>Now I admire Cassius Clay, I do
Was Bruce Li really this little and twerpy? I mean, this was a fun/funny scene, but I refuse The Legend himself could be so easily overtaken by some random brute.
>>220885801he was traditionally ripped not the PED muscle shit you see today
>>220885801Queertintino worships that Jewish Rapist Roman Polanski and Polanski was afraid of Bruce Lee, that's the entire reason.
>>220885801Ask yourself if the Kung Fu craze was organic or Chinese propaganda, then ask yourself if you've every seen a small asian beat someone like Brock Lesnar.Bruce Lee worshippers are the dexfags of irl. He would have had his shit pushed in if he was in any real exhibition with an American fighter.
>>220885801Did you really not get it that Cliff was having a daydream? Fucking hell is everyone this stupid here?
>>220885863>bruce lee couldn't hit or kick hard because had a traditional stick bug physique>bruce lee was so dumb he'd fight way outside his weight class>bruce lee was a homosexual and a communistyou sound mad like you flunked out of YMCA karate class, fatass
>>220885863Brock tapped to frank muir in a minute btw
>>220885801Bruce Lee has been ruined by his retarded fans. He was a skilled fighter for his size, and had a very good martial arts and workout philosophy for the time, but people make him out to be some kind of unbeatable, magical fighter who could performs feats of strength that are literally impossible.
>>220885939I did not. What were the tells?
>>220885988Well it doesn't help that Bruce also perpetuated those same magical abilities, like the 1 inch punch.
>>220885801He held his own and Pitt plays a tough guy
>>220885992Bruce Lee was quoted as saying the exact opposite, that Ali was twice his size and would kill Bruce in a real fight. And since Tarantino expects you to already know about Sharon Tate and Helter Skelter going into the movie, he probably assumes you know what Bruce Lee was like off-camera and could pick out that Cliff's version of Lee isn't anything like real life.
>>220885345>And I'm not even a racist, that's what is so lethal about it.
Let me just say, America was the one which closed the Strait of Hormuz. Not IRAN. It wasn't Iran. They barely touched it.
>>220885345Cassius Clay has BBC, your little yellow dick will never be able to compete with that.
>>220885345NOOOOOOO
>>220885939If it was a dream how did Cliff actually get fired from the set?
>>220885345Prease a no a brad-ah pitt-uI succ-ee succ-ee your dick-u!
>>220885939
>>220885988>He was a skilled fighter for his sizeso he could take out a scrawny chihuahua?
>>220885345rip to a real one
A challenger appears.
>>220885968Frank Mir is another big fucking dude. Nta, but you are retarded
>>220885345his name is Muhammed Ali little yellow man
>>220886758Absolute UNIT
>>220886731>OG got one sentence>His son got a reddit memeSad
>>220885801>Look at my hand>Now look at Ali's>He'd kill meYeah he was that small, and he was also entirely reasonable in reality, that any man over 200lbs that could throw a punch would cream him now matter how good he was
>>220885968Frank Muir is like 6'4 220lbs isn't he, he's only comparatively "small" to Brock's shaved gorilla physique, he's still "athletic" big (and realistically he's going to gas less than Lesnar)
>>220887010Actually looking it up he seems to be even heavier, at 260 supposedly, but I doubt that's his fighting weight
>>220885801Bruce Lee was like 5'7" 125-135lbsJackie Chan mogs and made better movies.I love Bruce though but these are cold hard fax
>>220885968and then folded to ubereems kick
>>220885838Was Bruce Lee looking for him or something?
>>220885345any single grappler or wrestler would have folded bruce in two. and he knew it
>>220885988He didn't really fight competitively either.
Grok give me a 5 minute video of Bruce Lee beating demetrius jonson to death in front of his kids
>>220887229Kung Fu makes better movies though. A BJJ movie would just be gay pornography.
>>220887229They said that about Sean Strickland too.
>>220887229yeah sure pal and ronda rousey would beat Chun Lipsssshnot even on my worst day
>>220887252>Now I admire BJJ, I do.
>>220886271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvOEj00LB8I wish what were saying was true, I really do
>>220885801A Bjj blue belt would have finish this little Asien man
I just don't understand how so many people didn't "get it". This movie isn't reality. It's playing on what our idea of these larger than life figures is, while trying to convince us that Cliff and Rick, two fictitious creations, are above them. It doesn't fucking matter how "realistic" this scene was. It was meant as tongue in cheek power scaling for the later fight against the manson family.
