No, I'm not an incel

>>220892229
Well, that's just code for being a beta cuck then dude congratulations. Friendly reminder that even chads have incel views

>>220892176
No they don’t. Silence of the Lambs right off the top of my head

>>220892325
Take meds, touch grass.

>>220892176
Men in feminist movies are either chads who will not commit to some rostie, or chud psychos. Average males who will never cheat\abuse are too boring for women to notice.

>the chad friend was fucking the girl for 2 years
Just dont be a beta simp

>>220892481
You are projecting your own retarded caste system everywhere you go and will complain about Indians. You are hardwired to be a fucking peon and will die with a nine in your mouth.

>>220892575
What are you talking about? Women love to put men into boxes (castes), don't forget about friendzone thing.

>>220892750
Maybe they just like boxing (you) up because you take it

>>220892853
So he's right then? Notice you can never disprove these ideas

>>220892853
Women would literally take abuse from some men, but will hate others even looking at them. They are the creators of their own hell.

anyone else felt deeply disturbed by this? i feel that ducktaped door scene is my mkultra activation code

>>220892176
>feminist movies or themes

I try to avoid those movies but have noticed in "modern writing" that has women in volved in the production , that the men are completely unrealistic and situations are unrealistic .

The most jarring is the The "Bad Man" sexist prolly rapist Dude Bro in his 35 or 40 's --
a guy that does not exist except in the feminst's fetish. he's at job or in public who is getting away with the most outrageous things that in the real world , would get him punched, arrested and fired from his job .. But naaa he is getting fist bumps and just shrugs from authorities in HR and police..

And the "good men" are completely cardboard, no depth, no motivation, minimum back story. If anything happens it is like they never had any experience in anything out side of that morning.

>>220892176

this poster is so stupid, that wasnt even the orientation , he was facing towards the right of the screen but she was standing opposite on the passenger side of the car. so his car should be flipped and we should see her thru the passenger window

>>220892176
No. No I haven’t.

>The women are as altruistic and virtuous as possible.
>sara was a bitch
>nikki was a MASSIVE bitch who was both leading him on and telling him to be brave WHILE fucking his best friend behind his back
Of course, what happened to her was underserved, but nikki was a terrible person.

The irony is if Nikki made the wish and Bear became obsessed with her instead then it would still be seen as a feminist movie to these pudding-brained gender marxists.

>>220893364
Nikki was kind of a bitch but Sarah barely did anything wrong at all. The worst thing about her was just that she kept trying to go for Baron when he was already in a relationship, which isn't good but it's not that horrible in the grand scheme of things.

>>220892176
I’m a dude and I’ve known plenty of other guys who would make the same wish the same way Bear did. I’m sure women would too, they’re fucking nutso when it comes to all that spiritualism nonsense to help get the guy they like.

>>220892750
>castes
SAAAR!!!!! DO NOT REDEEM BLOODY BITCH BASTERD!!! I AM BRAHMIN CASTE!!!

>>220892176
I think social media portraying this movie as some sort of feminist shit is so retarded. The whole point of the movie is that you shouldn't try to force people into some idealized version of them that you have in your head. Imagine if the roles were reversed and nikki was the femcel who did that to chad bear... no woman would be thinking its about a woman taking a males autonomy.

The women thinking this is about rape or some shit are so fucking retarded. Do women typically go batshit crazy in love with their rapist irl? No.

Of course, the protagonist is some insecure, unconfident loser and is not someone you should try to be, but as another anon said, she was totally playing with his emotions in the beginning as well.

When bitches bring up the fact bear wouldn't kill her and said some shit like "whats so bad about dating me," cmon bro. What is a man supposed to do when some fucking toy grants you a wish and it back fires? No one believed him regarding that the wish worked, and if he did kill her, how the hell is he supposed to get away with it? He was in shock and was already insecure, what the hell do you expect?

Women today are genuinely so retarded. Again, if the genders were reversed and nikki said some shit about "whats so bad about dating me," women would somehow portray bear as the bad guy, even though he would have been under the wish.

>>220893731
>What is a man supposed to do when some fucking toy grants you a wish and it back fires?
In that instance the 'what should he do' is pretty obvious - he should kill her. Even before that, he knew he could kill himself, and he could have at least tried what he ended up doing in getting someone else to make a wish to undo it a lot earlier, but he didn't because he wanted to keep her that way.

