How would you fix Bond?
make it interesting to begin with
>>220831780Put it to bed. This desire to have every series continue until the end of the time is purely vain capitalism.
>>220831780Le Chiffre style.
Cast a handsome Anglo-Saxon man as Bond. Cast sexy 16 years old Bond girls. Make the villains Israelis, Indians and blacks.
more cool gadgetsjust make the entire movie be about cool gadgets
>>220831780Make a movie about Brosnan's Bond coming out of retirement to put an end to the Ozempic epidemic.
switch genre to spaghetti western
make him black and give it a little soul flava.
The obvious way would be to make it a period piece, but it's hard to do that without falling into heavy-handed pandering given Bond films are for a mass audience. I agree with >>220831830.
I wouldn't, I would have stopped making them after Die Another Day. Bond doesn't belong in the current socio-political order, he's too old-fashioned, so they have no choice but to alter him as a character and make him a feminist faggot.
What, like a sandwich, what do you mean?
make it fun againdoesn't have to be Roger Moore levels of camp, but not every Bond movie has to be le gritty
>>220831780The First Light video game is doing that right now. It's very kino.
>>220831780make him black, gay and lame
>>220831948Would also suggest a period piece.The main reason that Bond can't work in a modern setting, is because spies don't work in the classical way anymore.Throughout history, spies and diplomats have been interchangeable. With this, it follows that your classical spy would be civilized and charismatic. Bond has that, but also blended in a ruthlessness that was learned from WW2, so you basically have the charm and the culture from the British upper class, mixed with the ruthlessness of a soldier.However, in modern times you don't work spies the same way anymore. Any deep undercover mission is done by idealistic converts (traitors).How are you going to send a man on a mission to collect intelligence, with AI facial recognition everywhere? Where an online presence is normal for 99% of all people, and not having a digital footprint stands out.Part of the reason modern Bond feels like a generic action hero, is because that's all that's left now.As >>220832085 says, Bond needs to be fun, but to be fun you need some leeway, which a modern setting doesn't allow, with the technology available making it impossible to suspend your disbelief enough to allow Bond to operate as a spy.
>>220831780>inb4 a bunch of gay boomers argue that it should be a period piece set in the 60s with aggressive campness and starring Henry Cavill
>>220832094I was going to say this.Gameplay looks uninteresting. But the story is almost perfect. It's pretty much exactly what a Bond reboot should be.
Bond became too much of a boring weepy bastard over the course of the Craig era. They should focus on simply making him a cool character again.Make the movies fun, but not like Disney "fun". More or less return to the tone of Goldeneye(before the Brosnan movies went a little too over the top).Have a series of awesome set pieces. Get a strong action movie director, like the John Wick guy.That's all you need.
more faithful adaptations of the original novels, done as a cold war period piece, rated R with more explicit sex and violence than was allowed when the series began or as it transitioned to PG-13
>>220832094it's mediocre at best.>hold W to follow an NPC to another NPC>cutscene>hold W to go to a third NPC>cutscene>hold W while driving a car for 5 minutes, no you can't exceed 10 MPH>cutscene followed by unskippable dialogue>hold W to walk to the objective marked out in font of you>cutscene>you can now fight this guy, no you can't use a gun, maybe you can use a gadget if you've remembered to gather the 15 drills and 20 car batteries it takes to fire a tazer>cutscene
>>220832173The gameplay is fun enough, albeit I wish it had more freedom and open-endedness like Hitman. Characters, writing, dialogue, action scenes, etc are all peak Bond though. I like the actor they got for him, he's a good fit.
actually end the series when you kill the main character
>>220831780Make it silly again. It takes itself too seriously. I'm not saying silly in a marvel way, but in a classic era Bond.
