blocking them and changing all your passwords
>>220787037Use the free time and mental space to unfuck your life. It's that simple. If you just sit inside the whole time you'll come back and feel depressed that you wasted it.
literally just go out into nature. It doesn't even need to be physical if you trannies are still healing wounds. I saw this big boy last week in the cascades.
>>220787632Because I like to think there's more to my life than just dicking around indoors all day.Makes me feel like a rat in a cage even if I enjoy it
>>220786697When I drink (I do that alot) I have very clear visual dreams. Today I dreamt of a horse getting close to me and I did the thing where you blow into its nose gently to great it. It really liked me. I know that dream means, I love animals and am a animal person. I used to work in stables when I was younger. I have not touched a horse in years and I still day dream about all that stuff
>>220787190why is that a problem? wouldn't you rather be surrounded by people with fake optimism rather than people who are miserable 24/7
>>220786185Pretty much. Marry in a rush, divorce in a rush. Industrial society was a mistake
>>220785658what about philosophical contemplation? all you need is a rock to sit on and a fist to rest your chin upon
>>220784435If you feel this way, it's a sign that youre doing something wrong and to turn your life around.
>>220787744get a hotel for a weekend at your local big city and then walk the streets and see where the days take youyou can plan a little more of course but the important thing is a forced change of setting
>>220787874Yeah, I was thinking about visiting a bunch of national parks. I'm living in the northeast, so I might just drive down from boston to miami.And visit like the appalachians and smoky mountains on the way there
>>220787872you still need to live life some to contemplate or ponder it properly, otherwise it’s just masturbation for your brain if you’re a 30 year old with no life experience reading philosophy but afraid to go out
>>220785677hello, me
>>220787889all that is a great idea and probably what suits your personality but as a growth opportunity i’d still try to socialize some
>>220784897My parents are the only people I know who aren't divorced. Rest of my family, friends, and their friends are all divorced at least once. It's weird really, since they fight ALL the time. Being lazy and broke is the only thing keeping them together I guess.
>>220787889I wonder if anyone ever has had a half mid life crises and went to a bunch of national parks? Lol there's movies and a whole part of YouTube devoted to it. You're a normie just embrace it. Here's a waterfall I saw in Olympic NP last month. Embrace the hiking pill.
>>220787563You live in Europe, go for a solo vacation and see some of the history and architecture around the continent. Go to a football match even if you don't follow the sport, could be fun just too feel like part of the home crowd. Personally, I like camping, kayaking, and hiking. I'm sure you could find some places around you that caters to that.
>>220787833so you want to fuck the horse is that right?
>>220787983i do like history and architecture (particularly churches). the thing is i just feel super empty when i go abroad for a holiday. i last went in summer 2024 to florence. ive just grown even less willing to spend money now. i watch football (only at home lol). whilst i am used to loneliness through having literally no one in my life i do have that feeling of not belonging and being a bit lonely when i go out and especially abroad. i was in chile for a whole month this year for work which was cool though, nice country
>>220786142Which phase is it where you start taking life advice from a metrosexual grifter (fed) that displays his anus on livestream to "own the libs"?
>>220788039traveling as a tourist can be very empty and for some not feel much different from just a youtube tour or an article it helps to have an actual emotional reason or anchor to travel rather than it just being something to dothe people who talk up travel the most tend to be sluts and have memories of sex and drugs with their travels
>>220788083>traveling as a tourist can be very empty and for some not feel much different from just a youtube tour or an articlethis. every time i go abroad alone (only been 2 times as a holiday per se) it has felt empty and ive always felt "meh that was a waste of money and maybe i saw 1 or 2 cool things but could have seen them from home"
>>220787964Motherfucker, I do sales. I have to talk to people for a living.It makes me wanna strangle them. Seriously, man, sales reduces people to their most basal instincts it has just made me more antisocial.It has taught me that positive reciprocity is very important. When it comes to social interaction, if you're not getting any, you're not gonna enjoy it.>>220787968Pretty much, I mean, I haven't been on a vacation my entire 20s so I was like, fuck it. I'm tired of being stuck in the rat race.I want to actually see something before I die
>>220788009Friendship with an animal is something really nice. It doesn't have to be freaky shit like you want it be
>>220788129I'll nod at you on trail.
