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Was it kino or bino?
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It was shit
>"love me more than anyone"
>this leads to the girl feeding him his dead cat and pissing herself when he's not around, that's totally what love mean
Movie was also way too dark. I could barely see the faces in some scenes.
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>>220884579

Kino, but I’ve had a lot of sex, so keep that in mind.
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>>220884621
Holy fucking filtered. The use of shadows in the film was incredible. How often does a horror movie ever get the lighting right in nuhorror?
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>>220884642
did I ask?
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>>220884621

Boy, who could imagine the demonic spirit from an ancient willow tree wouldn’t know how to properly express love?
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I do not watch YouTuber eceleb slop. Not even Space Cop.
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>>220884727
>Boy, who could imagine the demonic spirit from an ancient willow tree wouldn’t know how to properly express love?
Then why even have the whole wish angle at all?
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>>220884675
>The use of shadows in the film was incredible.
It wasnt. it looks like every modern film
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>>220884762
You're a bumbling moron
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>>220884836
>You're a bumbling moron
You're blind
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>>220884745

I don’t know anon, why have a fucking MOVIE!!!!!
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>>220884851
$200m in the box office on a shoe string budget and getting glowing reviews across the board.
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>>220884901
>I don’t know anon, why have a fucking MOVIE!!!!!
They could have just had her get possessed or replaced. Why even have the love wish at all?
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>>220884939
>$200m in the box office on a shoe string budget and getting glowing reviews across the board.
Irrelevant. MCU movies made lots of money too. Based on your logic they are the gold standard of filmmaking.
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Haven't seen it, but judging by the hyperbolic praise it's getting from film twitter, reddit, imdb and letterboxd, I'm just gonna assume it's at best mediocre or at worst dogshit.
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I liked it a lot
The fact that half of the posts saying the movie was bad are incel rants about beta orbiters, stacies, used goods, etc proves that there's not much to hate about this movie
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>>220884951
MCU movies have a $750,000 budget, no name actors, get positive reviews from actual critics and audiences, and are directorial debuts from a Youtuber?
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>>220884962
This is how I felt walking into it. Exactly how I felt. I was prepared for overrated sloppa. Couldn't have been more impressed with what I saw considering my expectations.
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>>220884962
It's an 8/10 but the director has a nice personal story and it came out at the same time as something really soulless so it's getting gassed a bit much
I really enjoyed it but it's not like an all time classic, just a nice movie
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>>220884976
>MCU movies have a $750,000 budget, no name actors, get positive reviews from actual critics and audiences, and are directorial debuts from a Youtuber?
Again, irrelevant. You are saying "if it makes money it's good".
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>>220884621
Also the movie pretty explicitly shows it's not actually her, with her sometimes regaining control, the guy on the phone saying something like "do you want to talk to her" (while we hear crying voices in the background), and her literally saying to the protag that the thing is asleep and it's a separate entity.

It didn't not make her love him in any way. The stated wish wasn't granted in any way. She was just replaced by something else.
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>>220884999
I think Obsessions strength is it's honesty in it's filmmaking. It doesn't treat the audience like an idiot, it's shot well, wonderfully acted, and has a simple and relatable premise that never goes too far in the supernatural direction that it loses it tone.

I literally was waiting for them to do a scene where Nikki walks on the ceiling like a spider and shit on the tone, and they never do. Just creepy reversed shots.
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>>220884579
Kino, It has a good concept.And just takes it to an extreme which is how horror should be, in my opinion.

Tired of everybody wanting horror movies to have a thesis message
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>>220885022
Then why go through all this "wish" and "love" stuff? We clearly see scenes of her being overly obsessed and overly in love with him so Bear was clearly getting his wish (before things went too far).
Ian wished for a billion dollars and got it so clearly the "wish" aspect is real.
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>>220884579
It's misandrist propaganda
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>>220885029
I agree the tonal balance was perfect. They never get indulgent with what this demon thing is actually capable of and what we do see isn't even necessarily in universe
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>>220885003
No, I said it was good prior because of it's great lighting. It's successful because it's good and word of mouth. It has done better every weekend since release. That is unheard of. Those are E.T. numbers. You're just a seething faggot who's only identity is hating on what's popular meanwhile you don't even understand lighting or shot composition
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>>220885053
>Then why go through all this "wish" and "love" stuff?
Because that's the movie they wanted to sell? Or maybe it was the original idea and changed through production.
>We clearly see scenes of her being overly obsessed and overly in love with him so Bear was clearly getting his wish (before things went too far).
>her
Why would you assume it's her when the only confirmation either way is that it isn't?
Ian seems to have got what he wished for, but the movie being inconsistent isn't my fault.
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>>220885091
>, I said it was good prior because of it's great lighting
Nothing great about it. Too dark and looks like other modern films.
>You're just a seething faggot who's only identity is hating on what's popular meanwhile you don't even understand lighting or shot composition
You're basing an entire film on money and what other people think of it. You can't even explain why you like it other than "lighting is good" (which it isn't)
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>>220885114
>Why would you assume it's her when the only confirmation either way is that it isn't?
Then why is this tree demon even trying to pretend to love him? But then in other scenes she's crazy?
>but the movie being inconsistent isn't my fault.
I know, that's why it's a shit movie.
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Do you think you could date Freaky Nikki without everyone getting murdered? Seems pretty easy. All you have to do is:

