Star Wars is actually dead
>>220843571Good riddance.
Rip
>>220843571At least it was worth pushing away all the old fans.
>>220843571Obsession premiered over a week ago as wellThis is insane
>>220843571Holy fuck. The theater ratio really drives the point home. Don’t studio contracts stipulate how many theaters a movie airs in? I wonder what that cost the Mouse.
>>220843672Anyone fond of it past the OT were a passle of faggots anyway.
Who murdered Star Wars?
>>220843695Mid Blumhouse horror flick about a BPD bitch
>>220843571It was inevitable. >>220843695Kathleen Kennedy
>>220843695rian johnson, kathleen kennedy and dave filoni
>>220843695Kathleen Kennedy
>>220843571They told me they don't want straight white males to watch their movies anymore, so I saw Obsession instead
>>220843695whoever the dude was who made the second new movie that basically ignored all setup from the first new movie to "subvert expectations"
>>220843695Lucas
The moment Finn took off his helmet in the original 2016 teaser was when Star Wars died
>>220843695Everyone involved in tros
>>220843571obsessed
>>220843571Imagine telling someone a star wars movie made less money than some low budget horror flick 15years ago kek
>>220843763We didn't know then but now we do.
>>220843797Actually we knew thenBut they called us chuds instead of listening
>>220843695Who would've thought putting a bunch of humourless, self-important, middle-aged women obsessed with gender politics in charge of a space adventure franchise would lead to it becoming stale and uncool? You couldn't see that shit coming in a million years.
>>220843803I still call (your) chuds
>theaters are 90% emptymaybe they can lower the ticket prices from 15$ to 5$ and they will make more money since more people would be willing to just go on a whim and not care if it's good or not. i remember when manitee's at non dollar theaters were 3.50
>>220843571Kathleen wanted this.She didn't want core fans.She wanted fringe minorities who don't watch Star Wars.(((Disney))) knew what they were doing.No big deal.
>>220843695disney killed star wars by buying it with no fucking planthey told george to fuck off with his plan, decanonized the eu so they wouldnt have to pay royalties, then couldnt come up with a single fucking thing to make the movie about so they just decided to make a glib facsimile demake of episode 4
>>220843695
>>220843850>they told george to fuck off with his plan, decanonized the eu so they wouldnt have to pay royaltiesbroken clock
>>220843763Finn wasn't even close to being the worst character or the problem with the ST. They did Boyega dirty.
when is it gonna finally die and be buried? how many decades is it gonna take
>>220843695Women, they'll still rather see a romcom or horror over Star Wars, no matter how much they pander to them.
>FUCK YOU, MEN, STOP WATCHING OUR FILMS!!!>NOOOOOOOO, MEN COME BACK, YOU NEED TO WATCH OUR FILMS
>>220843891They spent $4 billion on it. It will limp on for a long time yet out of sheer inability to concede failure.
>>220843571cool can you faggots shut the fuck up about it then?
>>220843695Kathleen Kennedy and her posse.Watch the interviews with David Iger immediately after they procured the IP. He's being very direct there - Star Wars, as opposed to Disney princesses and their IPs, was supposed to target the male demographic first and foremost.But then he was contractually obligated to keep Kennedy as the head, and it turned out she had a VERY different idea on what to do.
Last good film came out during Reagan's first term. Time to Old Yeller the sonnovabitch.
>Lucas managed to keep the franchise alive and relevant for almost 4 decades even with the reception the prequels got >Mouse gets a hold of the rights and within three years runs it into the ground >First Star Wars movie released in 7 years get dethroned by a low budget horror movieGeorge basically made a monkey paw wish by trying to keep his franchise alive for new generations. Now nobody gives a shit about it anymore
>>220843695It died as soon as Lucas sold it to Disney.
Boomer franchise is dead next is Marvel and DC
>>220843951Bob Iger was a limp noodle too who went along with whatever Kennedy said.
>>220843695Many people had the knives but Kathleen Kennedy buried the body.
>>220843891That's already the case now. It died after TFA and they tried to keep it relevant with a fuck ton of related tv shows but those faded and their latest movie was a dud. The franchise is effectively finished at this point
>>220843571I mean it's not exactly a "proper" Star Wars movie release, wait until the next episode to come out
>>220843930We don't talk about movies here, we use movies as an excuse to bitch about women and blacks or whatever we happen to feel threatened by that day. So no, we will not shut up about it.