>>220784837Fuck off did all that and pushed myself and it's worse none of it works today if you're not good looking, aren't rich and/or have 0 network. It's just getting rejected on repeat, everywhere (friends, job market, dating market...). Then you lose all your enthusiasm, become more jaded and suicidal because you cared and tried and have no motion, powerless.This world is dystopian and disgusting.
>>220787284Yeah I sometimes forget NYC is basically the size of my entire country
>>220786646It's not a day goes by that I don't say the same thing, yet here I am. I live partly to spite you.
>>220787596Bad fats are still bad fats anon. Sugar will still wreck you in the long run if not handled with moderation.
>>220788275you have to actually learn from the rejections instead of doing the same thing over and over
Is this why chuds keep raping 14 and 15 year old girl children? To try and reclaim youth they feel they lost? You fucks are like vampires
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>>220784613I was an alcoholic for 10 years but havent touched the sauce in almost 18 months now. Lost about 25 pounds, feel healthier but now im just tired all the damn time being a parent to my 3 year old son. At least i get paid well at this new job i started beginning of this year. Life is good for now, just really tired all the time. Caffeine and nicotine can only carry me so far
>>220788537have a line of speed every now and thenless stress
the thing that sucks the most about life after 25 is how fast time flies.when you're a kid a year feels like a very long period of time, now that I'm in my 40s and I think about 10 years ago it feels like yesterday.
>>220784897Nobody said "get a cunt wife and raise shithead kids." If you decide to make a poor choice in your romantic partner and you fuck up raising your kids when there are 6000 different resources available to you to assist with raising your kids properly, then that is all on you and it does NOT mean settling down is "bluepilled".I hate these people who take someone's advice but do it like a retard, fuck up, then say "well that advice was bad!" No, the advice is sound, it's the smoothbrain who took the advice who fucked up. Getting a quality wife will raise the productivity in your life, not lower it. Your happiness and peace of mind will increase, not decrease. Otherwise rich fucks would never ever get married because it sure as shit isn't for love. It just makes it so much easier in life when there is a sort of "second copy" of yourself running around getting errands done, calling companies, networking and socializing, etc. And this is ignoring, as others have pointed out, how soul crushing your life will be by 40 when you see everyone around you firmly in the midst of sharing their lives with their partner and children and you're still sitting with your dick in your hand every night in a dark bachelor's apartment.
>>220789541>there are 6000 different resources available to you to assist with raising your kids properlyhuh?
>>220789570Bro gave his first kids up to the state but now has a Filipino wife
>>220789540I can't believe it's already the end of may dude.I always think about this shit when i'm laying in bed, and i'm like dude.I'm gonna be fucking dead pretty soon
>>220786002>That's what you should be doing at 35, not chasing a youth you never had.You're 100% right that's the best choice. But I didn't have decent social skills until about 28, then I had some financial freedom around 35, so I "chased the youth I didn't have" and it fucked me up a good bit. If only I had been programmed to have social skills when I needed them, or at least to act as mature and forward thinking as possible, then... Life is basically just gay if you're half-smart but not programmed correctly. it goes from generally dissatisfying to profoundly so.
>>220786964>i have a very high paying job, live very frugally and invest nearly all of itwhat do you do? how'd you get there? what do you invest in?
>>220784870>As the anon said, daily exercise will do wondersI don't even do this part and I've never been as happy as I am now at 36.
>>220787563>what do regular people spend money on?cocaine and hookers
>>220790481private equity. i got there through the normal path to getting there: oxbridge, then investment banking for a while, then did some strategy for a corporate before being here at this fund. i mostly invest in the S&P and good long term stocks (so tech stocks). also hold some crypto and have some more risky investments>>220790546havent done cocaine in years but i did a lot of it at uni and when i started working (pre COVID). hookers never attracted me and seems like you are a failure if you use one
>>220789938>I'm gonna be fucking dead pretty soonIt's freeing. At least I had a little bit of success and a few interesting thoughts and experiences, in between anxiety and depression, and at least I didn't force some other fucked up person to exist so they can flail around trying to be happy but mostly succumbing to depression and anxiety.
>>220786964>of course women never even look at me as im uglyWell, why don't you just tell them you work in private equityI don't know man. I on paper should be a viable bachelor too, but I think I'm just too socially inept for women and by socially inept, I mean I just want a caveman relationship where I don't have to deal with her fucking bullshit, and she does what she's told but society forbids that now, and I'm fucked, because I can't do datingGuys will say you're a loser but seriously, you see men in relationships now, and it's just like they're slaves to their women. But that's just my theory. Maybe it's a coping mechanism
>>220790673>private equity.cool. I guess I don't have the right education for that. Be nice to think of that as a young person, or have parents that literally "force" you to. That's really cool you knew how to put yourself in that situation and followed through. A lot of people would like to have done that.