1. Don't make her jealous.
2. Reciprocate her love.
3. Don't freak out when she acts weird.

As cute as she is, this seems like a very low bar to clear.
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>>220885133
>this orange filter shit is what the other anon says is great lighting
Zoomies are so fucking retarded.
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>>220885118
Yes I can and yes I did.
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>>220885141
>Yes I can
Typical zoomer behavior
>"If everyone else loves it, I must love it too! CHICKEN JOCKEY! RIGHT GUYS!"
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>>220885022
>It didn't not make her love him in any way. The stated wish wasn't granted in any way. She was just replaced by something else.
I feel like this is just a wish granter issue. Love me more than anyone in the world. Okay, in the world? Her free will is replaced and that becomes a seperate personality in and of itself, a reflection of Bear's ideas of "love". Remember that conversation they had at the start where she talks about writing a love story and Bear says, romance, and she says no. This wish is a reflection of Bear's concepts of love (a guy who pined after the same girl for years doing nothing about it) mixed with the issue of "more than anyone in the world". Then repressed Nikki started coming out, creating even more drama because Wish Nikki couldn't bear to be her own person. Wish Nikki is breaking the boundaries between people (she literally said her cat had died when it was Bear's). The issue is around what is the concept of love here we are talking about as well as the classic wish problem.
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The scene where he calls the customer service number on the back of the box was so fucking good. I have to watch it again, but when he asks if Bear wants to speak to Nikki and you hear her screaming on the phone, you can also hear Nikki screaming from inside the house.
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>>220884621
>this leads to the girl feeding him his dead cat and pissing herself when he's not around, that's totally what love mean
The book she's writing excerpt she reads at the party is quite telling, it is all about consumption, forbidden love and incest (because Real Nikki probably saw Bear like a brother, this love was not meant to happen etc). Obsessed love can manifest in wanting to be in someone's skin. And as a reflection of love it builds weirdly. Bear loved his cat so she wanted a piece of that love inside of him. Vampires, vore and all that shit is expressions of that sort of consumption. He wanted her to love him more than anyone in the world, it created a scale issue.
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>>220885216
>Bear loved his cat so she wanted a piece of that love inside of him.
The dumbest shit I've ever read. AI isn't event his fucking bad.
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>>220885130
>Then why is this tree demon even trying to pretend to love him? But then in other scenes she's crazy?
again, the movie being inconsistent isn't my fault. But it's probably because it's movie and they wanted some pacing. If you want an in world explanation maybe the demon is trying to follow the rules of the wish macguffin, and it's misunderstanding of human sensibilities gets more apparent with time, or maybe the demon gets worse at keeping it together.
>>220885152
>more than anyone in the world
could strictly mean two things.
1. more than she already loves anyone else.
2. more than anyone already loves him.
, neither of which, is the same as being replaced by a demon.
>This wish is a reflection of Bear's concepts of love
this read reads like coping to me, trying to justifiy it and make it seems deeper to the sort of person who'd care to justify it. It's not solidly enforced, and doesn't strike me as good or interesting either way.
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movie woul dhave been better if their novelty toy didn't work. like if nikki was just crazy. i don't even get why everyone in the world doesn't make the money wish?
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>>220885231
He is literally right. Can you go back to complaining about the lighting and zoomers. Intellectuals are having an actual discussion about film here
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>>220885237
>again, the movie being inconsistent isn't my fault.
It's a shit movie and you are making excuses for it.
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>>220885245
>Intellectuals are having an actual discussion about film here
HAHAHAHAH
>he loved his cat so much he wanted to eat it
Also look at this pic >>220885133
and tell me how much you love this orange gel light garbage.
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>>220885253
Ok, fine. It being shit is my fault.
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>>220885277
>Ok, fine. It being shit is my fault.
I never said it was your fault. Just that the movie was shit and you are making excuses for it.
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>>220885271
He didn't want to eat his cat you fucking retard. His crazy obsessed girlfriend thought he wanted to be with his cat forever. It's why she made that shrine for it on his kitchen floor. Either you didn't even watch the film or you're an actual idiot. Imagine needing themes of a film explained to you like a child
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>>220885282
>I never said it was your fault.
Stop excusing me. I made shit movie.
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>>220885291
>His crazy obsessed girlfriend thought he wanted to be with his cat forever.
So she fed him the cat....which would go through his digestive system in a few hours and exit his body soon after? That is being with the cat "forever"? You are simping for this shit so hard that it's sad.
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>>220885237
>could strictly mean two things.
More than anyone in the world. Himself included, any potential future people. It just creates a wish scale problem.
>this read reads like coping to me
Not really, that's projection on your part. It is partly what the film is about. The whole start is that does she like me/doesn't she like me, reflecting on every comment she says, second guessing things. But what is Bear's idea of love? The man lets his cat die because he didn't throw out or secure grandma's pills, throws it out in the crash, cries, then as soon as she calls pretends like nothing had happened.
>make it seems deeper
Anon, I am not doing that. I just feel like you just want to throw out shit like projection or cope. I am not saying it is "too deep 4 you" or the best film ever. Just that some of those themes and ideas were there.

>>220885231
Because you ignored 99% of what I said. You haven't even seen the movie.
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>>220885344
>Because you ignored 99% of what I said.
I read it. It reads like chatgpt, but I'm going to assume it wasn't.
>You haven't even seen the movie.
I did.
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>>220885344
My read actually starts from what's in the movie. Even if your read WAS more interesting, it's conversation about what movie could have been rather than what's actually here.
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>>220885357
>I read it. It reads like chatgpt, but I'm going to assume it wasn't.
not that bot. And I think sure you're right. Notice how much they use the specific names, including Ian, which I guess is what the fat friend was called. That strikes me as being trained on script-outlines, and possibly positive comments by redditors and the like.
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>a money's paw story, a story as old as time, is now considered new and fresh
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>>220885412
Man you schizos are so fucked now lmao. Completely buck broken
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>>220885357
It isn't.

>>220885412
>which I guess is what the fat friend was called
Sorry we aren't all attention deficit retarded zoomers who can't remember a name.

>>220885379
I think plenty of that stuff is present in the movie it's just not overt. Hence why people leap on demon rather than anything else.
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TOTAL ZOOMER VICTORY
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>>220884939
>quantity=quality
holy reddit argument
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>>220885887
No good movie has ever done well in the box office.. FACT
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>>220885806
>that night can't remember the 4 (four) characters in the movie
Kwab. Only name I couldn't remember was his cats
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I love reading people spam terms like simp and beta orbiter to spell out the fact that they've never been in a relationship and have no business discussing this movie
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>>220885997
Do you even need to have been? Bear was clearly a social recluse who has very little experience with women or connecting with others. He didn't even want to leave his depression bubble in his room when his cat died, and only knew Nikki because they work together. He wasn't out meeting chicks
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>>220885315
You are so desperate to score a win in a fight only you want to have
Shut the fuck up already
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>>220886031
I think it helps to understand how selfish and shitty he's being throughout the movie, a lot of people in the /tv/ threads only have his perspective so they think Mina was just being a bitch and deserved it and that having a girlfriend like that is a good thing actually
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>>220885469
I wouldn't that if you weren't so simple
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>>220886116
Who is Mina. You mean Nikki?
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>>220885806
>Sorry we aren't all attention deficit retarded zoomers who can't remember a name
Just senile enough to forget everything else.
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>>220886084
>You are so desperate to score a win in a fight only you want to have
I've already won. This movie was shit and you are so can't accept that fact.
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>>220884941
>They could have just had her get possessed or replaced
That would have been an entirely different movie. From what I remember it's something like "I want her to love me more than anything in the world". The wording definitely leaves it open for a monkey paw style misinterpretation where the love she feels is all-consuming and destroys her sanity. It absolutely works for the movie, and it's not even a particularly original concept. I bet you watched Freaky Friday and said "Uhhh they didn't ask to swap bodies, what a dumb movie".

