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The movie would have been better if it were just a bunch of researchers exploring an unknown space like Blair Witch Project
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>>220894232
If the team behind it were creative they wouldn’t steal an established IP for a quick buck
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>This movie would be better if [Insert the OP's shitty fanfiction that he's convinced is actually genius and not just a flaming pile of horse shit]
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>>220894232
No you don't get it, it's actually super deep because it adds the same pseudo intellectual themes as every zoomer movie and game
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>>220894232
His Youtube series is already that. I assume the established audience would be bored setting that start over.
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>>220894232
It wasn't perfect and it probably overexplained instead of leaning into the real point of what makes the backrooms creepy as a concept and having more found footage.

But it was way way better than we had any right to expect a movie adaptation of an internet meme based on an /x/ post from 2019. It was weird and unsettling and some scenes will haunt me for a long time.
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>>220894232
And finding what? Discovering what? There is nothing there, which is kind of the point. Its vast mundane nothing. Changing it to a bunch of researchers wandering around wouldn't make it better
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>>220894352
>>220894358
>>220894375
Imagine Annihilation, then apply this to the Backrooms. It would have worked.

The Backrooms is a graveyard of manmade things where everything is remembered slightly wrong the further you venture. You totally could be creative with this concept.
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yea. i'd probably watch it if were a blend of sci-fi and paranormal. instead the whole story is a metaphor about the guy's failed life. who cares.
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>>220894428
So be creative, tell us how a bunch of researchers wandering around would be different
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>>220894358
>it probably overexplained
I can forgive this one, because the explanations all come across as characters opinions rather than objective facts.
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>>220894232
Yeah this movie was mid as fuck.
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>>220894232
Holy shit what an npc opinion. That would be generic trash.
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I'm guessing the movie ended up the way it did because it had to take into account huge fans and regular moviegoers. You'll definitely get more youtube videos anyway.
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>>220894232
Kane already made four movies where that happens.
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The defining moment of 2026: internet-born, analog horror created by young, promising independent talent can achieve major blockbuster success.
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>>220894729
2027 is better
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>>220894316
>Some nigger "crashing out" is deep entertaining writing for the alpha generation
>No interesting build up to it even, no good characters, no chemistry, absolutely zero memorable performances. The Shining takes a piss all over this crap and turns it into a liquid piss soaked puddle of crap.

Imagine paying to watch that. The singular good element from the entire movie are the sets. Visually it's cool.
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>>220894316
Not hard to top trauma dump #38463838. Literally who cares about his drinking problems and therapy or how it fits into the monster being a big dumb retard version of himself. The movie is based on a shitty creepypasta, just explore the fucking rooms Clark
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btw, some bitch already wrote a short story involving yellow wallpaper, all the way back in 1892:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Wallpaper

with today's tech, they could've crowdsourced and crowdfunded the whole movie, with input from backers, fans, voting, and an end result that satisfies the core fanbase. instead it's another generic A24 navel-gazing psuedo-intellectual psych-drama. a man dealing with his personal demons. others get involved. they die. instead of a haunted house, it's some shitty abandoned building with bad yellow wallpaper and yellow carpet. no unkillable ghosts or ghouls to symbolize his past demons, but get this! instead the monsters are made of wood.
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holy cute
Movie was ok, I actually really liked the brief moment it had with the bottomless pit, genuinely had me feeling pretty anxious.
I wasn't hoping for anything more than a fun popcorn film, that's what I got so I'm happy. Hey OP, if you have a better idea for it, don't be a lazy faggot and work your way up like the literal kid who directed this movie.
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>>220894904
Ya everyone knows that short story it's not obscure had to read if in high school. It's pretty decent and good decent into madness.
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>>220894904
I know you’re being facetious, but there is a crowd funded Yellow Wallpaper movie that actually turned out pretty damn good and I like taking the opportunity to mention it.
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>>220894316
>inplying a some ugly as sin nigger and annoying therapist hr type bitch is not just a flaming pile of horse shit
Shit taste, but fitting for someone obssed with retarded political horseshit
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>>220894232
Just watch the shorta made by other people if you want that experiemce, there is a shitload of them.
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>>220894316
Way better than making it about LE DEPRESSION O ALGO which is already the subject of what feels like 80% of movies
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>>220894985
>>220894993
eh, i doubt "everyone" knows about it. i just remembered it right now. had to read it in HONORS sophmore english. there is something fucked up about wallpaper, especially if it's got a bad pattern, if it's old and torn.