>>220785133were you born lower middle class
>>220790728It's funny because i've been aware of antinatalism for like ten years now and I don't think there's ever been a valid counter-argument.I don't see any valid reason to not see having children as the most insanely selfish thing to do. Like literally, no one benefits from being alive. You get nothing out of this. It literally is just better to never have experienced existence at all
i had a lot of fun partying from age 14 to 26 but I didn't get my own house and a good job til I was 29, so idk life feels better than ever, I just hit 30 and I got a beautiful baby too
>>220790838is it white
>>220785236ive been hiking forever but to this day its still one of my biggest drives in life, to get to a good weekend and hit the woods
>>220790673>>220790797Addendum. I'm late 30s, and was unmotivated as a young person, then thought to get a "job I like" as a lot of people suggest. Did that, but I'd much rather have financial independence than doing a job I like for a median salary. Should have been a super motivated money obsessed person at age 12, and invested like crazy. Now I get to work long hours because I wasn't a different, smarter person when young. You should feel good about your choices.
>>220790797i grew up extremely poor (like no electricity sometimes poor). my parents didnt really have full time jobs and were spotty at best. but thank you. surprisingly wholesome comment. yes i know from that perspective i am fortunate to have reached where i am and have tangible reward for my work>>220790784>Well, why don't you just tell them you work in private equityi feel girls dont care. at least in london. elsewhere they dont even know what it is. but it boils down to facial looks at the end of the day. > I mean I just want a caveman relationship where I don't have to deal with her fucking bullshitthis is the ideal and honestly has been for centuries until the recent advent of the internet, social media and smartphones especially. dont get me wrong women have also had a level of bullshit but i imagine for the average man it wasn't as profound as it is now. i feel i relate to you from what you say, though i wouldn't say i WANT a relationship as ive become accustomed to being alone but it could be nice
>>220785810>still with a woman that wont have your kidswhat a bummer, my life didn't come together til the wife got pregnant and now I have more drive than ever before (besides my adderall abuse days) and I still make my art and do all my shit, never was gonna let my kid stop me from self actualization and really they're apart of that, I finally have a satisfied mind
>>220790869100% white, her smile makes me happier than anything in the world
>>220790933I'm>>220790906I feel a bit retarded asking this, but if you didn't have your qualifications and experience, how'd you go about getting a high-paying career now? I fell into the "get a job you like" camp in my early 20s after doing basically nothing as a teen. I just want financial independence now, don't care about social status, just don't want to be strapped to any sort of job.
>>220784435You'll grow up and get over it soon.
>>220791141>I'm??
I just read all the hard-core cope ITTDon't do any of it
>>220790933Yeah, I think that the destruction of this caveman dynamic is why so many dudes are struggling now. Modern dating is nowhere near the norm. And most guys are not attuned to having to “relate” to a woman. It just wasn’t in their nature, and now they’re being forced to converse with women at restaurants. It’s funny because it seems like a lot of us would literally rather die than do that. Not sure why.
>>220785077Why? Keep in mind I'm not interested in having sex.
>>220784613Is 32 too late to start exercising proper? I'm 280 pounds fat at 6'1". No drinking habits just fast food problems. I own an exercising bike as of recent but only used it once for 20 minutes so far.
>>220790827>I don't think there's ever been a valid counter-argument.children have the choice to self-abort if they want to, 1/3 to 1/2 of pregnancies naturally end in miscarriage very early onevery person born on this earth chose to be here, an embryo has agency right from the very start
>>220791293>Is 32 too late to start exercising properno but you need to fix your diet first before doing any hardcore exercise, being 280 at 32 you will injure yourself easily if you try to go too hard. Fix your diet, walk a lot, and then think about weightlifting or heavy cardio once you're in the 220s.You can bike your pounds off if you go full obsessive autist about it for a few months but you'll gain it right back unless you change your diet. And you have to change your diet to not be a meme either. Just what regular people at a low weight eat. Not crap you specifically buy to fit the mold of some meme diet, just real natural food at appropriate portions. It'll be a transition process for you though. Your weight is the product of your lifestyle. You will have to change how you live in a very fundamental way if you want to get to a healthy weight
>>220785352Sup faggot, u mad because I'm talking shit about your based flufferino? Your heckin chungus doggerino?
