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Why does no one know how to end a show anymore?
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what are people's problems with the ending?
I finished it yesterday, it was okay
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>>220805301
Seemed kinda weird that they gave Homelander a tragic backstory where he was literally raised from birth to have a bunch of weird mental problems, then brutally killed him for exhibiting said mental problems and expected the audience to cheer because "grr drumph."
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>>220805301
Homelander was my self-insert and they killed him
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>>220805414
Esp when he reverted back to a almost childlike state when he was depowered, really sick when you think about it
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>>220805414
only people of color deserve redemption, chud.
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>>220805301
As per usual, right wingers confused the villain of the show with the hero, and then threw a shitfit when their heckin based pupperino died.
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>>220805259
>sneaking into the white house with no real plan
>millions of people potentially gonna die
>lmao smells like musky fucking in here
Why are the writers like this?
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>>220805541
Holy hot cum spilling out of a dead pastor's anus, Ennisman!
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>>220805518
Has to be bait, nobody is this stupid. Everybody knew that HL would always die, almost like the show is based off a comic series
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>>220805259
The ending was indian coded
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>>220805557
Noooo you're seething, you're a seething chud!

Seether!
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>>220805414
This.
Also left wing talking points are so goddamned unhinged these days that I can only ever see them as bait.
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>>220805301
It was two seasons of filler to do the Herogasm fight for the third time, this time wasting and writing out Soldier Boy and replacing him with Kimiko whose only skin in the game was the poorly received death of Frenchie. All the virus and V1 stuff was a goose chase. It also didn't feel like there were stakes. The whole series was the threat of Homelander actualizing that fantasy where he lasered an entire crowd, but he never did anything like that to make it clear how dangerous he was and why their mission was necessary. They also completely glossed over anything good about the comic ending. Noir framed Homelander for everything, so Butcher's revenge was so unsatisfying that he went through supe genocide and killing Frenchie, Kimiko, and MM for getting in his way. TV Butcher was softened up way too much despite the Kessler influence and there was less of an undercurrent of futility to everything, so the final confrontation and genocidal endgame were shallow. He pretty much committed suicide by Hughie because Ryan rejected him and his dog died of old age. Comic Butcher was super serious about going through with it if Hughie didn't stop him and had already killed their best friends to show the reader he meant business.
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>>220805301
My issue was that the finale was split into two sections:
>killing homelander part
>killing butcher part
And the latter felt incredibly rushed because unlike Homelander, there was nothing building up to it. He just spontaneously decides to do genocide after all because he got his feelings hurt by Ryan in a 30 second moment.

The fight with Homelander was kind of weak because it was just a short bit with nothing interesting hapoening during the fight. No epic showdown or anything, just impactless flailing around for a bit while Kimiko just kind of stands there. Then it's over. Homelander doesn't even get a minute to really suffer without powers. A few seasons ago, they told us that blast was highly destructive. The sole reason they didn't kill Homelander already was because the blast would destroy the tower and kill everyone, including Ryan. Now, with zero explanation, it doesn't harm anyone or anything??

Aside from being rushed, Butcher's part lacks impact because he's right. Nothing changed and Vought is in the same position with the same ability to make invincible supes.

These two sections should have been two separate episodes, but of coourse they coukdn't have Homie die before the last episode.
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>>220805259
I feel bad for Oh Father he really was trying his best for this retarded ass plan
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>>220805259
>anymore
they never really did most shows endings are shit
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i cant believe they let this sickly looking rat man actually control the direction of a multi million dollar show lmao
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>>220805259
if they'd just followed the comics it would have been better and at least people couldn't complain about them sticking to the source material. the whole idea of depowering is dumb and should never have been included
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>>220805628
They were going for a low cgi raw and dirty fight for the finale and had the actors actually grappling and fighting and being thrown around on wires, which doesn't really work for the finale. It SHOULD have been a cgi shitfest instead. Scorched earth.
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>>220805301
The final fight was shit.
Nobody expected Homelander to win, but even before losing his powers he didnt even seem like a threat.
I think he should have been stronger than he was after losing his powers too still much weaker than butcher but not like a 4 year old trying to fight an adult, but honestly thats much less relevant than the fact that he was heavily nerfed even before losing his powers.

Scortched earth was just a lightly singed room.
The best way to describe it was anticlimactic.
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>>220805301
Sorry anon, that just means your brown. Even my retarded liberal friends thought it was bad
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>>220805301
>problem with the ending
The whole season is shit. It doesn't matter if the finale was great, it would be a literal cherry on top of a shit pile.
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>>220805414
>The megacorporation responsible for torturing him faces zero consequences btw, and Edgar is just gonna make another monster.
Which could be fine, you dont need a happy ending, but this is played off as if its a good thing.
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>>220805657
Wow wonder why he hates Aryan Chad homelander so much
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>>220805301
I thought it was weird to make homelander act like hassan. Men don't breakdown like that
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>>220805518
Villains are supposed to be a threat.
Whats the point of having your villain look like a wimp for the entire fight?

Imagine if Frieza in dbz just got his ass kicked by Goku for the entire fight.
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>>220805826
>They were going for a low cgi raw and dirty fight for the finale
You very easily could have done this AFTER Homelander gets depowered.
Have him be weaker than Butcher but still put up abit of a struggle, flipping their roles where Butcher had always been the one struggling but not getting imediately one shot. And you could have had a fight before that with the powers where Homelander had the advantage.