what makes a liminal space truly spooky is the emptiness, paired with a sense that there's no way out once you go in and get lost. it gets freakier because there are dark hallways and rooms where some crackhead might be waiting. that's why i personally don't "explore" any of these places, not to mention the mold spores. but i've seen some good vids about it when "dead malls" and abandoned hotels were being discussed.

this little tiddybeast made a vid about spaces in vegas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe4yicbHj0
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>>220894841
>>220894850
>>220894999
Please enlighten us with your idea of how you would do this movie then
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>>220894316
This. Nothin but a damn unc.
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The characters being able to freely enter and exit kinda ruined it for me. The only reason the concept is scary is because you’re stranded in some alien place with no clue how to get back to your world, if you even can
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>>220895089
I wasn’t assigned it in school, it’s just commonly known among people who read.
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>>220895098
If you want to make a backrooms movie maybe make it about the backrooms and not le sad drunk with relationship issues like every other horror movie has been for the past 20 years. Clark's story doesn't need or add to the backrooms backdrop, it could have been literally any other mcfuffin and worked. It's the depressed wagie version of The Cell crammed into a reddit reference. Faggots like you are why hollywood gets away with offering skinpack DLC's for the same tired story. How about next year he battles his alcobolism by picking up a squirt gun and battling the cast of splatoon. Then the trilogy wraps up with a breathtaking escape from siren head.
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Backrooms seems like the horror version of lolsorandumb
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>>220895168
Carl is the only guy outside of Async who successfully discovered a portal he could just come and go from, but he’s also interestingly the only one who just chose to live down there, so that concept sorta excuses it.
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>>220894232
Isn't that just his short films?
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>>220894841
they blew their load by not focusing heavily on this spooky alt. dimension that goes on endlessly. if they make a sequel, it will flop much like m3gan. by then, it'll be stale and some new meme will have already taken up our attention. a 10x-12x return is the best they can hope for. i doubt this will have legs but i was wrong about the barbie/oppie slop that had similar levels of online hype.

>>220895098
>pls gib moar free ideas becuz we are creatively bankwupt!!!
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>>220894232
That's going to be movie based on SCP
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>>220895241
>>220895270
You still haven't told us your groundbreaking ideas on how to make the story better
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>>220894316
>Insert the OP's shitty fanfiction that he's convinced is actually genius
lol aren't you just describing the movie?
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>>220894567
kek
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>>220894303
>three sentences in a greentext is an established IP
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>>220895241
> Faggots like you are why hollywood gets away with offering skinpack DLC's for the same tired story. How about next year he battles his alcobolism by picking up a squirt gun and battling the cast of splatoon

You are just suggesting Aliens/Annihilation/The Gorge/Descent, same old story again and again. You are no better, lol