>>220843994Unironically what could he do against her? She's a power WOMAN in Hollywood, with an equally powerful husband and a contract that meant she couldn't be fired for the next 5 years.
>>220843695The better question is why they had to keep it alive for this long
>>220843994what a fucking retarded ideaof course you should go for the most iconic landmark in the franchisethat is like making a 'jurassic park' park and make it set in the future with no jungle or plantlife with mechanical dinos that look nothing like the original
>>220844065>Unironically what could he do against her?Same thing you do with anyone you can't fire. Promote them. Thank her for her spectacular work ensuring the strength of the Star Wars brand, create her a new studio division focused on whatever then make her head of it. Move her somewhere she can't do any further damage to the brand. Moot point because it's way too late now but that's what should've been done after Last Jedi or at the very least after Solo was filmed twice back to back only to bomb horrendously at the box office.
>>220843694Mouseshill cope, the sequels were uniquely dogshit and that's why nobody cares about them
>>220843571>the force is femaleTurned out female are just trend chasing creature. SW is always for nerds.
>>220843967lucas didn't keep it alive, books, videogames, cartoons that people actually loved and he had little to no involvement with kept it alive in spite of how poorly the special editions and the prequels were thought of, and it's exactly been the same during the disney era, the movies have been mostly shit but videogames not connected to mainline star wars are still selling well.
>>220844048t. drooling streamslop retard
>>220844133No. I'm a drooling nostalgiafag retard who doesn't watch anything made after 1999.Get it right, faggot.
>>220844131>still selling wellThey're shit too though lol, do you actually think they're comparable to the pre disney ones?
>>220844102>Promote them.She was bound by contract as head of LucasFilm. She's not stupid. She would know what the promotion is and declined.
>>220844048There's nothing threatening about brown people and women making awful movies kek
>>220844154This. Only tRump hires women that stupid.>Now your the executive director of diplomatic outreach in the Congo.
>>220844144You watch garbage to own the chuds and cry that they wont play pretend with you lol
>>220844131Verifiably this. My gaming buddies still buy the CCG and the gaming miniatures, but I don't think they've seen even half the Disney stuff.Star Wars was always more of a merch machine than anything profound as a film franchise. Everyone just wants to imagine swinging a lightsaber like a retard hopped up on candy.
>>220844154She would've taken it because it would've come with more money, more shares, a fancy title and an extended contract. Plus it avoids the risk that your employer will actually get some balls and fire you/force you to resign. That's generally the price for saving face for both parties. Even if she, and the company, knows why she's being moved the official narrative and one given to the public is that she's being moved due to her success and being needed in a new, challenging role that needs an experienced head to oversee.
>>220844194>ChudsThat's just a fancy word for "autistic incel loser", aka Star Wars fans.
>>220843694Harsh but true. Star Wars has always been slop
>it thinks posting lol or kek at the end of everything it says hides that it's seethingautistic browns man
>>220843571how's The Backrooms doing?
>>220843571Good. Someone competent might actually do something with the franchise now>>220843695Rian Johnson
>>2208447301st place
Star Wars fans are the biggest cornballs in the world.
>>220843695the fans who never want to see anything new. we're crying out for adapted EU content but these fags will do nothing but shit on the idea. apparently it's only hardcore fans that care about the EU. with the same logic you could have said Marvel movies will fail because it's only the hardcores that read comic books
>>220843571What's the current box office for Mando? Reminder that it has to do like half a million dollars to be profitable, at least.
>>220843994The sad thing is that the general philosophy here is right.They SHOULD focus on new stories and ideas instead of just rehashing the same shit over and over again. Unfortunately, their idea of presenting new ideas is to present the old ideas again but with the names changed.
>>220844785On a production budget of 165 million, they've grossed $176,187,583 so far.
>>220844102That's literally what they did do. She had lost all actual power by ~2020 and Filoni was in charge of every creative decision of the franchise.
>>220843763Yeah turns out putting Lovecraftian body horror in the first five seconds of your trailer is a bad idea
>>220843695Time. Space fantasy slop could only popular during a very specific period of time.
>>220844826>more than $10m profitNice. Good work team
>>220843571I feel a sense of relief.
>>220844809>They SHOULD focus on new stories and ideasYES, and none of them having anything whatsoever to do with Star Wars.Jesus Christ, grow up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Z9orDS84c
>>220844854Need a 2.5x multiplier to break even after marketing retard
>>220844854Well, no, because movie theaters take 50%. So Disney has made $88,093,791.5 so far.