Making the wish in itself and having it backfire is completely innocent, and I'd even say it's understandable for him to embrace the relationship for a while. It is a little questionable for him to go along with it when he obviously notices Nikki isn't well, but it's understandable that he would rationalize away the wish and it's hard to say no when the thing you've always wanted is handed to you on a silver platter. Regardless of anything early in the film though, that his response to Nikki wanting to die is to leave her in suffering and make it all about him, not even trying to explore how he might be able to save her, does reflect very poorly on him and makes him a bad guy. You can make the excuse for him that he wouldn't be able to get away with killing her, but if that were his own motivation for doing so then he would have at least explored the possibility when he had the chance instead of just shutting it down right away.

>she wasn’t stringing him along and didn’t know he liked her so her fucking his best friend behind his back was ok

She literally says I know you like me. She knew.

>>220893290
>The most jarring is the The "Bad Man" sexist prolly rapist Dude Bro in his 35 or 40 's --
>a guy that does not exist except in the feminst's fetish. he's at job or in public who is getting away with the most outrageous things that in the real world , would get him punched, arrested and fired from his job .. But naaa he is getting fist bumps and just shrugs from authorities in HR and police..
Yeah, the feminist equivalent of fridging someone is making a guy a rapist. And it's funny because men are expected to write women as like three-dimensional, yet they are extremely two-dimensional in writing men.

>>220893933
If he killed her, then she is forever dead and he would be in jail. Or, he could have let her live, and try to fix the whole thing with his friends wish. Well, maybe he could have used his friends wish to undo killing her or some shit, but who knows the rules and also the ability for him to get another damn one wish willow would have been much more slim if he had a dead body to deal with. It is true that he waited until sarah died to finally get another one wish willow, but he could have also been motivated to get another one some other way. Again, Bear is an unconfident loser you should not try to be either way. I am not trying to defend him, just rationalize why an insecure loser would do such a thing.

Regarding the phone call to change the wish, he never said what he would have altered the wish to be. It could have been anything. Even though it is implied he would have lessened the tone of the wish, what does that have to do with male vs women? An insecure woman would have easily done the same exact thing.

The point I am trying to make is that if the genders were reversed, women would have still made this some feminist movie when it is not. If Nikki made the wish on him and he drove her away with his obsession, her wanting to change the wish would have been viewed as something the woman deserves. Some bitch would have said something like "as you should queen" or some shit. Imagine if bear was some super model attractive rich guy who led her on. The movie would have been portrayed in some way where men just use women as objects (bear would have been sleeping with sarah on the DL while toying with Nikkis emotions) and Nikki should have used her wish on him because he is some oppressor. In reality, the movie is about what I said in my previous post >>220893731 dont try to change people.

This movie has awoken all of the melodramatic feckless virgins of this board and it is a sight to behold. It’s like saying Possession is a cuck fantasy.

>>220893933
>>220894983
Actually, if he killed her THEN used a wish to undo the killing, that shit would have definitely backfired and just kept her obsessed as some sort of zombie or some shit. So, it makes sense not to kill her.

And another thing I forgot to discuss- him making it all about himself. Again, true he is a loser BUT, in his defense, even though he knew she was unwell, how is he supposed to explain what the hell is going on? Remember, he is a loser with no female experience- there is no way he could have confidently admitted to himself that the whole relationship is fucked. If he told his friends or whatever, they would have likely not believed him about the wish, and if they did believe him, they would have ridiculed him.

Obviously, the moral thing would have been to come clean, but he is a flawed character. That is why he is such a good character- I believe most inexperienced people would have acted similar to him. None of this would have ever happened if he didn't have this flaw. Another point this movie tries to make is to be confident. It is trying to show why being a loser is bad and what happens if your loser mindset came to fruition.

>>220894983
Getting caught up in the rationalizations for why he should have kept things going with the Nikki replacement is missing the forest for the trees. It's not really up in the air why he didn't kill her when he had the chance, there are plenty of motivations he could have to not want to do it like not wanting to kill the love of his life or something resembling her, not wanting to kill anybody, fear of what might happen if she wakes up, the logistics of it as you say and on and on, but we don't have to get lost in that minutae because we know what was on his mind when the chance came and it wasn't any of that. What was on his mind and how he rationalized his decision was what he gave voice to, which is that he wanted to be with her, even if it was this version of her that wasn't really her, and his own feelings of being hurt that Nikki didn't want him were stronger than any desire to save her. He wanted to keep her that way for his own sake, not because he was worried about how to hide the body or whatever.