>>220785099This dogs chasing cars. When you get it it's hollow. If you're smart enough to see that it makes it hard to do anything without coming up with your own creative spin on the world to make it your own a little
>>220791488this is why im just a dog chasing stuff for the rest of my life - i got family and kids now, everything else is just dog chasing and it's a good mentality to have. chasing is important to do to stay productive and grounded but i already caught whats most important
Am i the only one who lived in sheer dread before my 25th and now at 35 in complete fucking bliss? Life only got better since then.Good luck looking for social approval, I guess. It's completely worthless.Spending time thinking about others isn't time spent with yourself.
>>220791293As other anon says, get a grip on food, READ a lot of books on the subject, understand protein carbs fat and calories. I would get started on weights asap though, if you're completely clueless on gym, do some personal trainer sessions so they can show you correct form.
>>220790887Seen any bears yet this year? Everyone is complaining about the la nina ticks but I've seen a dozen bears since April. They're hungry this spring.
>>220791208I meant I was this post: >>220790906 (You)
>>220786798>>Cut shitty people out of your life. Don't be afraid to straight up tell people to fuck off if they're a negative presence. Friends, family, it doesn't matter. If they're bad for you, they have to go.I did this and now I have no friends
>>220786171Are you third worlder or something? I'm 32 and like less than 1/3 of people i know have kids.
>>220791698>>220790906ah ok. i mean you dont have to be money obsessed by 12 but i do think my case might be a bit specific because i was shaped by how poor i grew up and didn't want to live like that. what do you do if you don't mind telling? in the grand scheme of things if you make a median salary AND are not pissing it away on frivolous shit your choices haven't been horrendous objectively but i know you will (like i have here) internalise it and see the other facets of your life as lesser
>>220784435>me after woke leftist weirdos ruined all the movies, shows, and games I used to love
How does true loneliness feel?t. 29 y.o. volcel
>>220791562Life has never been horrible for me, and now thanks to taking risks and working hard i'm in a really good position in my 30s. It feels fucking great being an actually succesful person. You do get blackpilled on a few things though, like how women clearly naturally want succesful men and now they want you instead of the good looking chad they wanted in their early 20s. Also how clearly it's success that "cures" depression especially with men and how a lot of men aren't really very succesful and it's kinda just their biological mechanism telling them to kill themself because they didn't succeed in life. Pretty fucked up how cruel the world really is.
>>220791899I used to think that it's being unable to connect with losers as well, thus being truly alienated.But then I realized I'm a failed normie at best and most people like me as long as I make an attempt to socialize.
>>220791899you feel completely out of place everywhere. like you don't fit in or have the capacity to connect with anyone in the low probability chance you leave your house
>>220784435just have a drink and chill man
>>220791915>Also how clearly it's success that "cures" depression especially with men and how a lot of men aren't really very succesful and it's kinda just their biological mechanism telling them to kill themself because they didn't succeed in life. Pretty fucked up how cruel the world really is.Yep. Feeling this pretty badly in late 30s after fucking things up. It's psychologically devastating. You have no choice but to try to change everything and be disciplined, smart and strategic, be "grateful" for what you still have, or just give up and wallow in drugs and alcohol.
>>220785401wtf I don't remember posting in this thread
>>220789540>>220789938The trick is to take each day one at a time. It sound's woo woo but that's all there is to it; treat each day and each moment as it's own thing, not part of a continuum.
>>220792038not the same guy but despite being "successful" when i dont engage in my hobbies i do find myself wallowing in alcohol
>>220785883See a prostitute. If nothing else it will at least help with the massive fear of intimacy you've developed. It's therapeutic
>>220792038>>220792091I forgot to add to my post that the only thing i have to look out for now is drinking too much alcohol and doing drugs. I guess no matter your position in life, those things are always present for the white man.
I was dead and on autopilot for most of my life and I finally found what I really like at 36 but I feel like it's too late now...
>>220790242Don't feel to bad, you're far from the only one. If you had bad stuff happen to you as a kid and it stunted your development, that's not your fault
>>220784435>>220785265>AND I SAAAAAW MY REFLECTION
>>220792358at 50 you won’t think 36 was too late
>>220792358>I finally found what I really likeand what's that?