>>220844835
>>220844846We need more semi-grounded Columbus/Master and Commander space exploration/conquest flicks, (not Star Trek's preachy social messaging or Star Wars corny universe of ethnic stereotypes).Something ballsy and hopeful, not just 2 hour toy commercials.
>>220844765Ehhhhhhh, there are adults who are into Sonic the Hedgehog and Pokemon. Star Wars is for autistic sissy faggots, but there's lamer shit that gets similar attention.
>>220843891why can't it be rejuvenated. why it is impossible to make good things in the current day and return them to their former glory? if they made George Lucas' sequel trilogy, for example, and actually executed it pretty well, i'd pay to watch that
>>220843763this is disingenuous, maybe the basket weaving forums were upset but TFA was received well. TLJ killed it, every normie walked out of that one disappointed
>>220844065>>220844087it's because of faggots like you that that we got a fucking soft reboots in TFA. just telling the same story again and again even if it doesn't make any sense
>>220844900>why can't it be rejuvenated.Because it's not digging up some dusty franchise from 5 decades ago and putting a modern spin on it with fresh vision.It's been more or less a constant thing for 50 years, and frankly a lot of us are getting sick of it.
>>220844900>why it is impossible to make good things in the current day and return them to their former glory?Because boomers are salty fucks who will sacrifice literally everyone's quality of life for the tiny chance that it will briefly make their stock value go up
star wars is a franchise with two good moviesfinally it can dieplease just let it die
>>220843695>Who murdered Star Wars?Corporations need consistent growth, and Disney's prerogative was milking Star Wars for every penny. Whether they can do that for another decade is an open question, but it looks unlikely at the moment.
>>220844933You voted for it
>>220844940A Thousand times this. And if God is merciful, let it carry Star Trek with it to the grave.
>>220844942>and Disney's prerogative was milking Star Wars for every penny.Yes, let us pretend that George was plastering every sequel with new toyetic nonsense for cultured, artistic reasons and not a gorillion toy $$$.
>>220844862bro, they should just remake the OT at this point to satisfy you retards since they can't make anything good. in fact they tried to do that in TFA and you all gulped down that unoriginal slop. I wonder why we got Palpatine returning in Ep 9? could it have been to please nostalgia fags like you?
For the life of me, I do not understand why they didn't stick with the original ideas they had. Rey being a Solo and Snoke being Plagueis. TLJ doesn't even directly cut against those.
>>220844964>Yes, let us pretend that George was plastering every sequel with new toyetic nonsense for cultured, artistic reasons and not a gorillion toy $$$.I don't disagree, George certainly milked Star Wars, but Disney took it to an entirely new level.
>>220844969>bro, they should just remake the OT at this pointNO. FUCKING NO.They should all move on and make something completely different to Star Wars. Stop pretending that the Light Saber was the greatest cinematic contrivance of the last 2 centuries, or that George could write worth a shit. LEAVE IT BE.
>>220844933this
>>220843695Me and the chuds
>>22084492550 years? not at all. 16 years passed from VI to I and 11 from III to VII. also, the modern spin is what people get upset over. remember nothing new is allowed and the real fault of the sequels is that it wasn't yet more nostalgia where we didn't get a reunion of Leia, Luke and Han, not that it was a boring unoriginal soft reboot
>>220845003Autism here but Tesla does not deserve to be anywhere associated with Einstein.
>>220843571S
>>220844992Disney is a Distribution and Merchandising giant, of course they expanded upon it, but it's the same soulless toy commercial crap that George was churning out after he fired all the annoying craftsmen.
>>220843850"Vibe writing" and its consequences needs to be properly studied once the people learn to let visionaries make their own projects again
>>220844995or they could make the sequels as George Lucas envisioned them and then start adapted cool EU stuff
>>220843571what the fucks a mongolian gugu
holy shit
>>220844985Because JJ had to be coaxed into returning after Rian shit the bed and Kathy fired Collin. JJ didn't want to come back and he certainly wasn't going to apply any actual effort. So, seeing how Rian had snarkily dismembered everything he did in TFA, JJ snarkily dismembered everything Rian did in TLJ (except for the stuff people actually cared about, like character-assassinating Luke and then killing him off from thinking too hard).>tldr; manchildren with too much money
>>220843695Kathleen Kennedy dug the hole, Rian Johnson threw the body in, and Filoni filled in the soil and buried it.
>>220845035Nothing. What's a mongolian gugu with you?