>>220832173Story is trash.>you're a trainee that survives an ambush>blow up the entire island and somehow survive>same thing could have been done with one missile, and would have been cheaper too>MI6 offer you a shit deal to work for them, despite you almost dying >Bond accepts for no reason, despite M literally telling him there are no upsides, not even good payIn the game, what is Bonds incentive to even join the service? If he's just a thrill seeker, why would they hire him?Also, the pirate mission is retarded>we need to talk to this guy>no we can't just arrange a meeting through intermediary assets or through bribes, we need go there as random nobodies, somehow steal 100000 dollars (because the agency is having cutbacks and can't just front the money?)>you have to win an auction, there is no other way to do this>immediately after doing that, go and talk to the guy anyway and give him a hostage >have to sneak to the Pirate leader anyway afterwardsall of it is retarded>>220832223It's literally just a rehash of nu-Bond, with an even more effeminate faggot playing the protagonist Also explain why we couldn't have an attractive Moneypenny.
>>220832223>I like the actor they got for him, he's a good fit.The problem is, as far as I know, the actor is Patrick Gibson. He's young Dexter from Original Sin. They just completely changed his face. His actual face is a bit too... not rough enough let's say. He looks like a young techbro in real life.I assume they were struggling to find an actor who looked right and could act, especially with the actual film casting coming round the corner.
>>220832320>Bond accepts for no reason, despite M literally telling him there are no upsides, not even good pay>In the game, what is Bonds incentive to even join the service? If he's just a thrill seeker, why would they hire him?I know this is hard to grasp for the psychotic boomer who only cares about themselves, but some people are motivated by the desire to try and do good in the world. Crazy, I know.
>>220832355He wants to do good in the world?Other than that being gay and lame as a motivation for a protagonist, he doesn't even give that as a reason.I would just have thought they would have fleshed out his reasons for joining the organisation, instead of allowing retards to speculate that maybe Bond is actually some hippie faggot that wants peace on earth.
>>220832355>>220832320kek reminds me of the libertarian police joke>“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”
>>220831780probably someone taller
>>220832176>Bond became too much of a boring weepy bastard over the course of the Craig erait's so weird that by the second movie they were already doing the "YOU'RE TOO OLD AND RECKLESS, BOND!" nonsense when as far as we know he had only been a 00 for a few months at that point. Then they did the same shit for 3 more movies somehow.
>>220832439>protagonist wants world peace>this confuses and enrages the boomer
>>220831780>No origin story>No faggot shit>The minorities he meets are at the places he visits.>Fucks 2-3 bitches per film>Pretend craig never happened and just have standalone films. No arching story, we're done with that.
>>220831780I wouldn'tI would listen to what he had to say which is what no one else did
>>220831830This. Applies to movies and games.
>>220832484remind me how spy agencies work towards world peace?I was under the assumption that toppling governments, corrupting assets and stealing technology was to help your country, not save the ice caps.
you basically have to make it a period piece. There's nothing interesting about modern day Bond villains. You can still have it be serious and "realistic" while having a story that's actually about Bond's mission instead of being about Bond coming to terms with the job or whatever. Bond is sent to some country in eastern Europe or the Middle East, ostensibly to prevent a communist takeover, but along the way he uncovers something even more nefarious and has to stop that as well.
>>220832505I will add:>no more girlboss Bond girls>include at least scene that shows how refined and cultured Bond is>Gadgets, put in some fucking gadgets>White, attractive Moneypenney>White, male M and Felix Leiter>at least one scene of Bond playing Baccarat
Make him 6'4
>>220831780Pre-bog, I would've given Kirby a stab at it
>>220832560that would require writers who are able to thread two coherent plots together, and audience that doesn't consist of retards who have had their attention spans ruined by decades of short form entertainment and producers who have the balls to accept risk.On top of that, you can't have something like communism be bad anymore, because zoomers are all retarded and think it's good. You can't have a period piece, because if you do it accurately, people will say it's racist, so you'll have to have characters that alleviate the inevitable seething from the young, left leaning demographic, which will lead to seething from anyone who understands what a period piece is meant to be.
>>220832601Sorry Chud, this is your new M.