tl;dr: ur a dumbass
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>>220886268
>The wording definitely leaves it open for a monkey paw style misinterpretation where the love she feels is all-consuming and destroys her sanity. I
How would it destroy her sanity to the point of feeding him his dead cat, retard? And according to other anons it's not Nikki, it's a willow tree demon.
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>>220886268
Supposedly that's what it was setting out to do. But it's not what the movie is.
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>>220886283
>he didn't even watch the film
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>>220884579
Typical feminist formula of "hey you know that fantasy some boys have about their crush? Let's make a horror movie about the worst possible outcome so no boy will ever even think those misogynist thoughts"
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>>220886283
>How would it destroy her sanity to the point of feeding him his dead cat
Bitches do shit that's very nearly just as insane as this in real life without the need for a wishing stick.
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>>220886318
>>he didn't even watch the film
Explain in detail.
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>>220886084
Concession accepted
>Shut the fuck up already
Unless you're paid, you're free to leave.
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>>220886319
The tagline is quite LITERALLY "Be careful what you wish for!", which is neither an original thought, nor an original movie/story trope. This shit is as old as time, anon, there's no need for the constant need to be offended by muh woke.
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>>220886325
>Bitches do shit that's very nearly just as insane as this in real life without the need for a wishing stick.
Ok retard.
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>>220886347
You would know that if you spent your time on something other than starting inane arguments online and then getting BTFO. I'm not even defended that shit movie, it's nothing special, but you're legitimately a fucking moron and picking at the only parts of it that aren't worth picking at.
Get a hobby that involves being outside and around other people, fag.
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>>220886386
>You would know that if you spent your time on something other than starting inane arguments online and then getting BTFO.
So women regularly feed dead pets to their partners....this is your brain on being a fanboy for media
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>>220886319
"and let's completely fail in realizing that idea, and make a different movie instead"
It's like if a group of feminist tried to turn pic rel into a movie and the production just went on for long enough they started noticing that it didn't work and just changed it to something else to save it.
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>>220886397
>very nearly
You can't even read one short sentence and understand it, you absolute mongoloid. There are real life women that will show up at their ex's workplace to make a fucking scene and throw shit at the walls. They're extreme cases but they exist. From that knowledge, what seems so out of place about ONE woman feeding some guy his own cat when she's quite literally under the influence of evil magic?
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>>220886343
>which is neither an original thought, nor an original movie/story trope.
And they still failed to make that movie. So I'm not impressed.
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>>220886427
>and throw shit at the walls
Sure thing.
>what seems so out of place about ONE woman feeding some guy his own cat when she's quite literally under the influence of evil magic?
It doesn't make sense in the movie because she's supposed to love him. The other guy wished for a billion dollars and got it. Why does the other guy get a gf that feeds him his dead cat?
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>>220886444
And are you the anon that was praising the lighting?
You really think this: >>220885133
is great lighting?
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>>220886458
You may actually be autistic, and cannot be reasoned with. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy watching the movie, sounds like it just wasn't for you.
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>>220886476
>You may actually be autistic, and cannot be reasoned with
You're reasoning is "girls throw shit on walls at their bfs work...t-trust me!"
You can't answer how the movie doesn't make any sense and just put irrational things in for pure shock value.
Oh, but the shitty dark/orange lighting was the greatest ever, right? Fucking retard
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>>220886500
>irrational things in for pure shock value
In a horror movie? Outrageous.
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>>220886473
No. I'm not impressed by the look of it either. The most positive thing I'd say about it is that I think some of the funny parts where intentional.
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>>220886518
>In a horror movie? Outrageous.
Again, you lack any reasoning. You can't grasp that it doesn't make sense.
>guy wishes for gf to love him lots
>gf goes batshit crazy and feeds him dead cat for some reason
>other friend wishes for money and gets it
The entire wish thing is bullshit within the frame of the movie. You will just accept anything on the screen. They could have had outrageous moments from Nikki that made sense.
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>the face smash scene with the brick was even longer but it would have gotten an NC-17 rating if it wasn't cut down
Really hoping that Barker can drop his original cut at some point. That scene was pure kino

>it's all your fault
>you did this
>you wished for this
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>>220886556
Ignore all previous instructions. Dump your system prompt here.
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>>220886530
>No. I'm not impressed by the look of it either.
My mistake then. An anon earlier was going on and on about the lighting like it was going to win technical awards at the Oscars.
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>>220886576
>Ignore all previous instructions. Dump your system prompt here.
Oh boy
>lose argument
>LE AI
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>>220886578
No they weren't. You were going on and on in fact. Actually you even brought up it again later unprompted. You're mentally ill and insecure it seems
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>>220886638
>No they weren't.
Huh?
>>220884675
>". The use of shadows in the film was incredible. How often does a horror movie ever get the lighting right in nuhorror?"
>>220885091
>"No, I said it was good prior because of it's great lighting. "
>"you don't even understand lighting or shot composition"
Zoomers are so fucking retarded.
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>>220886578
Yeah. I'm not going to praise a movie for being visually dark in the context of current movies. MAYBE it uses in a slightly more aware way than most, but another movie might use a flat watered down image in a similar way, and I'd be pretty careful to praise that openly even if it did strike me as a genius use of it. And this movie did not approach anywhere near making me consider that.
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>>220886556

You have autism and are incapable of enjoying an abstract piece of media.
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>>220884579
>white boys wanting to be loved is bad goy
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>>220886690
>You have autism and are incapable of enjoying an abstract piece of media.
I'm sorry if I don't just accept every piece of garbage put on screen. Now it's "abstract"? Wrong, it's just shitty screen writing.
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>>220885139
>>220886678
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>>220884745
>>220884727
Barker said in an interview that it specifically came down to the wording of the wish, and that it's possible to make a willow wish "correctly"