Honestly Hughie would have put up a better fist fight against Butcher than Homelander did after losing his power
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>>220805301
I think it was a decent conclusion despite how mediocre the entire season was. It just felt very small scale.
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>>220805414
>>220805476
I kind of like the conflicting feeling, it made me sad to see him die. The problem is I don't think being conflicting was intentional, I don't think Kripke had that kind of nuance, and was hoping you'd be cheering for the death of his Trump allegory.
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>>220805518
>LE RIGHT WINGERS DON'T REALIZE THE SHOW IS MAKING FUN OF THEM!!!
It's such a low IQ take. They do, they just don't care and embrace the caricatures even though they're taken to the extreme.
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>>220805414
Classic leftist empathy
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>>220806187
The fucking irony of leftists saying this same failed argument as a Star Wars movie dies at the box office due to chasing away fans with this exact same excuse a decade ago. They never learn.
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>>220805259
CIA.
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>>220805518
go back.
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>>220805914
That's because liberals worship capitalism. They honestly believe that corporations are the good guys. People seem to forget what the word liberal actually means. It essentially means a libertarian.
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>>220806187
Leftists are so heavy on censorship and media control, the thought of hearing anything they disagree with is terrifying to them. They know their views crumble under the slightest bit of scrutiny so they avoid discussion at all costs. This covers two of the reasons media is all so blatantly left-leaning
>Leftists can't defend their views, so they use creative mediums to invent strawman for their self-inserts to defear
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>It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it
Leftists lack this so they can't stand any media that doesn't reaffirm their politics. Right Wingers can see that The Boys is blatant left wing propaganda, but understand that just because a fantasy about superheroes makes a statement, the statement isn't automatically or magically correct.
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>>220806067
It's rushed as fuck. There is no plan build up at all the entire season. No one even cares Hughie killed Butcher.
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>>220805259
>le s1 wasn't garbage
kys retard
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>>220805414
Did you forget all the countless pointless cruel and sociopathic things he did?
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how many franchises and IPs have leftists ruined now? I have lost count. I have nothing but apathy and hatred for hollywood and faggot leftists that should have been gatekept from nerd male spaces.
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>>220806581
Season 2 onward did. He does jack shit while the show keeps going,
>le brings up the plane footage that never existed in season 1 again
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>>220806016
Homelander has never taken a punch or had to fist fight anyone as a normal mortal person. it's natural to me that he would be discombobulated as fuck and just get his ass beat by someone who has actually had to fight for his life before with no powers
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>>220805259
Fell for it again award
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>>220805518
/thread
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>>220806133
Starr actually tried to keep the character nuanced and would bite back on Kripke forcing a trump allegory for several seasons.
Eventually Kripke had enough.
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>>220806537
>They know their views crumble under the slightest bit of scrutiny so they avoid discussion at all costs.
Yep.
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>>220806537
>>220806801
I feel like this also ties into the "leftists pretending not to understand something" tweet. They literally have to obfuscate and shift the goal posts because they know their ideology is waffer thin.
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>>220805259
It's not that he didn't necessarily know how (though he's a terrible writer), it's that Kripke and every other worthless Jew retard in Hollywood like him think it's a better use of resources and time to insult the audience and completely tank a show/movie to "own" them. This faggot was more determined to make ragebait anti-Trump propaganda than anything else because he's an impotent loser. He hated that people enjoyed Homelander and it drove him insane.
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>>220806850
It's basically the same shit as trying to hide crimes. They know they're in the wrong, so all they have is peer pressure, disproven talking points, and virtue signalling.
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>>220805414
I don't get how was he supposed to be trump, I've seen people caliming that a lot
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>>220806896
Same thing happened with Joker. Tod Philips bought into the insane MSM insistence that Joker would inspire theater shootings that he decided to punish fans of Joker 1 with Joker 2. How dare people sympathize with a deeply mentally ill man finding his place in the world after defending himself from a gang of three guys who were gonna beat his ass?
Even funnier with Todd was the hubris. He thought he accidentally crafted a cultural icon, when the truth is Joker was a cultural icon since before Todd was born.
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>>220806937
Kripke himself was actually thanking Starr for trying to pull him out of his obsession with Trump in earlier seasons.
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>>220805259
Kripke lost his mind because Homelander is more interesting, charismatic, sympathetic, and likable than any of the "good guys" in the story and the entire audience felt that way. Especially when Butcher is such an unlikable and irredeemable character. Karl Urban is great but I couldn't stand his character and checked out on his BS many seasons ago. Hughie and Starlight shit got stale years ago too. Homelander is why anyone was watching still. It was never going to be a satisfying ending, but it damn well could have been a lot better and more respectful of the viewer's intelligence than this intellectually dishonest kike propaganda.
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>>220806850
Is the ideology in the room with you right now?
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>>220805259
Writers stop trying because the internet will complain no matter what. You can pour your heart and soul into a finale script. Only for Cunny_Groyper_67 to call it slop and get thousands of likes.
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>>220807011
Yes, in this very thread.
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>>220807023
Why give a single fuck about what cunts on twitter have to say?
If they're gonna complain no matter what, then never give a single shit about it ever. 1% of twitter is active users. They aren't a demographic.
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>>220805301
why introduce religion in season 5?
homelander never spoke about religion.
the boys never had anything against any religious superheroes ( except oh father)

there was always a flavor of conservatism in the superheroes and the company. but never fully anti religion.

not sure why this show runner wanted to go so full into religion.
why make homelander the new Jesus?
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>>220805518
what about people outside the USA that love homelander? leftists are so disingenuous and small minded
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>>220807055
>why introduce religion in season 5?
It's been very Talmudic about Christianity since the moment Starlight was introduced.
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>>220805414
>oh boohoo I had a tragic childhood that means I can kill anyone I want and make everyone worship me as a literal god
Fuck off. He's a grown ass man who's totally aware he's insecure as fuck and is weak on the inside which is why he treats everyone like shit. And when he loses his powers you see how much of a bitch he really is. It's not like the entire season has been hammering you over the head with everyone laughing at Homelander in the face saying he's a weak loser before he kills them because he can't stand hearing the truth.
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>>220805541
It's called safe-edgy millenial writing.
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>>220807023
No, he gave up when he realized that practically none of the people watching the show agreed with his whiny bitchmade political views. Seeing everyone love and root for Homelander while voting Trump back in broke this pathetic faggot permanently kek.
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>>220807104
ok yeah starlight was from church
but homelander was never about anything religious.
why was he hallucinating the blonde lady? it's just so out of left field
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>p-p-please like the show
>If you don't you're a c-chud...
I shan't be watching.
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>>220807143
Krikpe just went full retard overall. Everything he ever kvetched about shone through this season.
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>>220806975
We then I think Starr won in the end because I don't get how yoh can say Homelander is supposed to be Trump when the only similarities they have are based on their malignant narcissism and doing fascist shit when they get into power that were just standard textbook things all people like that do. So you literally have to be so underage you think Trump invented all that to see it that way. They literally share nothing else as far as as specific personality traits or idiosyncrasies.
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>>220806937
Literally this I don't get why all the schizo right wingers are seeing what they want to see in this series.

Like, the billionaire dark MAGA hat wearing guy hanging out in the white house with passing comments about his 17 children and wanting to go to space could be anybody and all the chuds keep thinking they are the center of the universe
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>>220807176
Sounds like you're mad that Homelander was intended to be a Trump allegory and Kripke himself wanted him to be one.
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I have never seen someone more mindbroken in my life.
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>>220805301
>it was okay
every
single
time
lmao
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>>220807182
I'm frankly amazed they didn't use the blackletter font for that hat.
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>>220805541
Kripke would know, he is one of (((them))) after all.
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>>220805301
No, it's not okay to use deus ex machina bullshit to kill off a highly beloved villain at the end of your show because you want to showcase that he is actually a big weenie coward even though there is no reason why he would be one. If he was a giant mangina nobody would have liked him. They turned him into that at the end so the TDS showrunner could have his Trump stand in beg for his life in a disgusting and pathetic way.