Here's a quote from the Bond novel Diamonds are Forever:>Bond had a natural affection for coloured people, but he reflected how lucky England was compared with America where you had to live with the colour problem from your schooldays up. He smiled as he remembered something Felix Leiter had said to him on their last assignment together in America. Bond had referred to Mr Big, the famous Harlem criminal, as ‘that damned nigger’. Leiter had picked him up. ‘Careful now, James,’ he had said. ‘People are so damn sensitive about colour around here that you can’t even ask a barman for a jigger of rum. You have to ask for a jegro.Unless you have period accurate banter, it will be impossible for me to suspend my disbelief. And I know the producers would never allow period accurate banter, so period pieces are out of the question.
>>220832705LMAO
>>220832532No I was just making fun of you for being a fucking retard triggered by the concept of wanting world peace.Doing good =/= devoting your life to world peaceBond is clearly motivated by the desire to protect king and country, along with the need to prove himself due to a chip on his shoulder caused by being an orphan. Not complicated. Seethe harder.
>>220832761>Bond is clearly motivated by the desire to protect king and countryFirstly, that's not what your original argument was, where you stated he was motivated by a general desire to "do good". Do good by who?This is exactly my issue, he is not at all motivated by patriotism. He simply turns up, gets told it's a shit job and accepts it.Either flesh out the origin story or skip past it, what they've done is half-assed.
>>220831780A team up.
>>220831780weet ik
>>220831780The simple fact is the UK is irrelevant in international politics. Their influence has been on decline for decades now and its now practically nothing but the same as every other western nation that isn't considered one of major players. It has to be a period piece or some kind of alternate history take for it to work.
>>220833258UK had become irrelevant before the first Bond movie came out dude
>>220832125You kind of just need to give MI6 sci fi advanced tech to make bond still fun in a modern setting. Bond can still infiltrate places because they hack in and give him new solid identities and replace his face on CCTV or whateverBasically it becomes soemthing where only characters already familiar with his face would be a threat of exposing him and even then he just has to avoid walking right up to them. If he’s pretending to be henchman number 8 that shouldn’t be difficult
Don't make it be misogynistic anymore, for starters.
>>220831780>wanting to glorify glowniggers in the year of the lord 2026
>>220833258The whole context the bind novels were written in was the post WW2 decline of the British empire and Britains weaker place in the world caught between two superpowers. I zoomers are retards but why the fuck do they think britain was somehow more relevant in international politics in the 1950’s?
>>220833279They were playing second fiddle to the US during the Cold War and still adding a little something during the War on Terror but nowadays they are fucking nothing. You can't even pretend Britain is relevant any more.
>>220833406but that's the point, it would all come down to, in almost its entirety, how good the tech is, not how good Bond is.movie Bond has some cool gadgets, developed for emergency situations, but 99% of the mission was him and his own initiative. Modern Bond would be some techbro in a basement with full satellite coverage and a drone with thermal camera revealing everything to Bond who just walks through a facility while all the cameras are turned off, and full wallhacks thanks to the tech advantage.That's if you didn't just hack the facility in the first place.
>>220833482>why the fuck do they think britain was somehow more relevant in international politics in the 1950’s?They had literally just won WW2 and had occupied Berlin, and were a key ally against the soviets.
>>220833482The UK military and intelligence community has shrunk by a little more than half since the days of the Cold War. Its not controversial to say they were more involved in foreign affairs in the past. And if the UK is so much more irrelevant now than then it doesn't need to be the centerpiece of spy fiction.
>>220832983I would love a Russian James Bond film. Following the adventures of a kgb agent.
>>220833598Seventeen Moments of Spring
>>220831780Start by writing it as a satire rather than a serious drama and the rest of the pieces should fall into place.
>>220831780It’s awkward in today’s day and age because you’d have bond fighting isis or mexicans/drug cartels, modern day villains would be brown people africans and middle eastern people, and those are the people who work for Amazon so what do you do? You just end up with a movie of a white guy killing brown and black people.
No sad boy alcoholism.Make him the most dangerous man on this planet.
>>220833723>Bond fighting ISISgive me a rundown of how exactly he's going to infiltrate ISIS?
>>220831780make him black or arabgaymuslimdisabled
>>220833572Britain's empire was in shambles and they were very clearly not a world power anymore even with the victory. The Suez Crisis in 1956 proved that.