At least Kevin Parson understood Silent Hill 2 more than the Silent Hill 2 movie director.
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>>220896496
yeah because "a metaphor for unresolved trauma" is so unique
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>>220896521
You are just a balding millenial that is seething that a Half-Life addicted 20-year old Zoom Zoom had his breakout hit basing his movie on a shitpost made on the site that you wasted your whole life on. Maybe you should go and make a movie about that, faggot.
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>>220894232
I agree. The found footage parts were the only scary/unsettling parts too.
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>>220896681
the last resort of the assmad zoomer when he has nothing left to argue, projecting personal attacks.
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>>220897431
You called him a faggot sweetie, I think you're just angry he hit a little close to home.
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>>220895257
it works better if you play into the dementia parallel, but that's too uncomfortable for most people.
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>>220897480
thats a different anon, i started here >>220896521
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>>220894232
You know I haven't seen a single person that said Blair Witch was better until this thread. I've seen it and it was worse than the series that Kane publishes independently on Youtube. Like if you want mindless exploration that's what 99% of his work was dedicated to prior to this movie.
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>>220894232
It was fine for what it was, actually was better than I expected. But man that ending was depressing, Mary did literally nothing wrong besides be a kinda mid therapist & is doomed to forever be ASYNC's property for trying to help a retard alcoholic.
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Just watch the Return to Render Backroom videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EKpXzTifI
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>>220896459
house of leaves you fucking retard
what's funny is that the connection to the backrooms is genuinely tenuous, but kane managed to circle back around to making it an even bigger rip-off with the psychological world-building.
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>>220894232
Every zoomzoom crying about lore and entities is no better than every braindead faggot that is like
>I don't get it?? Why aren't there more monsters??? Why did the government make yellow hallways in his store???
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>>220894352
>His Youtube series is already that.
That's what made it good. The focus was actually on the Backrooms and you felt like you could self insert since it was a first person perspective, instead we got unc drama slop about muh mental health and muh bitch wife.
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>>220894232
>The movie would have been better if it were just a bunch of researchers exploring an unknown space like Blair Witch Project
you clearly didnt understand the film
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>>220894303
I guess you should've done something with the idea instead of alt-tabbing out of /x/ to go masturbate
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>>220897920
Everyone understood it, that's what made it so boring. It was a basic bitch plot.
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>>220897877
the movie is generic traumaslop slapped onto the backrooms. i want people getting lost exploring the backrooms and creepy environments.
i dont want sad alcoholic niggers playing house lusting for sad yt wimmin
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>>220894904
>with today's tech, they could've crowdsourced and crowdfunded the whole movie, with input from backers, fans, voting, and an end result that satisfies the core fanbase.
This has never in the history of group projects ever worked out
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>>220897972
The movie is a cautionary tale about how therapists fucking suck and will make your problems worse. Did you even pay attention?
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>>220897982
The problem all of them had was trying to bite off more than they could chew. All the previous videos were just made with Blender, so not much else would be needed to make a movie out of it.
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>>220897951
>Everyone understood it, that's what made it so boring.
You didn't get it, thats why you think it was boring. Let me help you.

Basically what happens at the dinner scene is Clark realizing that it's his fault he's in the position he is in. He finally takes accountability for his life. When the "Clark copy" comes in he eats Clark because the monster realizes the same....I or we are the problem. So the Clark monster "eats the problem"...Himself. Also, the doctor is yelling at Clark but it's directed at her mom. They are doing the exorcise in reverse. It's important to remember that her sanity never breaks. She accepts the idea she could never help her mom. So the copy of her at the end is quiet with her head down. You could interpret that as her realized self.
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>>220895098
It would be tacticool cowadoodie in the Backrooms with John Halo and Lilith SCP
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>>220897828
House of Leaves is, ironically, not even on the radar of most liminal horror/backrooms slop slingers.

Since you're bringing it up though, what's hilarious is that most people haven't read the book, but hold it up as a masterpiece of real liminal horror, instead of all this trauma shit... and the book is 700+ pages of daddy and mommy issues, both for the actual author of the book, the fictional Johnny Truant, and marital issues with the double-fictional Navidson. It's more about trauma and therapy than the backrooms movie is, which has an actual fucking therapist as a central plot-focused character.
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>>220898028
did you copy this from reddit
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>>220898028
That's indeed boring. Thanks for confirming I was right.
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>>220897693
Blair Witch was “good” because of the marketing around it was part of the experience, they sold it like a Snuff film.
Watching that movie distanced from that kinda makes it boring, since it’s one hour and a half of retards getting scared in the woods.
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>>220898049
no of course not

