>>220796192
I still don't get why they turn invisible but Sauron gets superpowers or whatever

>>220796192
yeah i never understood the 'lets use it against sauron' argument, his old man was demented though so i guess you need to have a disturbed mind to come up with such a notion and every one else will defer to you because of your title.

>>220796192
the powers it confers vary with the person wearing it, Galadriel makes this clear in Lothlorien

But yeah I dunno why Boromir thought it would help in the war on sauron, I'm a lore-let movie-only though.

>>220796221
>>220796192
Yeah that was a really stupid part of the film

>>220796192
Wraiths are just the ring retrieval squad when Sauron senses that someone unsuitable to be his host has put on the ring. If someone like Boromir with numenorean blood had put on the ring, then it's possible Sauron would have just slowly corrupted him.

>>220796192
>>220796192
You now realize that Boromir was one of 2 people ever, the other being Bilbo, who was strong enough of will that they could willingly relinquish the ring without being forced to do so.

>>220796192
they don't know anything about the ring other than it was sauron's
>>220796221
it was his and he put all his evil in it, why would it turn against him?

>>220796423
You now realize that Hobbits were in possession of the ring 3/4 times after Sauron. 3/5 if you include Bean holding it for a minute. 3/3 if you don't include Isildur.

>>220796511
what if i don't include the hobbits either

>>220796192
You're discounting the fact that maybe, in Middle Earth, a certain subset of people had the fetish of wanting to turn themselves invisible and fuck a wraith.

>>220796536
then they held it 0/0 times so it's undefined and I can make up whatever I want

>>220796232
They just assume it's an accessory that grants them +100 str, +100 hp, +100 spd, +100 luck etc. They don't realize it only works for 1 person because it's imbued with his essence/soul or whatever. It also is super manipulative, basically lightly mind controlling them to think that they can wield it so it can parasitize long enough to get back to Sauron.

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>>220796423
You're forgetting that Sam did it, as well (and Bombadil, if you include the book). Although there are degrees to this shit.

Boromir technically had the ring in his possession for a moment but never actually touched the ring itself, which probably would have been the point to no return. He got corrupted just by proximity to the the thing so if he'd physically touched it he probably declares himself high lord of Middle Earth and turns on the party right then and there. Although I think Gandalf and Aragorn probably take him down immediately despite the extra ring power.

Sam was full blown master of the ring for a brief while but stopped thinking of it as his once he found out Frodo was alive. The ring tempted him with visions of grandeur but he was humble enough to know it was bullshit. But also, he hadn't had it very long. If he'd had to carry it for a few days instead of a few hours with it pissing in his ear the entire time who knows if he stays so resolute.

Bilbo is the only one who ever willingly gave it up while also having had it for any extended period of time and he had to be more or less goaded into it and he was still in the shire while the ring was more or less inactive and he was handing it off to someone he considered a son so it was kind of a perfect storm of circumstances lining up to make it feasible. Still a tremendous act of willpower though.

It's also worth noting that while a few people relinquished the ring neither of the people who managed to bring it to the forge were willing to let it go and actually destroy it. it overtook their wills at the brink both times. It's probable that if anyone on middle-earth who was powerful enough to claim the ring openly wielded it for long enough it would perhaps not corrupt them entirely but exert a significant influence over them to the point where it altered their personality. There's a reason none of the powerful people Frodo meets want tot take it off his hands even when he asked them to.

>>220796221
Because it’s essentially a cursed object. the ring was made for one person only Sauron. Imbued with his soul.
Taints others. Controls the other ring holders.

>>220796833
But Gandalf is a ring holder and he doesn't control him

>>220796221
The ring IS Sauron, part of him anyway. It has powers mortals can’t comprehend or use. Just a fancy little gimmick that makes returning it to the rest of Sauron a lot easier for the ringbearer.

>>220796833
>>220796914
so why did he put a part of his sould there? so he could be killed just by throwing this shit into a volcano?

>>220796912
The one ring only controls the others when Sauron is wearing it, it’s a power that can only be wielded by him.
Before Isildur cut Sauron’s ring finger off, it went like this:
Sauron (in disguise) made the rings with the elves then gave all nineteen to them.
Sauron went home and forged the one ring and put it on so he could control the elves.
The elves immediately caught onto the plan and took all their rings off, hiding the three most powerful while Sauron found & took back the other sixteen.
He gave seven to the dwarves, but their souls were too stubborn to come under the rings influence. Still, the rings made them insatiably greedy and they still managed to fuck themselves over.
He gave nine to men, who succumbed to the one ring and became wraiths.
Presumably, if the ring was returned to Sauron and he put it on, everyone else in Middle Earth wearing a ring would come under his influence (unless they’re a dwarf, or unless they immediately take their ring off). Gandalf and Galadriel both admit they’re capable of being corrupted if Sauron gets his powers back.

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>>220796192
>we should use this ring, which turns you invisible to everyone except Sauron who is then immediately alerted to your position, to defeat Sauron

>>220796752
>They don't realize it only works for 1 person
They were told like 5 times, which is why it's so retarded as a temptation motive. If the ring actually did give power it would be more effective.

>>220796192
made me lol, I must admit

>>220797295
The ring is pure malice, ambition and temptation because it’s a fragment of Sauron’s soul. Logic doesn’t really factor into it, when someone lays eyes on the ring it simply calls to them. They may even fully understand that they can’t use it but they don’t care, they just want it.

>>220796192
its a metaphor for power ya idiots. each man believes he has the strength to wield it but its illusory

>>220796192
What would you do if you knew you couldn’t be seen?

>>220797001
Basically Sauron wanted to rule the world, but knew that the immortal Elves who literally remember his master (Morgoth) would be a massive threat. He comes to them in disguise, and offers to teach them how to make magical tools that can essentially reverse magic entropy and make it so their domains stay the way they are and don't fade. He then secretly made the One Ring to control those tools, but had to use a ton of his power to ensure it would control the already powerful Elven rings.
>>220797273
You have to remember the first thing the Ring wants to make you believe is that you can use it. It's why it's so funny when it tries to convince Sam to use it.

>>220796221
The layman version:
The Ring's invisibility is an unintended side effect when used by mortals. It "shifts" the wearer into the spirit world (which is why Frodo can see the Nazgul and they him at Weathertop.) Powerful beings like Sauron and Gandalf already exist in the spirit world primarily, and thus don't get "shifted."
It's less "Sauron gets superpowers" and more "Sauron recovers his remaining power he doesn't have access to."

>>220797498
This whole spirit world being a thing is a bit half-baked tbqh.
The whole "shifting" into the spirit world and then also somehow being invisible in the real world.
Seems very contrived and after the fact rationalization of the invisibility trait the ring has.