>>220887279t. joe rogan
>>220887340>bjj guy sits on the ground>lifts his legs up and starts dragging his ass across the ground like a dog>Bruce Lee decapitates and explodes his head with a karate kick
>>220887507He should have kept the cool earringWhy doesn't he get a nose ring too
>>220886057Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter. He was basically a Chinese jigalow who would "train" the wives of the Hollywood elite while their husbands were gone. He was a glorified yoga guru.
>>220887528How will do that with a snapped ACL MCL with his foot pointing in the wrong direction?
>>220885939I was foot druk sorryanyway bruce lee would beat up brad pitt but they both lose to me on a sugar free monster
>>220887584That's two dudes who are rolling around on the ground with each other. BJJ doesn't work if you just stand up.
>>220887609>sits down>scoots towards youWhat now, bitch?
>>220887623>I'll just Three Stooges my way to victory!>*scoots around in a circle until the final bell rings*bjj has always been for queer spics
>>220887656and super straight alpha bros like joe rogan who are straight and love pussy
>>220886731>physically fit health icon>dies at 32
>>220887507>>220887690Rogan is so straight he once said he wishes he could be a girl so he could get absolutely railed by a huge monster dick.
>>220886731>JEET KUNE DOIt's such a funny name, but I cherish my own copy. I really do.
>>220887715He died from a severe allergic reaction to a prescription painkiller called equagesic(Aspirin/meprobamate)Stay away from pain meds.EMBRACE DA PEACEFUL HERB (unironically)
>>220887766>take doctor prescribed drug for headache >the drug causes cerebral edema (brain swelling)>safe and effective no refunds
>>220887827take this for headache (may cause head explosion)
>>220886731Oh fuck he wasn't even 33, I'm older than Bruce Lee now.
>>220886846My thoughts exactly
>>220887766>He died from a severe allergic reaction to a prescription painkilleryeah I'm thinking cliff booth would whoop his ass
>>220885992the scene ends with brad pitt staring into the distance, "reminiscing" about the time he totally kicked bruce lee's arrogant assalso the rest of the movie, and the title of the movie>>220887301he can say anything he's just there to sell his book
>>220887766>physically fit health icon>takes prescription-strength painkillers at 32
>>220885992media literacy course.NOW
>>220885345Why were so many people triggered by this scene? The whole movie is literally a fairy tale. People treated it like a documentary
>>220885801asian males are notoriously insecure, and put them in a White country like America and they're bound to lash out impotently (having to see White male asian female couples multiple times per day)
>>220887213Bruce didn't want to participate in Polanskis weird sex parties so he considered him a threat.He actually considered him a suspect in the murder.None of these Hollywood kikes suspected their drug dealer/pimp, they assumed it was some outside element. Which is the major dramatic irony of thr Mason Family killings.
>>220887766Triads poisoned him, we all know that
>>220889718>see White male asian female couples multiple times per dayThis literally wasn't a thing in the 1960s.
>>220885801He was the OG HAPA, dude.
>>220885345in retrospect that scene was kinda cringe given how the average asian men is capable of
>>220885345>a washed up 60 year old zogbot will beat up a 30 year old marital artist/actorpure jewish delusion, bruce is jerked off by his fans, he was just an actor, but fact is he did train martial arts for 15 yearsespecially since he focused on boxing and jiujitsu he would know grappling and how to punch
>>220886731>trust the science>dies from prescription "safe and effective" drugthe goyem never learn
>>220885801The scene is meant to convey that Bruce Lee is a badass but that Clint is more badass stillThat's so later it makes sense for him to dominate the Manson kids
>>220887717>#>Rogan is so straight he once said he wishes he could be a girl so he could get absolutely railed by a huge monster dick.Absolutely CWC-pilled. I wonder if he stares at his Sailor Moon posters to STAY STRAIGHT as well
>>220886351Underrated
>>220885801China has a whole legacy of fake martial arts masters. One time a real fighter named Xu Xiaodong tried to expose them all and the government hates him for it
>>220890824What about all those stories about karate being invented so poor farmer villagers could defend themselves against the rulers with only garden tools? All fake, then?
>>220890619He got killed by the king fu council for teaching niggers how to do kung fu though
>>220890965Retards who had to be told>troops need food>go through enemy gates when openThose people werent genius tacticians or competent fightersIt probably was like two kidd swinging wildly
>>220890965No, those fighting styles originally had a complete moveset including grappling techniques. Unfortunately, the monks were persecuted at various times and had to disguise their martial arts so it became watered down. Then think about the Cultural Revolution when all the olds were being abolished. All the Kung Fu dance fighters escaped to Hong Kong and made cool looking movies with their cool looking but ineffective styles that had been watered down over time.
>>220887912And Anne Frank.