Imagine Light from Deathnote begging for his life by offering to eat actual shit. Or Thanos. Or whatever villain from your oh so superior alternative franchise. It's character assassination and it's boring too because there is no big final battle where the heroes have to struggle, it's just a magic McGuffin virus then the guy gets domed with a crowbar. This was just minutes after Homelander showed he could fly thousands of miles per second into space so how the hell could he not escape his own death? Retarded writing that's how.
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>>220807196
I don't care about intent that never manifested in the show. if your only evidence is the writer claiming some shit you lost. prove it based on what was in screen your kill yourself.
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>>220807206
Writing was on the wall. Kripke was pretty deeply unhinged in the first place. Trump's reelection completely buckbroke him.
>>220807144
Checked
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>>220807239
>never manifested in the show
It manifested enough for everybody to see it, especially in this final season where Starr no longer gave a shit because he was finally gonna be free of the role.
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>>220807246
It actually was the reelection that destroyed Kripke's psyche. Season 4 and 5 were a completely different show
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>>220807239
>the writer
Creator and showrunner. He wasn't just "some writer"
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>>220807264
I already accounted for retards who think Trump is the only person who ever existed and could see him in a dog's asshole if they looked hard enough
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>>220807182
It's just a coincidence
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>>220807196
I think anon's point was that Antony Starr remained professional and tried to keep the character and story on track against the deranged ramblings of an idiot. He tried to save the show, and his career, from a bad writer. It's commendable that he never stopped trying to find the nuance in the character and performance even when the guy in charge of the production can't or won't. It means he's sane and takes his job seriously, unlike Kripke.
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>>220807290
Kripke is one of those people, which was a major problem for production, especially considering, again, he was the showrunner.
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>>220807313
That anon is a weird faggot who wants to "win". You're absolutely right about what was going on.
I'm guessing that Starr got tired of that shit around season 4 and especially season 5, and loosened his grip on the character.
Frankly Starr, just for having a a basic understanding of character logic, would've been a better showrunner.
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>>220807324
fine, sure, all the more credit to everyone else and Anthony Starr apparently for talking him down off the ledge
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>>220807290
Are you actually under the impression this took place in the white house and had them being weird about christianity for no reason? I'm genuinely sorry the left is so obssessed with owning the chuds they can't even keep it out of their stories, it's pretty clear it was at a cost of the quality of the show for everybody
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>>220807363
>Are you actually under the impression this took place in the white house and had them being weird about christianity for no reason?
no, I'm not under that impression
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>>220807397
>>220807363
also this is what I mean when I say you people have to be underage to think that this topic of satire that has been done already a million times must be about Trump because he happens to be the president right now
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>>220807435
>>220807182
right...
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>>220805259
the s0ys was shit from the beginning thoughever
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>>220807246
But why? All trump does is give money to useless rats like Kripke
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>>220805877
homie lived in a lab for about 20 years. no way did vought not give him any training. he should have been able to fight butcher somewhat equally
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>>220805301
None of the storylines they created were satisfying or well written. Like literally none.
>Scorched earth epic Homelander vs Butcher finale!
Whole fight ends in one fucking room with like 100 convenient plot holes leading to it. All to own the Drumpf or something.
>Deep will finally redeem himself or we will see some deeper thoughts on why he can't change
He ends up with 0 character development and 0 explanation behind it other than "I love Drumpf".
>Butcher's ending where he brings the superhero nonsense to an end
He dies like a bitch which means none of it matters. Vought will continue creating more Homelanders and other narcissistic sociopaths with godlike power like nothing ever happened.
>The whole Frenchie death which was utterly pointless.
>Soldierboy is back for season 5 and he's one of the very few threats to Homelander
Let's completely ignore him and freeze his ass again because we don't know what to do with him and we used his character in the dumbest most nonsensical way possible.
>Mothersmilk, whose whole plot was his obsession with the revenge on Soldierboy doesn't get his closure, they don't even touch on why he decided to let go.
Also let's give him a happy ending because he's a BIPOC I guess.
The whole show became caricature of Californian spiteful tankie writing to the point where the whole script makes 100% sense when you put yourself in shoes of a virtue signalling terminally online loser who literally seethes 24/7 due to TDS. It becomes so predictable when you understand that mindset and realise it's literally the safest, most Hollywood friendly script to be ever written, 0 risks taken - the epitome of safe edgy.
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>>220807227
>Imagine Light from Deathnote begging for his life by offering to eat actual shit
I dunno, I could see Light actually do that
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>>220807732
Yeah the idea of Homelander feeling powerless for the first time doesn't make sense because he was already in these torturous situations testing his powers to their limits
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>>220806757
/faggot
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>>220807804
Homelander even asked Hughie why is he so loved. It was unironically easier to just try to mentally pacify Homelander over letting Stan wins and create another Homelander
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>>220807838
hughie replied "because I'd do it for them" and I think this is supposed to tie in with homie bringing up all the tmes he spared butcher - homie thought there was some sort of friendly rivalry going on and that since he spared butcher all those times, butcher would spare him
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>>220805301
People don’t get he is hitler meets Superman
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>>220805414
idk he should've pulled himself up by his bootstraps and got over his "childhood trauma"
you sound like a therapy speak lefty, faggot
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>>220807804
TDS is so fucking autistic, I still remember that bizarre ahs season that made even women drop the show kek
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>>220805557
>nobody is this stupid
people exist that have voted trump 3 times
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>>220807196
So where is his obsession with israel and him liking kids then?
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>ctrl f
>only 1 use of kike
Step it up
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>>220807838
I haven't even touched on Homelander. He could genuinely be a great complex villain who would leave people conflicted if he showed some kind of humanity which his character clearly has, craving true love and belonging instead of being feared and treated like a boogeyman. They even toyed with the idea in previous seasons but then decided to completely cut it and go for a Trump caricature. The whole religion plot made 0 sense. Homelander hated religion and the religious nutjobs in previous seasons.
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>>220805301
worthless manchildren self-insert as homelander because he's the exact person they would be if they had godlike superpowers and it shattered their chudcore power fantasy
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>>220805301
>YOU WILL FIND GARBAGE SLOP "OKAY" AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
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>>220807337
I really feel bad for him, you could tell how he didn't give a shit anymore during season 5 (as well as Jensen who was obviously confused by his fucking character). Reminds me of Cavill during the witcher show where every roastie changed the book and wanted Cavill to have sex with 50 years old ugly women when the point of the witches is that they sacrificed their fertility to be young and pretty
Honestly if I was Starr I would have quit, now kikes jeets army are going to spam that shitty meme of your best character
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>>220807938
Noone self inserts. Congrats on your jew cosmopolitan article bait though, heres your reply you can add to your drumpf article.
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>>220807901
He’s hitler home lander is hitler meets Superman
“Homelander youth” internment camps etc not trump
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>>220807938
shut the fuck up faggot. Women and faggots have fucking ruined entertainment, go back to plebbit you fucking nigger. Leftists ruin everything they touch.
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>>220807933
Yeah even chinks wanted Homelander to survive and just be a good father to Ryan. Honestly Homelander worked even better as a tragic anti hero who would fight against Vought but leftists apparently think you should support Stan? And Sage, who wanted to genocide BILLIONS just to read books? Or Frenchie grooming some survivor? Starlight and Hughie won't even go to prison despite killing someone

Hell Vought rising sounds like it will be Stormfront wank despise she being actually a nazi who killed people without feeling any remorse
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>>220808016
Oh forgot to say the whole Joker thing, apparently I was supposed to laugh at the Joker reading over his files where he was abused and constantly hit as a little kid or else I'm a chud KEK
Funny since women also felt bad for the joker, are they chuds too?
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>>220808022
Nigga just add a not!Trump there instead of forcing Homelander to be one
Starr doesn't even like Trump and he was still against it
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>>220808011
struck a nerve, huh
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>>220807182
>>220808022
>constantly thinking about those more powerful than you
What kind of mental illness is this? It can't just be insecurity
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>Starr has openly expressed that he does not want Homelander to be reduced to a two-dimensional cardboard cutout or a direct, one-for-one parody of Trump. He prefers playing a layered, flawed, and insecure human being who was never given a chance to develop normally

It's a shame he wasn't in charge of writing.
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>>220807274
Trump was reelected after S4.
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>>220807081
They dont matter or exist
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>>220808104
Airing just a few months away from the election is close enough. They started doing president stuff in season 4 not by coincidence
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>>220808200
It WILL happen, one day all this political bullshit slid into everything will stop, people will eventually just let go, not today, but one day it will happen....
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>>220807227
You all shit on the Attack on Titan ending, but that series did it’s heroes and villains way better than Kripke. You actually saw the scope and scale of destruction. And the heroes fought with everything they had to stop the Rumbling. Eren’s last minute change of heart was clumsy, but at least he wasn’t begging to eat Armin’s shit and suck Levi’s dick.
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>>220808263
yeah, after the societal collapse, eradication of conflicting viewpoints, and monoculture rebuilding. then you can have "non-political" entertainment again.
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>>220808263
>>220808376
It was supposed to be the pandemic where people realize how stupid they have been but they doubled down on not being able to separate fiction from reality
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>>220808376
>societal collapse, eradication of conflicting viewpoints
These have always been around, and isn't the true source of the issue
>monoculture rebuilding
Oh, but this... Now we touching on the REAL issue.
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that ending was worse than game of thrones
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>>220806785
I heard that Starr actually suggested the shit on live tv line.
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>>220805259
Even worse, the ending was already written for him, but because he made the show into his personal anti-Trump diatribe he ended up at a point im which he could not just film the ending that the comic already had.
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>>220807227
Light actually did beg for Ryuk to do him a solid in the original end of the manga you fucking retard lol
>>220807811
Cause it happened
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>>220808951
I'm seeing some slight deviation from the source material here
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>>220805414
>fuck laws and shit, look at this sad backstory
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>>220805301
Season 5 leans way too hard into just being a 1:1 parody of current feelings in US politics. The season is full of plot holes and contrivances that make absolutely no sense and characters than can immediately solve problems are conveniently sent away or made to make stupid decisions for no good reason. Homelander never feels like a real threat this season, he just cries a lot and off-screens the majority of the few people he kills. The final fight sucked and the epilogue just glosses over the state the country was in up until that moment, with everything just being perfect again afterward. This biggest thing this season does wrong is being forgettable and boring. Half the time I was just sitting there asking why a character would do this or that or why they kept asspulling new shit at zero hour.