>>220797215
>one ring to RULE THEM ALL … ok just 9 and only humans
Bravo Tolkien

>>220797528
Gandalf explains this to Frodo in Fellowship.

>You were in gravest peril while you wore the Ring, for then you were half in the wraith-world yourself, and they might have seized you. You could see them, and they could see you.

LOTR is adventureslop

>>220796192
why is the use of this wizards' tool not explained... AHHH IM BECOMING CONFUUSED

If the ring is unbreakable then can't you use it like an armor for protection?

The ring is basically like a horcrux.

>>220797554
To be fair he only had elves in mind when he was hatching his plan.
It would have eventually worked if the ring wasn’t destroyed. The elves were fucking off back to Valinor and the dwarves weren’t all that concerned with what was happening above ground.

>>220797554
The whole point of the Rings was to control Elves, using them on Dwarves and humans was an attempt to get some use out of them after the Elves figured out his plan.

>>220796788
>Sam was full blown master of the ring for a brief while but stopped thinking of it as his once he found out Frodo was alive. The ring tempted him with visions of grandeur but he was humble enough to know it was bullshit. But also, he hadn't had it very long. If he'd had to carry it for a few days instead of a few hours with it pissing in his ear the entire time who knows if he stays so resolute.
Even then we saw what the ring gives you: domination over the weak willed. Sam is able to big dog the Cirith Ungol orcs when he puts it on. Thats the main power is charisma

Smeagol
>I finally have the ring... now I can go live in caves and eat raw fish and turn into a hideous monster in constant agony!
Bilbo
>I finally have the ring... now I can go back to the shire and do absolutely nothing for 60 years, well at least I got a neat party trick!
Frodo
>Oh the weight of this ring... becoming invisible and going to the demon dimension to alert them of my location while endangering my friends is just too tempting
The ring: doesn't give you powers, doesn't enhance any of your good or bad qualities, doesn't really do anything that'd justify being obsessed with it.
>The human-elvish alliance kills Sauron while he's wearing the ring
>The human-elvish alliance jobs to ringless Sauron's retard army (he's not even there) and they only survive because the ring is destroyed
BRAVO TOLKIEN

>>220796192
KWAB what the fuck did this idiot even think the ring would do to save his kingdom?

>oh yeah we have one dude turn invisible that will turn the tide of the battle

thank god he died

>>220796221
it puts you in the spirit realm and isn't conventional invisibility

>>220797001
You have to go down the Arda Marred rabbit hole to understand.

Basically Morgoth tried to usurp Gods power of creation and resented any will outside his own so he scarred creation itself by trying to dominate it. He poured his soul into creation of middleearth which introduced sin, and therefor entropy as an extension of sin. Gold was one of the places this morgoth element collected the heaviest.

Sauron basically created a weapon that was powered by the nihilistic evil that ruined all creation and in doing so he could resist entropy and dominate the wills of those around him. You see it in the three elven rings and how they slow time creating bubbles of eden around the elves that wield them. Its a scaled up evil version of that.

He is basically tapping into the sin of the middle earths devil to power an artifact to enslave all life to his will while eliminating entropy

>>220797383
>>220796192
Its one of those things that doesnt make sense but its not supposed to.

The best way to describe the ring's power is that emits a corruption aura of stupid evil.
>this ring has never been proved to provide power to a single person besides satan, in fact, it most of the time lead to their demise or enfeeblement... with me, however, it will be different
Thats what it does, its dumb, but thats exactly how it works.

>>220797837
In order to use the Ring properly you have to be powerful already. Frodo and Sam both sort of use it for its intended purpose (dominating the minds of lessers), but as both of them aren't powerful or ambitious they can't do bigger feats.
>>220798039
Sort of, see above. Others than Sauron can use its power according to their own power (so Boromir would have been able to do more than Sam), but the first and most powerful power the Ring projects is the delusion that you can become its master. You can't, and even if you can - Gandalf could, maybe Galadriel or Elrond - you would just effectively be Sauron at that point.

>>220797929
So you’re telling me I’ll have to settle for watching the spirits of big-assed milfs going to the bathroom at the mall?
Fuck it, I’ll give it a shot.

>>220796192
kek
i know there's some cope about how invisibility is only hobbits o algo but they did a dogshit job describing the power of the ring in the movie

>>220798324
Brown

The ring can be mastered and wrestled away from Sauron's control and turned against him. It would make the wearer more powerful and capable of leading an army to defeat Mordor, but it would eventually corrupt them. Sauron is afraid that somebody powerful enough will master the ring and he thinks Aragorn has it and has already mastered it. When Sam wears the ring he's a rock throw away from Sauron who turns towards the west looking desperately where Aragorn might be with it.

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>>220796192
>Strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine. That's right, I'll gain the ability to be a transparent blue and not meaningfully interact with anything

>>220796221
It’s class race specific, unironically if you equip it on the wrong character you don’t get all the benefits. On Hobbits it makes them go to a shadow realm, on men it would likely do something else. Gondor had wise men who Boromir believed could unlock the full potential, his plan makes a lot of sense in the book.

>>220796192
Will always reply to this

>>220798574
did you even watch the films? isilidur goes invisible. It brings you to the spirit realm, dumbfuck

The frantic panic when Sauron realizes the hobbits are going to chuck the ring into the lava is more existential dread at realizing Eru hadn't abandoned Arda. Up until then since the fall of Numenor he was operating under the impression Eru had abandoned the world and he was free to do as he saw fit.

>>220798601
Retard I read the book and only in the movie does it turn everyone invisible, nobody knows what happens if other races put it on

>>220798574
>For Isildur was marching north along the east
banks of the River, and near the Gladden Fields he was waylaid by the Orcs of the Mountains, and almost all his folk were slain. He leaped into the waters, but the Ring slipped from his finger as he swam, and then the Orcs saw him and killed him with arrows.
-Gandalf to Frodo, Fellowship of the Ring, Chapter 2 "Shadows of the Past"
>>220798574
Anyone who repeats this retarded take should be euthanized due to low IQ

Wild card: give the ring to the balrog, let an invisible balrog run around and fuck shit up

>>220798807
Balrogs are angelic beings like Sauron so would not be affected.

>>220796221
Sauron is Kid C, it belongs to him

>>220798574
Shut the fuck up dumbass it made Isildur invisible.

>>220798869
so what would a Balrog do with the ring? Become Uber Balrog?

>>220796221
you got to the 4d world youre not invisible you retard

>>220796258
Because it is assumed to have dozens of insane powers beyond that, enough to easily turn the tide of a war with Mordors jobber army if they study it. They never even tried to use it. Bilbo was not a scholar or wise man, he just used it for personal tricks. They never got Gondor’s lore nerds to harness and study it, they would’ve been able to. Gandalf easily would master it. Saruman wanted it. But Gandalf warned it would just cause more long term issues and not solve the problem.This is what Boromir disagreed with.

