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>>220888799funny how old people can stay awake watching this but young people cant
GOAT horror along with TCM and the Shining
>>220889433Its called an attention span. Amazing how fast you develop one when you're not checking your phone every 5 seconds
>>220888799needs more screeching birds
>>220889433>>220889488All the uncs are getting angry…
>>220889457Which part of it is scary exactly
>>220889457And Midsommar
>>220889528Possibly the GOAT jump scare. Also the mother reveal is an incredible moment if you hadn't figured it out yet, which I hadn't.
>>220889541What was your interpretation before the reveal?
>>220889563Exactly what the film was suggesting. That the mother was crazy and Norman had to do damage control because of her. I don't really overthink when watching.
>>220888799>>220889528>it's another zoomer questioning Psycho's status as a horror filmYou're focusing too much on the amount of "scares" the film has and ignoring everything else. The themes and the sense of tension and unease throughout after it shifts genres when Marion arrives at the Bates Motel is what makes it a horror film just as much as the individual slasher scenes. Maybe Psycho II might be more your speed as a more traditional modern slasher film. It's honestly pretty good.
>>220888799Psycho is leagues better than Vertigo
>>220890119>the sense of tension and uneaseSo… a thriller?What other possible definition of horror could there be apart from the amount of scares?
>IS THAT A SHOWER JUMPSCARE SCENE????? A JUMPSCARE IN MY KINOSURE FILIMS????
>>220890200psycho thriller qu'est-ce que c'est
>>220890200Horror films often use suspense as a source of fear though. Thriller films use suspense to keep their audience at the edge of their seats, but they don't use it to make the audience feel uncomfortable the same way horror would naturally. The reason why people can't agree on what the line between thriller and horror is, is because ignoramuses think "scares" just refers to jump scares, gore and graphic violence and slasher/monster chase scenes, when it's equally about tension and unease and themes and plot. Younger people today just want horror films to provide them instant gratification which was actually uncommon for the genre back before the 80s. Look at what Halloween does for example: every scene where Michael is staring at or stalking any of the girls are suspenseful scenes that are used to build tension and unease leading up to the kills, the "scares". Psycho does something similar with its suspense, but for a horror film made in 1960. You also need to consider the year of release and what audiences of that time considered acceptable and what they were used to. Zoomer horror fans today also think The Exorcist is just a boring drama that doesn't have enough scares like in their Conjurings and Insidiouses, but back in 1973 audiences were scared out of their wits. And the original theatrical cut is even slower than the 2000 director's cut.>>220890358It's a psychological horror film first and foremost, but it's technically correct to call it a horror thriller because it starts out as just a normal crime thriller just like From Dusk Till Dawn.
>>220890923The suspense and tension exists in horror to intensify the scares. There aren’t any scares in Psycho. You expect something terrible to happen to Marion. You expect the detective to get whacked. You expect something dodgy with the mother. Everything is expected.
>>220888799You might prefer the sequel from '83. It's pretty decent.
>>220891227>There aren’t any scares in Psycho.>Everything is expected.See, the difference between me and you is that I'm not just making shit up and using my own made up rules in order to win an argument online. Whether or not you expected Marion and the detective to get killed by Norman or not doesn't change the fact that those scenes are supposed to be scary. Whether or not you expect Marion's sister to find Norman's mother's corpse and for Norman's attempt to kill her to be thwarted by the boyfriend doesn't change that that scene is still meant to scare you. Whether or not you expect Norman's inner voice to imitate his mother's in the last scene after he gets caught doesn't change the fact that it's still supposed to be scary. You expect the girls to eventually get killed in Halloween too, and when they do it's scary when it happens. You're attempting to argue that something can only be scary if it subverts your expectations, when has that ever been the case for horror? You aren't nearly as smart as you think you are.
>>220890923>Horror films often use suspense as a source of fear though.I rarely ever see anons here talk about horror films utilizing suspense they all think it's something only thrillers do. It actually explains a lot.
>>220891553This isn’t a science where we have precise categories and variables that can be measured. I’m telling you my thoughts, which you’ve not even fully grasped, not rules which we can apply universally. I don’t think it counts as horror because everything is choreographed and known ahead of it happening. The scares is not the end goal. And I think the scares are ultimately the end goal of horror.
>>220888799I live in a house, i'm a total PYSHOHAAAAAAAA!!!
>>220891790That's not what you're doing. What you're doing now is attempting to twist facts so you can win an internet argument. There are scares in Psycho just like there are scares in Halloween. You can expect a jump scare to the point that it doesn't affect you, doesn't change that it was, in fact, still a jump scare. If you want to argue Psycho isn't a horror film because you expect the scares to happen, then you need to do the same for every single slasher film and every other horror film out there where the scares are telegraphed which we both know you can't do.
>>220892063If you expect the jump scare then it isn’t horror because it isn’t scary
>>220889511Stop projecting. (You) are absolutely FUMING right now.
>>220892157Show me anywhere that says something can only be scary if it's unexpected. This is not a rule because it's something you just made up.
>>220892195Is there some independent rulebook with precise demarcations you are consulting?
Peeping Tom mogs Psycho and it's not even close.
>>220892232That's what I thought.
>>220892256Thought what?
>>220892195I expect her every time and I still get scared.
>>220892278That you're a pseud who is just making shit up. Remember this /tv/, this is the type of idiot who is telling you what is and isn't horror.
>>220892327What exactly am I making up?
>>220888799Well I guess that you are retarded or did not watch the film . The unexpected "twist" of the movie was that is starts out like a crime drama Janet Leigh is embezzling money from a company and she flees and then gets killed in the first quarter of the movie so it is completely unexpected.Many films were formulaic, Leading Man , Leading women. Studio gets their moneys worth out of them through out the movie. Not , you are just getting the gist of the crime and ( first ) plot and then Sceaming shower scene... Also mentally ill trannys were not so prevalent back in the day ( bring back the asbestos an smoking please ) so Norman Bates was completely foreign too them
>>220892521I wonder how many people were actually shocked by her death scene. I bet word of that spread like wildfire.
>>220892521>>220892937Like today the movie is actually marketed with your image, so you know that bitch is dead (and probably how it happens) before you even see it.