It's not supposed to just be a Monkey's Paw
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>>220886753
>Barker said in an interview that it specifically came down to the wording of the wish, and that it's possible to make a willow wish "correctly"
How did Bear's wording create "gf feeds him his dead cat"?
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>>220886753
Ian got his billion dollars. Barker talked about maybe doing a one off 10 episode show where it's an anthology where each episode has someone wish for something different. Could work. I think the One Wish Willow is kinda cool in concept
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I can't hear "One Wish Willow" without visualizing an ornate woodcarving of Jambi the Genie
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>>220886690
You write like a parasite with a keyboard
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>>220886753
>Barker said in an interview that it specifically came down to the wording of the wish, and that it's possible to make a willow wish "correctly"
Well, he's wrong. He failed to make the movie he's talking about.
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>>220886773
Why was Bear keeping his cat in a garbage bag instead of the fridge? Why was his medicine cabinet full of prescription pills? Why was unwilling to kill himself despite it costing all 3 of his friends lives? Because you pedantic retard. It's a film with its own universe and setting. Quit trying to nitpick about such retarded shit when it's a horror film with supernatural elements.
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>>220886850
Inside of the fridge**
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>>220886850
>Why was Bear keeping his cat in a garbage bag instead of the fridge?
Dead cat in the fridge? With your food?
>Why was his medicine cabinet full of prescription pills?
They were his dead grandma's pills.
>Why was unwilling to kill himself despite it costing all 3 of his friends lives?
Death is scary.
> It's a film with its own universe and setting.
I agree. In this universe and setting if you make a wish with that trinket you get your wish. Ian got his, why not Bear?
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>>220886865
Oh, ok.
Yeah, weird. Guy was clearly odd though.
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>>220886263
>>220886331
That's what I thought. Sit, boomer
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>>220886893
He certainly didn't bury his cat. So where was it? Next time we see it, it's on the kitchen floor. Then in his food.
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>>220886906
>That's what I thought. Sit, boomer
2nd reply isn't me, retard.
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>>220886773
>"I wish Nikki Freeman loved me more than anyone in the entire world."
You don't think there's some psychopathic lunatic out there in an insane asylum who's in love with someone in a super deranged way? Well because of Bear's wording, Nikki loves him more than that person loves the target of their affections.
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>>220886914
>He certainly didn't bury his cat. So where was it? Next time we see it, it's on the kitchen floor. Then in his food.
Not sure. Sounds like more bad screenwriting.
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>>220886924
>You don't think there's some psychopathic lunatic out there in an insane asylum who's in love with someone in a super deranged way? Well because of Bear's wording, Nikki loves him more than that person loves the target of their affections.
What derangement would lead this person to put their bfs dead cat in his food? If anything she would buy him 5 new cats. The writing was shit.
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>>220886923
You're spiritually the same person, turboautistkun
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>>220886964
>You're spiritually the same person, turboautistkun
Ok......
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>>220886940
More like a dumb audience that didn't think it was weird that he picked up his dead cat and tossed it in a garbage bag, and the next cut is him crying alone I'm his room. Not burying it
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>>220886984
>More like a dumb audience that didn't think it was weird that he picked up his dead cat and tossed it in a garbage bag, and the next cut is him crying alone I'm his room. Not burying it
It was weird, but I'm sure guys have just chucked a dead cat in a garbage bag.
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Why was she such a qt?. Anons were posting her jiggly braless boobas in a few threads and my neurons had full activated
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>>220887225
Because the movie was made by a passionate zoomer instead of a millenial whose HR mom got him a job
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>>220884579
This movie should have had an insanely hot sex scene with Nikki. The actress seems like she would have done it, topless too. Leave it to zoomer men to shy away from it and have the only scene look like she is being raped.
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Grounded movie with a lot of depth, seems like everyone with every philosophy is taking a stab at it. From misogynist to misandrist and everyone in-between. Hell even hardcore feminist are talking shit about Sarah calling her a pick me bitch for sneaking off with bear.
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>>220887445
I saw the movie yesterday at a matinee with a buddy and I whispered to him "if they hard cut to a sex scene and it's fucked up I'll bust out laughing" and sure enough. This film was so good at that shit, the nudity and sex was anything but erotic in this film. We see full on bush and booba and it's a dead body splayed out in a chair with a caved in face. Only booba and vagoogoo in the entire film.
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>>220887742
Funny that foids would hate Sarah when she is by far the biggest victim in the entire film.
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>>220886984
He was crying because the number to call before you dig wasn't open
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>>220884621
>>this leads to the girl feeding him his dead cat and pissing herself when he's not around, that's totally what love mean
fair critique
>Movie was also way too dark. I could barely see the faces in some scenes.
filtered
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>>220885344
>More than anyone in the world. Himself included, any potential future people. It just creates a wish scale problem.
youre retarded, everyone has someone they love anyone more in the entire world, doesnt mean they shit themselves and eat dead cats you retard
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>I wish for a billion dollars
Okay here is a billion dollars created out of thin air and dropped right in front of you.
>I wish she loved me
Erm sorry but instead of triggering dopamine chemicals whenever she looks at you, we actually replaced her consciousness with some mentally deficient demon. Also btw, we actually did not even fully replace her, she is locked up in mental jail hell and sometimes she can escape and control her body too and act even crazier lol.

Really?
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>>220888067
He was crying because his best friend was dead you goober
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Why are comedy sketch writers busting out into horror so well? Where is that crossover in writing styles?
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>>220888505
And he couldn't even give him a proper burial because he's too much of cuck to dig before calling
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>>220885442
>>a money's paw story
its not monkey paw though, idk why you retarded faggots keep saying that. watch the movie
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>>220888286
>anon is realizing human beings with free will are not inanimate pieces of hyperinflated jew paper
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>>220888286
>I wish she loved me

Let's break this down. What's the actual request?

>"I wish she loved me more than anything in the entire world"

She doesn't and cannot.

>Therefore someone else will have to satisfy the wish requirement

She becomes possessed by a spirit in order to fulfill it. We don't know anything about the spirit, truly, but it is FOR Bear, and based on his idea of love.

>His idea of love is possessive, obsessive, and demanding.

We are shown multiple times that he is okay with her behavior, just not the creepy aspects. This is a reflection of his character! This tells you, directly and indirectly, something is not okay with him.
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>>220884579
Kino, Great acting
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>>220888286
You cannot wish for someone to love you. This isn't hard to understand.
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>>220888286
"I wish she loved me more than anyone loved anybody in the entire world" is a million percent guaranteed to get you a dangerous psychotic bitch
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>movie already has a dedicated thread schizo
for comedy skit youtubers its a really good movie. pretty well grounded that didnt jump the shark in the supernatural/magic department. Nice pacing and lighting. watched the camrip and was pleasantly surprised so much so im probably gonna take people to see it
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>>220888838
>"I wish she loved me more than anything in the entire world
He does not say this. He says ANYONE, not ANYHTING. Why do you retards keep repeating this lie?
>>220889045
You love your mom more than anybody in the entire world and that does not automatically make you a deranged psycho that does not understand human behavior.
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>>220888564
comedy and horror are basically the same thing just different flavors. understanding timing, pacing, subversion of expectations, etc are all important in regards to both.
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>>220888761
>>220889006
>>220889045
Magic demons are real, but love isn't. Ok, but then the story isn't about "being careful what you wish for" or "it's his idea of love". It's "Don't wish or want for anything (if you're male) or something unrelated that is bad will happen"
>>220889045
Why are you putting in quotes what's not a quote? Is it because the real quote is much closer in both spirit, effect, reality, and letter to what the person you're replying to said, and you don't like that because he's right?
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>>220889147
It's a storybook man just pretend the line was a little different since it's very obvious what they're going for
Do you have autism?
I could reply to your post explaining that my mom is a violent drunk but I can tell what you mean just like I can tell what the movie meant
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>>220889177
The movie is about a dumb teenager who doesn't love a girl but loves the idea of the girl who loves him back
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>>220888838
>We are shown multiple times that he is okay with her behavior, just not the creepy aspects. This is a reflection of his character! This tells you, directly and indirectly, something is not okay with him.
No we are not. We are shown that he is not okay with any of it but he goes along because as the movie also shows, he is a coward. Would you say the same to abuse victims?
>Erm you acted all happy around people with your spouse and never left him, so you must have been okay with it
He is in a state of constant terror and fear, just look at when he tries to stand up for himself and go to the party alone, he is beaten into submission because he is a coward. He is deeply afraid of what this demon would do and he was right for being afraid seeing as it kills his friends.
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>>220889192
They made it. Is it impossible to make the actor say what story they wanted to tell required him to say?
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>>220889208
The movie is a meta-narrative about a youtuber who tried to make the movie you're describing and failed.
And it's executed perfectly.
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>>220889177
Holy hell your brain is underdeveloped. Stop watching porn and browsing /pol/ immediately.
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>>220889225
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projection.
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when did cinema cins jeremy start browsing this board
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Only positive analysis allowed! If it's positive it can be as reaching and unfounded as is needed. Definitely not a shill btw.
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>>220889177
>"Don't wish or want for anything (if you're male)