Gondor easily had the resources to master and solve it, then win a war on Mordor. It would probably turn Gondor into a tyrannical country, but it was an alternative to just sending a Hobbit with it anyway. It pisses him off but he is honorable enough to agree to disagree at first. After a while he succumbs. In the book he suspects Frodo of betraying them and taking it straight to Sauron iirc, he wants to take it to Gondor “just to see what they say” and other detours as well.

why did Sauron want the ring so badly? he's an eye, fuck he gon do with it?

>>220796429
>other than it was sauron's
It's literally known as the One Ring to Rule Them All. It comes in powers of many forms. The Elvish rings are fucking elemental magic of Fire, Water, and Air. Both Gandalf and Elrond use their respective rings of Fire and Water in the movies. Galdaf against the Balerog and Elrond with he water horses. The One Ring is powerful.

>>220798869
You would be giving a spirit made of fiery hate and destruction a massive charisma boost. The Balrog would probably make hell on earth. Not the dystopian kind but lava and sulfur kind

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>BILBO BAGGINS!
>Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks
>I am not trying to rob you
>IM TRYING TO SUCK YOUR DICK AND EAT YOUR SHIT!!

>>220798927
>>220798801
Oh well who cares retard the point stands, cope more. If it makes Isildur invisible too it’s because he’s mortal. It does a different thing on wizards and elves. Stop samefagging.

>>220798961
well what would happen is an orc would biff the ring into the eye which would make sauron into a person again

>>220798958
Saruman makes an imitation ring and with it he is able to breed and enslave the Uruks

For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!

>>220798968
Wait actually in the movies I think it was actually changed to Arwen using magic. However in the books Elrond used the ring.

>>220798997
It wouldn't make Gandalf or Saruman invisible, because they are primarily immortal angelic spirits. It would also not make "high elves" like Galadriel or Glorfindel invisible, because they also have immense spiritual "weight."
Wood Elves and Dwarves you could probably debate. In my opinion, neither has the spiritual heft to avoid becoming invisible.
>>220798958
Absolutely not. Remember that Aragorn and co's march on Mordor after the Pellenor is explicitly a stupid move that exhibits massive overconfidence. The reason they do it is to reinforce Sauron's idea that Aragorn has the Ring. If he actually had it, he might win some battles but the Ring is going to be constantly telling him "challenge Sauron, you can overthrow him," he would try and fail and Sauron would recover the One.

>>220799096
glorfindel is elf jesus and I think its debatable if he even has a physical presence. Isn't he described in the same sort of weightless glowing golden light form as gandalf the white

>>220797659
Like I said it's half-baked.

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>>220796192
>terrifying wraiths
Yeah so terrifying they lose fights against girl boss womyn with zero combat training and toddler-like midgets from a peceful society. What a joke.

>In the first draft of the Council of Elrond, Glorfindel became a part of the Fellowship of the Ring, along with Durin son of Balin (who later became Gimli son of Glóin) and Trotter (later named Strider or Aragorn).

Aragorn "Del Boy" Trotter.

"Sauron, you plonker!!"

>>220799126
He appears physically on page later, the reason why he looks weird in his first appearance is that we're seeing him from Frodo's perspective, and Frodo is very nearly in the wraith-world himself, so he's seeing much more of his spiritual presence than his physical body.

>>220798968
>>220799041
Never realized it was the ring, but if you think about it all the rings magic is serving Saurons dominance, which is kinda interesting. Each one links back to him, each one controls some other thing. So at times it seems good comes from the rings, like washing away the wraiths. But it’s all born from extending his dominance over the material world. The other rings fail too once he no longer has power over the world.

>>220799166
He changed it because he realized Sauron would keep constant watch on the immortal elf that can respawn and is physically strong enough slay balrogs. So trotter got powered up to Aragorn and split into Aragorn and Faramir

>>220797215
>the great power of mordor
>defeated by stubbornness
bravo lucas

>>220799166
I trot.

Never really understood how the ring would tempt Gandalf honestly. He doesn't seek power in Middle Earth. He literally knows it's a lower plane of existence anyway. There's literally nothing Sauron could offer him that would ever make his existence even slightly better. I don't really understand how it tempted Frodo either. I think "so and so was corrupted by X" is typically really lazy writing. Tolkien obviously wasn't lazy but I don't get it

>>220799261
The dwarves were inspired by jewish diaspora. So it makes complete sense that they would become greedy and paranoid in a way that leads to their own self destruction

>>220799096
Wasn’t it presumed Aragorn could do well with the ring if he played his moves right though? From what I remember in the book, Sauron is amused because he thinks Aragorn made a blunder that he didn’t have to. Had Aragorn taken control of other men outside Middle Earth, he could’ve opposed Sauron more clearly. Sauron thinks he sees a checkmate earlier than expected. But this also means the ring could’ve been harnessed under Aragorn and Gondor for quite a while longer. They can definitely use its power for more than invisibility shit.

>>220799278
Was Gandalf really tempted? He was the Istari that was actually chosen for the mission. He had to be forced to go because he was too afraid of Sauron but he was the one they actually wanted to send.

Saruman and the blues volunteered. Radagast was picked by Yavanna and got distracted by her sidequest. Gandalf was protected by not wanting to be there and afraid of the enormity of the mission. he was spiritually the same as Sam and Frodo. He didn't want to be there and was only doing it because Eru had faith in him.

>>220799278
Gandalf is of the same grade of being (an angel basically) as Saruman and Saruman got tempted, corrupted and so on.

You can also ask why is Saruman even thinking, since he knows what the larger game is and that Eru can simply squash anything that doesn't pass a vibe check or send in the Valars to rearrange shit and nuke it if need be.

The answer is that both Sauron and Saruman think they're in the right. They believe what they're doing is actually correct and they're doing what needs to be done to fulfill their personal objective, which they think should be recognized by the powers that be. They're being uppity dicks about it, but that's their reasoning.
Similarly Gandalf can also go down that path and start thinking he knows best and that "lesser beings" around him are annoying and frustrating to deal with and instruct. You can see flashes of that kind of thinking every now and then when he gets frustrated with some character being obtuse or creating situations that complicate tasks and so on. If that is taken into its logical extreme Gandalf would start slowly to arrange stuff the way he thinks is best. Notice how he waltzed into two kingdoms and immediately did a regime change on the spot. Now imagine if he had less patience and was a bit more forceful. In his mind his cause is just so people that stand in his way just need to step aside or be removed, forcefully if necessary. Etc... that's why it was crucial for Gandalf not to go too far down that path... he left fate in the hands of hobbits, Aragorn and his allies as a check on himself.