My biggest annoyance is where the fuck does all of the radiation go just seconds after they open the door to the chamber multiple times?
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>>220805518
Or maybe viewers just enjoyed the character and the actor?
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>>220805518
People liked Antony as Honelander and a powerful "villain" is always fun to watch. People we're "mad" becsuse of the god awful writing, it wasnt about him dying, it was the fact he didnt fucking do anything before it.
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>>220808967
Light did not in fact offer to eat Ryuk's shit
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>>220808951
>that patented Garth Penis prose
Chef's kiss. It's like I'm actually being made to eat someone's shit.
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>>220805518
>THE SHOW IS BAD ON PURPOSE ITS LITERALLY ABOUT YOU HAHA *EATS BUGS*
Literally you.
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>>220809033
can't afford good battles

but CAN afford a shitty spin off no one wanted or watched....

exactly the same as WALKING DEAD
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I don't understand why everyone complains about Homelander's ending (which was fine) and not Butcher's ending which makes the entire series feel actually pointless
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>>220809042
He didn't predict shit. Kripke is a bigger narcissicist than Trump or Homelander
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>>220809055
Just read it out loud with an oirish accent and it becomes several orders of magnitude better, just like James Joyce really
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>>220807182
>show beats you over the head with HOMELANDER IS DRUMPF
>Homelander constantly parallels real world Krumpf events
>Kripke says HE'S TRUMP
>Antony Starr says he constantly has to remind Kripke to tone it down because the character isn't making any goddamn sense anymore when it's just constant BLUMPF humiliation revenge porn
You, an actual fucking retard: "Why do you think Homelander is a Trump strawman?"
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>>220809090
I'm not sure if the guy you're replying to is a troll or a liberal troll. either way, they are retarded
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>>220809084
Joyce's scatological love letters fantasizing about being cucked by redheaded louts from galway, mayhaps.
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>>220809077
Propaganda. You can't depict the destruction of the big bad corporations anymore, so they force the narrative to be divisive yet again. Elon Musk getting involved was because of this
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Is there any right-wing media that matches the left's insane strawmen and wish fulfillment fantasies? Closest I can think of is God's Not Dead but even then it was purely a religious statement and didn't involve a not!Obama
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>>220809090
That second guy with the elon pic is being sarcastic. The other one is a retard.
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>>220808628
Proof he simply no longer gave a fuck.
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>>220809159
wtf are you talking about
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>>220809230
I'm pretty obviously talking about the destruction of Vought, the supe virus etc, not happening and everybody focusing on the left/right debate instead
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>>220808263
It's gonna take several civil wars. Literal total anarchy in the entirety of the western nations. If left alone we all know who would emerge victorious and be able to rebuild their nations properly, but you know we won't. While we're busy killing each other the east will move in like cockroaches. The Muslims, the Chinese, and the Russians will press the advantage and just bowl us all over and then divvy up what's left.
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i made a webmeme of the moment that made me laugh the hardest.
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The worst part was Homelander being super anti-abortion out of the blue. They pretty much took anything remotely right-wing in politics and made Homelander take that position.

Funny though that every single political issue was covered except for Israel. Wonder why?
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>>220809307
>The worst part was Homelander being super anti-abortion out of the blue
it's not out of the blue lmao. you people are too stupid to watch even a stupid ass show like this.
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>>220809307
It came out of nowhere, even Soldier Boy was talking about it in the LA episode
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>>220809322
point out what other season he ever spoke about abortion
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>>220805259
Serialized fiction has never had good endings.
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>>220809303
>folksy Goebbels quotes
Omegakek.
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>>220809322
>oh he mentioned that he's anti abortion because of more breastfeeding or something

stfu nigger it was retarded and Kripke is a hack
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>>220809342
abortion is outlawed because he is a titty milk fiend and gets it sent to him from all over the world. he mentions it like literally RIGHT after he says that abortion should be outlawed.
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Ryan and his grandfather have more in common to each other than they do with their father/son.
Both are ultimately good but have a tendency for evil, both have a real hard time making up their mind, both are chick magnets and they even look alike on top of everything.
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>>220809368
>it was retarded
yes, that's why it's actually funny and in-character
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>220809408
>it's funny

Go back
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>>220809303
I was not expecting the milk. Glad I never watched this show.
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>>220809033
How the fuck can a big show like this have barely a fucking budget when its Amazon?

Theres kids in their bedroom using AI prompts for free making better finales than their shit lmao wtf is going on
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why are liberals saying that conservatives loved and worshipped homelander like if he was Superman or Spider-Man or something????

people always shared his memes or liked him in mortal Kombat,
but I don't ever recall anyone like, idolizing him.

more revisionist history ?
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>>220809462
>more revisionist history
It seems like they are upset the ending sucks as well but they don't want to admit they can't stop thinking about Trump
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>>220809462
it's what this guy said
>>220809159
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>>220809307
>Funny though that every single political issue was covered except for Israel. Wonder why?
You ask this in every thread and it's been answered in every thread. Get some new material already
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>>220809438
Why bother spending more money on a show that paypiggy subscribers are going to watch no matter what?
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>>220809504
That's obviously a rhetorical question. We all know why.
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>>220809435
it is not the type of show I would normally watch but I was curious after everyone posting about it. i enjoyed some of the more absurd things like that and just seeing all the creative ways people get killed in this show is kinda cool
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>>220809462
>why are liberals saying that conservatives loved and worshipped homelander like if he was Superman or Spider-Man or something????
No one said that.
>>220809551
It was addressed in the show, but astroturfers ignore that when it's mentioned, then wait for the next thread to ask it again, hoping no one notices.
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>>220809504
Im not that anon and I dont frequent threads for this show because I dont watch it. Explain it for me?
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>>220809591
definitely yes liberals are saying that conservatives are crying about the ending because of humiliation of homelander

>>220808950
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all you guys had to do was vote for harris

your water supply , your groceries, your jobs, your capeshit shows could have been saved just by voting for harris
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>>220809591
>It was addressed in the show, but astroturfers ignore that when it's mentioned

Fucking when? Why are you lying on the internet? The only thing that the Boys has connected to Israel is that Frenchie is an IDF soldier
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>>220809645
all you had to do is make Biden retire and nominate a better person.
your food, your groceries, your jobs and your tv would been saved if you didn't shoehorn harris
>>220809481
based indians
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>>220805936
How else would the lefty win? Have a fair right.
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>>220809645
lol