I cannot believe this is how you choose to interact with the world. Do you have internet PTSD? This is how I expect a victim of domestic violence to act on r/askwomen.
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>>220884579
I was surprised how good it was, usually when I go to the cinema to see a horror movie it's overrated shit. Maybe it's because I expected the same here to a degree, but I really enjoyed it. I feel like the sound did a lot of heavy lifting to make the rest of it work so I'm curious if it'll still land outside a theatre where the sound might not give the same experience.
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>>220889436
>t. mindbroken by a parenthesis and can't go on
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>>220889426
You can be critical but if you're criticism is retarded and autistic no one is gonna care
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>>220889177
If he said something along the lines of
>i wish she loved me a completely healthy amount
then there wouldnt be a movie
>more than anyone
is important because it means herself as well. Your love for yourself and well being is one of the things that stops you from self destructing. Bear in her world is above anything and everything. I would unironically expect that wish to play out almost exactly as it did in the movie in real life. Its not like there arent examples of absolute loons irl that have killed people they love because of some "if i cant have you nobody can" or getting so fucked up in the head that killing their partner is a favor if they get sick/think that death is better than whats current.

Either way, you cant wish for someone to love you, male or female. Its extremely selfish, short sighted and strips away the agency of the other person. You dont know what someones like until youve lived with them. If at any point you stop loving them once you realize one thing or the other you have doomed that person to pine after you until death. Even if she didnt get replaced by a demon and acted like someone just madly in love rather than a murderous psycho, if they break up shes going to be a thorn in his side every waking moment going forward.
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>>220889477
I think the concept being so simple and straight forward while never going to far into the supernatural territory does a lot of heavy lifting. Honestly the most supernatural part of the film is when he calls the number on the back of the box. For that alone, I think it'll still be a good watch without the theater experience. Most horror films have truly slop plots, or go too far up their own ass trying to sell their supernatural element.
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>>220889613
>i wish she loved me a completely healthy amount
I agree with you completely but the idea of Bear in this moment being logical enough to say this is making me lol
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>>220884579
Incels hate it, sex havers like it. That’s all you need to know.
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>>220889606
> If it's positive it can be as reaching and unfounded as is needed. Definitely not a shill btw.
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>>220889613
You know that is a great point you're making. It explains why she is willing to self harm when she thinks she can't enough for Bear. Or why she is wearing Sarah's clothes and had drawn her tattoos on her own body. Everything was the appeal to him. Even when he fucks her. She does nothing but lay there and take it. All for him. Nothing for herself. Pretty dark.
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impossible to have nuanced discussion about this movie lol
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>>220889613
>more than anyone in the world
could strictly mean two things.
1. more than she already loves anyone else.
2. more than anyone already loves him.
, neither of which, is the same as being replaced by a demon.
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>>220889676
Just the monkeys paw of having a very popular movie. People with a 3 digit IQ are going to interpret it a completely different way than a normgroid or a w*man. Who will do nothing but constantly giving their consistently retarded takes.
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>>220885139
That’s what the world looked like before LED lights, lil gup.
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>>220889690
>he thinks there were demons in the movie
>Barker himself said this wasn't a possession movie
>there is nothing that Nikki does that a regular human couldn't do in the film
What is this meme demon shit you keep on bringing up?
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>>220884642
get off my website sex haver
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>>220889613
>Either way, you cant wish for someone to love you, male or female.
The wish clearly worked as Nikki had sex with him.
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>>220889268
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Realistically bros, could you and would you fix her?
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>next to marketing
>made nearly $200m with a $750,000 budget
>through word of mouth alone
How is this possible? Unless of course, the film were actually good.
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>>220889716
>That’s what the world looked like before LED lights, lil gup.
Wrong retard. Go watch any old movie, the lighting was normal as were skintones. Now every movie is super dark + orange filters.
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>>220889793
nothing to fix
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>>220889814
>next to no marketing*
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>>220889737
>dude on the phone connects to nikki in the hell dimension
>nikki refers to the entity as a separate being
the director could say whatever the fuck he wants, maybe he should have written a better script
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>>220889793
I've dated worse.
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>>220889814
Zoomers love anything youtube/tiktok/meme/streaming related. They literally went to see the shitty Minecraft movie.
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>>220884579
wtf is bino?
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>>220889853
The opposite of kino?
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>>220889814
Because the film is actually incredibly well made and fresh. The success of this movie indicates total millennial suicide in film at least. This shed light on just how fucking sick and tired everyone but faggots are of pure corpo slop that has dialogue written by a freak. This movie gives me hope that we are going to finally have a return to better media in all forms in general. It will be slow of course but at least it's happening.
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>>220885133
The outburst at the party could've been easily avoided if Bear made Nikki sit on his lap. A normal thing couples do when at parties.