>>220796192
Villains aren't known to be very smart

>>220799347
I thought he said if he had the ring he'd do terrible things. I'm a movie fag and I've seen some lore stuff, but never read the books. I just think the premise of an object that corrupts literally anyone is flawed when you can't express what the corruption would be based on. Frodo takes the ring for himself but why? What's it offering him? I would accept if the ring did something chemically to your brain that makes you rely on its presence like a drug or something and he just feels like he needs to keep it like gollum, and I would understand if it made you feel like you needed to kill yourself by sapping all your happiness and hope, but I don't really understand the premise of an object that can make people corrupt and bad when they aren't.

>>220799382
All I was getting at was he was aware of the lies it would tell him because he never wanted the position or the glory in the first place. Saruman falls because he wanted power, Galadriel was tempted because when she was young she wanted to be queen so refusing it was a big deal ect. Gandalf never wanted the BS so he could see the lies of the ring

>>220799369
>Saruman and Sauron know Eru can simply squash
That doesn't really make sense to me either. What's Sauron's victory condition? He doesn't have one right?

Your post is good but I dunno, maybe the Galadriel "in his place a queen" speech is movie shit and not canon but how can these characters be self aware enough to know themselves, know what evil is, and just be like "ya lol I'd do evil stuff then if i just had this thing." I do get what you're saying though, it's a good point. I just don't really buy it all the way. I sort of think this is akin to a redditfag idea of morality where anything you do to prevent evil from succeeding is somehow "just as bad" because you had to hurt some people or something.

>>220799307
Oh yeah, any powerful human with the Ring would be an extremely scary opponent. Their armies would never waver in morale, their enemies would run away without fighting, etc. The problem is that the Ring is sentient and wants to return to Sauron, and would betray them at some point; or Sauron would confront him directly and take the Ring.
There's a very neat hypothetical as to what would have happened if Frodo hadn't had Sam or Gollum around when he claimed the Ring at Sammath Naur, and how the Nazgul would have reacted when they arrived, written by Tolkien.
>>220799347
Gandalf says he's tempted and has no reason to lie. However, he has the self-awareness to know picking it up is a terrible idea. Even Frodo failed at the end. The Ring is telling him, "take me, use me for my intended purpose - raise armies, overthrow Sauron." Per Tolkien himself, Gandalf could have done it, but in doing so would have made himself a different, even worse version of Sauron.

>>220799449
Sauron is operating under the assumption that Eru has abandoned creation and all he has to do is overpower the fading valinor

>>220799449
Tolkien is basically saying that evil's weapons cannot be used to fight evil, it's a very Christian outlook on the world.
As to Sauron's win condition, it's not explained much in LOTR but he's basically an industrialist dictator who wants all the races in Middle-Earth to comply with his vision for how things should be ordered. From his perspective, he's bringing order to chaos and making the inefficient efficient.

If Gandalf becomes the ultimate wizard, it’s a slippery slope. I think Gandalf would probably be curious and have good intentions at first. But Tolkien didn’t explain what would happen in every case.

Frodo seemed screwed honestly, in the book the only thing he seems to get is dreams of Mordor and a feeling he is becoming a wraith or some shit? I agree he seems to get nothing out of it, while even Sam saw some power from it.

>>220797837

The ring is basically like a computer with internet access. You can use it to rot away in your mothers basement watching porn and lurking 4chins, or you can use it to create immense wealth or you can use it to cause harm to others and much more. It's a powerful tool but how you use it really defines the outcome. It's not a very difficult concept to grasp.

>>220799449
Context is important.
Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron and a bunch of others were all living together in Valinor way back when and hanging out with each other. A comparison would be as if they went to college together. They also knew the Valar and the whole "pantheon" over there. So all of this is known to them. It's not like they're some unrelated entities or "wizards" that sprung up separately and grew up like humans did.
What I'm getting at is that they all have a lot more knowledge of the setting and what's going on than what is happening during the events of the books.
Sauron was Morgoth's rent boy for a while but he still thinks he can arrange shit in middle earth that will earn him respect with the rest of the powers and that they'll let him do that. He's delusional, of course, but that's how he copes basically with being a degen. In his mind however he thinks he can get all of it arranged just right and then everything will be "perfect", just the way it's supposed to be.
It's essentially like arguing with an autistic person that needs everything to be "exactly right" and he'll get upset at you if you mess up his flow.

>>220796221
If I'm not mistaken wearing the ring grants different powers depending on who wears it. Hobbits turn in invisible because at their core they're basically invisible. Sauron didn't even know they existed

>>220799508
>As to Sauron's win condition, it's not explained much in LOTR but he's basically an industrialist dictator who wants all the races in Middle-Earth to comply with his vision for how things should be ordered. From his perspective, he's bringing order to chaos and making the inefficient efficient.
so sauron is playing factorio : middle earth?

>>220799508
The other rings were used though and they link back to him. Although ultimately they can’t defeat him with the other rings they can defeat orcs and whatnot with them

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>>220799539
Already a meme of that, that's how understood it is.

>>220797435
>tools that can essentially reverse magic entropy and make it so their domains stay the way they are
This is slop from RoPe of Trooners, kill yourself

>>220799536
I think invisibility is just one of the easier powers to get out of it in general. It’s the level 1 spell

>>220799515
lol we read the hobbit in school when i was like 8 and i was pretty into computers then (and now) and I always sort of imagined it as like, he had a sweet computer he could use to do fun stuff and then he lost it and I always felt bad for him and knew that would suck
>>220799466
aren't there plenty of valinor who are all orders of magnitude stronger than any maiar?
>>220799508
I've heard all this from like lore recaps lol and it doesn't make much sense to me. I remember when I was a kid after the first movie came out I had the Mad Magazine edition about LOTR and one of the lampoons was Sauron's plan to rule over a whole world of burning shit made very little sense. I never really got over that when looking at LOTR

>>220799554
kek

>>220799532
LOL

>>220799560
True, knowing how to control the ring's base level abilities is probably why elves and Sauron could use it for more than being invisible

>>220799561
>aren't there plenty of valinor who are all orders of magnitude stronger than any maiar?

of course, but so much time passed since they did anything that Sauron got it into his head that they won't do shit anymore and/or that he can get powerful enough to withstand it. again, it's just pride, vanity and autistic delusion.
Sauron at that point is like a drug user in the advanced stages of addiction where you can't really talk sense into him anymore and he's constantly high on his own bullshit. if you confront him or do an intervention he'll just go ballistic

>>220799561
Tolkien wrote a lot of letters and extended background material. Basically Sauron is an autistic apprentice of the god of engineering who choses to worship satan because satan "moves fast and breaks things"

>>220799560
>>220799536
see
>>220797498

>>220799166
>Aragorn "Del Boy" Trotter.
>"Sauron, you plonker!!"
The fuck is this schizo babble

>>220799524
that they all know this makes no sense to me. I would get it if they had so much incarnation amnesia they only sort of knew what was going on, but just a google search shows there are all sorts of corrupted maiar to the point that it's basically the norm. Everyone gets corrupted bla bla bla it's like blizzard wrote this shit

>>220799605
Therefore Boromir would've just been corrupted by it and turned invisible if he put it on. It needs Elves, Maiar or the other magic god races to even begin to use it correctly, right?