As for how women would act if the genders were reversed, sure, but that whole line of thinking is neither here nor there. Retards on the internet will say retarded things about anything, a movie with themes of misogyny is just going to attract the retarded women. I'd suggest sparing yourself the headache of getting upset over every 'good for her', 'are men okay', 'men should be born into prison and have to earn their way out' comment or whatever whenever a movie like this arrives because it's subject matter that's been handled plenty of times before and the exact same comments are going to come up every time. As annoying as they may be, the discourse surrounding the film and the content of the film are two different things, and the film itself does cast Baron in a selfish and negative light and he's content for his love to co-exist with the negation of the self of the person he supposedly loves.

>>220895296
Retard, I agree with you. He is a shit person- thats the entire plot. I am just saying this movie is not some feminist movie, which is what OP was discussing. What point are you even trying to make?

>>220895440
>I am just saying this movie is not some feminist movie
It definitely has themes of male entitlement and consent, although I agree they are blown out of proportion

Has anybody noticed that incels whine a lot?

>>220895440
If you can't see the line from a man wanting to control the woman he loves with no care for her own agency or the fact that she's suffering as a direct result of it because he selfishly believes that her loving him matters more than that and feminist philosophies then you're being willfully ignorant.

It is not a complicated movie and the line between those two things is not complex. He is not just broadly a shit person, he is a shit person in the specific context of how he treats a woman in a way that is transparently analogous to ideas of male entitlement that are prevalent in feminist thinking. I wouldn't even consider it a feminist movie despite all that, but its feminist themes are not some stretch that the female audience are forcing on it.

>>220895100
People definitely would say Possession is a cuck fantasy if it came out today though've

>>220895506
How am I whining? I watched a bunch of feminist movies lately, noticed a pattern in the writing and criticized them for it.

>>220893731
>Do women typically go batshit crazy in love with their rapist irl?
Yes

>>220895527
An insecure woman would have done the exact same thing. Any insecure person, regardless of gender or sexuality, would have done the same thing. Anyone could selfishly manipulate another person. But oh, because the protagonist was a male acting on a woman in a movie, somehow, that makes it so there is a feminist theme.

No type of person should act like he did, but anyone could. Could have been two fags, two trannies, a fox and a bunny... the purpose of the movie is universal- not just some sort of message towards men only.

Even if there was some sort of feminist theme against insecure men, in what world does an insecure man get a woman obsessed to the point where she accidentally kills him? With your feminist theme, you are acting like men are just able to somehow magically mind control women, as if women have zero agency themselves. What would even be the take away from that theme? Men, don't mind control women with your magic man powers as its actually bad?

>>220892176
I probably wouldn't watch the Evil Dead if instead of summoning demons from hell the Necronomicon resulted in a slightly bigger than usual swarm of mosquitoes.
Your point seems really dumb and poorly thought out just to play the victim in an OP about media portrayal of men.

>>220896067
That's because you're a dumb retard who thinks i'm only criticizing obsession

Man you faggots really will bicker and bitch and whine about anything
The movie is quite good and the girl is cute, it's not that deep

>>220893660
That's so true. I have had two different women that I know of come out and tell me they casted some sort of "spell" on me. One was a genuine obsession type spell she made while she had a boyfriend. She sent me the video of her burning some shit a couple years after she did it. The other chick did a hate spell because I made her mad by not flying out to see her. Both women were liberal and probably think the movie was some sort of feminist shit.

>>220895527
I think its pretty contrived to get to this being a feminist angle from the story and looks to be more projection around the discussion of whats happening in the story. Theres not a single thing in this thats hinting at it being 2deep4u with hidden messaging and it just feels like people making a mountain out of a molehill because theyre pathologically mindbroken to see shit where it isnt.
His actual character is just a coward who accidentally into a magic macguffin, made a mistake and did nothing about it until it was beyond too late.
>If you can't see the line from a man wanting to control the woman he loves with no care for her own agency or the fact that she's suffering as a direct result of it because he selfishly believes that her loving him matters more than that
This literally didnt happen and is trying to insert pressure points into a spot where they dont exist. he had no idea the wish would work and even when it got bad he got told that the quick way out was to kill himself. The absolute majority, if not everyone isnt going to just pull the trigger at the next convenient time. The entire plot of the movie stems from his inaction. im saying this as a person who thinks wishing for love is always a bad, reckless and selfish thing to do.
The biggest victim in the whole thing was sarah because she literally did nothing wrong. Nikki knew he liked her and pretty clearly lead him on while fucking the other guy off and on, but even when flat out asked, he still couldnt nut up and say yes. If any of them knew how to properly communicate, the movie doesnt happen.