She would have been just as bad, if not worse. Combine the same Israel bootlicking and greed of Trump, the LGBT and bigger worship agendas of the left, and the incompetence and random rage outbursts of a dumb menopausal woman and you have what would have been her presidency. Women are always worse when given even a little bit of power over others because their toxic, mentally ill vindictiveness and pettiness comes out instantly. Trump is a dogshit President but she would have been disastrous too.
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>>220805301
>Don't know that soldier boy was put back into the pod
>Sneak into the Whitehouse with no plan to deal with soldier boy
>-
>Starlight didn't know the fish were pissed off at the deep
>She flies him to the beach where he's the most powerful and she's the weakest
Dreadful writing.
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>>220805259
the main issue with this show is it fumbled every interesting thread it had in every season after season 1. it took the most boring played out shit route for literally everything and still thought it was subversive. its actually retarded how badly written it is, it seems to be a trend with everything amazon touches though.
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>>220809730
BUT IT WAS HER TURN!!!
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>>220809742
This. Part of me thinks maybe a Dem president would be more hesitant to pull something like trump did with Iran because there is a louder anti-Israel contingent on the Democrats side than Republicans, but I doubt it. Also the LGBT and social justice shit would've been absolutely out of control under Harris
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>>220809481
Crazy that the CG is only slightly worse in AI than their real end product.
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>>220809643
One person made a ragebait video that you fell for? Why are you pointing out your own stupidity like that?
>>220809680
Go to any thread about this show from the past month and Ctrl F your favorite country's name and then look at the replies to that comment. That or rewatch the episode/s but this time without your phone in your hand.
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>>220809759
>the boys sneak into highly secure government building
>literally whispering behind a stack of boxes
>leaves
>does it again
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>>220809090
I genuinely feel bad for Anthony Starr, he gave such a great performance and really sold the
>psycho narcissist who wants everyone to love him
aspect so well, only for the writers to hamfist him into being a Trump parody.
To then have him be defeated in the most uninteresting and mediocre scene of the whole show is just cruel to the actor.
'omelanda should've become powerless in season 3, soulja boy should've taken his place and turned into the new villain, and then we could've seen weak 'omelanda be broken slowly and potentially have some redemption or something, I don't know.
I hate the political shitflinging, but there is a way to do a good allegory/parody and then there is what 'omelanda turned into.
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>>220809847
>Also the LGBT and social justice shit would've been absolutely out of control under Harris
One thing I can give Trump, wokeness does seem to by dying, it would have been worse under Harris, but her and Trump are both compromised. Trump is owned by Isreal, Harris is owned by all the people she sucked off over the years.
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>>220805518
>pupperino
Brown gorilla nigger.
t. never saw a second of the goys
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>>220809863
You are a lying kike, there is not one mention of Israel in the entire show. Eat shit
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>>220809863
>One person
look at all the comments on the video lol
literally look at the replies.

want me to find reddit threads about it? I'll do it.

liberals are so fucking disingenuous holy fucking shit.
for fucks sake. all the lefties on Twitter are saying how conservatives are mad that their hero homelander got humiliated.
you truly are shit.
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so do I have this right that Frenchie killed himself just to inconvenience Homelander for a few moments with no guarantee or reason to think once he did that he would just leave and stop searching for Kimiko and Starlight?
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>>220809742
>>220809847
We'd be getting raped by left wing american jews instead of right wing israeli jews. No difference because both siphon our taxes dollars to send back home to their pirate colony, and we'd get absolutely buried under LGBT shit 4 years sooner than we had to. At least this way, they'll have to work harder to hide it even when the Ds get back into the driver seat because the whole country is belligerent and distrustful now.
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>>220809921
Yeah it was really stupid. He got to own the chud though
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>>220809915
I hope he's just a good old 4chan troll

but the arrogance In his posts are pure lefty arrogance.
his whole "I know better than you" while lying or ignoring facts is pure lefty mindset.
fucking disingenuous as hell he is
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>>220809921
plus even if he found kimiko and Sage, they still had powers they could still fight him
it could be bad.
but they were both hiding like innocent defenceless humans when both of them could fight homelander until the other guys showed up

Frenchie literally died for nothing
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>>220809917
>want me to find reddit threads about it? I'll do it.
Please do
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>>220809906
>One thing I can give Trump, wokeness does seem to by dying

Last year the momentum was there to kill most of the woke and socially liberal movements, but Trump absolutely fucked it up hard with this dumbass war and having an incompetent bimbo run DHS and ICE which turned the general public against him.

>>220809924
Anti-semitism is becoming extremely normalized in normie circles. For example, the Kars 4 Yids controversy just went public and normies realize that all of the Jewish stereotypes are true. That and bulldozing civilians really did a number to Israel's reputation
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>>220809953
I don't really believe this place is important enough to warrant paid shills but goddamn some posts really make me believe its true. He is straight up lying about a fact that is very easy to look up
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>>220809481
>starts in the oval office
>breaks trough 8 walls
>back in the oval office
>fight goes outside
>it's a second white house

absolute kino
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>>220809990
Yeah and Homelander is not that dumb, he wouldn't have realized it for the distraction that it was and figured the others must actually still be around
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>>220810078
would have*
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>>220810018
nobody gives a shit about ICE
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>>220809906
Where? All I see still is woke trash everywhere. Tons of woke movies and games keep getting cranked out. They haven't stopped. They'll clearly never stop no matter how much Blackrock money is lost on it. And now that everyone is abandoning Trump and regretting the "MAGA" farce there's no more traction against the woke filth.
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>>220810104
>And now that everyone is abandoning Trump and regretting the "MAGA" farce
cool story bro
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>>220810104
People are saying retartd, and faggot again, and people dont listen to trannies like they once did and there is even a movement inside the gay community to kick the trans out.
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>>220805414
>we should massively depart from the source material because people think the cruel, racist asshole is analogous to Trump (for no reason whatsoever!)

lol you want him to see a therapist you fucking baby?
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>>220810103
ICE currently has no funding because of the fallout after Minneapolis. People give a shit and the Dems are using that as ammo against Immigration enforcement
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>>220810153
>for no reason whatsoever!
so were backtracking from yet another one.
Like all the feminist directors who insist their film WASN'T feminist after they flop
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>>220810132
>there is even a movement inside the gay community to kick the trans out.

I don't believe that unless its fringe gay guys that were already right wing to begin with
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>>220810180
yep, NO funding. They're operating out of a shoebox
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>>220805476
they had a real chance to make allude back to him being a helpless kid in the lab and have the gang see his true self without the bravado and posturing, and feel pity and understanding for him. hughie would be like "we can't kill him bros" but of course the butcher wouldn't and shouldn't care and would kill him anyway, and that would set him up as the true villain

however instead they had him act like a helpless youngin and then ask to suck butchers cock. very strange t b h
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>>220806016
i don't think a depowered homelander would last 10 seconds in a fight against butcher even if he tried his best lol

if anything it would have been funnier to see him try to run away and try to knock hughie out of his way, only to get his ass beat by him
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>>220810230
>https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/30/politics/dhs-shutdown-funding-bill-house-vote
>In the end, House GOP leaders conceded in a weeks-long DHS funding fight in a major retreat by Speaker Mike Johnson as he faced a growing revolt from centrists in his party, multiple sources told CNN. The House abruptly passed the package — which includes no money for federal immigration enforcement, in a major win for Democrats — by a voice vote Thursday afternoon.
>DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin, a former House member, had also repeatedly warned that he was almost out of money.

