Homelander and the ending of The Boys has singlehandedly destroyed liberalism in modern cinemaThink about it, the main excuse liberals use whenever, for example, a black person kills someone, is that they had a bad upbringing, that they were abused by the system, that they had a hard lifeHomelander was all of those things, he was abused, he was mistreated, he was created to be a monsterYet, in The Boys, it's explicitly stated that the system is NOT at fault for him, and that's it's OKAY to hate HomelanderAnd, as liberalism is driven by mass-media, Hollywood is now effectively signaling that liberalism is deadWe are moving away from "The system is at fault, he's just a good boy" to "every man is at fault for his own actions"Thus... once again, liberalism slowly decays into FascismAnd it's all signaled in one shitty series finale
>>220883937conservativism is monarchism. liberalism is capitalism.All bad. Move onto socialism. Then socialism.
>>220883970And what after socialism? More socialism?
>>220883970If Socialism is so great, how come it has never worked?
>>220884023if socialism is so inherently self-destructive why does the US spend so much taxpayer money on making sure any country that tries it is destroyed? wouldn't it prove your point better if you just sit back and watch?
MUH LEFT VS MUH RIGHT
>>220884060Do you seriously believe Socialism has failed every time just because of US intervention?What about the failure of the Spanish socialists in 1936? Do you think USA did that, too?
>>220883937I mean I understand where you're coming from but it's not quite right.Understanding that certain trends are more likely to cause crime doesn't mean that criminals themselves aren't personally responsible either. Liberal democracies still punish criminals, sometimes very harshly. It's a mistake to confuse the discourse on reducing crime by tackling poverty with excusing crime altogether.
>mfw watching S3E8 right nowWhat the fuck is wrong with this show? They concoct this whole dipshit plan of evacuating Vought Tower because not everybody at Vought is necessarily evil or even fully aware of what the company is, Becca being the prime example...Then they have a musical montage of Kimiko fucking slaughtering a dozen security guards who may well be off-duty police officers earning supplemental pay, and the show makes no effort to justify this, implying that somehow random ass security are just as bad and are in cahoots with Homelander.>tl;drWhy is this show so fucking Jewish?On a semi-related note, does anything up to this point even matter? From what I've heard S4/5 retcon every development and character arc and basically soft reboot without having to lore dump again.
There's no inconsistency in saying that you can feel sorry for and understand the motivations of an evil person. The notion that a character must only be purely evil from birth and mustn't have any reasons for becoming the character they are is strawmanning, likely because the viewer dislikes the writer for some reason.
>>220883937The theme of the show is how trauma is passed down through generations but the show offers no solution besides killing them. The best we get is MM taking in Ryan but he only did that because Butcher told him to. We don't even get a heart to heart about how it's possible to rise above your upbringing and change.
>>220884099>Do you seriously believe Socialism has failed every time just because of US intervention?It certainly has a FUCKLOAD of times.
>>220884120No since the same liberals seek lesser punishment for said criminals and quote said social excuses for justifying itAlso they will tell you that using said criminal data so shape a world view that I'm away makes you prejudice like simple locking your door or crossing the street is not justifiable again by excusing their crimes with the same rhetoric
>>220884099>Do you seriously believe Socialism has failed every time just because of US intervention?I didn't say that anywhere in my post, I asked you a question and you dodged it for obvious reasons
>>220883937You're 100% correct except for one thing. He's white so he's evil. That's it. That's the only factor that goes into it for the typical leftist mind. It doesn't matter that he's the embodiment of everything they claim a "disadvantaged black youth" to be. He's white and that = evil. That's it. Haven't you wondered how and why leftists so easily adopted the position of Hitler, that all Jews should be genocided, seemingly overnight? It's simple, someone explained it to them like this "Palestinian = brown = good" "Jewish = white = bad". Jews aren't even white, but that's all they needed to start saying "You know, Hitler was right" while simultaneously accusing everyone they don't like of being Hitler. There's not a genuine bone in a leftist body. Not one wrinkle on the the smooth as glass surface of their brains.