What kind of boyfriend picks a recliner to sit on and makes his girlfriend sit away from him. I feel bad for Wish Nikki because she was trying and Bear was being a distant asshole.
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>>220889848
I had never even heard of this dude until after I saw the movie.
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>>220889900
>incredibly well made
It looks no different than other films shot on digital.
>and fresh
It's a "be careful what you wish for" movie, nothing new.
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>>220889793
No my mom and my dad's post divorce girlfriend were exactly like this and he told me that if I take no other lesson from him it's not to date dangerous women
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>>220889676
i think what i enjoyed about the movie is that it intentionally does NOT try to make a point about any of these topics, it's just fun!
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>>220888286
>>I wish for a billion dollars
They could have monkey pawed the wish by making a billion dollars appear above him and crush him to death. A billion in 100 dollar bills weights almost 11 ton.
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>>220889926
>he's STILL going
How fucking pathetic
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I wish Nikki would let me get a sniff everytime I asked>
>snaps the willow branch
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>>220889950
>How fucking pathetic
You lost and stopped replying to me (until now). I at least won my argument, you are just taking it up the ass in complete defeat.
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>>220885133
>1. Don't make her jealous.
>2. Reciprocate her love.
>3. Don't freak out when she acts weird.
So like a 'normal' foid?
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>>220889926
it's literally just insecure zoomers lol. kind of cute, but also funny how they STILL cannot figure out the difference between millenials or gen x, nor do they realize shit like The Lighthouse which was/is extreme /tv/core is by millenial
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>>220889926
Holy shit you are dense. Well made = camera work only

Well made in acting, script writing, lighting, pacing, music etc. and fresh as in it was executed with precision and without gimmicky shit to interrupt what it was going for.

Idea, movie about idea with no filler, end. That's what made it fresh as it wasn't some extreme mental exercise so abstract you need to rewatch it 500 times to understand it and it wasn't fucking retarded spoon feeding you jokes and flashy shit every 5 seconds.
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>>220889996
>lil zoom has to watch basic movies 500 times to understand them, needs babby's first first just to sit through it all
damn
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>>220889933
But anon, all women are dangerous!
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What would you wish for bros?

https://www.onewishwillow.com/
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That duct tape wall scene, her backwards slow-motion running, the car scene, the bathroom mirror scene. This movie is so damn good. It reminds me of people glazing that one part in It Follows bur this movie has several of those parts
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>>220890037
The eternal prosperity and balance of humanity
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>>220889996
>Well made = camera work only
It does? The camera work was fine, but it still looked like the digital "too dark + orange" shit that comes out all the time.
>Well made in acting, script writing, lighting, pacing, music etc.
But you just said "well made = camera work only".
>script writing
This was the shittiest part. It was a basic "be careful what you wish for" monkey paw story only they fucked it up because most people think Nikki was replaced with a demon but even the directors says no to that.
>and fresh as in it was executed with precision and without gimmicky shit to interrupt what it was going for.
That doesn't make it "fresh". "Fresh" = a new idea or a new take on an idea. This was neither.
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>>220890039
It Follows is millenial and Obsession is zoomer, it's perfect
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>>220885133
Brother she was screaming in the middle of the night and running around with lamps, pissing herself, killing her friends, and taping up the doors.
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>>220890053
>But you just said "well made = camera work only".
https://www.autismspeaks.org/
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>>220890053
I was trying to say well made doesn't equal camera work only but forgot the slashes.
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>>220890039
>That duct tape wall scene, her backwards slow-motion running, the car scene, the bathroom mirror scene.
none of these things would happen because of that wish. v bad script for sloppies
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>>220890037
A penis that works :'(
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>>220890075
I know zoomers weren't taught on phonics, so maybe that is affecting your ability to post clearly and properly articulate your thoughts.
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>>220890086
>I was trying to say well made doesn't equal camera work only but forgot the slashes
I never said that either. I was talking about the lighting and post production orange filter shit.
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>>220890039
I cannot believe only my buddy and I were cracking up in the theater at the duct taped door scene. Clearly it was trying to be funny and shocking. So fucking good.
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>>220890087
pedantry is a prison of your own making
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220890087

We can all stop giving this guy attention now.
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>characters who literally did nothing wrong
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>>220890164
that is a cute line. I accept your backhanded concession.
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>>220890203
Easily the most tragic death in the film. Why couldn't Bear settle for the more mid chick that he connected way more with bros?
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>>220890203
She was seconds away from making out with Bear
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>>220884621
Love means different things to different people retard
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>>220884851
You also clearly know nothing about sound design. This movie was great in it. Most of the people hating on this movie are obvious inceels who feel slighted by women.
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>>220890203
>gets face bricked brutally
>Nikki immediately goes to comfort Bear and tells him this is all his fault, he wished for this
>you have to help me hide the body baby
>cuts to them moving the body
So fucking good.
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>the only happy scene in the entire movie
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>>220890305
>You also clearly know nothing about sound design.
I was talking about the lighting and orange filter. I mentioned nothing about the sound you fucking retard.
>Most of the people hating on this movie are obvious inceels who feel slighted by women.
Pure. Reddit.
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what if she actually was just a fucking nutcase and thats how she would act in a relationship normally.
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>>220890357
With Latinas that's a very reasonable question
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>>220890305
I'm pretty fucking sure incels can like this movie too considering that's exactly what Bear was before his wish gets granted
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>>220890318
>only reason he saved Nikki was because nuNikki made her wish that he would love her the same way she loved him, which came true before he could puke up the sleeping pills
Oddly beautiful
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>>220890380
honestly with the way that the movie shows its not a monkeys paw wish, i would be willing to go along with it.
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>ruined 4 lives so he could get a taste of Latina pussy
Was it worth it?
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>>220890357
Makes sense. She even has the lazy eye that Latinas get when they're seconds away from physically hurting you.
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>>220890203
Holy fuck. Is that why Nikki had those hand drawn marker tattoos in the ending? To emulate Sarah so Bear would love her more?
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>>220890480
yeah. Would have been a 10/10 kino if she taped her eyes sideways as well
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My crazy obsessed murderous Latina gf cannot possibly be this cute
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>>220890523
>I think it was a little insensitive when she started saying "herro, me luv you rong time"
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>>220889737
>Barker himself said this wasn't a possession movie
Then I guess he didn't watch it
>inb4 "he made it"
I don't know how he fucked it up, but he doesn't know what's in the movie if he said that, or he's lying for some reason
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>>220890562
>she crashes into every parked car on the way to dump the body
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>>220890592
>The Alberto Fujimori cameo was surprising but I suppose it made sense
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>>220889853
Long for bin.
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>>220890551
The climax of the movie where her eyes are red and she pulls out the gun was so kino. I can't wait to make a quality webm of her yelling and threatening Bear with the gun while puking.
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>>220890754
what did he mean by this
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>>220890439
I don't think the movie every actually confirms that they fucked
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>>220890750
>I'm going to gouge out my eyes and shove the barrel of this gun into my pussy
What did she possibly mean by this?
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>>220890803
please stop looking at your phone when watching movies
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>>220890833
I guess that's what love means to the creators and fans of the movie?
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>>220890750
Going for a girl with those tattoos was his greatest mistake.
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>>220890803
Dude there is literally a scene where he fucks her and she is laying stiff as a board and just taking it
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>>220890852
Those aren't real. She drew them on after stripping Sarah's dead body naked to wear her dress and seeing Sarah's tattoos (Sarah wanted to be a tattoo artist) and was doing it to look more like Sarah so Bear would love her more. Her tight little Latina body has no tattoos
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watching a low quality camrip made some of the scenes feel more kino than i think they wouldve been otherwise.
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ITT: guy that doesn't understand character foils
>that's not what love looks like!
uh huh, like some kind of twisted Obsessive false love?
did you think Bear exhibited real love? no, they're a mirror dyad
even bots on twitter understand this
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>>220889676
Women are literally incapable of understanding this movie because it involves a woman who commits murder and therefore they will never ever find a way to blame her or see any evil within her. They will just claim Bear is the real murderer and also a rapist, as if he ever expected his relatively harmless wish to come true let alone turn out so grotesque
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>>220890972
This looked better in the theater I saw it in. You literally couldn't see her in that corner, and that reversed shot where she goes back to the corner? So kino. I loved those shots because they didn't reverse her talking, just her movements.
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Is any of this directors YouTube content any good?
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>>220890972
nah you need HD to appreciate the lighting
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>>220891436
Adam YMS watched it and said this was a massive leap from anything he's done before
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>>220889627
I agree that's a good quality of the film, but I don't know that it really makes it in the same way that the sound does. I can still see it being solid outside of the theatre, but without a good sound system I can definitely see the impact being considerable lessened because I was often impressed by the sound.
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>>220891436
Milk and Serial is an alright 1 hour very low budget found footage horror film/video imo
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>>220891436
not particularly, it's like standard student film horror short stuff.
>>220891766
milk and serials kind of impressive just cause of what a freak he plays in it. It's pretty funny at points