>>220892176
Please get laid before you go crazy

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>>220892176
Anon I love you

>>220892176
Anons told me that the plot involves the girl temporarily "escaping" the obsession possession and being lucid at times. Can someone tell me how the guy reacts to that shit? Clearly in the trailer he regrets his wish so logically once he realises the normal girl is trapped in her own mind, he'd want to help her and resolve both their issues

Does he just ignore it or something, because that response would so stupidly forced just to further the incel narrative

>>220896899
>Does he just ignore it or something, because that response would so stupidly forced just to further the incel narrative
Yes, it's the number 1 thing roasties are latching on to. The "real" girl manages to slip out and asks him to kill her and he goes " Loving Me That Bad"

>>220896655
For real man. The whole feminist discourse regarding the movie on social media is just women who have been so misguided and psyop'd to hate men, they find any reason to make men bad.

I just saw a post about how the point of the movie is when a woman is acting psycho in a relationship, its the man's fault. NGL, at this point, I might agree with her as clearly, women cannot think.

A lot of this discussion has made me further question women's logical facilities. Makes me remember that Hillary Clinton quote discussing how women are the primary victims of war as they lose their husbands and children.

>>220892176
PLEASE have sex

>>220896671
Too late

>>220896899
>>220896927
The crazy thing is, if the genders were reversed, women in the theater would have started crying for the woman. They would have said some shit like "after all the sacrifice she made dealing with his obsession... she could have wished for anything but she loved him!"

>>220896997
That's why I made this thread. Women in this country live in a fucking fantasy world of bullshit where they're constantly fed lies through the media. Like, they literally believe in nonsense that is just not even true and nobody tells them

this thread makes me think maybe the feminists were on to something

>>220897049
IK man. Any guy agreeing that this movie is some feminist shit has 0 experience with women- with the exception of being walked over by them.

Ngl I was kinda hoping they went with the ending where Bear doesn't die and these two insane possessed people are madly in love and ride off in the sunset. There's something very messed up about it.

>>220892176
the entire story is boiled down to
>if you are a white man with a crush on a female you should an hero

>>220897219
Nice a virgin bro, all I had to say was ncie apnts and I got in her pants. Nice superior gender

>>220897245
^
Mind raped /pol/tard

>>220897226
Interesting, that would have been a pretty good ending.

I was thinking about this, if Bear became obsessed with her at the end, wouldn't he have continued trying to throw up? I guess we don't really know what Nikki wished for, but if it was something along the lines of also being obsessed, wouldn't Bear would have had some sort of self-preservation so he could please her as long as possible? I guess also we don't really know how the wish works- maybe him dying was her wish backfiring, as wishes are prone to do so?

Lol, what if instead, she wished to bring his cat back to life to make him happy

>>220897264
can say everything except that I'm wrong

>>220897322
You can't say anyhting except incel

>>220897305
i read it more as its the correct thing to do if he loved her AS MUCH AS she did which, i take that killing himself to undo his wish would classify as that level of love.
Even when all of his friends were dead and its game over he still tried throwing up the pills but stopped once the wish got him.

...Movie discussion?

>>220897366
Oh thats a good take too. Damn thats really good ngl. But then, who is the real Nikki? Maybe, the wish made him love the original Nikki as much as she loved him, which is none at all at that point, so he killed himself so she would wake up in a room full of dead people lmao

IK that probably wasn't the case, but it is really fun to think about the ending as there was so much left to think about.

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>audience is supposed to believe this guy deserves death because he had drunken sex with a woman
>the female monster that killed a homeless man and a random touring musician in cold blood is actually le tragic figure
>male police officer ignores a bloodied woman because he's a le man who doesn't take women's problems seriously
>old guy who kidnaps women and breeds them incestually is also a le racist
I can't wait for this guy to sodomize Resident Evil