>>220884060>>220884538If your system could be so easily overthrown and subverted by America, it's literal proof that it was a weak system.A strong system would give a nation enough resources and enough money to resist intervention. The fact that your pinko commie paradise was so easily overthrown is proof how weak it was. Cry about it bitch
>>220884070Yes. Grow a pair, fence sitting faggot
>>220883937>OP discovers that there's no actual belief or philosophy behind humanity, and it does come down to simple tribalismYou're either in, or you're out anon. Like The Spaceman said:>The deck is stacked. The rules are rigged. Welcome to the death of the Age of Reason. There is no right or wrong. Not anymore. There’s only being in, and then being out.
I could be sold on socialism, but socialists are all such vindictive, anti-White third worldists, that if my could ever elected a socialist government, it would likely introduce policies that would reduce my family to second class citisens before genociding us
>>220884861>my could*my country
>>220884174The moral is pretty fucked up in this show. It's just reduced to Kripke comically seething at 2 actors for having blue eyes (Homelander and Deep) so they deserve to be punished whole Sage and Stan get away and of course Kimiko killing those guards while she is dancing is fine tooAlso Karen was seen with the idf guy so she must have sucked a lot of cocks to get the Nuke plot for her having soldier boy there
>>220884669Are you implying that every capitalist country on earth could defeat the USA in a war?
>>220884120>>Liberal democracies still punish criminals,Not really. Just look at Portland, Seattle, San Francisco
>>220885225Someone pull up the tweet about leftist discourse, kek
it's a tone deaf show made by kikes and a writer room of women. stop thinking too deeply about it just because a few good actors made it entertaining to watch.
"liberalism is when you excuse crime by blacks and the more crime you excuse the liberaler it is"-Adam Smith probably
>>220884023You need to be more specific about what you mean by socialism.Communist command economies?Mixed market economies constructed by social democratic parties with the eventual goal of transitioning to socialism?Chinese mixed market economies?The hypothetical end goal posited by Marx?You are doing yourself a disservice by relying on infantile pragerUisms when you could construct a sturdier argument on your own.
>>220885849>I can't think for myself, someone tell me what to do!
>>220885849why the fuck do you need the screencap?just say>making discourse impossibledismissively
>>220883937It's genuinely just because he's a white guy.
>>220884726"growing a pair" seems to always involve worshiping the (((chosen))) politician without question.
>>220883937>I'll suck your dickisn't this one again them admitting openly that being a faggot is the lowest form of being?Homelander couldn't sink lower before he died but to be a pathetic shit eating dick sucking faggot.His Liberal writers/fates wrote this as his "apotheosis", his final character arc.
>>220886632It's this meme again.
>>220883937>Thus... once again, liberalism slowly decays into FascismCry some more
>>220883937>The most heinous disgusting thing you can be, even worse than a mass murderer, is gayUnironically what the fuck did they mean by this ?It's actually kind of bizarre, not even homophobes "care" that much, they just generally agree that the gay lifestyle is not to be lauded
>>220884174Those poor innocent boardmembers dindu nuffin, the blue collar grunt though, worse than Hitler
>>220886632Its amazing that chuds don't get the joke is that he ISN'T gayDoing something sexual for someone you are repulsed by is the ultimate form of humiliation regardless for your average /tv/ user it would probably be eating out the asshole of a large incredibly ugly indian woman. I'd say a tranny but lets be real that would make it better for most people here.
>>220886837Don't be such an incel.Denying sex to others, including undesirable gay sex, is considered illiberal & unethical as you are limiting other people's freedoms and identities.if you are forced to acknowledge that a troon is female visually, then the next step is to "fuck the troon" to consummate that illusion into reality.
>>220887031Did the voices in your head tell you people believe that?
>>220887055You mean the illogic of Liberal ideology?Yes, I was being consistent with that "god"/idea in my head.And ftr Liberalism = Wokismneeds to be said more
>>220887111Well keep fighting the good fight that scarecrow surly gives you hell.
>>220887153>>220887055>Did the voices in your head tell you people believe that?protip: this is called critical thinking; where you play devil's advocate in your own mind with "voices of reason".you should try it sometime.