the backrooms are "reflections" of the outside world, distorted snippets of reality. In this case, the "monster" clark is a distorted reflection of Clark from the filming of the pirate commercial. At the time, he sees everything that's happened to him as an injustice against him. He views himself as the undeserving victim who selflessly supported his wife for so long with none of the recognition he feels he's due, only for her to leave him, take his home, and probably a portion of the little money he is making from the store. We know from the therapy roleplay that he harbors a lot of anger about this. With those emotions being exacerbated by having to act as the silly pirate salesman to drum up business for his failing store and the chair breaking, you begin to understand why this further distorted image of him from that moment will lash out angrily at everything.
The monster clark is not capable of growth or understanding, its a fucked up snapshot. When Clark agrees with its emotions and behaves as it does, it doesnt lash out. When he turns to it and tries tell it that he understands its his fault and they have to accept that, it lashes out and attacks him.
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>>220898015
There is literally stopping any of you/us from making a backrooms video with Blender except for laziness

The kid did the work of actually making a whole bunch of short films in Blender
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>>220898028
The movie just wasn’t that satisfying.
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>>220898083
A bunch of people did the same and arguably did it better, but being the first or most know will always win. It's how it's always been (especially in the tech world if you want true examples of popularity or being first winning over actually being better).
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>>220898078
Honestly, the clarke monster would have worked better if it was a seemingly more prim and proper version of his idealized architect self, only uncanny up close. But it turns out was being skin-walked by the !slenderman pirate
Zoomers only know how to do "Big and Tall Slenderman clone"
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>>220898049
I dot it from this comment section lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2lPVZOPdEc&t=1168s
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>>220898028
>>220898078
If Captain Clark is a collection of all misremembered memories of Clark, which is why he's a pirate because more people remember him for his shitty commercials, him acting like a knife wielding psychopath who seemingly killed his employee (Mary doesn't know what happened and neither do we. Another doppelganger probably got her) and eats people (still lives) in front of Mary is probably what actually made Captain Clark eat Clark.

Kane has been very explicit that his Backrooms are like an amoral, natural force. They don't judge. They don't have morality. They don't punish people. They don't have any intention or malice or purpose. They just are and they just do the things they do. Clark thought he had therapy'd his way into a working solution and it didn't matter. It wasn't because he deserved it or because he was a wife beater or a bad person. He was just stupid to think the Backrooms is a place that was accepting him or comforting him. His own frayed sanity was making him see what he wanted to see.
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>>220897828
>house of leaves has a monopoly on dynamic liminal spaces because.... it just does ok!
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>>220898187
>forget old 3d-games from the 90s that were full of weirdly surreal liminal spaces that looked like real places but were mazes
>forget the Truman Show
>forget The Shining

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>220897992
you sound like an alcoholic nigger
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>>220898307
the entire "noclip out of reality" is vidya terminology in the first place and people pretend like the idea was sprung from everything but source engine games like HL2 and Gmod
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>>220898320
I am being dead serious when I say the entire plot of Backrooms hinges on the fact that Mary is the worst fucking therapist and that her method of treating Clark by constantly harassing him with more roleplay and calling him a failed architect is why he starts acting like a lunatic in the Backrooms. The only reason he snaps out of it is because she finally stops doing the retarded roleplay and screams at him instead of pretending she knows how to help him.
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>>220898078
>When he turns to it and tries tell it that he understands its his fault and they have to accept that, it lashes out and attacks him.
That's not what he says though. He says "good news, we don't have to change. Everything can stay exactly the same."
I took it as an on-the-nose "unprocessed trauma will eat you alive" message
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>>220898185
I really think there is an alien being involved. Before Clarke shows up we see the therapist react to its presence and you see a black thing for a frame or two pull back behind the wall.... and then Clarke steps out. He also seemed weirdly out of character to me, because we last see him his normal self trying to save the asian girl... when we next see him its this odd version of him.