>>220799603
Some of this is giga interesting it’s a shame rings of power was slop fanfics instead of exploring this lore

>>220799627
Tolkien changed his mind about shit all the time and kept tinkering with their backstories until, just like in any other fictional universe, everyone ended up knowing everyone and the entire setting is not full of mystery but just revolving around the same group of characters that all knew each other.

>>220799640
kind of ironic lotr fans can't seem to nooootice the real reason rings of power was bad

>>220799627
They are living out a play they already wrote, all of reality is a projection of a jazz song they sung together so they already kinda know the roles they sung for themselves

>>220799603
so sauron is venture capital/startups?

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>>220797435
>Elven rings

>>220799661
>the kingdom of gondor is IBM

>>220799639
Aragorn can use it well enough Sauron is worried about him, Boromir who knows but he is from the same lineage

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>you have been summoned to answer the threat of mordor
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boS3WJ7lxJM

>>220799661
Yes
HB1 = orc

>>220799682
Isidulr couldn't use it correctly though right? Why would Aragorn have done any better with it?

>>220799682
I think Sauron's fear is primarily in the fact that the ring would not corrupt Aragorn fast enough so he might actually defeat Sauron before the full-on corruption takes hold.
From what we've seen it takes a bit for it to do that, and at that point in the story things are moving fast.

>>220799655
There are 50 reasons. Sure, a mega corporation bent on industrialization and technological exploitation of mankind isn't a good commanding influence. But having a writers room full of women and gay guys was never going to work either no matter who was paying for it

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why are we so obsessed with lotr bros

>>220799728
Because it's that fucking good

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>>220799706
Maybe Aragorn is just a better man

Also does anyone remember that time they had a guy who looked exactly like Aragorn as depicted by however you spell the actors name in the OT and cast him as Sauron and not Isildur for some reason?

>>220799639
Just being around the Ring is enough to be tempted/corrupted, Smeagol literally killed a relative for it within minutes. The corruption has more to do with lack of self-awareness, arrogance, and pride.
But yes, he would have been invisible if he put it on. So would Aragorn, or any of the Fellowship besides Gandalf. Maybe Legolas, but I don't think the non-high Elves have the same spiritual presence as the big dogs like Galadriel.
As to using it correctly, Galadriel explains to Frodo that basically more powerful people get more out of it. Technically both Sam and Frodo use it for it's intended purpose - controlling minds of others - in LOTR, but they are not very flashy or impressive because they are hobbits and can't do much more with it. But yes, to get true power out of it you need to be powerful yourself.

>>220799724
There's only one reason. They hate Christians, beauty, goodness, and high art.

>>220799741
They did it purely to subvert expectations.

>>220799741
Because Rings of Power is an absolute shit show and I refuse to hear any more about its existence

>>220799728
If was the last great media series before the age of shitty identity politics and demoralising psyops began

>>220799554
Delete this gay shit for rangs redditors

>>220796221
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>>220796833
That makes the ring sound like Saruman's loyal tulpa waifu. I'm kinda jealous honestly. Ring is certainly more loyal than a woman would be.

>>220799766
ya... hey what's the racial demographic of the original lotr trilogy cast? Wonder if that could have something to do with it

It's just an evil ring its not so deep.

>>220799785
Sauron I mean not Saruman.

>>220799790
>middle earth lore isn't deep

Sweet summer child...

>>220799795
qrd?

>>220799795
>Replaced by a basic bitch ass troll
Doesn't that make Aragorn look weak?

>>220799785
Suron had a goth baddie shape shifter that he shared a rape castle with guarded by bats and werewolves.

She gets skinned alive and used as a cape by the "heroes"

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>>220799778
The show had its moments

>>220799795
I'm glad Peter Jackson changed his mind and just made this a random troll fight

>>220799716
Sauron is also just a massive pussy in general, the living embodiment of an armchair general. He's scared of Aragorn not because he thinks he can master the Ring but because he's the descendant of the guy who beat him last time, has the sword that killed him last time, and because Aragorn isn't frightened of him and even manages to win the "battle of wills" over the Palantir with him.
At the Black Gate, he's not scared in the slightest, he's playing with his food.

>>220799831
is that real?

>>220799819
When Aragorn fights the troll at the end of RotK it was going to be against Sauron in person with even an Anatar like ghost thing. They made the right choice and just made it Aragorn fighting some troll

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>tfw when you start a new game of Factorio after not playing it for a while

>>220799126
>>220799231
I forget. Is final-draft Glorfindel totally confirmed to be first age Glorfindel? I thought I recall it being debatable by the time of final publication

>>220799795
this makes sauron look like a weak bitch, thank god it changed

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>>220799841
As real as anything

>>220799855
No one asked for your faggot tier memes about your faggot show. Jump off a bridge

>>220799878
is THAT real???

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>>220799885
Sorry this is a Rings of Power board.

>be me
>talking with my 70 year old friend about movies
>mention LOTR
>he starts spazzing out about how the cave troll being CGI ruined the movie and it should have been stop motion like Sinbad and those other movies from like the 60s
>tell him those don't look that great and lotr looks spectacular
>NO IT LOOKED FLAT AS SHIT
Actually I think he was right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtYVbnVQR6M

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>>220799873
>Glorfindel

Why no, I won't be bothered to be a character in your movie

>>220799910
His 70 year old brain is just remembering what he imagined as a kid differently. But yeah some of the CGI hasn't aged too well but it's serviceable

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>>220799855
>>220799831
>>220799878
>>220799899
Can't wait to watch all your threads get ruined as your tranny series continues to be the biggest laughingstock of the media world

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>>220799899
You know I was watching the RLM episode with the guy who plays Hughie from the boys, and on the boys he's like a wimpy loser character but it was striking how much a "hollywood average/unattractive nerd" mogs regular people in actual real life, and this girl just doesn't look like what she's supposed to look like. She's a terrible actress but even before she says a word her face just doesn't have it. Same is true for every single actor in rangs except for maybe the guy who played Sauron and he's still a very weak imitation compared to Vito who looked every inch the part

>>220799931
It's just the "I'm angry and strong" facial expressions that ruin everything these days. Galadriel is supposed to be elegant and powerful. Not "cheeeessed to meet you" girl boss Galadriel

>>220799926
I feel like the only real flaws in the lotr trilogy are
>casting orlando bloom (literally every other role is perfectly cast)
>all scenes with the army of the dead

>>220799950
nah she isn't doing that stupid face she does all the time in this scene
>>220799878
and it's still impossible to imagine her as Galadriel

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>>220799931
I thought she was the best thing about RoP, just too short to play Galadriel.