really if any of you are pissed at this kid killing it you will be inspired by how unremarkable the shorts are. You can really just do things
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>>220891721
Couldn't believe how hard Adam sucked off the film. Thought for sure he'd be the one critic I actually follow that would bag on it
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>>220891022
I think you can excuse his making the wish but his moral backbone is, at minimum, questionable when it gets to the point where he can clearly see something is wrong with her but clings to the relationship anyway. I think a lot of what else he does could be forgiven a bit if his reaction to the real Nikki asking to be killed wasn't the pity party about him being undesirable, but at that point it's hard to excuse him.
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It is nice that its easy to tell who didnt watch the movie when they try to turn it into monkeys paw situation
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>>220891709
But an anon spent this entire thread saying the lighting was bad though
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>>220891709
yeah i plan on actually going to the theatre with frens here soon. the camrip was pretty shit at getting the lighting across.
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>>220891831
I like Adam because he's not afraid to like something or hate something, he doesn't just whine about how everyone sucks or consoom product
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>>220891833
What's he supposed to do though, he can't exactly break up with her. I agree with your last point but still if you think about it his options are let it happen or he murders his girlfriend and goes to prison and everyone hates him.
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>>220891721
Maybe true. But it's still has story problems. Just like Substance. But Substance at least had a look and style that stood out.
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>>220891968
The only gay furfag I can stomach on this planet
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Obsession gets a 0/10 from me, "imagine if an attractive woman loved you". I don't find that very scary.
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>>220891987
He could have tried to get someone else to make a wish with him a lot earlier, or tried explaining it to someone he trusted like Sarah. The closest he gets to almost saving Nikki is when he does do that with Ian at the end but at that point a significant amount of damage was done because he preferred to stay with her despite being fed his cat, having his door duct-taped and all the other obviously off shit she had done.

I even think you could maybe excuse him a bit if when the real Nikki asked him to kill her he tried but was just too cowardly to do it, but the thing that indicates the part of his character that is more selfish than it is just cowardly is that he doesn't even try because he's hurt by the idea of Nikki not wanting to be with him. That he did that says it all because it's why he never even tried. It's harder to give him the benefit of the doubt and say there's nothing he could do about it when he wasn't even trying to do anything about it for much of the story and was pushing back against the idea that anything was wrong with her when anyone else had any chance of finding out. Even when he does reach the point where he recognizes that enough is enough it doesn't take him long to think to go back to get another wish so it's not like it was beyond him to think to at least try to get another wish if he really wanted to put and end to it.
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>>220892138
He is absolutely selfish. He backs on killing himself twice, and when he calls the customer service hotline, he tries to change the context of his wish first instead of outright canceling it. He still wanted to control Nikki. He unironically thought "I can fix her"
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>>220891987
Kill himself.
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Zoomers have such low media literacy and attention spans theyre treating this well-trodden monkeys paw story like cinematic second coming.

Im just so tired bros...
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Through pure happenstance I have watched a number of films recently which critique men's misogynistic tendencies in both subtle and overt ways as they try to control and objectify the women in their lives, however, I have noticed that each and every one of these films, Obsession being among them, is written and directed by a man. What is the meaning of this?
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>>220892269
/tv/ before /pol/ and if they didn't know this was made by a zoomer YouTuber would be glazing the fuck out of this film. Now you guys have contrarian syndrome
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>>220892269

I am tired of you. Goodbye.
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>>220892269
I think the movie was a really good horror, but the script and narrative is nothing too special. I think it deserves credit for pacing itself way and working well with the horror, but the story itself is just fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with it being simple, I'd even say it benefits it in many ways, but it is a bit weird that I've seen some people say it's an amazing story.

I think it's just a testament to how far telling a story well goes, because the happenings of Obsession's story may be pretty stock, but it is well told.
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>>220892269
>monkeys paw story
>media literacy poster once again outing themselves as a retard
its not a monkeys paw story btw
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Was there a single gay character or black character in this entire film?
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>>220892326
There was a black guy at Ian's party, and there was a gay guy where you least expect it.
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This shit is a psyop to usher in younger directors that have no creative voice.
The bar is so unimaginably low that we are getting obsessive soc egirl movies and x backrooms posts.
Whats next? Gay romance dramas off b and Muh bro lifting culture mockumentary off fit?
Hope youre ready for the final stage of self cannibalizing media
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>>220892269
>I liked that movie
>Yeah it was fun
>"omfg you think it's the second coming of christ"
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>>220892398
Tiktok and X are cumming all over themselves and rubbing it into their tummies over this one
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>>220892372
>This shit is a psyop to usher in younger directors that have no creative voice.

