>Jackson said that a “combination of Warner’s and us have been talking to the younger Tolkien members about the possibility of actually licensing some of the rights to the other books,” https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYV7e4hNF2X/
>>220803746I thought they had rights to the Third Age, not just the Lord of the Rings specifically.
When is enough enough with this shit? Doesn't he want to make his own originals
Fuck yeah they're going to squeeze in two movies worth of girlbossing gay browns before they run out of money and release the third one direct to streaming
>>220803807iirc that still makes sense, since the silmarillion takes place before the Third Age of Middle Earth.
>>220803746>elves (albus / white) fuck non-elves (non-whites)>the origin of the orcs (mutts) is finally explained>elves must pay reparations to their bastards (just like in current USA)
>>220803746I actually like the silmarillion and don't want to see a modern rape I MEAN "adaptation"
In the beginning, Ea decided to exert HER power of creation, so he made a bunch of angel type helper people, most of which were gay brown girlbosses, but one angel person was racist and opposed to people loving each other, so he decided to wreck everything.Ea was sad, but HER power and vision was so great that she foresaw that the resolution of this conflict would yield even greater creations. So she allowed the evil racist angel to fight with the gay brown girlbosses.Gandalf is a now a gay brown
>>220803746Did Jackson actually did anything hurtful to Tolkien's canon? Even "The Hobbit" mostly used elements from other Tolkien sources, it was simply stretched into three movies (which wasn't Jackson's decision).
>>220804743>Even "The Hobbit" mostly used elements from other Tolkien sourcesBull fucking shit it did, all Tolkien told us about the white council fighting Sauron in Mirkwood comprised like a single paragraph in the LotR appendices.
>>220804830You also have things like Tolkien writing in one of his letters he should've added Legolas into the books, seeing as it makes no sense he isn't present in the story at all.
I'm optimistic we'll see a legacy sequel to the trilogy in our lifetime. Fuck bros, I'm so hyped. Imagine Old King Aragorn slaying orcs. That's so fucking badass.
>>220804868And what letter is that exactly?
>>220804911>Fourteen years after the passing of Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin set out to retrace the first steps of their adventure. Meanwhile, Sam’s daughter, Elanor, has discovered a long-buried secret and is determined to uncover why the War of the Ring was very nearly lost before it even began,” the synopsis reads.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/stephen-colbert-writing-lord-of-the-rings-movie-1236546504/Stephen Colbert is writing it and it’s on Sam’s daughter
>>220804940That doesn't sound like a legacy sequel at all. More like some weird meta epilogue. I want to see Sauron 3.0 and more awzum fights with our favorite heroes passing the torch.
>>220803746Someone already made the Silmarilion movie and uploaded it to YouTube like ten years ago.
>>220804940What's the long-buried secret? I'm not familiar at all with the expanded lore.
>>220803746Would be nice... if he learned something from the bad things about The Hobbit movies (still infinitely better than Amazon 's Rangz of Powah)
>>220804911I'm optimistic Jackson won't live that long. He's always been in shithouse shape.
>>220804940I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Is there even a source for a new conflict? I know Tolkien at some point worked on a sequel to LOTR but abandoned the idea.
>>220805021>>220804911Kill yourself you reddit-slurping faggot
>>220803746I seem to recall the faggot Balrog getting the worst of it and dragging Glorfindel to his death by the hair.
>>220805087>>220805050The reason and conflict is that girls and black hobbits have to have adventures with muslim rohirrim
>>220805094Eat my shit, the fan silmarilion project is tits and its 100% free of blacks
>read by Andy Serkisi hate this fucking dude so much
>>220805087He wrote literally 2 pages and gave upthis is pure fanfic
>>220805094so much virtue
>>220803746Can't wait until they ruin this like Star Shit and capeshit and then at least theres a slight chance some actual real movies will get made instead of this cringe crap.
>>220805113My bad, man. Second barrel was for >>220804976
>>220805107The harsh language: The author of the post uses a highly offensive slur to describe the Balrog. Why it's there: On anonymous internet forums like the one you are viewing, users often use harsh, aggressive, or offensive language casually to sound edgy, make a joke, or show disrespect toward a character (in this case, insulting the monster that killed the hero). It does not have a literal meaning here; it is just being used as a crude insult.Summary: The person is simply trying to remember a piece of fantasy lore. They are saying, "I remember the elf Glorfindel beating that monster, but the monster cheated at the last second by grabbing the elf's hair and pulling him off a cliff with it."