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>>220799951
Don't you talk shit about Orlando Bloom as Legolas. He was my hero as a kid

>>220799965
Christ... buddy you thought wrong

But maybe she was. I watched a few episodes with a buddy for a laugh and every single actor was worse looking than the last. And I don't even mean the fat black dwarf... like elrond and every single dwarf just looked fucking ridiculous so maybe Galadriel was the best part

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>>220799795
i could heem sauron

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>>220799899
>Sorry this is a Rings of Power board
Gathering together to shit your threads up so badly that 99% of the posts are finding creative ways to rangzpost or call it goyslop is a month long national holiday for the entire board each season

>>220799979
The entire cast is a bit too bong-y.

>>220799823
I now understand why he did what he did.

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>>220799988
relax, nerd. you're trying too hard

>>220799965
>>220799980
Good morning random mindbroken Indian. Please find another thread

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I've seen Faramir's penis

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>>220799950
Especially as by this point in her life Galadriel should a relatively new mother to Celebrian.
>>220799951
That's a little generous, there's the silly Faramir plotline, Gandalf and the Witch-King's confrontation, the Elves showing up to Helm's Deep, and a few of the battle scenes.
But on the whole about as good as you can expect an adaptation to be.
(I am still mad we didn't get this incredible confrontation)

>>220800004
You are completely alone on this site and everyone you encounter here hates you

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>>220800015
I never read LOTR for some reason so anything that wasn't adapted quite right doesn't bother me.
>about as good as you can expect an adaptation to be
The soundtrack alone is an impressive work of art. There won't ever be movies like the lotr trilogy again.

>>220800032
Not engaging in discussion with you. Slit your wrists and/or go back to r/lotronprime

>>220800032
hobbit trilogy is almost as bad as rangz. I legit walked out of the 1st one i forced my girlfriend to leave with me

I'm not even a lotr fan really I've never read the books

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>>220800032
Like anyone watched The Hobbit more than once and realized it was fucking terrible

>>220800052
I always watch the Hobbit movies and the LotR movies in one go during my yearly rewatch.

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>>220800050
It's never going to catch on. You've been trying with this mentally ill simp spamming for 4 years, just give up

>>220800066
I don't know how you do it. The Hobbit trilogy was really fucking bad

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>>220800087
kek what a joke, poor girl

>>220800092
I've heard the "theatrically trained actress" argument and I believe it. They train to be overly expressive on stage

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>>220800092
She's just cheesed to meet you.

>>220800100
She did well in Saint Maude, she just looks more mousey than Cate.

>>220796788
>>220797273

>>220797273
The Ring has other powers, but in Fellowship (the book) Gandalf warns Frodo not to try calling on them, because the Ring would probably destroy him. By Two Towers Frodo can force Gollum to swear oaths on it, and Sam sees Frodo temporarily change a bit when he does.

>>220800190
is book Frodo cool? I imagine him being cool

>>220800236
The movies make the hobbits come off too child-like and kind of derpy.
In the books they're clearly stand-ins for the reader and more sharpish and observant and also meant to convey "rural folk" compared to everyone else who is into "big city schemes".
A lot of that is lost in the movies since as a viewer you are taken in by the setting first and foremost in totality so hobbits are presented more dummy-like.

>>220799790
There's hundreds of Warhammer books and only three Lord of Ring books. Warhammer is much more complex.

>>220800236
When they get back to The Shire, Merry and Pippin are grizzled war veterans decked out in Rohan and Gondor armor, with shields and swords and they're the coolest most badass hobbits anybody has ever seen.

>>220800376
this reminds me of in the hobbit when bilbo gets back to the shire that entire book was one of the comfiest things ever

now they're trying to destroy all comfy things in the world and i might have to kill myself

>>220797929
but then how can gollum jump on invisible frodo and bite his finger off

>>220800413
Because the Ring made him do it

>>220800413
Eru allowed it just that once

>>220800439
I don't like the idea of Tolkien acknowledging Calvinism

>>220796192
It also stops you from aging you fucking idiot.
HEY EVERYONE OP IS STUPID

The worst consequence of the LotR movies was iqlets discussing it outside of /lit/

>>220800568
>lit
Dumbest board on 4chan

>>220797215
You're wrong. The Three Rings were made by the elves completely separate from the others, without Sauron's input.

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>beren be like when luthien tries to steal his lunch

>>220799524
>Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron and a bunch of others were all living together in Valinor

They didn't, retard. Neither ever set foot on Valinor prior to arriving to Middle-Earth.

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>>220800394
Try some Malcolm Guite videos, its really warm and old fashioned Tolkien discussion

>>220796192
Why didn't Sauron just make another ring?

>>220800709
The technology was lost

>>220800810
Why

>>220800888
The Age of Knowing How to Make the Rings of Power was over. That knowledge left Middle-Earth forever and returned to its home galaxy.

>>220800636
umm

>>220796192
The ring amplifies a person's abillities. For Hobbits, they are so small they are overlooked, so the ring makes them completely undetectable (except for Sauron who always knows when someone wears his ring). In the hands of Boromir it would likely grant him an a charisma that bends his fellow men. In the hands of Sauron or someone of his caliber the ring can perform unspeakable magic, conquer all of Middle Earth.

>>220800709
The Ring is Sauron, he poured himself into the Ring. He can't make another ring because he can't make another Sauron.

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In two towers he didn't die except in the extended cut

>>220798693
Stop pretending like this shit was anything other than Tolkien retconning the ring to be more powerful than it originally was in the Hobbit.

>>220801804
>get owned like a bitchfaggot
>move the goals anyway

every time lol nice concession

>>220800568
this thread might be one of the most retarded dialogues i’ve ever witnessed. I forget that everyone ITT is most likely a zoomer, and who hasn’t read a book

>>220801820
>"Isildur turned west, and drawing up the Ring that hung in a wallet from a fine chain about his neck, he set it upon his finger with a cry of pain, and was never seen again by any eye upon Middle-earth. But the Elendilmir of the West could not be quenched, and suddenly it blazed forth red and wrathful as a burning star. Men and Orcs gave way in fear; and Isildur, drawing a hood over his head, vanished into the night."

>"Up to then it had been known [...] that Isildur and the Ring, separately or together, must have been lost in the River, for if Isildur had reached the west shore wearing the Ring he should have eluded the watch."