>>220890640>That's so later it makes sense for him to dominate the Manson kids>The Manson Kids>A bunch of women and drug addicts.Yeah it was super badass when Brad Pitt murdered a defenseless woman with a flamethrower.I swear this is the most Jewish movie ever made.
>>220892371Druggie lives don't matter. He did her and everyone unfortunate enough to interact with her a favor.
>>220892371>defenseless woman
>>220886731Took me quite a while to notice Pitt in the back.
>>220885801He hadn’t even cleansed his body meridians, let alone began cultivating a golden core. Total fraud.
>>220885801He wasn't easily overtaken or shown as twerpy. Did you even watch the scene? Cliff only gets his first win by making Bruce re-do the same move he just used to put him on the ground, obviously giving Cliff the advantage.And when the fight is over? Bruce is shown as calm and having fun with zero injuries after being tossed into a fucking car.
>>220890965That idea is a little bit sus because a sharp stick (aka a spear) is superior to any unarmed martial art on the planet. They would be training to use the farm tools, not doing silly rabbit punch shit.However, let's say the government banned peasants from carrying weapons, then it would make sense to train unarmed martial arts, so that maybe you'd at least have a little bit more chance of protecting yourself if someone jumped you out on town. But they wouldn't have been defeating armed soldiers with le crane and snake styles.
>>220892735People were also a lot more cautious about injury in the past. Stuff we just spray neosporin on today killed plenty of people in 16th century China. seeing some dude do a wushu crane backflip donkey punch may have made the prospect of a fight more trouble than it’s worth
>>220885801>Bruce Li
>>220887369Do you really need Bruce Lee jobbing to some guy, so it looks believabke he beat up a bunch of murdeous hippies?
>>220887301>the stuntmen hated bruce>that's why gene lebell was brought on, to teach him respect>bruce was always hitting the stuntment, it's called tagging, when you hit them for real>he had nothing but disrespect for american stuntmenlmao quentin put him in his place
>>220893092He didn't job. He got the first knockdown, was completely uninjured in the fight, and never even got upset. Cliff ogot a hit in only after cajoling Bruce into repeating the exact same attack. But would Bruce Lee lose to a guy who is canonically Audie Murphy and Chuck Norris combined? Yeah, probably. I don't see the issue even if he was shown as a jobber, which he wasn't
>>220885345I like Lee because even though he hustled and got his nut while playing up the mystical martial arts thingy, he was actually honest about how much bullshit traditional martial arts were. His ideas about being able to fight effectively on foot, in a clinch, and on the ground helped spawn MMA, which is arguably the closest thing organized fighting can come to unarmed combat. Rip.
>>220893204This. People lose their minds thinking this scene was such an own and entirely lose track of just what the scene was: Lee got one knockdown, Cliff got the second. They go for the deciding best of three rounds when some dumb cunty broad barges in and breaks up their fun because the plot must keep moving. It's a funny scene. Everyone took it too seriously. We'll never know who would have won the 3rd round and that's the point.
>>220887756It's been years since I read it but iirc his whole point was>come up with your own fighting style, using technique that fits you and the way you want to fight, and that's YOUR jeet kune doThen all these retards jumped on the bandwagon and started jeet kune do "schools" where they all imitate everything bruce lee didMissing the entire point
>>220892672>female nurse gets in the middle>only contribution is grabbing the cop as he wrestles with the nog and retard>male nurse grabs the nog so cop can deal with retardI hate women so goddamn much
>>220886731Not reading all that shit, Brandon
>>220885345This scene made me lose all respect for Tarantino. It's not an "epic own" when you do it against someone who's dead who can't even get back at you, you're just a faggot coward
>>220892672at least he protected his izzat. he and his fellow izzat protecting bretheren can protect each other's izzat for 25-life.
>>220893356The amount narcissism you have to have to put down a fuckin essay on your tombstone when you're a martial artist that got killed by the ole spicy blank trick is ridiculous. Someone should've told him he only gets a 3-5-3 haiku MAX and nothing more.
>>220893501>there are anons with so many chips on their shoulders that they find lengthy epitaphs to be an indictment of taste and decencyYou're a bad person, anon. Deal with it.
>>220893501Anon, he was dead when that was written. Did you think he'd already picked out a tombstone at 28?
>>220885863>ask yourself if you've every seen a small asian beat someone like Brock Lesnaryes, there is a video of some asian dude fighting literally 10 guys at the same time and he beat them up, his defense was really good, everyone that attacked him was parried and stumbled after it
>>220886731>die at 32>son dies at 28certified kwab genes
>>220893545Did this take place in a chicken coop and ladder warehouse? I think I saw that same video, asian guy looked drunk ans keot making weird faces
>>220893374Where are you when leftshits are attacking John Wayne? Answer me, you spineless jellyfish.