>>220843763Would have unironically been a better trilogy if they just made Finn the main character
>>220845033>or they could make the sequels as George Lucas envisionedGeorge is just a midwit who cribbed 100% of his ideas from other films, and jammed his movies with ham-handed stereotypes. He was never a good visionary writer or plotter, he just had a great feel for what people would eagerly turn their brains off and enjoy at the movies.
>>220845065>episode 8 ends with Rey killing Snoke and joining Kylo>episode 9 has Luke train Finn haphazardly and quickly while they're on the run from 2 overpowered jedi who are slaughtering everyoneCould have been kino
>>220845066>George is just a midwit who cribbed 100% of his ideas from other filmslol so what? that's what nostalgia fags want, just endless repetition. nothing new. EVER. they literally shat and cummed their pants at the idea of soft reboot TFA
>>220843571Zeb has failed us...
>>220843695jews
>>220845110>Glup...Forgive me...
>>220843725/thread
>>220845122You know the really tragic thing is I think they do it by accident. Like they wish they were better, but they're just deeply deeply cursed.
>>220843571Don't care. The chuds were owned.
>>220843571Thank you based Nikki
>>220845163>Rage-TwerksWhat is that?Is that some kind of down-syndrome thing?
>boomers run franchise into the ground>boomers: "why were these retards allowed to do this?"
>>220845122Reminder of the very first images we got as soon as disjews put their claws on the franchise.
>>220845196https://youtu.be/Hhz5GoR4NPc
>>220845315In the hindsight, not worth upsetting about. Finn was a minstrel show character, and no matter how much Boyega talked about it, Disney was afraid of any implications of him "laying pipe" to Rey
>>220845321Ah. Epilepsy. My bad.
>>220845226By boomers do you mean women and faggot liberals?
>>220843869they did everyone involved dirty
>>220845066Typical 4chan schizo.
>>220843809This looks like an HR department, not the people at the helm of one of the most cherished IPs in cinematic history
>>220843725Fucking based.
>>220845548Who understands Star Wars more than the ladies from your HR department? The answer: No one.
>>220845315
>>220844760Holy fucking shit.
>>220845315right because there were no niggers in the originals or prequelsoh wait!
>>220845635There weren't. There were blacks. The sequel trilogy is the first one to star a nigger.
>>220845679>>220845635Does either of you posses an N-word pass?
>>220845226kek, fucking boomers. enforced euthanasia when?
>>220843695Disney and that's even not objectively.The real question is would Star Wars be in better place as franchise if George Lucas didn't sold it Disney
>>220845408No, I mean geriatric retards who refuse to retire
>>220845039What a time to be alive.
>>220843695George Lucas.He made the prequelsHe sold it to DisneyHe made Kathleen his replacement.He holds all the blame.
>>220845635Yeah Obunga being a star of the movies was totally the same as some light negro Calrissian or some other second role jedi in the prequels.
>>220845110Filonisbros... I've thought Rebels was a worldwide phenomenon? That everyone knew Zeb? Why is no one watching Mandalorian? Is he really a glup shitto?
>>220845714>The real question is would Star Wars be in better place as franchise if George Lucas didn't sold it DisneyYeah. Lucas was done with Star Wars. We'd get comics and video games, but no movies or TV. We'd be in a world without Acolyte, Rey, Book of Boba Fett and other slop.
>>220845065Hell yeah. >>220845089Finn should have gone with Rey and Chewie to Ach-To. I find it baffling that he didn’t.
>I am not retiring until I get a win.M'am, here are our internal projections on how Mandalorian and Grogu will do, compared to our projections about indie horror flicks releasing in the same period>Announce my retirement immediately.I am convinced this is exactly how it went
>>220845714Star Wars was always going to devolve into generic low effort nostalgiaslop, no matter who was in charge. That's what the industry is now. That's what the world is now.
>>220845163>Look at me.>Look at my ass.>See how it bounces?>This is indicative of my boundless rage!Will future historians label this the Age of Madness?
>>220845196Yes.
>>220843850>disney killed star wars by buying it with no fucking planThe plan was pumping out New Star Wars content every year to keep the franchise relevant (basically MCU-fication of Star Wars)>they told george to fuck off with his plan, decanonized the eu so they wouldnt have to pay royaltiesLucas did sell off his namesake companies to Disney so, generally speaking, his involvement is no longer required. He’s retired.He sold Star Wars to Disney because Lucas wanted to retire and spend time with his family >then couldnt come up with a single fucking thing to make the movie about so they just decided to make a glib facsimile demake of episodeIt's Disney fault for hiring Jew Jew Abrams to direct next SW movies and for JJA being the hack that he is, he basically copied A New Hope one to one with some question sprinkles mystery on the top.Then Disney hired Rian and Rian wanted to do something subverting instead of following JJA but in the process execution was so Terrible, Disney had to handle SW back to Abrams and Filoni and this is how we ended with current Modern Filoni's SW which nobody really cares about.