The Dems are holding ICE funds hostage so they can add in as many protections for illegals as possible and make it hard for ICE to actually deport anyone. We will see if Republicans can get creative to get it passed, but this level of resistance wouldn't be possible without the BS that happened earlier this year
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>>220810320
Homelander actually blocked, parried and did general fistfighting stuff against Soldier Boy
Which struck me as weird as hell because when/why would he learn that
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>poltards seething this hard over capeshit
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>>220810078
I'm surprised homelander just left.
he could have waited for them to return.

he didn't know where they went. but they would be back.
truly dog shit writing
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>>220810342
>CNN
and it's just the dems doing what they always do, NOT a loss of support for ICE due to anything recent
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>>220810320
I wish homelander jumped out of a window. just run in the lawn...
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>>220810363
every time
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>>220810399
>CNN
I know, its just the first article that came up. But maybe you're right, people also have a short memory. We will see in the midterms.
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>>220809902
>and then we could've seen weak 'omelanda be broken slowly and potentially have some redemption or something, I don't know.
i think he is essentially irredeemable, but they could have given some kinda prison arc for him. i think they probably played around with the idea of a depowered homelander sticking around for longer but i think what kills the idea is that the writers WANT him to be an active bad guy so they can shit on him. a homelander without superpowers is just another victim of vought. putting him in jail (again) to relive his childhood trauma would only emphasize that and make him look pitiable and sympathetic.
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>>220810420
>every time
Well how much time have you spent seething over capeshit you deranged faggot? You just self-pwned
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>>220810449
>i think he is essentially irredeemable, but they could have given some kinda prison arc for him
actually i think a really thematically interesting ending for him would've been that he still had V1 and was immortal, but was depowered and imprisoned forever. kinda like doomed to watch the world around him forget him in purgatory
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>>220805259
bruh
bro thought he cooked but shi was deadass mid af ong no cap
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>>220810508
beep boop
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>>220809481
this sucks but is still better than the actual finale
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>>220810363
>is capeshit
>they turn it into yet another Trump critique
I would be pissed off too
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>>220810320
>>220810344
Homelander had combat training as a kid.
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>>220809033
>Can't afford fight scenes
>Can't afford scenes of mayhem and destruction
>Can't afford extras
>Can't afford to shoot on location
>Can't afford good or even passable CGI
>Can afford celebrities to show up and immediately be killed
>Can afford to license Piano Man for two minutes
Those 2023 strikes really ruined everything, huh?
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>>220810719
>$11 million per episode
fuckin HACKS
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>>220805877

Yikes. The same people that accused The Boys of becoming the thing it's satiring are crying about not getting that big Marvel finale, sky beams and all. Every-single bad S5 review focuses on how small scale or cheap the final confrontation was as opposed to how messy and unfocused the road was to get there.

Reminds me of how pissed everyone was with Glass when they didn't get their big tower fight at the end.

>>220806692
This
>>220807112
Also This

It was set up from the very start that homelander was like a child/infantile. Throwing tantrums whenever he didn't get what he wanted. Mommy issues with Stillwell. Hell, they even went as far as to have him breastfeeding.

It doesn't get anymore overt that this.
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>>220810792
Urban, Starr and Kripke were making at least 1 million each. I don't know if that's factored into the budget. But that would explain why it looked like a basic cable show instead of a prestige streaming event. Even 30 year old X-Files episodes look miles better.
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>NOOOOOOOO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSE TO LIKE SOLDIER BOY OR HOMELANDER OR THE REALLY SEXY DEEP GUY
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>>220805518
>the post that completely dismantled The Boys fans
Dangerously based.
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>>220810719
>>Can afford celebrities to show up and immediately be killed
i think theres some massive nepo/collusion ring going on there where the same gang of like 30 people get hire each other at outrageous salaries to show up. obviously nothing new for hollywood but i think it might genuinely be siphoning all the money out of production now
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>>220805259
>anymore
it's always been hard to end a show. 30 years ago shows still had shit endings.
The Boys was especially bad though, but the writing was horrible and the action also sucked.
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>>220811188
Bad endings used to be bad by mistake or by a lack of funds/time. Now they're deliberate choices design to either upset the audience or subvert their expectations. The idea of provided an entertaining experience (the entire point of watching entertainment media) has left the room.
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>>220810807
>The same people that accused The Boys of becoming the thing it's satiring are crying about not getting that big Marvel finale, sky beams and all.
The climax of the comic is a massive battle in Washington DC where the army wipes out almost all supes with airstrikes and artillery while Homelander and Black Noir kill each other

And this isn't the ending of the comic, there's an entire six fucking issues after that about Butcher's downfall and Hughie stopping him, which the show literally compressed into five minutes of the last episode
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>>220808311
Attack on Titan's ending is overhated. It's nowhere near GoT or Mass Effect in how bad it was. At worst, it has pacing issues, explains a bit too much, and the worst part of it (raping Eren's character), while fucking inexcusable, is extremely fixable specifically thanks to the fact he is so massively out-of-character in those scenes. Easiest fix ever, just rewrite it to keep him in character. He wanted Total Enemy Death from the start of the series. Let him keep doing that. He no way fagged Misaka since the start of the series. Keep him that way, seeing her just as a friend. Boom, 60% of the ending fixed right there. Now just rework the pacing issues and cut out all that shit about explaining Ymir Fritz motives (pic realted told us more than any exposition dump ever could).

Or I guess we could have Eren fall onto his knees and offer to suck Armin's femboy dick and eat Mikasa's shit.
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>>220811244
Good writers know that you probably can't make everyone happy with an ending, but they used to try. People hated the endings for Lost and Battlestar Galactica back in the day for example, but I personally liked both. Nowadays hack writers like Kripke intentionally just ruin their own work to spite the people watching. They either actively intend for their show to end badly out of contempt and immaturity, like The Boys, or they are too lazy, out of ideas, and cutting corners, like Game of Thrones and Stranger Things.
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>>220809847
lol we would absolutely be at war with Iran under Harris.
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>>220811401
>>220808537
The ending of Game of Thrones will never stop being funny because Benioff and Weiss rushed it after they landed a Star Wars movie
And then after the season flopped that badly their Star Wars contract was shitcanned
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>>220811415
>>220809847
I dunno about Iran, but we'd have ~50,000 US "Peacekeepers" in Eastern Ukraine trying to edge WW3
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I didn't have any problems with the ending other than the dialogue. It’s roughly how I expected it to end. Everything post season 1 leading up to it was shit though
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>>220811418
They deserved worse. Theyre still working after tanking a massive franchise and losing millions of potential dollars of revenue. Doing something like that should get you the film equivalent of disbarred.
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>>220811418
They had way more than just a Star Wars movie lined up. They had a Netflix series deal lined up and at least one or two other film projects as well. They were also in talks for some Marvel slop. All of them were canceled lmao. Since GoT ended those faggots have only done one thing. They wrote a few episodes of that Chinese propaganda show 3 Body Problem on Netflix and that's it.
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>>220805259
jews have no good ending really
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>>220811505
Nor will they soon enough.
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>>220811433
Every sitting us president since Reagan has been eyefucking Iran. Only difference when the dems pull shit like that they try to act like the good guys who are “liberating” people.
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>>220805301
Kys faggot
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Can someone actually tell me why you guys are bringing up Trump? I watched the first two seasons and a little bit of the third before getting busy, and watched the finale with friends last week.