>>220893535Brevity is the soul of wit, if I got killed in such a KWABbish fashion I'd make my headstone just have like "whoops" on it instead of something you need a certificate of media literacy to understand.
>>220893654it was on the street with a bunch of parked cars nearby, the guy wasn't drunk, he was very strict and compact in his movements
>>220885863>chinese propagandaYou are so insanely fucking stupid. Everyone who saw that shit thought it was the coolest fucking thing ever. No propaganda was needed-- it sold itself.
>>220893545>video of some asian dude fighting literally 10 guys at the same timeMaybe you should post it, you fucking liar.
>>220887549>jigalowThis is what you get when you combine a bungalow with a jigaboo.
>>220893690i'd make mine so fucking long that you couldn't read it unless you brought a magnifying glass. that way retards like you wouldn't crowd around it and would instead go stomp around the one that reads "OOPSIE, POOPSIE".
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>>220885345I didn't mind the scene until I heard Tarantino's stupid reasoning behind it. If you're playing a game of two falls letting allowing the other person get the first fall just so you can see an attack in order to counter it if they do it again is so fucking retarded. what if Bruce has just ran and and did a sweep on the next attack? what if he went for a front kick? what if he did literally anything other than the exact same attack a second time? tarantino going on his podcast tour only revealed just how fucking lucky he got with his career and how little intelligence it took.
>>220893809fuckin lolgoddamn nature is cruel
>>220893809Midge doesn't stand a chance
>>220894145>Midgeuh, that's a pixie
>>220889264It’s a fairy tale about Hollywood but it doesn’t mean the things depicted didn’t actually take place in the context of the movie
>>220894212I meant this midgeThe pixie will hunt down all the other midges and absorb their powerHeightlander
>>220893690>I'd make my headstoneYou wouldn't make shit retard, you'd be dead
>>220885801a normie with 1 year of MMA training could fold this Chinaman and buckbreak him
>>220886758Is he still talking like a nigger from roots or he's back to larping as japanese?
>>220885801Bruce Lee was first and foremost an actor. No one treats Jackie Chan as the greatest martial artist who would dominate in ufc. But somehow they think Bruce Lee had magical powers and skills no one else possessed.Like how can seriously hear those monkey sounds and not think "what a retard".
Bruce Lee was a fucking junkie. People idolize this little chink who was geeked out on cocaine and morphine.
Bruce makes a lot more sense when you consider that he's a HAPA from China with Elliot Roger syndrome, but he actually was cool enough to get a blonde haired blues eyed white girl.
>>220889173maybe but brad pit wouldnt on his best day
>>220889953>He actually considered him a suspect in the murder.roman polanski was murdered?
>>220890173That's Brandon Lee>>220890689>>220887507he looks more like a roidsy hairy leather gimp
>>220893204Lee would beat up Murphy and lose to Norris so probably
>>220893501His mom probably wrote that, genius.Anyway you're just mad because you're getting cremated with no monument.
>>220893185It's easy to spew shit when all the people involved are dead.
>>220893690>Brevity is the soul of witit's funny that shakespeare gave this line to a character who was constantly wrong and ended up dying due to his own bungling, yet people regurgitate it as sage wisdom
>>220893185Americans don't know how to make goof kung fu movies. Bruce was right to hit them. Anyone on a Hollywood movie set deserves to be tagged. Steven Seagal did the same thing kek.
>>220893501Yeah, I'm sure he fully planned his gravestone design while 28 years old you dumb cretin.
>>220889953>>220896624Actually interested but this text is totally ambiguoous>>He actually considered him a suspect in the murder.Who considered who a suspect in what murder wtf? Vague pronouns drive me up the wall.
>>220896766shit I done goofed.
>>220896673No, Brandon was a QuAPA
>>220886758>fatly walks around a corner
>>220896812It's complicatedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_HoHis mom is some sort of mix
>>220896854He uses a body double for most walking scenes now and the guy is like 30 years younger and 100lbs lighter than him. Seagal released like 10 movies in 2016 alone and they're all S-tier garbage.
>>220896869I see, interesting.
>>220885345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7n3OBmDiU8that scene is basically a remake of this scene
bruce lee's filmography is better than tarantino's filmography
>>220885345>NAO I DO ADMILE CASSIUS CRAY PREASE!
>>220893015Isn't that Bruce Le?
>>220890177>averagethis guy is so pretty that even *i* want to fuck him. no homo.