>>220843571>>220843679It makes it so much worse. Its bad enough getting beat this bad by a little horror movie but per theater its over twice as muchDoes this include merch? I know at my theater the Mando merch sold well(I wanted to get a rubber sucky but they ran out) and Obsession has no merch
>>220845824The Age of Niggertry.
>>220843695Iger and Kennedy, 100%
>>220845064BOOM ROASTED
>>220845791But then we wouldn't have got him stumbling around like a comic relief minstrel show retard for the next two movies, anon.
>>220843695George Lucas with turning Darth Vader into a daddy. that’s woke as fuck.
lol some clown in a previous thread tried replying to me saying obsession is making a meaningful impact on the greatest box office year since 2019lol its only made 78m domestic. that is absolutely not a meaningful impactthe box office is dead
>>220846248>i got btfo in another thread and im still salty about ithow do I unsubscribe from your shitty blog?
>>220846270lol i didnt get btfo i was so bored i went to sleep and the said clown replied to me hours later and i found it 404'd this morning. you didnt have to reply to me just now and chose to. thats how pressed you actually are
>>220846248It going up two weekends in a row is literally unheard of, it's a big deal
KWABOTY
>>220846347last 3 years have done over 8.5 billies. its only at 3.4b right now with more than half the yearly releases already in theaters. so far this year its average 2m less per release
>>220843695Mike "Anti-Coon Platoon" Stoklasa
>>220843695Jews
>>220843695Iger, Kennedy, and Rian.Also jews.
>>220843571Zeb is box office poison. Should have brought back the fan-favorite Shitto instead.
>>220843571
>>220843571Let the past die, Disney. Kill it if you have to!
>>220845859i mean that lucas had an idea for episode 7 which disney didnt use, not that he should have been involved in the writing room
>>220846480Ahhhh. The penny drops!
>>220844942>milking Star Wars for every penny.This isn't remotely true. Had they mainly pandered to the original core fan base they would still have made shitloads. The fact they pandered to uninterested minorities whilst openly criticizing the original paying demographic (who largely objected to their ham fisted id pol pandering) tells you they weren't trying to milk EVERY penny. They nakedly risked killing their appeal to a proven and lucrative demographic, for "a new hope" in unproven and potentially unwilling demographics. This was no kneejerk or brief marketing experiment. It was a sustained and methodical approach for years, where it was very obvious they were killing the golden goose.This isn't just negligence. It's intentional destruction. Fuck them.
>>220846114Oh of course. What was I thinking?
>>220846799Kekked and chekked.
>>220843571>>220843695And it is all because of RedLetterMedia
>>220846974Based Anna. I’d buy her a drink.
>>220843695Mike “Case of the NOT GAYS” Stoklasa killed Star Wars
>>2208480355-star post, my man.
>>220844809Bro it's fucking Disneyland the whole thing is a monument to nostalgia.
>>220846974proof women can be funny
>>220843571good, we can finally stop talking about
Hello fellow Thread users. Who's everyone's favorite Top 20 girl bosses from the modern Star Wars universe?
>>220844900>if they made George Lucas' sequel trilogyUncs and boomers fixated on reliving their emotional state of mind while watching (parts of) the OT for the first time don't want that. Then you have feminists and other leftoids with clear ideological designs on these male-skewing brands who also don't want it. Both groups share a common enemy in the casual young male audience and both also have the "if i can't have it, noone can" mindset over all these toys for boys.
>>220848284If you don't like uncs and boomers then why are you so fixated on an unc/boomer IP? Go play your Pokemon game, kiddo.
>>220844826Hohohohoho.
>>220848307Because it's not an unc/boomer IP. And if you dont like it you can go take it up with George Lucas himself.
>>220843695>I like to make men uncomfortable.>I enjoy making men uncomfortable.>Recognize that I am working to bring something that makes you uncomfortable,>and it should make you uncomfortable.
Good this board will finally be useable.