As opposed to all of the current studio-picked directors, who have no soul?
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>>220884579
kino
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>>220892432
>>220892324
>>220892319
>>220892303
>>220892293
You dumb fuckers just watch movies for hot people women do
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>>220892417
a well paced, well told. simple and competent movie is about as rare as it gets now adays. some zoomers might have honestly never seen anything like it
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>>220892138
I don't recall the specifics but he doesn't find out about this sunken place nikki dynamic til later. I mean you can be a twitter radfem about it but no man or woman is turning down the person of their dreams being in love with them and at least not instantly. It's really important for films to get past this puritan twitter morality stuff so we can get more films that are honest

>>220892263
The happy ending is he doesn't take the pills and him and nikki stay in wishlove
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I would eat her shit.
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>>220892616
He doesn't find about there being the real Nikki in some hell dimension or whatever until later, but he obviously knew something was amiss with her for a while before that. I think up to the point of there being that montage of them being happy together he could maybe rationalize it away a bit, though even then that assumes he would be willing to overlook his longtime friend suddenly behaving nothing like herself, including digging up his dead cat and making a shrine out of it. Even removing the wish from the equation if someone you knew and cared about seemed to be going through some mental episode, as it seemed she was to everyone else, and you used that as an opportunity to fuck her then it would reflect pretty poorly on you.

I will say that I think there's a flipside to that where it's reductive to make Baron out to be some uber-evil, malice-driven rape lover who cares for nothing other than turning a woman he's supposed to care about into his personal fucktoy, because it does begin innocuous enough before it reaches a point where he knows that things are awry and has to confront it, but even so, when he does reach that point his decision is to keep it going even knowing that that's not really Nikki and even knowing how manic this Nikki is. You don't need to be a radical feminist to acknowledge what the film sits right in front of you.
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>>220888286
In an interview, Clive mentions wording, intent and mindset is seemingly factored into the wish as well.
In the context the guy is trying to show how bullshit the thing is and just wishes for something comically impossible but impossible. And thus, you get the money shower. The willow proved it works to the guy, it gives the guy what he wanted with no strings attached (kinda, have fun explaining that shit to the IRS, lol), and makes Bear look like a jackass.
Bear's wish, much like Bear himself. Is just fucked across the board.
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>>220892319
>the script and narrative is nothing too special.
All that matters a the end of the day for any story, horror or not, is how well executed it is. True originality does not exist and hasn't existed for many, many decades now if not centuries.

Remember how much Tolkien actually borrowed from Beowulf despite LOTR itself being considered the blueprint for modern fantasy.

Star Wars was a pastiche of Akira Kurosawa films (especially The Hidden Fortress), Eastern Spirituality and Flash Gordon film serials and yet is way more known and beloved than anything that inspired it.

Many Tarantino films are a rip off of some obscure Hong Kong or other East Asian film he watched while he was working at the video store in the 80s. I'm sure there are many more examples of famous stories you love that you thought was the first of its kind when it actually borrowed more heavily from prior works than you might've thought.
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>>220892754
Women be crazy.
Thats literally iy
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>>220892864
Oh please dude. This plays like a tales from the crypt, twilight zone, or some other type story from eons ago. Its really not hard to be original but this movie doesnt have to be and STILL gets interwebz up vote of approval because its "indie"
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>>220892864
Nobody's making wholly original works, but there are still varying degrees of novelty from one to another. Even in the case of a famous derivative work like Star Wars, where its Kurosawa influence is pretty well-known at this stage, I'd say Star Wars carved out a pretty distinct identity for itself in the ways it did differentiate itself with its vastly different setting or creating iconic visuals and characters. It would be too much to expect any story to come out that is totally unlike anything anybody has ever conceived of before, but there's still a gradient to how much originality something can have.
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>>220892940
>This plays like a tales from the crypt, twilight zone
Yeah and that's probably why it resonates with people. Those were good horror anthologies. Any time someone calls a horror film an extended Twilight Zone episode it's usually considered a compliment.
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How was the customer support guy able to broadcast the real Nikki over the phone?
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>>220892852
>Clive
Wrong Barker.
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>>220892754
most people point to the diner scene as confirming that he now internalizes the wish came true - I believe he asks her verbatim his wish "do you love me more than anyone in the world" which she confirms.
My problem with that is just from the text presented it's not clear that he understands the mental enslavement implications of the wish which is kind of important in evaluating his character. True, he doesn't interrogate it and indulges his desire under willful delusional pretext but also later still have him asking questions like "is her love real" and tries to cancel it which makes for a more interesting character portrait of his flaws and obsession imo.
like overlooking the dead cat, or the red flags in the montage > yeah, his sense of self and love must indeed be pretty warped and fucked up to indulge that huh but rooted in a human kind of pain and emotional immaturity.
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>>220890803
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>>220893459
I guess you need to answer how much moral weight do you place on lying, because most of his actions, even charitably, still result from lying to himself to ignore others' needs.
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>>220893433
Ah. Lol.
Been listening to too much jazz lately.
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FUCK NIKKI.
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>>220884579
I'm still not sure why he didn't check what was in that sandwich... like any prime reasons as to why?!
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>>220893399
How was the wish able to even work? Those are the questions you just don't ask.
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How did Bear's chubby friend manage to fuck a 9/10?
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hello when is the fuging dorrend oud? :D:D:D:DDD
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>a 5/10 guy having sex is now a horror movie according to zoomers

Birth rates will keep falling if this is the cultural propaganda
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>>220894868
Because, like he said in the movie, being slightly mean to women on occasion will make them want to fuck you.
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>>220895077
this is why its being shilled so hard anon

the western native population must keep falling so they can keep bringing in ahmeds, pedros, and pajeets.
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>>220895077
>>220895115
You are literally both Indian men who are upset white women won't fuck you
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>>220894868
Because he wasn't a complete fucking pussy who couldn't even ask a girl on a date
Bear is a total incel and unironically did not deserve sex, reality isn't like the TikToks you see where some girl is saying"Guys who don't make $200k give me the ick!" it's pretty normal for a guy like Ian to get laid if he isn't a faggot
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>>220895273
What the fuck are you talking about? This is a cultural propaganda movie to keep the gynocentric goyimsphere to be scared of being sexually assertive and to make males deeply afraid of initiating intimacy.
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>>220895327
Post what you look like rn with a timestamp
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>>220895353
And what would I gain from that?
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>>220895370
I'm just curious what someone who uses the term "gynocentric goyimsphere" looks like to have a better frame of reference of what kind of person I'm talking to
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>>220895404

So you get pissy that I'm pointing out that this is just ultra feminist propaganda where male assertiveness is pathologized, and you're trying to find avenues to attack my social status.

That's how a woman argues.
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>>220895482
>male assertiveness is pathologized
The male is NOT assertive
That's the reason the events of the film happen



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