>>220897061lmao
>>220896949>Grace Ho was born Bai Rong in 1907 in Shanghai to mother Cheung King-sin (張瓊仙), a mixed-race Eurasian[2] woman who was a mistress of Ho Kam Tong [zh; zh-yue] (何甘棠), a prominent businessman who had 12 wives and reportedly more than 30 children>Ho Kom-tong was the younger, maternal half-brother of Hong Kong businessman and philanthropist Robert Hotung. Ho eventually adopted Grace>The ethnicity of Grace Ho's parents is somewhat uncertain. The most popular assertion is that Grace Ho's father was German and her mother was Chinese>It is also stated that Grace Ho's father was raised as the son of a Dutch Jew, Charles Maurice Bosman, and his Chinese concubine. However, according to Russo, there are doubts about whether Charles Bosman was the actual father of Ho Kom-tong.[6] Charles Russo has questioned this origin story entirely, suggesting that Grace Ho's father might have been Chinese or mixed-Chinese, and that her mother was EnglishIt's quite a rabbit hole
>>220897044>better than tarantino's filmographySo is Teresa Woo's
>>220897075https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_C5aFwhXF8nah this is Bruce Le, he's alot smaller, btw theres a pretty good bruceplotation documentary with interviews from both of them if anyone cares
i watched once upon in hollywood and thought it was meh
>>220897300There's not much of a story to it but I enjoyed Di Ciaprios shitty Nicholson impression played for comedic effect and I could watch Pitt cruise around all day not really doing much of anything as Cliff Booth
tarantino hated bruce lee and hitchcocksuch a contrarian
>>220885345This happened in real life by the way.No, I don't have the proof.
>>220897176I had no idea he was a quarter jewish, I never would have guessed
>>220897446>It is also stated that Grace Ho's father was raised as the son of a Dutch JewLearn to read, please.
>>220897515Haha whoops
>>220895817jackie chan did actual stunts that could have injured him or killed him
bruce lee actually starred in good filmschuck norris starred in nothing but shit but for some reason people idolize the guyhis movies are on the same level as steven seagal movies
>>220890640The entire movie was Tarantino's take of Super Heroes, that's why Pitt's character hold his own against a established super men, in fact the entire movie is about setting him up as this physically superior evil vanquisher while DiCaprio's character is his alter ego.
>>220897585>>220895817Jackie Chan is higher power than Bruce Lee. Either one would be successful in UFC. UFC is a low level low skill "sport" filled with retards who don't even have basic strength. Watching UFC fighters lift is hilarious they all quarter squat 2 plates and do goofy crossfit shit some broccoli head trainer has them do. Jiri is supposed to be some high level guy and he doesn't even hold his hands up so he gets knocked out constantly. UFC fighters are all bums. Retard sport.
>>220890965Those were Japanese, not Chinese
>>220893545That was a movie called IP man
>>220893809Midge aside, that's how you should shadow-box. Pivoting your weight, moving your head, full range of motion on punches, light on your feet etc. You can tell its a decent gym.
>>220897733nah I saw the webm in a fight thread on gif recently it's a tall asian guy battering an entire crowd of asian guys. looks like some SEA country.
>>220897771No halfway decent gym would risk losing their license allowing a shadow boxing match between two men of such disparate size. Anyone of them gets shadow KO'd and they'd be fucking done.
>>220897902>a shadow boxing matchI think you mean sparring. They're not sparring.>No halfway decent gym would risk losing their licensebro thinks third world fighting gyms are his office HR lady
>>220897246>Enter the Game of Death>Re-Enter the Dragon>The Clones of Bruce Lee>Enter Another DragonThese titles are ridiculously stupid LOL
>>220886731I remember a few years ago, I went to see both gravestones in person and it was kinda neat.>>220887200Based both enjoyer, Jackie Chan is a cool dude and funny too.
>>220896793He's saying that when Sharon Tate was murdered, Polanski first assumed it was the China goy.
>>220885345
>>220897968I said shadow boxing because that's what I meant. You can do that with a partner and play off each other. No clue about what you are saying, schizo.
>>220898427ty anon>>220898567k
>>220898567shadow boxing is an exercise in which a person throws punches at the air as though there is an opponent. It isn't done with a partner. But why would weight classes matter if it was? Gym license lost because two guys were swinging their fists in the air? Silence from you.
>>220898682I've seen every UFC fighter ever hard sparring with other fighters who aren't even close to the same weight class. I see Daniel Cormier a heavy weight rolling with featherweights and middle weights. I bet those gyms lost their liquor license!
>>220898567Thats not what shadow boxing is you retard.
>>220898709Sean Strickland beat up sneako and the gym was actually catapulted into the sun by the license board because of it. Anon is right. You shadow box in a gym the FBI is rolling up and shutting it down. We can't have that.