>>220843695THE ICE AGE
>>220843571since the jews bought mickey, mickey's dead.what did you expect when they bought lucas?additional info: jews+white women pushed the DEI+tranny agenda.what were you expecting from this?
>>220849167>shortly after release to the worst opening box office yet: WHY ARE MEN NOT SHOWING UP TO BE MADE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE!? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM!!!!?
>>220849635>And that's a good thing!
>>220843695George Lucas and he did it out of greed and spice
>>220843763People in the theater screamed in terror.
>>220848385zoomer cope
>>220845065>>220843869God damn, 4chan has a shitskin nigger problem.
>>220843571...and that's a good thing.
>>220849888>>220849734
>>220843571As of today Mango and Grok are in third place behind 2nd place Obsession and 1st place new release Backrooms. Both are low budget offerings, and I think one was made by a YouTuber.Too bad it took the public 11 years to finally quit supporting people that hate them, namely (((Disney))).
>>220843695Pic related...and a Jew named Iger.
>>220843830>lower the ticket prices from 15$ to 5$LOWER the ticket prices?LOWER the prices?Why, 15 dollars for a ticket is a BARGAIN already! This is STAR WARS! Who wouldn't be willing to pay 17 dollars to see a STAR WARS movie!20 dollars is a VERY reasonable price to see Star Wars in a theater.Lower the prices!? You're being ridiculous goy...er, anon.
Who is supposed to be the target audience for nu-wars anyway? Why aren't they watching it?
>>220850018>>220849167>putting over-representation of identity politics above market research and product qualityIt's almost like they were actively trying to destroy the franchise
Hollywood needs to stop milking irrelevant old boomer IPs and start milking more millennial/zoomer IPs. Make some live action Pokemon movies or something. The Star Wars train left the station years ago and ain't coming back.
>>220850303The mythical modern audience, of course. They'll show up any day now
>>220850343Jokes aside, how have we STILL not fucking gotten It Follows 2? How has Smile only had 2 films?How did the Purge become a cultural beacon of halloween season and then disappear without trace?
>>220844854>>more than $10m profitTheaters earn about 50% of total ticket sales, so at $187,907,933 in worldwide sales, the ca$h (((Disney))) has made is approximately $93.5 million dollars. With production costs of $165 million, and marketing costs ranging anywhere from $80-$100 million, this means (((Disney))) is well behind earning even their production costs back, let alone marketing.I estimate this film will lose them at least $200 million from poor theatrical performance.
>>220843695Mike Stoklasa, Alexandre O. Philippe, and Trey Parker & Matt Stone killed Star Wars.
>>220843695People stopped showing after TLJ. Only Mando S1 got a buzz not even close to what it was before and after TFA.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-3rEsd6eWo
>>220844124>SW is always for nerds.*wasPeople used to dedicate their LIVES to this IP, that's how strong the brand was. Now? lmao
>>220849167>>220850884
>>220843695Gen Z? Its only fair if Millennials got blamed for everything then why not Gen Z once in awhile? I don't even think Star Wars is THAT bad if Gen Z loved it probably would be fine.
>>220850915
>>220850915>>220850995Oh neat, I'd love to pitch some ideas to disney.Oh...They meant original ideas from the same people who ran their franchises into the ground. Right. I guess this is why a fucking star wars film is currently losing to 2 low budget horror films made by zoomers. But not to worry, I'm sure Taika Waititi probably has some slop he'll gladly let disney fund if they want.
>>220850912Now those people dedicate their LIVES to being angry at this IP.Pathetic in either case.
>>220850915So, they're right back where they were in the late 90s when they failed to capture the boy market with Gargoyes, Hercules, Tarzan, and their sci-fi films from the 00s. Maybe if you made MARVEL and STAR WARS movies for boys, boys would watch them. The rule with kids is, girls are willing to watch boy IPs but a boy will never watch a girl IP. Fill your boy IP with girls and your IP will die. The He-Man IP died instantly in 1985 when they introduced She-Ra. It never recovered despite numerous efforts. Once that well is poisoned, boys won't drink.
>>220844924>it's because of faggots like you that that we got a fucking soft reboots in TFA. just telling the same story again and again even if it doesn't make any sensefucking retard lol, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Everything in the ST Is just a recreation of stuff in the OT under a different name. Jakku IS tatooine dumbass. Crait is Hoth with fucking SALT instead of snow
>>220850995
>>220851200The pitch will be completely different to the final product after 10 rounds of DEI script rewrites and focus groups. You can pitch a show about time traveling dragons and end up with the same girlboss slop that Disney has been mass producing for the past 15 years.