>>220805128>durr I wanna thee thuper aragorn in then thimes the baddles bad freakin assPut that bag over your face and slit your wrists. You're why rings of power exists
>>220804976fuck offdie eventhe hobbit adaptation was for you
>taking bait that weak
>>220805167Lmao I thought this place was smarter than Reddit. Do I really need to put an /s at the end?
>>220805166as I posted >>220805128 but not >>220804976 I think it can safely be said that you, anon, are a stupid cunt
>>220804929NTA, but:>According to the book The Hobbit: Mr Baggins and Return to Bag-End by John D. Rateliff, Tolkien attempted to rewrite The Hobbit in the 1960s to correct these inconsistencies but abandoned the project after only a few chapters.
>>220805186>I thought this place was smarter than Reddit
Alright you dumb fucks. I thought this board was full of Tolkien """""scholars""""". But so far no one is able to explain what's the conflict or the story of this Colbert movie if it actually is gonna be a sequel.
>>220803746after the disaster that was The Hobbit movies, are we sure Hackson can direct Silmarillion?
>>220804940>>220805050>>220805112It'll be about Tom Bombadil, the Barrows etc. Essentially filling in the missing chapters.
>>220805194There's been a rash of unironic (paid/Indian) RoPe posting lately as we approach release date. Think about what it takes to do that, so the timing is bad friend
>>220805220It's this >>220805224. Essentially another midquel covering chapters the movies omitted.
>>220803819He's just looking for something the studios will give him a big payout for to leave to his kids. Any more LOTR movies he makes will be entirely green screen so he can direct it without getting out of his chair like the Star Wars prequels.
>>220804743female elf was nowhere in the books
>>220805224>>220805234It's set after ROTK so it has nothing to do with "omitted chapters". It's just shitty fanfiction with no basis in the existing universe and it's going to suck ass and be gay aids
>>220805258The framing device is Sam's daughter discovering this while journeying around and outside the Shire. Jackson has said as much.
>>220805220>Tolkien """""scholars""""">no one is able to explain what's the conflict or the story of this Colbert movieWhy would a Tolkien fan know what kind of ghetto abomination Colbert is going to unleash
>>220805286so a middle schooler's fanfic sequel. there's not the slightest prompt to set this scenario up from anything in Tolkien's universe
>>220803774amazon did it first
>>220805303Do you lack reading comprehension?
>>220805339Most people do nowadays.
>>220805237>He's just looking for something the studios will give him a big payout for to leave to his kids.he's already a billionaire, if he adapts anything from the silmarillion it's because he wants to, not because he needs a payday.
>>220804743Yes, he added horror elements and millennial grimdark. His changes are what make the movies great specifically because they establish something new and different, but there's no question it's a change to Tolkien.
>>220804940Sam's daughter, a brown gay girlboss, is going on a sassy adventure all her own where she will meet a friendly sexy gay brown orc girlboss and they will team up to easily defeat racist white rich men
>>220805339No, but I think you do, since you either intentionally didn't address what I said directly or are just writing random shit in replies to me
Then it should be public domain.
>>220803746It's kind of sad how most of the people involved in those films haven't been able to move past them. It's been 25 years, we should have a completely new, more faithful adaptation by now, not Andy Serkis directs Andy Serkis as Gollum spinoffs and Ian McKellan saying he'll never let anyone else be Gandalf while he's alive.
>>220804743Not really but Hobbit was made 10+ years ago and lotr 20+ years.If it was made today the hollywood diversity checklist and cg spam would make it really bad.
>>220803746Its sad that we will watch LOTR go down the same path as Star Wars in our life times.
>>220804743>Young, useless Frodo so that "Sam is the real hero of the story">Aragorn a typical Hollywood reluctant hero doing it all for the love of a good woman>Comic relief Gimli>Theoden under a literal spell>Quipping warrior Arwen stealing Frodo's strongest moment at the Ford>Saturday morning cartoon villain Denethor>Death fakeout after death fakeout in a story that already contained one massive death fakeout.
>>220805289i guarantee colbert knows more about lotr than you do. or anyone ITT does.
>>220805527>make movie about how le west has fallen and this is its last stand>it actually happenssurprised pikachu
>>220804743the hobbit movies were complete dogshit
>>220805352Somewhere i read that orcs and goblins were supposed to to represent niggers and other minorities. So yes they are sullying the messages Tolkien was trying to convey by pretending that niggers are humans.
>>220805207Those had fuck all to do with Legolas.
>>220805759He's the prince of Mirkwood, it's actually strange he's completely missing from a story where their army goes to war.