>>220885801No one wants to admit the truth about Bruce. He occupied a middle ground between the two most popular and extreme opinions. He was not the be all and end all, all powerful master of martial arts who could beat up any professional fighter. But he also wasn’t a helpless movie star, who learned some tricky kicks, but would be helpless in a fight. He was a very skilled martial artist, who would beat up most men in the street of any time, most hobbyists of his time, and be at a distinct disadvantage to most professional fighters of any time, at least the good ones. He’d probably rip through a few tin cans. Now this of course, needs to be assessed in mind with his physical size. He was 5’7-5’8, and weighed in at most at 145lbs in his prime. If you are 200lbs, and you’ve done some modern MMA training (including muay thai clinch work, takedowns and especially jujitsu or catch), and you think you could beat him up? Yes, you probably could. Training modalities have moved forward a lot since his time, inspired in large part by his philosophy towards training.But if you’re 200lbs and an untrained couch potato, and you think you could just overwhelm him with your size? He’d fuck you up. Which is why the scene shouldn’t seen as that unrealistic. Bruce did lose a sparring match with Gene Lebel, who was bigger, and a grappler. To his credit, he immediately began exploring grappling in response, seeing it as a hole in his gameplan, and even showcased some of it in Enter the Dragon.
>>220898882Ultimately though, the real reason we know he was good? Trained, successful fighters, both from point karate, but more importantly, from above the belt American kickboxing, wanted to train with him. He was a better trainer than he was a fighter by all accounts, and all the fighters be trained with thought he had potential as a lightweight. Most importantly, everyone agrees he was fast and explosive. And he really was. Just go watch his fight scenes. He was a cut above the other gong fu stunt men he worked with. Tl;dr: He was very good, but Ali, Tyson or either Joe Lewis (including the “white kickboxing asshole” who Bruce was on good terms with IRL, my only real complaint with the scene) would all have murdered him. And he openly admitted that.
>>220898925>>220898882if he trained MMA he would beat the brakes off dorks like mighty mouse
>>220898925>heavy weight champion boxer GOATs would beat up feather weightsWell yeah. The question is how he would do against MMA guys in his weight class. He was like 135-150lbs at biggest so he would be fighting at 125lbs. He would do well.
>>220899097he was closer to 95lbs, actors always lie about their weight.on celeberityweights, a site I spend 14 hours a day on, it says he was 94-94.5lbs, now let's say 95 and be generous, any man, trained or untrained who is a healthy solid weight of 110lbs+ could beat him up, and that's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
>>220899284>he was closer to 95lbsno
>>220899097My best analysis is this:If you transplanted him as he was, he would have solid success as a sprawl and brawl, without becoming a household name.If you let him grow up in ideal conditions, at the right time and place to have access to modern fighting sports, instead of doing his best to retrofit multiple bullshido styles? I think he would be considered the best in his weight class, and a solid contender for the GOAT.
>>220899349This. Bruce lee actually likely only weighed 73lbs. Your average gym rat could have bicep curled the little guy.He was shot in forced perspective, like they used for Lord of the Rings, to make him seem much bigger.
>>220885345If they were fighting under boxing rules, the boxer wins. If they're fighting under street rules or martial arts rules, Lee wins, (mainly because he has their feet).He may have short term speed with his hands, but he's be punching people with brick heads who are used to being punched. Meanwhile, all Tyson would need was one shock connecting to put Lee into a coma.
>>220897712Ahhhh, so it was Kung Fu, not karate?
>>220899567Kung Fu absolutely is bullshit.
>>220899753There’s some useful stuff hidden away in kung fu, but by and large, yes. Karate, on the other hand, taught properly is a solid striking style. You just need to abandon katas and bunkai. There’s a small amount of useful stuff in there, same as the stuff that can be scraped from kung fu, but you’d be better off developing a few of karate’s more unique and vicious kicks than you would be trying to make funakoshi’s 9 throws anywhere near as useful as just doing judo.Taekwondo is karate by the way. Any time anyone advocates for specifically taekwondo kicks, remember that it’s just korean karate with a tiny taekyeon influence, and karate already reabsorbed everything useful the koreans added.
>>220899357How and why? you have only seen him doing circus tricks. How do you know he had what it takes to fight? any profesional ballet dancer or average artistic gymnast should be able to do most of the stuff you have seen him doing.