>>220843763Nah first movie still made good money. It's all on TLJ. And the retarded anti fan backlash Disney went with instead of admitting that it was a mistake.
>>220851148>The He-Man IP died instantly in 1985 when they introduced She-Ra. This isn't true at all.
>>220846480Oh nyo! How could his happen?
>>220850303>Who is supposed to be the target audience for nu-wars anyway?1. Women. Market research shows that women waste far more money than men do, so (((Hollywood))) figures that if they market traditionally male oriented genre to women (aka slap a girlboss in it), that they'll get the traditional male audience, PLUS women. Doesn't work. Never worked.2. Faggots, dikes, trannies. Same as above. Queers are the second most frivolous spenders. Add faggotry to everything, and the faggots will spend money on your bullshit.3. Minorities. (((They))) think that by tossing in random brown person, they'll attract more brown people. Doesn't work.They basically discounted the majority of a core audience base that like certain genre in hopes of attracting a few more dollars from fringe groups. Didn't work.
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>>220843695Bob Igger
>>220851328And yet it's 100 percent true. I was there. No boy wanted to touch He-Man once it became for girls.
>>220843695Disney's board of directors circa 2015 to 2023 and Kathleen Kennedy. Rian Johnson should get marginal blame but he was more a megaphone for whoever was in charge at Disney and Lucasfilm who were too cowardly to voice their opinions of Star Wars fans publicly so they let Rian do it for them.
It really blows your mind when you realize some few years old Chinese game IPs are now way bigger and 10x more profitable than Star Wars and Star Trek combined.
It turns out making multiple seasons of a television show, forcing people who wanted to follow the story to watch an entire season of a god awful tv show and then trying to turn a three-episode arc into a film was NOT the way
>>220850915>>220850995>>220851200The comedy here is that the "creatives" those dumb motherfuckers are turning to are the same middle aged women, faggots, brownoids, and beta males that fucked up everything with their identity politics in the first place.
>>220851440The hilarious part is they actually accidentally made something popular with S1 of Mando. Then proceeded to absolutely ruin it in next two seasons. And then turned a shitty recut of S4 into a movie.
>>220851440this was even debunked by the critics that hated it and gave the last jedi a five out of fiveyou don't need to watch the precious seasons of the show to follow the movie, because the whole premise of the character and it's purpose in the star wars universe is about telling self contained villain of the week spaghetti type western storiesback to avatarfagging on /pol/ stupid nigger
>>220851426All it requires is to steal from the best and to create attractive, compelling characters. This has never been a secret. Modern Hollywood refuses to change because it would be an admission of being wrong despite the fact that it's abundantly clear that women and browns are utterly fucking incompetent. Exceptions exist, but they don't need DEI to get recognition.
>>220851485They don't really have a choice they chased away everybody else from the industry years ago.
>>220843720>no blame for JJ Abrams You should watch his TED talk about the mystery box and what a fraud he is
>>220843695Mike Stoklasa
>>220851508Hollywood will never admit that they need sexy characters. Never. They will just keep spiraling lower and lower.
>>220851412there's that rian johnson isn't so bad when he killed all interests in the brand defense force faggot brigade
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>>220851538He's retarded but he's also a corp yes man. Movies sucked because of terrible scripts.
>>220851543LOL you prequel babies are still seething. PT sucked dick dude Disney trash being even worse does not make it better.
>>220851440Mando and baby yeed reuniting in another fucking terrible show will never not make me laugh.
>>220843694*passed Episode VVI deserves shit too desu
>>220851566JJ has writing credits on both TFA and RoS, and the way TFA sets up its mysteries closely matches the style of his other works.
>>220844826Don't forget how the sequel trilogies true budgets weren't actually revealed until years later due to being leaked in random tax documents since they were mostly filmed in the UK. Not sure if Mando & Grogu's true budget will ever be revealed since it was shot in USA.
>>220843672Killing star wars is an admirable thing in and of itself.
>>220851681Yes because KK was so retarded she actually let him have creative control. We know early drafts of TFA and they all sound way better than shit JJ made in the end. But movie made tons of money so they thought they are doing it right.
>>220843695The fans
>>220844900You probably COULD make a great Star Wars movie if the budget was very small (for Hollywood, so $20 million) and then it wouldn't have execs and shareholders micromanaging it. The problem is the budgets are always huge and so they have to play it safe and pander to general audiences with Burger King tie-ins, etc.