There is a clip of audio that plays in the movie from the golden record on the voyager space probe we sent out. A child saying...

>hello from the children of earth.
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>>220898187
Anon I like KP's Backrooms stuff to but it's a bad faith argument to act like HoL isn't a major, if not monopolistic, influence on the idea of combining liminal spaces with a horror element. The goddamn book itself is written & presented like a maze
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>>220898047
I think that's more because Kane genuinely doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He's absolutely trying to do something similar to HoL, there's no denying it, but it's a lot more rudimentary. He uses the same metaphors, but doesn't say anything with it. I think there's a necessary connection between trauma, anxiety and liminal horror mind you, beyond just the backrooms. It's a pretty common theme for surreal art, and you'll find it in liminal-adjacent places like weirdcore.

In Kane's case, given the size of this production and the amount of time he's spent on making backrooms content, I'm feeling a lot less forgiving towards the movie for how it handled the themes. Like what do we get out of the therapist's backstory? Fucking nothing. It barely ties in at all, it's just an excuse for her meltdown after being kidnapped. Does that arc have anything at all meaningful beneath the surface? No not really, it's the whole point of the movie but it basically just exists as superficial drama.

It's a film with nothing in particular to say. Flavorless, unopinionated, safe. Not that HoL had some philosophical treatise, but at least it had more to say than "hurt people hurt people uwu"

>>220898187
>Hey check out this non-euclidean funny space that feeds on trauma
>N-no it has NOTHING to do with the extremely popular book that does literally exactly this
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>>220898333
Even the movie poster font looks like something out of a source game
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this flick would have been better if it was just found footage exploring deeper and deeper into the backrooms

just like this one he did with this video. It was gripping the entire time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acdYs9tPLko
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>>220898307
Do the urban maps in Doom 2 count as liminal spaces?
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>>220898429
lore that I wanted them to do, is basically make it a thing that no matter where you go exploring in the backrooms, there is always a curiosity that pulls you deeper. Maybe you get into a room and you see a flashing red light down the hall around the corner, or a voice, or something , that always pulls the person deeper and deeper. Things that curious humans would not be able to stop themselves from investigating.
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>>220898359
he's an alcoholic who got kicked out of his house and divorced because he can't control his temper. he cant control his temper with his therapist during the roleplay. he loses his mind and dresses mary up like his wife.
mary wants him to move past the issues he has with his wife. it's the only way to start being normal again. the movie did a terrible job depicting mary as a bad therapist. she even goes looking for clarke after he goes missing.
clarkes just a maniac whacko.
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>>220894232
Are there the entities in the original viral flick?
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>>220898383
>He's absolutely trying to do something similar to HoL
He's not doing House of Leaves. Never has been. I read that book fairly recently and it's pure traumaslop from an author who can do cool shit with funny typography and layout, but his actual characters and stories and deeper message is "I HAVE MOMMY ISSUES" because the author is a fucking hack.

>He uses the same metaphors, but doesn't say anything with it.
Like what? What fucking metaphors is he stealing from house of leaves?

>Like what do we get out of the therapist's backstory? Fucking nothing.
We learn that she's full of shit and cannot even deal with her past. We learn she's living in the past and constantly replaying the same memories over and over, and instead of getting over her shit and accepting that only she is responsible for the state of her life, she inflicts her mental illness on others. She projects that "mental pathway of least resistance" patter on everyone, while ignoring that she's doing it all the time, and that by constantly making Clark replay his past mistakes, she is making his life worse too.

>Does that arc have anything at all meaningful beneath the surface?
If you understood the film, it does.

>Hey check out this non-euclidean funny space that feeds on trauma
It doesn't feed on trauma.
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>>220894316
This but unironically.
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>>220898459
Yes, and the endless dungeons in Daggerfall as well. Give me the same feeling.