I didn’t mind the scene itself, even as a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu fanatic who idolized Bruce Lee. What bothered me was how Tarantino acted after the movie came out, talking a lot of nonsense about Lee’s character as if he actually knew the man or the people close to him. Especially since he used LeBell as inspiration for Pitt’s character, and LeBell never had anything bad to say about Lee, in fact, they were great friends.I really don’t know what Tarantino had against Lee, especially since he had often used the iconography of Lee’s movies before. I can only imagine he took umbrage on behalf of Polanski, who hated Lee.
>>220899753You're confusing it with Wushu and Tai Chi.
>>220900101Tai chi is ironically one of the kung fu styles that has some application. Sped up, as standing grappling. Still not worth decoding when you could just wrestle or do judo. Wushu is athletic as shit, but that’s the only advantage. Unless you mean sanda. You basically can’t find it out of China, but it’s pretty good. Of course, it’s not really kung fu anymore. Just kickboxing with takedowns allowed and side and spinning kicks added for that traditional flair.
>>220900164Harnessing your chi to create vortexes of air you can manipulate and strike your opponent with seems like it would be great in a fight against ground humpers that pick up BJJ. It's a shame they banned cultivation and Wu Xu in UFC due to anti-chinese sentiment.
>>220899941Because he was an athletic outlier, who had the natural talent needed to move faster than most other highly trained people. He was as devoted to getting his martial arts as close to reality as possible, as he was to reaching absolute peak physical fitness. Plus glowing reports from men who were absolute killers who trained alongside him. The real problem would be convincing him to fight and not teach or act. He was smart enough that he understood the risk of injuries and that he would make more money acting.
>>220900233Dim mak is also banned. Of course true artists such as myself would be at a profound disadvantage to semi skilled barbarians once you remove our ability to precisely target energy meridian clusters on the opponent’s body.Look, I will gladly admit it. Standing toe to toe, and exchanging awful, open door, external technique, hard style blows with each other is something of a skill. At the very least, it’s an application of iron body. It’s been decades since I needed to work on my own iron body, ever since my Sifu (may he rest in peace) showed me how to instantly bypass any man’s iron body. There are only two ways a fight between me and Mike Tyson could go. Either I am allowed my full tool kit, in which case I could either kill him (which I wouldn’t want to do), or shut down his chi network (which I also wouldn’t want to do, I don’t trust he’d believe me that he needed to see an acupuncturist to restore himself fully afterwards). Or, we could just brawl with hard style techniques only. And yes, he’d bring me down. There’s no shame in admitting he mastered the more profitable skill set. He is much better tiger practitioner than I ever was, and that’s what the uninitiated want to see. It is what it is
>>220887584Anyone notice the pink haired transsexual observing the lay-and-pray combat?
>>220885345>I call him Muhammad Ali
>>220885801He was 5'6 and 135 lbsSo he was pretty small, but that doesnt mean that he couldn't fuck someone up really bad.
>>220899941He was intelligent, hard working, and physically gifted. So he's already better than any loser like tj dillashaw, cody garbrant or "mighty" mouse. UFC fighters are fat slobs who cut too much weight and gas out and ignore fundamental weaknesses. I already brought up how Jiri literally is considered some kind of amazing heavyweight badass but he keeps his hands at his waist and keeps getting chinned and knocked the fuck out like a retard. MMA fighters are extremely stupid and undisciplined.
>>220895817Jackie Chan was 5'9 and looked like this on his prime and was extremely athletic. If he were young again I bet he could've prioritized a UFC career if he had wanted but he didn't do that. Jackie was pretty fuckin jacked for a chinaman and not small for UFC. If he spent all day training for contact sports he could've easily gone toe to toe with people on the UFC now but that's not what Jackie Chan was about.
>>220900733Jiri just got knocked the fuck out by Ulberg on one leg because he keeps his hands at his waist even when the guy is throwing check hooks that almsot took his head off. Despite this Jiri blames his loss on his "samurai mercy" and refuses to keep his hands up to protect his chin. He will get knocked the fuck out again and his career is fucking over I hate Jiri so much he's a retard.
>>220900739>I bet he could've prioritized a UFC careerUFC is mandingo fights they get paid like $20,000 at the beginning. That's why the talent pool is so shallow and you have guys at the top level who don't even hold their hands up to avoid getting chinned. It's like bringing out the poor retards from the ghetto so they can batter each other for no money. Even the top stars in the sport are earning a fraction of what they should. No one even watches boxing and those guys make 10x-100x more money. Jackie Chan would never be a ufc retard and neither would Bruce Lee probably they had means to do better things. Just like NFL players would probably dominate in the UFC but they would rather make money.
>>220900791uh, Dana needs money to keep the company going, libtard.
>>220900684135lbs Merab manhandles and tosses 260lbs bodybuilders like larry wheels without breaking a sweat or breathing heavy.