>>220851620TESB without ROTJ is just a movie without an ending.And they had no reason to not shoot the escape pod because they knew droids existed.
>>220845315The funny thing was the way they did it was almost like a jump-scare.
>>220843695IT'S ME AUSTIN! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
>>220844755Rian Johnson did not kill Star Wars. He merely raped its corpse. It was an act of defilement, not homicide, which was actually done by JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy
>>220852020better analogy was that he put it out of its misery by making everyone realize how shallow the ST was going to be
commie faggots never missing an opportunity to suck rian johnson's dick
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>>220849167>>220852121>I like to make men uncomfortable.>I enjoy making men uncomfortable.>Recognize that I am working to bring something that makes you uncomfortable,>and it should make you uncomfortable.
>>220843695>Who murdered Star Wars?Lots of people, but Kathleen Kennedy was instrumental in its utter destruction.
>>220851093It is genuinely more profitable to anger farm former fans than it is to make Onions Wars in earnest.
>>220850915>tell men you hate them>break their toys on purpose>assure them that the future is women faggot browns only>they stop giving you money>how do we win men back???You don't.
>>220852249>losing a trillion dollars is profitable
>>220852320I'm talking about YouTube talking heads gloating over Disney disemboweling itself.
>>220852098not praising rian the retard at all. by being such a colossal retard, he inadvertently killed the franchise which was better than seeing it limp along with room temperature IQ morons saying movies on the level of TFA are good
>>220852345TFA really is like an inversion of the prequels where instead of a bunch of haphazardly done and poorly executed but ultimately entertaining ideas exist everything surface level was competently done but there was just nothing under it at all. Like as soon as the movie starts you're confused, bored, and ready for it to be over.
>>220852341you're talking about both
>>220852392No, killing Star Wars has lost Disney money. It's made commentators money, though.
>>220852121>Bold lib Obaid-ChinoyI tot that was some Glup Shitto name at first
>>220852345they're the same thing, you pseuds can't help but unmask yourselves with your midwit opinions and apologia trying to excuse johnson's culpability, it's just never ending contrarianism with you faggots, if you hate johnson that must mean you like abrams, if you hate the sequels you must like the prequelsno, you fucking moronthey're all shit
>>220850915>>220850995Boys have all moved on to shonen anime. Disney's only hope is to start ripping that off but it's never going to happen. They have too much pride I suppose.
>>220843695Everyone who has ever touched it didLucas for not allowing someone to tard wrangle him when making the prequelsJewJew A. for making nostalgia wank garbage slopRian J. for making a really bad terrible movie Filoni for pushing his faggot crap OC and having no one to tard wrangle himFavreu for being a fat faggot Kathleen K.K. for full force woke retardedness
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>>220852459trying to lump filoni and favreu into and with the actual commie subversives, fuck off
>>220852438>midwit opinions and apologia trying to excuse johnson's culpabilitynigger calm down lol, you're having made up arguments in your head. i hate TLJ more than any of the sequels, but it was precisely because of it being so shit that it made everyone else realize that the disney trilogy had nowhere to go
>>220852459I'd tolerate more slopsoka if she wasn't being played by an ugly woman.
>>220846974Whatever kennedy left alive was finished off right here
>>220843695Lucas by selling it.Could've kept rights like lotr or dune so all bad shit happened only after his death.
>>220843695Rian Johnson dealt the killing blow. Kathleen Kennedy and her cronies raped the dying franchise and then continued raping its corpse, but Rian Johnson was the one who killed it.
>>220843571The fact that it's been out for like, 2 weeks and I haven't seen any camrips come out is the most telling thing about the film.
>>220851766More like “The Fans” aka bitter Gen X faggots like Mike Stoklasa, Alexandre O. Philippe, Simon Pegg, and Trey Parker & Matt Stone who brainwashed the public into hating the prequels.
>>220845755Just having a black person does not make it bad.
>>220849734star wars was raped to death and that's a good thing
>>220843571>“I was the one who really knew what Star Wars was … who actually knew this world, because there’s a lot to it. The Force, for example, nobody understood the Force,” he said. “When they started other ones after I sold the company, a lot of the ideas that were in [the original] sort of got lost. But that’s the way it is. You give it up, you give it up.”
>>220851200And I and many others will review bomb and shit post relentlessly about anything (((they))) put out. This is what Kathleen and Bob wanted and they will receive it, in abundance.
>>220853549I think george just wanted to suck on his dicknose and flick his tongue over the cleft
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