>>220805600>Young, useless FrodoYou mean he discerned the essence of a faceless character and gave him a defining depiction for all times>Aragorn a typical Hollywood reluctant hero doing it all for the love of a good womanThe hair. You mean to criticize his hair. None of what you actually said is a valid criticism or even correct. Reluctance to take the ring is the only thing separating him from Boromir in a positive light, without that his actions could be seen as cowardly rather than wise. >Comic relief GimliThe dwarf storyline is extremely grim, no one was asking for more. >Theoden under a literal spellThat whole arc is flawless and I don't see how it hurts the canon. Still a 10/10 Theoden.>Quipping warrior Arwen stealing Frodo's strongest moment at the FordLiv Tyler instead of another blonde elf was inspired from a filmmaking perspective, but in terms of lore this is valid.>Saturday morning cartoon villain DenethorHe was fine. Not great, but there was no time to establish the subtle madness from the books. The palantir is the perfect device tying everything together logically, thematically, visually. It's really fantastic work from Jackson. >Death fakeout after death fakeout in a story that already contained one massive death fakeout.valid criticism although it was kino, and I can think of several fakeouts. Frodo stabbed by the troll, somehow Gandalf returned, Frodo stung by Shelob. IIRC they all play out the same in the books, I'd say Frodo getting captured isn't a fakeout. Point being, Jackson wasn't out of his lane. The OC sequence is a transplanted houses of healing anyway.
>>220803746 the Silmarillion is not a novel, it's collection of stories. The only way it would work is as series, but Jacksons ego won't allow him to work on series.it's DOA.
*over a black screen, a singular note plays *as the darkness of void is slowly illuminated with pin pricks of light, a symphony begins to build*a booming narrator speaks>There was Eru, the One, who in Arda is called Ilúvatar; and he made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made. And he spoke to them, propounding to themthemes of music
>But now Ilúvatar sat and hearkened, and for a great while it seemed good to him, for in the music there were no flaws. But as the theme progressed, it came into the heart of Melkor to interweave matters of his own imagining that werenot in accord with the theme of Ilúvatar; for he ought therein to increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself. To Melkor among the Ainur had been given the greatest gifts of power and knowledge, and he had a share in all the gifts of his brethren. He had gone often alone into the void places seeking the Imperishable Flame; for desire grew hot within him to bring into Being things of his own, and it seemed to him that Ilúvatar took no thought for the Void, and hewas impatient of its emptiness. Yet he found not the Fire, for it is with Ilúvatar. But being alone he had begun to conceive thoughts of his own unlike those of his brethren.
>>220804830>>220804868Sauron being responsible for the creepiness of Mirkwood has always been lame. The mission to attack his wizard castle there was always lame, probably why Tolkien barely wrote about it. Legolas probably wasn't involved in the events of The Hobbit because he was somewhere else such as Lothlorien or just hanging at Rivendell in the background of Bilbo's first brief stay there. There's no reason to say "and third seat from the left at Elrond's table sat LEGOLAS who would have a role in future events" Maybe he just wasn't an alcoholic like the rest of the Mirkwood elves who got kwabbed by Bilbo Baggins and mustered their army out of embarrassment. Maybe he disagreed with the King's plan and left.
Take note Peter, this is how its donehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ZIkGfWX7U
>>220805603Wow, name dropping major Sil shit on a talk show. Additionally, even if he did, he's not going to be ideologically capable of sticking to it. Feel free to enjoy whatever he makes with your discord xisters though
>>220803746>Gothmog cuts Fingon's helmet>Tactical nuke goes off>Fingolfin stabs Morgoth's foot>Scoop some ice big boy, that looks nasty>Luthien and Beren kiss>Cynthia Erivo starts wailing in the distance
>>220805939>>220805994basically the triforce creation scene from Ocarina but for imax. Not actively harmful, but will bore and confuse the fuck out of normies, while not really giving much to superfans and probably should never really be attempted
>>220806725That's just the AINULINDALË sectionwatch this >>220806250
I don't care who makes it. If it's LoTR made after 2003, I'm not watching it and I will make fun of stupid faggots who do watch it
>>220806763Yeah it was obvious what it was. I'm just not moved by it in a way comparable to the minds eye during that chapter. It's basically an audio book section at best
>>220803746Do we really want to see the Silmarillion with gross-outs, jump scares and dumb action gags?
>>220805223He said he prefers the CGI orcs in the Hobbit to the practical effect orcs in LOTR. What's that tell you?