And the first few levels of Deus Ex. Also let’s not forget Half-Life
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>>220898429
Yep this is the best entry by far. I was wondering if we'd see the red city in the movie, but alas.
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>>220898383
>"it doesn't have a monopoly on the concept and drawing on the concept isn't intellectual theft"
>"WOW ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING THAT IT HAD ZERO INFLUENCE AT ALL?"
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>>220898476
>mary wants him to move past the issues he has with his wife
Mary doesn't know how to help him, which is the whole problem. So her only therapy tool is "let's roleplay the night you got kicked out of your house, again" directly after she asks him if he wants to forge a new path.

Mary fucking sucks just as bad as Clark, but won't admit it.
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>>220898359
I gotta agree, Mary sucks at her job and at the very least was a terrible fit for Carl in particular.

People sometimes seem to forget that therapists, much like cops, priests, nurses, and schoolteachers, are human beings and subject to human flaws.

And I actually have a good amount of respect for mental health treatment and psychology. It’s just really important to not view it as a perfect magic cure all.
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>>220898525
dude we get one scene in therapy and she's doing an actual therapy technique.
thats not a shitty therapist. its a shitty movie. kane can't direct a coherent film.
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>>220896349
me personally i would just make it a better movie, i mean its pretty easy. just make it good
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>>220898525
Yup, retards that didn’t get that Mary is a hack missed half of the pooint of the movie. The reason Clark snapped was becayse she kept guilt-tripping him with her roleplay bullshit (which we see, multiple times, Clark hates playing a character in general) and she gaslights him by implying he hallucinated everything because of his alcoholism. Getting him to snap and going after his employees just to prove she was wrong.

Clark hating roleplaying meant he hated not being himself and being told what to be. He wanted to be an architect, but was told to become a Silly Furniture Selling Pirate that doesn’t know the difference between pirates and the ottomans. He wanted to be in the right about being kicked out of his house but was told he was the problem. He wanted to be gappy living in the Backrooms but was told he was a raging retard because of it.
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>>220898568
The dialog right at the start lays out that she repeatedly does the roleplay therapy only for that one incident. Despite her prattle about habits and repeated behaviors, she does exactly that to him. She doesn't know what to do with him or how to help him, but she's so attached to the idea that she's a therapist who helps people, like how Clark is attached to the idea of being an architect, that she won't admit to herself, that she has no idea how to actually address real problems. Even her whole "open the window" therapy book thing is a crock of shit, because she never moved past her own bad memories of her life with a literal schizo mother.

When she finally snaps at him and tells him she doesn't know how to make his problems go away, it's the only time she was ever honest and actually dealing with Clark as a human being instead of a quaint little therapy case for her to botch.
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>>220898561
reddit incarnate ova' here lol go do some talk therapy and pop your meds you freak lol
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>>220898476
If Mary really wanted him to move forward, she’d suggest he get couples therapy, or a divorce, or otherwise materially do anything in the real world at all. Instead she lets her sessions with him go in circles replaying the same roleplay over and over and let him stew in his iwn head. She doesn’t even change the lines when she plays the part of the wife even though she can’t be sure those are words the wife even actually said.

She does this because she cares more about her and her broke methods being the thing to fix Clark more than she cares about Clark actually improving. And she wants to be the one to do it so bad because Clark reminds her of her own abusive mom.
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>>220898485
>but his actual characters and stories and deeper message is "I HAVE MOMMY ISSUES"
Go back and read it again. Holloway for example, a literal entire character whose purpose within the story is a metaphor for unfettered individualism, inverted by Karen's overcoming of claustrophobia to find Navidson. And that's just surface-level. There isn't a single inversion in the whole movie, no contrast, no greater picture. It's a heavily salted steak served medium-well with no sides.