>>220900807jej I love how dana presents himself as this based america first guy but he's basically a woke islamist tool who creates things like womens cage fighting and power slap and lets dagis cheat because Qatar pays him a lot.
>>220900541I read his autobiography and he brags about smoking weed in jail and listening to jazz
>>220897613also bruce lee had good life advice, whereas norris was a zionist cuck to the end.
>>220896624I didn't even know he was sick.
>>220901347based norris
>>220900838Dana is a coward who won't even let me compete in the UFC with my bowfu techniques.
>>220902300bullseye
Brad Pitt could've beat up Bruce Lee in real life and that's what makes the scene even better.
>>220903093no, he couldn't
>>220885939No, it was Tarantino writing his own preferred fantasy version of history like in all of his later work. He obviously hates Bruce Lee.
>>220892721it's a two-part setup. he gives Lee a false sense of security by letting him win easily in the first round
Tarantino casting Brad Pitt to beat up Bruce Lee had to be deliberate and calculated to trigger aznmasculinity faggots.They thought Brad Pitt was like the boogeyman because hes the hottest white guy in the world.Its so funnyIt makes me wonder then what event started all this, Tarantino had some sort of negative encounter with a ricecel actor a few if them are known to frequent azn masculinity
Rumor has it that it was Brandon Lee who loaded a real bullet in the prop gun that killed him. Apparently, his father's loss to Brad Pittu brought great shame upon the family.
>now I admire iron mike tysonuru, I rearry do
>>220903131he could beat me up though
>>220885345>jeet kune do
>>220887200So, who would win, Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan lookin for no trobbu?
>>220903986In an actual fight? Prime Jackie was bigger and heavier, also trained practical things (kickboxing and judo particularly), and was definitely way less afraid of injury, which is a factor. Jackie served as Bruce’s stunt double at least once.But Bruce was faster, and when he cross trained it wasn’t just to bring his choreography up to date. I think Bruce probably wins, because he cared more about self defence and combat sports. Bruce’s speed was unreal. Slightly undercranked Bruce looked faster than almost everyone else, even if they were slightly overcranked. Only Jet Li ever appeared to definitely faster, and he had the advantages of really being a little guy (maybe 5’5.5”) with short ranges of motion, with a performance wushu background.So yeah, I think Bruce wins, but not easily. Jackie himself has stated Bruce wins, but how much of that is him proper deference to his “older brother”, I have no idea.
>>220903461Prime Bruce Lee could beat up almost every poster ITT. There’s one guy who talks about his BJJ background, so maybe not him. But almost everyone else? Yes. At least 95% of the posters ITT, and probably more. And that’s with his small size.I’d be surprised if Prime Brad Pitt defeated even 50% of us. He’s nowhere near as athletic as he looks. He got the opposite appraisal that Viggo got by his fencing instructor on Troy. He was naturally struggling with it, despite being in good shape. Plus he’s very much that “pretty boy actor” archetype, and that’s important. I’m a little bigger than Pitt, and I have a decent amount of amateur training, mostly in kickboxing but a little judo recently and some karate when I was a kid. Confidently, I would fuck Prime Brad Pitt up. But Prime Bruce would fuck me up. It doesn’t matter that I would hit harder. He’d break my jaw with his lead leg before I could hit him or defend against him. I have put in a lot of work not to be slow at my size, and I’m not, even amongst smaller trained individuals. But it is downright intimidating how fast Bruce was. I’ve sparred with guys who went on to cross over into entry level professional fights. They’re faster than me but it’s not overwhelming. Bruce would overwhelm them. His lead leg side kick in particular was disgusting. He would hit me with it without me ever seeing it coming, and I’d wake up confused as to what happened. If you have watched him throw it on film, and you don’t realise he’d likely do the same to you, you haven’t sparred or fought enough to understand how it feels when these moves are coming at your face. Or maybe you really are a high level professional level stiker. In which case, sure, you probably could counter him. In that case, show us your highlight real.
>>220904487For me it will always be the chad murse, who comes in like a rocket, humiliating the rent a cop by ending the situation in about 2 seconds flat.
>>220904454>>220904613no one cares
>>220904613cool story bro, maybe try reddit next time.
>>220904688>>220904698Fair. I just think it’s interesting to think about.
Grok make Brad Pittu buck break Bruce Lee. Screaming and moaning in a Thick chinese accent
>>220901277Sounds like you don’t know what the jazz is all about! You see, you listen to the rap music. With the hippin’, and the hoppin’, and the bippin’, and the boppin’. And that gives you the brain damage.
>>220897681Damn anon who knocked you out in the octagon?
>>220885345>Now I admire Cassius Clay, I do