>The Disaster of the Gladden Fields, Unfinished Tales

>>220796192
Tolkien wanted a metaphor of how Le power can turn good well meaning men into tyrants, but put no effort into describing what the ring actually does

>>220799831
>>220799878
What a flaming pile of shit

>>220800010
Okay, you gonna share with the class or keep it to yourself?

>>220796192
WHAT THE FUCK?!

>>220802697
Look up the actor. Netflix used to have a lot of smut on it when they first started streaming and he was in some movie I wanted to fap to but it was more of Faramir cock and balls than tits and I couldn't get off to that.

>>220799382
>but I don't really understand the premise of an object that can make people corrupt and bad when they aren't.
Its an alagory for power.
>absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Thats the reasoning.

>>220799532
And then he would lose for about 50% of the fight get a bullshit power boost and then win.

>>220799878
Don’t the elves have a kingdom
Why is she so opposed to ruling something
I get it’s Sauron and all but the word “rule” being where she draws the line in the sand seems odd.

>>220800587
Nta but technically the Three were made using Sauron's knowledge, they were designed based on his accumulated Ring-lore and so they were still bound to the One. He just didn't personally do the forging.

>>220800709
He literally cannot, he doesn't have the magic left.

It's because to create something magical in Tolkien isn't just smithing up a ring. Especially not a Ring of Power, and even especially not the One. It involves putting yourself into your creation, some part of your own soul and spirit, because you lack the power of Eru which is Creation Ex Nihilo. Sauron couldn't make another One because he poured so much of himself into the One that without it he was much lessened, and if it were to be destroyed so too would he be. While he still had it it amplified him, but without it he was less than he had been before making it.

Because of that, the Ring was also almost indestructible, beating so much of Sauron as a part of itself. So Mount Doom was the place to destroy it because it could only be unmade by either the same fires that created it, something even hotter, or someone with more skill than Sauron. Dragonfire burned hot enough to melt other Rings, but Gandalf wasn't sure even Ancalagon's fire could quench the One. And while there were also those with the craft to unmake it, they were pretty much unavailable (Aule is a Vala, and Feanor is in the Halls of Mando).

You guys are really overthinking this. Tolkien threw these books together over the course of one weekend since he was desperate and had to cover his rent. He didn’t waste time on magical power levels, he made all that arbitrary. You’re putting 1000x more thought into these little stories than he ever did

>>220800004
I mean I would but shes still a 7

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>The ring tries to tempt Sam with visions of gardens extending as far as the eye can see, with endress fruits and vegetables for anyone to eat
>Sam refuses the ring's offer because he wants a private garden that he can tend by himself and fruits and veggies only he can eat.

A little selfish this fat FUCK.

>>220797528
You’re just a fag, pathetically trying to make LotR seem stupid because your gay woke slop show failed kys

>>220799136
No it isn't. You're just a retarded faggot who needs everything explained to them like a child.

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>>220799931
Cate is in a untouchable tier of her own

>>220803604
You're joking but a certain % of people itt are brown or shills with poor comprehension skills and low iq who actively try to figure out how to drag this western magnum opus through the mud to wrench the right wing and trads away from it.
These people literally cannot infer information and can only parrot and understand that which is literally written down. You should have seen the shill task force deployed for harry potter, they could not detect or comprehend humorous sarcasm in the writing.

>>220798693 been real quiet since >>220802127
dropped

>>220803780
>>220803762
Damn bro you having a melty there

>>220799165
In fairness, this makes more sense in the book because Merry has a dagger that was specifically forged to fight undead and weaken them. They pulled these daggers out of a barrow filled with wights.
In the book he stabs the nazgul in the back and its implied it shifts back into the mortal realm fully, which would let anybody walk up and stab him in the face. In this case eowyn is right there and kills him.

i will always laugh at OP

>>220803749
Sam is singlehandedly responsible for regrowing the entirety of the Shire after Saruman burnt it to the ground tho.

>>220796192
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>>220796232
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>>220797295
But the ring does give power

Always remember the tolkien exchange where he explains that god helped at the end, and when some nerd fag says "You mean Eru?!?" and tolkien says "i mean the one true god"

Love to imagine his expression.

>>220796192
Boromir was poisoned by the ring, retard.
He can't think clearly.

>>220807396
And then the breasts of the nerd fag enlarge and Tolkien says "did I give you permission to transition?"

>>220807396
Why hasn't God reincarnated him as Tolkien the White and sent him back to Earth to lead the realms of men to victory against darkness?

>we have tarnhelm at home

>>220796192
Let's say you guys could use the ring for a few hundred years to turn invisible and stay young before it turned you into a gollum would it be worth it?

>1500 pages later after all the mucking around God just shows up to push the ring into the lava along with some degen, which just vaporizes the main villain

Great story bro.

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You guys ever think about how funny it is that intentionally stupid and reductive Tolkien-posting has attracted brown people who actually believe that Tolkien had written his work this way?

>>220798961
Sauron had already regenerated his physical form at that point but needed the ring to be at full power. I think one of the special editions has a previz of Sauron heading his army against Aragorn in the final battle where he appears without armor as a being of light but they chose not to do that for the final cut. I'm glad because it would have been corny to see Aragorn fighting him directly.

>>220807930
I think it's funny that schizo people like you have now added brown people (jeets specifically) in the ever growing list of entities that gang stalk you and are ruining your life.

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>>220796192
>>220796221
What's so hard to get? Do you also get confused, when strategy games give a character +10 to their Authority stat?
It's very obvious and clear what the ring does, if you have ever played a strategy game. Any kingdom, who wields the one ring, is going to have their authority internally respected, be able to pool the kingdom's resources into many building projects and raise many armies, who are motivated to fight for him.

>>220807878
Gollum threw himself into the lava, because he broke the oath he swore on the ring. He basically cursed himself to have destiny/Eru or his own consciousnesses throw him into the lava and in a magical fantasy world these things are basically the same.

>>220807878
God was pushing stuff along the whole time. He made Bilbo find the ring, made Bilbo adopt Frodo, called everyone to the council of elrond, etc.

>>220808299
>He basically cursed himself to have destiny/Eru or his own consciousnesses throw him into the lava and in a magical fantasy world these things are basically the same.

I bet that sounded better in your autistic mind.

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im buying lego minas tirith
denethor has tomatoes

>>220808403
I'm a normie and it makes perfect sense. You're just a discord zoomer gay guy who doesn't like lotr and should just go to another thread.

>>220808813
>I'm a normie

>>220800236
Frodo's journey and struggles brings me to tears, even just thinking about it too hard. I don't think any other character in any other media has anywhere near a similar effect on me. He is such a fucking good person who just wants to save the world and be happy. All the responsibilities thrust upon him are soul crushing.
Sam, Merry and Pippin all get happy endings. Frodo suffers from PTSD for decades to the point he has to go to Valinor and get spiritually cleansed. At least Sam finally joins him after his wife dies.