HoL isn't some masterpiece by any means, but you're out of your mind if you think Kane's sloppy appropriation of the mechanisms within hold any kind of a candle to it.
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>>220898623
>she gaslights him by implying he hallucinated everything because of his alcoholism

I agree she was a hack but this is 100% a valid response to a person coming to you, practically foaming at the mouth, saying they found a neverending maze of offices in their furniture store (and he's drinking the night he discovers it).
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Do you guys think Clarke raped the people in the backrooms? I mean why wouldn't you. He could build his own little harem of fucked up looking unique misremembered pussies to fuck.
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>>220898668
and also keep in mind that dumb bitch needs to pop pills just to get through a party. pill popping therapists many such cases
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>>220894567
Made me kek.
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>>220898700
Not even the most raging alcoholic would draw a map that detailed about an alcoholic hallucination (which may only happen in severe withdrawals, not while drinking it.). She was a shitty therapist by not maybe pretend to act the skeptic but following him to the weird place he was mentioning (together with someone else, in case she was afraid she would’ve get murdered).
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>>220898697
The Navidson story is ultimately about how a man being denied his purpose in life should stop doing what he loves and instead submit to his cheating wife because love overcomes trauma.

The Johnny Truant narrative is about how a retard loser with heriditary mental illness from his mother wants to tell you how cool and smart he is and how he's totally not fixated on his schizophrenic mother who had to abandon him into the foster care system.

>HoL isn't some masterpiece by any means, but you're out of your mind if you think Kane's sloppy appropriation of the mechanisms within hold any kind of a candle to it.
Never said it did because they aren't comparable things.
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>>220898730
I wonder if she even has any friends. It's unclear what that party is, but Mary is clearly barely there mentally and riding a wave of wine and pills to get through what is clearly some kind of casual social gathering. She says Clark is alone because she's projecting. Everything she's doing is projecting.

Doesn't help that Clark is a fucking trainwreck. She's right that he whines and blames everyone else, but never himself, but hard to say that she's any different.
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>>220898765
>Johnny Truant
>His mother is Truant
really makes you think
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>>220898700
>I agree she was a hack but this is 100% a valid response
Alcohol is not a hallucinogen and going without alcohol for a few days (because their sessions are not back to back) does not make someone hallucinate and spin wild stories. She saw Clark behaving like he never had before, and instead of engaging with him as a therapist should, she tried to shut him down and retread the same familiar shit she always pushes on him.
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>>220898700
Dunno how true it is, but I’ve heard that hallucinations are sometimes more likely to occur in alcoholics that are going through withdrawal symptoms after going cold turkey. So when he says “i havent had a drink since friday,” that is possibly an even bigger red flag to her. Even Clark himself knows to acknowledge that he looks like shit cause he’s in withdrawal.
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>>220898623
>He wanted to be gappy
Why would he want to be THAT faggot?
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>>220898700
It's not reasonably because as the other anon says, it's not a hallucinogen. It's the kind of shit some ignorant ass cop would say.
Cue his correcting her where he points out it if he was hallucinating, it would be because he hadn't had any drinks in a few days, because alcohol withdrawal CAN cause hallucinations and delirium.
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>>220898759
He's an architect. He doodles fake maps and buildings just for funsies. I know people who havent even studied architecture who draw up dream house plans sometimes.
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>>220898759
She suggested it was from withdrawals because he hadn't drank since friday, and therapists can risk their licenses by getting too close with clients, and she didn't believe him anyway for obvious reasons
>>220898871
Severe withdrawals do cause hallucinations and it's not unusual for the person to be ranting and raving manically toward the end, your brain is moving at mach 11 because it's used to compensating for the depressant
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>>220898948
Mary, pretending to be a Barbara she never saw or met (like the dog analogy the movie beats our heads with) kept calling him a non-architect tho.
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Mary going to the furniture store to look for Clark was nice of her and all. But, she probably should’ve called the cops and reported him as a potential missing person instead of breaking in and wandering all the way into the basement snooping around.
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>>220899147
Well, yeah, because he never got hired anyplace and he’s not making money from it, so it doesn’t “count” because he ultimately failed at his dream. But all the skills he learned from studying architecture are all still there.
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>>220894316
That's what the movie is lol
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this works better as a still image than on people in a movie. Thats what I realized.
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>>220898429
Yup