It seemed pretty obvious from the beginning that Homelander was a big fish in a small pond with nothing to show for outside of his powers. What else am I missing?
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The ending suffered from the show simply going on too long, and the writers either being too lazy or incompetent to write realistic ways that Homelander doesn't win
>Season 3 introduces Soldier Boy, and the entire plan is to use his blast to depower and kill homelander
>This is so far the ONLY plan that they have to kill Homelander that even has a chance of succeeding
>scrap the plan entirely because of ryan, soldier boy gets thrown in the ice box
>Gen V and season 4 hype up the virus as what's gonna kill Homelander
>Even half of season 5 the virus is the plan
>whoops now we introduced V1 purely to promote a spin off show, the virus won't work anymore
>should we have soldier boy turn on Homelander again?
>NAH let's just give Kimiko his power at the literal last minute by blasting her with radiation
If they ended season 3 with Soldier Boy, Ryan, and Butcher killing Homelander it would have been much better than what we got.
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>>220811307
>Attack on Titan's ending is overhated. It's nowhere near GoT or Mass Effect in how bad it was
Nah, AoT was worse than both of those combined. I can't think of a worse ending.
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>>220811298
The comic and the show are two very distict anmals. That satire is completely absent from the book and Ennis fell into the trappings of the medium by having said Marvel tier ending.
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>>220811593
Later seasons just had Homelander saying Trump quotes, but changing some words around. The show turned into SNL with better costumes. Which is a shame because Antony Starr was brilliant when he was allowed to cook.
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>>220811620
Learn to write first faggot
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>>220805259
I'm late to the thread so I'm sure it's been said multiple times already but ending a story is always difficult and it's always been like this. It's a miracle when a story of any kind has a great ending. Yeah modern stories are sucking massive shit right now but just try to think of shows with great endings from any time period and you will struggle to think of more than a few.
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>>220806996
>construction site labourer
He's better off dead
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>>220805259
Because the ending isn't planned out ahead of time (because why plan the ending of something that, statistically, won't happen) and often by the time an ending is approached, the writing team has changed from the original team that started a show, as has the context when it was written. The way you make a good ending is by writing a full story all at once, releasing it, and being done, but that doesn't make money if a show is a good and a sequel/second season is demanded so it isn't done. To put it another way, there is no punishment for a bad ending; you already paid for the product (or you pirated it) so good or bad they get nothing, so there's no financial pressure to have a good ending.
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>>220811606
The real problem is that season 1 was a great show, and very different from the direction it started taking right after. This show had a plot, it had stakes, and it had direction in that first season. It also took itself far more seriously and offerred much sharper satire aimed at comic books and superhero movies. The characters were better and more nuanced, they were taken more seriously as well. And beginning with season 2 and every season after, it did nothing but spin its wheels in place and do everything to maintain an immovable status quo. It had no forward progression, the main story was basically abandoned, and the tone changed dramatically to being ultra edgy violence and gross out dark humor with brain dead leftist "satire" of modern politics instead. This show should have ended years ago, I agree. But it's because it only had one good season before completely betraying itself and the people who liked it in order to go on for as many years as possible while making a pathetic clown of itself to pretend like it had any sort of deep political message to convey. I feel like most people were just watching the last few seasons out of habit or obligation to finish than anything else.
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>>220806937
he's white
and powerful

that's enough for a jew
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>>220811707
Learn to media literacy you stupid cunt
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>>220811620
>>220811831
>Anmals distict
Learn to write first faggot
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>>220811816
Season 1 was definitely the best, but I think it was serviceable through season 2 and 3. After that there's really no defending it anymore.
A big thing is the tone changed entirely. Season 1 even being in the same room as Homelander had all the boys on edge, one slip up and they were going to be dead for sure. Then in later seasons they constantly manage to get away from him. Like that one scene of Hughie in the fucking vents and Homelander just chooses to blindly laser them instead of flying up or using his xray vision.

Not to mention the constant resetting of the status quo. That's what destroyed the show for me personally. Almost every season they show that Homelander has snapped, or is about to snap, and the boys have some internal conflict between them, just for the next season all the boys are friends again and Homelander is back to caring about his image.
When Homelander lasered the guy in public for throwing a soda at Ryan, that should have been the turning point for a full blown dictatorship. He saw that his supporters cheered him on for killing a man in public. But instead, they decided to make it a Trump gag with putting Homelander on trial like Trump was with the impeachment stuff, but they couldn't even commit to the fucking bit and started the season with Homelander instantly winning the trial and then going back to being too scared of ruining his image to do anything again
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>>220811988
>Season one: I hope I don’t blink or breathe in a way Homelander finds disrespectful. Or they’ll be cleaning my skull out of the walls.
>Season five: FUCK YOU HOMELANDER YOU PATHETIC MANBABY. YOU AIN’T SHIT AND WE’RE GONNA CELEBRATE THE DAY YOU DIE
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>>220811944
Using a cellphone you fucking cumguzzler. What's your excuse? Other than not being very bright of course.
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>>220812092
Fuck off faggot, the posters showed the earth being nuked, the vought tower destroyed but we got scorched carpet instead of scorched earth so go kys if you think this was a good ending
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>>220812029
Not to mention they severely dumbed Homelander down. He wasn't a genius in the first season, but he was clever and manipulative enough to get what he wanted
>Immediately after the plane incident, he put on the performance of a lifetime to the media, telling the world that red tape from the government prevented him from saving all of them, and used it as leverage to get himself power from the government and to have the people demand it as well
Then we go anywhere in the future and he's way fucking dumber. Let's take season 5 for example. He has Hughie, MM, and Frenchie as prisoners in a starlight camp. If he's not going to kill them, why THE FUCK are they just in a normal prison camp instead of a fucking room in Vought Tower where it would be a million times harder for the boys to stage a rescue?
Also Starlight is on the run and is one of the biggest thorns in Homelanders side. You're really telling me that he wouldn't use all his government and supe resources to track down her dad and the rest of her family to take them hostage? He's a normal fucking civillian, there's absolutely no way he's in hiding to the point where the government can't find him, but they can find fucking Ryan in a shit shack in the middle of nowhere
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>Depower Homelander
>Have him egotistically try to fight Butcher
>Gets beat to fuck
>Starts begging for his life in a less Kripke way
>Butcher beats him to death with his bare hands
>Entire thing is portrayed as triumphant before rapidly becoming off-putting because now that Homelander is defenseless everyone who isn't Butcher that has a heart just sees Butcher turning euthanasia into animal torture
>When Butcher finally kills Homelander he looks angrier than he was before even though he got what he wants
>Show some kind of 'snap' moment where the Boys would turn on Butcher, my best suggestion would be either have him murder Ashley just because she's there or bring Marie into the plot and have Butcher betray and kill her because she's strong enough to be Homelander 2 and he might as well pre-emptively strike
>rest plays out as normal
i saved your shitty show
didn't watch past s2 btw
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>>220812183
it's actually funny as fuck to me how everyone calls the ending shit and all their ideas to "fix" it manage to be even worse. I guess the ending's not that bad after all
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>>220811988
For me, the aspects that stick out most to me about season 1 that prove the show went down the toilet as early as season 2 were as follows:

1.
>When they have the invisible guy captured and want to kill him but are terrified of Homelander seeing them through the buildings they are hiding in, it made it feel like the stakes were extremely high to pull off their plans. Later seasons they just walk into Vought HQ every week and nothing happens.

2.
>The relationship stuff between Hughie and Starlight that feels genuine, sincere, and real. Before they made her character a vulgar, bitter, aggressive bitch and turn most of their relationship into fighting, arguing, or sex.
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>>220812183
>>220812223
Starlight and MM were just strutting around in street clothes when they were the most wanted terrorists in the country. And the writers just had a reference point for how the government handles fugitives with Luigi Mangione. I swear people who thought the season was fine were watching it on a second screen.
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>>220812138
So it's the maketing teams fault that you were stupid enough to tune in just for the sky beams. If that's the case, you played yourself girly man.
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>>220810807
it doesn't have to be marvel sky beams and lasers
but the fucking posters for season 5 advertised nukes or city wide destruction
the posters advertised homelander destroying something.
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>>220812572
don't advertise something you cannot deliver asshole

don't get mad when fans expect you to deliver what you promised motherfucker.

don't call people chuds when they don't accept your shitty ending retard.
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>>220805518
Remind me what you fags were sayint years ago about GOYT? Lol
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>>220812867
Lol, This sorry motherfucker's got buyers remorse and is tryna make it my fault.