>>220833744Blackface use your brain
>>220833744This guy could do it
Stop copying the bourne identity get the fuck over yourself and go back to fun adventures where he has things like a laser watch and an invisible carYou take all the fun shit out of bond you just get a wonky political "thriller" where a spy walks around using his legal name.An inherently silly premise should be handled with a sense of levity. Even Connery chased midget men into mazes.
>>220833803>Even Connery chased midget men into mazesThat was Moore
>>220833744durka allah durka mohammad jihad!
>>220833764Not being a superpower doesn't mean you're not a world power.The intelligence capabilities, the fact they had nukes by 1952 and even developed their own hydrogen bomb later basically cements them as a power.On top of that, the number of overseas territories, as well as established intelligence networks and an army that could (in those days) still be considered a threat definitely put them above some random euro nation.
>>220831780Make him a chav
>>220831780Bond vs china Bond vs arabs muslims etcBond vs russia Bond vs usaBond vs central america Bond vs europe Bond vs south america Bond vs africa
>>220831780Bond starts a rebellion and just starts murdering everyone in England using his full licence.
>>220833744Same way he became Japanese
Bond get Korean BBQ
>>220831780Bond needs to be INCLUSIVE and DIVERSE
>>220835537Bond needs to hate PATRIOTISM and NATIONALISM.Old Bond was a problematic nazi chud for believing in "King and Country." He's fixed now.
>>220831780the question is WHY would you? it's a book series with over twice as many films as original books. it has been a tongue in cheek formula for 60 years. just let it go. the further away from ian fleming being a live and writing new books, the worse the movies get
>>220831780make him gay
>>220831780Stop making Bond.
>>220831780Set it during the Cold War. There isn't any other way.
>>220833598He would be the ultimate bond girl for such a film.
Make it set during the Cold WarBond doesnt work in the modern era. All spying nowadays is done via hacking and computers
>>220835708/thread
>>220831780Bring Craig back. >Turns out he survived the missile strikes>MI6 has been compromised>he has to go rogue to stop them>Blofeld survived too and orchestrated it all
>>220831863Anything but this is a waste of time
>>220835860>>220831780Bring her back.
>>220831780make it fun again
Give the franchise to Justin Lin. Fast & Furious is tonally closer to Bond than any of the Craig movies.
>>220831780it's been fixed, in video games
>>220831780Just skip skyfall. That miserable piece of shit depressing gay movie. BEING CAUGHT WAS PART OF HIS PALAN GOMFOHIGADOADGO"IDBHL?<FS
>>220832094>>220832173for fucks sake, stay on /v/ you retarded faggots
>>220835559Based antifa Bond, fuck Orban!!!
>>220836682Bond should look like a leftist hero!
>>220836727based
Bond vs Bonds shit007 is some new face no name actorPlot is he's tasked with investigating a terror group Gets abducted by them, turns out it's pierce brosnan and the few other surviving (returning to the franchise) former 007s that didn't get put out to pasture at retirement (read: killed)New guy is forced to choose between the job and the men just like him, on top of some Manchurian candidate shitSpy vs spy shit and acknowledging the different faces
>>220831780Retro series set in the 60's!!!FACT!!!
>>220831780Cast Callum Turner
>>220831780go back in time and remove Jeff Bezos from existence. this is the simplest way.the worst thing about Amazon controlling Bond is they removed the movies from prime
we need to let some things end instead of keeping them alive like vampires
>>220831780Make him a Black woman.
>>220831780>Period piece>Queen Elizabeth, John Dee & Edward Kelly as Q>Spanish War intrigues, cryptography with the above's 'Angel Language' and remote viewing>Bond has to get back to England to get Drake's boys in the water in time>Bad guys are DUTCH papists & City of London>Do the Oxfordian DeVere-Shakespeare thing as the meeting place for major briefings and weave that in to the palace intriguesMaster & Commander + Sharpe + Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy + a little bit of 'magick' and woowoo spook shit, and a lot of HEMA melee & black powder fight coordination.
>>220833579>The UK military and intelligence community has shrunk by a little more than half since the days of the Cold War.If only there was a bond film that questioned the practicality and justification for MI6's continued existence in a post cold-war era...