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>>220808250
The idea of the grotesque media heirarchy in which the modern First Estate (Jews) finance and dictate basic spiritual terms to writers and showrunners (Gay guys, Feminists, Simps) in order to produce a product for the adoration of a witless and disgusting global underclass (Jeets) is perfectly consistent and there's nothing new about sneering at any part of it or all of it in unison.

>>220808635
I'd love to have this or the Rivendell one but legos are so fucking expensive

>>220808250
Indians single handedly fetishized feet in like 5 years

>>220798693
Isildur's death was written in the books, secondary

>>220802127
Fuck the other questions in this thread. The real question, whether it's his cloak or the ringwraiths cloaks are what governs clothing invisibility during general ring invisibility.

>>220803421
>absolute power corrupts absolutely
I don't think that's true though, it's just something people hear and repeat

>>220807760
he was too stupid to realize the jews are the problem

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>>220809094
You will place all the pieces in a large bowl and every night where you eat at a 250 calorie deficit and do 50 total pushups, you may pull 10 pieces and add them to the model

>>220809176
im not that fat

>>220796221
Sauron is permanently a shadowy ghost being like Nazguls were after he lost his body in the war (he needed the ring to reform). Nazguls were ringbearers too.

If a mortal puts on the ring it sucks him closer to shadow realm, this is why Eye and Nazguls see you better when you put it on.

>>220799873
No, but it is confirmed that the third age Glorfindel did respawn. So it would be likely he is the guy. Technically he could be someone unknown who respawned but that would be idiotic

>>220809031
no, porn did it

>>220796221
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>>220796833
Why did he put his soul and power into a ring if he already had said power? What's he getting out of the deal?

>>220809235
Didn't Gollum witness his physical body, missing finger and all? His physical body was reforming in The Hobbit as the Necromancer. It wasn't until the ring was destroyed that his physical self was no longer bond to Arda at which point he became an shadow again and Eru blew him away into the winds.

>>220809487
Why not put his power and soul into something harder to remove like a buttplug.
Why even TELL people you did it, just keep the buttplug in at all times and nobody will know you made it and are wearing it.
Everyone would just go "wow Sauron got a bit more perky and powerful today good on him"

>>220808218
He does wear his armor in the deleted scene, it was just conjured after he challenges Aragorn. Looks pretty cool desu.

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>>220810727
Forgot to attach pic

>>220798039
>Thats what it does, its dumb, but thats exactly how it works.
It's not dumb and it makes perfect sense. It's like an addiction that everyone has by virtue of being in Middle Earth

>>220796192
>and attract terrifying wraiths
one of them is canonically female, so

>>220811603
The fuck are you talking about, retard

Why just be next door neighbors will Hell Land that's constantly attacking your cities and you can do nothing about it? Oh wait that sound familiar.

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NO PLEASE WITCH KING I'LL SUCK YOUR FUCKING COCK! YOU WANT ME TO EAT SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT IN MINAS MORGUL!

>>220798554
Except logs.

We should give the ring to Sauron's Man, he will know what to do.

>>220796221
>>220796192
It's because mortals can't use it properly.

It's main effects are:
>Strengthen inherent abilities
>Push the wearer deeper into the spiritual realm

The second part makes mortals like Frodo look invisible to other mortals and untrained elves. Elves exist partially in the spiritual realm too, so they might still be able to perceive you to some degree.

>>220810762
Isn't Sauron just still a recovering little bitch in Bao Dur and needs his minions to do his bidding?

>>220796221
the power of the ring is domination and control of others.

sauron, even at full strength with his ring, routinely gets his ass smashed by multiple other people. saurons greatest feat was getting the numenoreans to attack god (and getting them wiped out). the numenoreans could have butt-raped sauron, but ended up becoming his slaves.

his strength is his ability to corrupt, pervert, and dominate others. the ring is an extension of sauron, it increases his ability to dominate and influence others, but in particular, controls other ring bearers. the main intention of the ring was to allow him to control and dominate basically every king of middle-earth, and thus control everyone. that's what sauron wants, to rule instead of being a slave.

the ring itself does contain a lot of potential power, but like all the rings in the book, you need to understand how to use them, and because sauron is an almost primordial force of corruption, even if you understand how to use the ring to dominate others, you will, unsurprisingly, just end up getting corrupted and controlled by the mind-control ring itself, because ultimately its main purpose is not general domination, but domination by sauron, himself.

turning invisible and being exposed to wraiths is not a good thing, and it isn't supposed to be a good thing. the ring is more or less universally evil. the idea that whoever owns the ring could actually use it to dominate and control others and rule the world as an immortal is an explicit lie that's pushed upon them by sauron through the ring. sauron almost always starts his control of people by lying about gifts. the ring is wholly bad to everyone, you can't use it, (unless you want to become a mind-controlled wraith/ghoul) and if its used by sauron, increases his ability to mind-fuck, lie, and enslave others.

that's why there is only one rational option, to destroy it. everyone 'knows' it must be done, but almost all are incapable of doing it.

>>220812310
I don't know why it being a ring confuses people
If it was like a silver tongue cut from the devil people would get it instantly

>>220812383
Because Tolkien fucked up and initially (in The Hobbit) presented it as an invisibility ring. These other traits and it being Sauron's One Ring are retconned in.
Plus whenever the ring is used the immediate effect is invisibility, with the other effects "down the line".
This also tracks with it being essentially a metaphor for drug addiction. Even if you use it slightly it affects you, and if you use it a lot it fucks you up, yet the whole time you think you're getting benefits from it.

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>>220811923
in the uncut and unmolested edition you can see his physical form in the palantir when aragorn shows him the sword as bait

>>220812310
It strengthens Sauron's ability to influence and control others, because those are his greatest strengths to begin with. Gandalf or Saruman would not gain the same abilities if they used the ring.

>>220813805
>Copy pasted forge pose from the intro
Lame

>>220799965
She just looks . . . Welsh.

>>220813920
he actually holds a palantir aswell

>>220813805
Pretty gay. I always pictured Sauron all weak from losing the Ring just glued to his palantir

the goofy weathertop fight was straight outta Scream or something that stupid ring wraith flopping his hands after Aragoon fed him the torch

>>220814262
It's awesome though

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why did sauron rely on orcs if they sucked at fighting?

>>220814290
because he could control them, but he prefered men and elves, that was what the ring was meant to fdo. Give him control over the free peoples like he did the orcs

>>220814239
galadriel basically bitchslaps sauron back to the east in the hobbit

>>220799778
lmao fuck off

>>220799841
it's kino

>>220796232
>lets use it against sauron' argument,
It makes invincible ghost Armies, duh