You got what you fucking deserve.
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>>220812654
Kripke destroyed your optimism instead

kek
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>>220807206
How do billionaires have such a lacking grasp of causality and prediction? Oh.. hah
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>>220812959
>>220812993
the last fight is very lame.
because homelander is the fastest superhero on earth, faster than a bullet...
in the last fight he tries to escape 3 times and Butcher and homelanders son keeps grabbing him.
that's extremely retarded.
homelander SHOULD be able to fly away.
it's very stupid.
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>>220805914
Corporations are good and your friend.
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>>220811307
>Attack on Titan's ending is overhated. It's nowhere near GoT or Mass Effect in how bad it was.
This is how you out yourself as a speed reading newfag. The ending to AoT was universally despised when it came out and everyone who was reading it month to month was absolutely baffled at how it ended. Me included. It is complete shit and Eren might not have begged to suck a dick but him crying about Mikasa cucking him after he dies is just as much character assassination. It makes everything Eren did look retarded because in the end he whined and complained instead of just sticking to his principles and dying with dignity.

Oh man don't even get me started on how much AoT stank after the basement reveal.
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>>220812183
They didn't have the setup necessary in season 5 to do the Butcher is the final villain ending, but if you are going to do it, that's a much better way of setting it up than Terror just suddenly dying. Homelander's death also ties into it nicely and this version of Homelander's ending shows a more nuanced take on his character. It's extraordinary how many times some random faggot on the internet came up with an ending for The Boys that's way better than the shitshow we actually got.
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Trump the deal-maker. Without his powers (money) he's just a weak man trying to offer all he's got left, his ability to suck cock. Art of the deal.
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>>220811620
The military wiping out the supes is the opposite of a marvel finale. The show actually had a marvel finale without the budget.
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>>220805518
>the left have taken full control of hollyjew since 2010
>they still can’t write
Uhmm, akshually guys, you just don’t get it! You have to like, hate what I hate, or you’re a like, total nazi-racist-homophobic-bigot-alt right-chud-incel-buzzword-islamophobic-misogynist-bad bad man!!!
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>>220813211
AoT after the basement reveal was such a let down. Imagine building an interesting world that leaves all of your viewers wondering what's outside the walls for years, just for the reveal to be that it's fucking WW2.
And the ending was bafflingly bad, because the characters themselves admit that they don't have any better idea than the rumbling, but want to morally oppose it because saying genocide is bad, while acknowledging that the enemies will genocide them no matter what if they don't do the rumbling.
Also the last time they all saw Annie she was a fucking traitorous psycho who openly took joy in killing her former comrades, using one as a fucking yoyo, but then suddenly it's "AHAHAHA DUDE ANNIE IS EATING PIE SO MESSILY HAHA, ALRIGHT LET'S TEAM UP" as if they wouldn't execute her on sight
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>>220812654
>>220812654
I always saw these posters as wish fullfillment. Not to be taken literal, but as a means to reflect character motivations. Vought Tower fallen down behind Butcher for instance.

Remember the Antman movie posters? He's interacting with various Avengers on each one.

Never judge a book by its cover.
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>>220805301
>no homelander melty
>underwhelming final battle
>sloppy pacing still can't drop the dick jokes while covering for the rest of the meandering season
>rushed character arc beats to match the comic without earning it
>powers randomly fluctuating for plot convenience
>lack of world-building depth
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>>220807055
>why would jewish writers take the time to blaspheme jesus (but never, say, mohammed, or moses, or abraham)??? It just doesnt make sense!!
Im not even a religious fag but it's been decades of this from these people, it's blatantly obvious it's just more of their eternally seething desert war shit.
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>>220813407
I know that homelander was never going to nuke the cities on camera

but they could have done it off camera. or we could see news reels about it like the 2014 Godzilla movie

it's kind of a cop out, but just have homelander go kill a bunch of people against him or destroy a city and just have the news cover it
in the last episode he only killed that one rich guy. AND THEY DID IT OFF SCREEN.....
they literally did what I just said, so they knew they could have him kill people off screen
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>>220807055

Bro the Jews literally tell you they want to genocide you. How fucking stupid are you to not have noticed this?
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>>220805259
I can't take any opinion seriously that uses written ebonics slang.
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>>220813097
>>220813381
Something grandiose and high stakes is exactly a marvel finale.

The execution was sloppy and the journey to get there was janky as all hell, but the showrunners told the story they wanted to tell.

It's interesting how you can know what we know regarding their limitations and budget and still have this much of a fit about the whole thing.

Sure it wasn't scorched earth, but are we to act like homelander because we didn't get the ending we wanted?
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>>220810344
>>220810320
>>220810675
They had a kid Homelander get beaten up by adult supes as a form of training. He does know the basics of fighting. The blood choke against Soldier Boy was also quite solid.
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>>220809033
No budget for battle scenes but for a fucking samuel jackson cameo
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>>220813775
no because homelander was never dumb. he was smart. he was powerful.

to defeat him you had to outsmart him. you had to outsmart homelander.
that's the problem. is not the lack of punches.
it's the lack of intelligence
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>>220810363
That’s what winning looks like
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>>220813823
That's where the "sloppy execution" falls into play.
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>>220812183
All they had to do was have a little more action and less hateful "HEHEHEHE FUCK THIS GUY LETS HUMILIATE HIM" tone toward the guy you spent the last 5 seasons humanizing by going every minute detail of his tragic backstory. The finale was fucked no matter what but that would've at least made easier to stomach.

Kind of funny how it ended in the exact same teasing "OH MAN HOMELANDER'S REALLY GONNA SNAP THIS TIME" way that every season before has ended but this time they just killed homelander mid-snap and ended the show kek
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>>220805518
Calling everyone who disliked the final season “right wingers” is such a lazy argument. Plenty of fans across the political spectrum disliked it because of the writing and payoff, not because they “missed the point” of the show.

The biggest complaint I keep seeing has nothing to do with politics, it’s that the season spent years building up “scorched earth” and an all out collapse, only for the finale to end in what felt like a pretty underwhelming office fight. People expected escalation and consequences on a massive scale, not a finale that felt oddly contained.

And honestly, reducing Homelander to just a Trump parody hurts the character. Part of what made him interesting early on was that he felt like his own terrifying, narcissistic entity rather than a direct one to one political caricature. Even Antony Starr has talked in interviews about wanting Homelander to remain his own character instead of becoming too on the nose politically.

Disliking the ending doesn’t automatically make someone MAGA or right wing any more than liking it makes someone left wing. Sometimes people just think the writing dropped the ball. FAGGOT
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>>220813601
I don't understand what Homelander wreaking havok on or offscreen would add to the overall narrative. Seems shallow and useless.

We've seen him do it countless times, we know what he's capable of. Why is this the point of contention for most folks?

For me it was enough just knowing that he could and wondering if or when he would. I believe he was such an effective villain for 5 seasons straight because of that restraint and I'm glad we didn't get him going on a killing spree in the finale.
His threat on live T.V. wouldn't of had that weight.
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>>220814090
>I believe he was such an effective villain for 5 seasons straight because of that restraint and I'm glad we didn't get him going on a killing spree in the finale.
Nah, teasing every single season with "bro homelanders gonna LOSE IT" just for him to barely do anything is fucking stupid and anti climatic.
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>>220814484
It kept you and others coming back so it couldn't have been THAT stupid.

Everything doesn't have to end with a bang, sometimes things just end. I feel bad for you folks that never received the catharsis you thought you'd been promised.
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>>220813775
>Something grandiose and high stakes is exactly a marvel finale.
No, a marvel finale is when all the good guys fight all the bad guys and they conveniently beat all the bad guys and save the day because the plot demands it even though the writing is absolutely retarded to force it to happen, and Kimiko remembers to use the power of love to girls get it done all over Homelander.
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>>220809033
>we just don't have the budget bro lol everything has to take place in the same 3 rooms lmao nothing we can do



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