>>220803746>SilmarillionSix 12-hour movies coming right up!
>>220804830that scene is epic though
Fuck off Jackson. Don't let Amazon or Jackson touch this fucking book.
>>220803807The Silmarillion is largely pre-3rd age. It covers elf lore concerning the origin of the world (pre-1st age) the events of the 1st age (wars of the Noldor against Melkor) and the events of the 2nd age (Sauron's wars of conquest and his eventual fall).
>>220807364yes, yes, give it to steven colbert instead
>>220807395No. You can't adapt this book into a film, it wouldn't make any fucking sense. The Silmarillion is Middle Earth's bible, it's a collection of myths and legends and is essentially the Elvish history of the world. You'd have to adapt it as a mini series covering the different parts of it. It'd work better as an anime OVA series desu
>>220807439>anime
>>220807481I would trust anime studios more with this than Amazon, Colbert, or Hackson. Cause at the end of the day, anime studios are mercenaries who will do whatever they are told, without some faggot wannabe auteur who thinks he is a better writer and world builder than Tolkien making revisions to the story or trying to "modernize" it.
>>220803819pete is 64all his original ideas are either cult hit horror movies or big spectacle farts, LOTR is the exceptionmight as well go back to that vein until it's fully tapped
>>220804713>Gandalf is a now a gay brownGrand Elf all right?
>>220807439>tranime
>>220805050it'll turn out sam and frodo used slaves, but because of colonialist attitudes, they were never mentioned
>>220804940Retroactive hidden stakes and mystery box storytelling is literally anti-Tolkien.
>>220805868You are spiritually jewish.
>>220807791not an argument
>>220803746wait for black girlboss Luthienlol,everything deserves to be burned ASAP
>>220808118Nta but yes it is.I didnt read your post to determine if hes right about you being spiritually jewish tho.But its still a valid arguement in cases where its true.
>>220803746if you guys ever make it big, put your life's work into the public domain so your shit family won't sell the rights to gayfaggotoni, queer aids queens, and orc lovers.
>>220808971To be fair, if you raise your family like Tolkien did and create the work he created, who would want to imagine his descendants mutating into psychic aids mush
>>220808938Even if you could figure out which posts (plural) are mine, neither of you are qualified to say who's a jew based on one paragraph. He's just trying to wriggle out of being wrong.
>>220805237Fuck his kids, tolkeins legacy is more important than those little faggots and Peter Jackson knows it
silmarillion would suck as a feature length they should do animatrix style compilation of high quality shorts but they wont
>>220810795It needs some kind of documentary treatment since it's more of a creation myth and history of the world similar to the book of genesis. A traditional movie would just end up as a disjointed mess. All this stuff should be in the public domain anyways.
>>220803746please don't
>>220804940I get that Colbert is a big Tolkien fan and there is a slight chance he could help make a decent movie, but he's also a huge faggot and will very likely purposely ruin it.
>>220803746given how mid the hobbit was, i hope they don't sell to them
Did Chris Tolkien really not prepare any of the younger people in the family to properly handle the estate?
>>220811832Every generation from boomers onwards are morally bankrupt, they're probably all retarded.
>>220804743He turned it into high fantasy. His own paintings feature cozy locations. Saxon halls, and small lodges. Jackson films are grand and epic.
>>220811832desu we don't know who exactly is in control, the likely answer is that its a mix of tolkien family and a bunch of gen x and boomer lawyers
>>220811832He didn't create the ip, neither did his kids or anyone he "sold" the rights to. I've never seen good arguments for continuing to allow people or corporations to own the rights to something that a dead person made and that they had no hand in creating. It's just gross.
>>220812065Yes, things get really gross when art becomes extremely profitable and the artist is dead.
>>220805868>denethor was fineYou're a moron and exactly who the Jackson flicks were made for, 100% chance you also enjoy capeshit.
>>220812149>100% chanceIf you're wrong about that, who knows what else you're wrong aboutprobably everything
>>220812149How is movie Denethor not a fulfillment of Tolkien's concept? It's too obvious that he's in the wrong? They just did the "low functioning king" shtick with Theoden, not long before in movie time. That would be too many low functioning kings. The fact that he ordered a suicide attack on osgiliath is such a minor gripe, it's no different from trying to hold Osgiliath too long or however Faramir got injured in the book. Denethor's infirmity is still messing up Gondor's war effort regardless. His theatrical performance changed nothing in the long run except the tone of the scene, it's totally possible the book character could act that way.