>>220887247When you are making the voice of the "opposition" up in your own head its not a health form of thinking numb nuts.
>>220883937Why do Homelander fascists self-report like this?
>>220883937Liberals are too evil and stupid to have self awareness
>>220887345that's the trick about ideology dipshit: individuals follow it, I don't have to follow individuals.An individual liberal is a collective faggot.I hate thinking in faggotry but here we are and this is your world we live in.
>>220883937Mocking caesarism is good by default. Tyrants and usurpers should be mocked and killed.>>220886632>isn't this one again them admitting openly that being a faggot is the lowest form of being?How so? Only Homelander himself sees it in that way and so he offers what he considers lowest form of humilation to bargain for his life. And you can see Butcher's face expression "seriously nigga?".
Its because he's white and kripkike/his crew hate white people. Notice how A-Train and Sage did awful things, on par with Homelander, but they tried their absolute hardest to redeem them. A-Train gets a heroic death and Sage gets to go to fucking universal studios as a reward for creating white people concentration camps. If Homelander was a black guy, well first of all he wouldn't have been the villain, but also they'd give it their all writing him.
>>220883937You just misunderstood the meaning of liberalLiberal means infinite excuses if you're a braindead BIPOC and no excuses if you're a blond blue eyed white man.And some excuses if you're a white woman, and you're worshipped as a Goddess if you're a BIPOC woman.That's it, that's the whole philosophy. It's basically just BIPOC idolatry.
>>220887463>Only Homelander himself sees itIs this purely diegetic?Is the writer not speaking to the audience here and making a statement about how this character can debase himself to them?I mean we can pretend Kripke didn't say the things he said, but he definitely said the things he said.Death of the Author would be hard to circumnavigate here.
>>220883937@grok, summarize this.
>>220887728>Is the writer not speaking to the audience hereMight be. But not enough reasonable suspicion.>I mean we can pretend Kripke didn't say the things he said, but he definitely said the things he said.Okay and..? He depicts alt-rights as petty cowards, Homelander's behavor after losing his powers is within both: his character's arc and Kripke's views.
>>220888063Where does Homelander begin and Kripke end?Saying the quiet part out loud, I think Kripke thinks faggotry is actually the worst most humiliating debasing behavior. To be a faggot is a fate worse than death according to Kirpke; Liberalism is a shit test to see how much shit an individual can tolerate.(Now THIS is some author analysis that should be taught in school!)
>>220888185>Where does Homelander begin and Kripke end?When Homelander's characters stops supporting Kripke's openly proclaimed ideals.>I think Kripke thinks faggotry is actually the worst most humiliating debasing behavior.Okay, adjust your tinfoil hat.
>>220887508>It's basically just BIPOC idolatry.It's the Ideological Shit Test.It asks everyone, how much shit can you all tolerate? The person that tolerates the most is considered the "winner" I suppose...
>>220888250We're speaking past each other.
>>220883937You forgot that he isn't black. He's white.
>>220883937They just hate white aryan men.This is, quite, literally genocide.
>>220886837Sex with is real work, and there's no shame in it. Hell, there's just no shame anymore
>>220888063He was near defeat before and didn't debase himself.
>>220883937>Yet, in The Boys, it's explicitly stated that the system is NOT at fault for him, and that's it's OKAY to hate HomelanderWhat? The exact opposite is the case. Media illiteracy strikes again. Fucking hell, there’s an entire episode almost purely about the fact that he was raised as a lab rat and how it completely unhinged him.You just want everything to fit your retarded low IQ worldview, despite it being objectively wrong.
>>220884023>If Socialism is so great, how come it has never worked?Seems to be working great for all the rich fucks. They sure brainwashed you into “Socialism for me, but not for thee”. Yet all their losses are perpetually socialised, while they privatise their gains. And they have you campaigning for them, despite the fact that they would step on you.
>>220884640It's exactly this. His being white trumps everything else about character's tragic backstory. You could maybe get away with being right if Homelander was a woman, but white guy means the other rules don't apply.
>>220884060gee why would the capitalist United States want socialist countries, whose goal is global socialism and the end of capitalism, to fail?