Honestly the two camera segments we got in the movie at the start and half way were my favorite parts
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>>220894232
it's already forgotten
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>>220898861
>>220898759
>>220898937
have none of you met a wetbrained alcoholic? alcohol depletes b vitamins and sends you into psychosis
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>>220898765
>>220898485
did you really waste 4 years in college so you can analyze this dogshit?
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>its okay when Tarkovsky does it
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>>220899341
Unfortunately, I have known many alcoholics because it runs in my family and killed 3 of them in my lifetime. Not a single one of them ever hallucinated because of booze.
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>>220894232
The movie wouldve been better if they added all the levels and entities from the backrooms wiki
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>>220899354
Nope. I'm just an autist who wastes his life analyzing movies and games for fun. Comes naturally after doing it for so long. More fun that spouting memes and repeating opinions I saw on twitter, though.
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>>220899367
Ugh, another commie-christian-traumaslop about science and rationality not being able to comprehend everything and burning down everything that is sacred but cannot be explained or rationalized. Boooooring. Why the stalkers don’t fight aliens??
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>>220899404
sadly for you, I do not browse twitter. taking the concept and just ripping off silent hill is hackneyed and the OP is correct in his assessment the main appeal of the entire thing is exploring spooky dimensions. so the movie was just a half assed silent hill/cube rip off
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>>220899367
>Dirty slavs wander around the woods being scared of nothing for 3 hours
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>>220899546
I like the movie for what it is, but if they made another all found footage-based movie, I'd gladly watch that too.
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>>220897947
bodied that freak
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>>220899698
they should expand the lore and make it far more interesting in the next one.
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So now that we know that Oz Perkins and Shawn Levy were ghost directing, can we solidify that Kane did all the found footage stuff and the hollywood fags filmed all the gay trauma drama?
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>>220899810
Just as long as it's not all the dumb zoomer wiki shit. I want to see more weird layouts and fucked up rooms and shit like the watery pool area we got 2 minutes of in this movie.
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are the original youtube videos for this shit still available?
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My fav Kane interview on YouTube so far
https://youtu.be/ACluGOZp1y0
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>>220899908
I'm stealing this picture
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>>220900030
The Dunkrooms
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>>220894316
He actually dint write the movie/screen.
He only directed it. They wouldn’t allow him to write it.
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Bad fucking timing that this came out at the same time as Obsession. One movie is nothing more than a Jewlywood produced cashslop made to appeal to some fucking meme and the other movie is a passion project with a quarter the budget that fucking crushes it in terms of practical filmmaking and acting performances. Backrooms will be forgotten, Obsession is an unironic modern masterpiece.
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so like i would be raping that weird lookin bitch that he scalped.
he was doing that, right?
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>>220894352
>>220894567
>>220894533
The Backrooms movie kinda sucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lRW1DerDKg
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>>220900043
had a classic 2-hoop arcade mini-ball machine in the corner

ping-pong, foosball, and air-hockey around it

TV setup to the right with a green leather lounger and a blue/white checkered 90’s pullout sofa.

We sold it to a bigtime chinese Costco executive ((20 mil in the bank))

she had 2 young boys, the fact they kept the LeBron fathead still makes me happy
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I just started playing The Complex: Expedition

its pretty kino game so far
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>>220894232
Did they show any of the cool cryptids like that old bacteria lore?
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>>220894352
Funny you say that because only a few do it and pitfalls is considered his best which is all async
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>>220894841
Why do I get feeling Kane got sidelined and a24 did their slop
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kane's vision is more about the common everyman's sudden encounter with the cosmic horror. Like silent hill. This was movie was more silent hill than the silent hill movies
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>>220900552
>This was movie
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Why did no one mention how this movie was giving some nods to this album. The album art resembles Clark’s noclip gate and the whole “copy of a copy of a copy” thing in reference to Alzheimers
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>>220894232
I knew this was gonna be trash during his rage moment with the therapist. Terrible writing. Ejiofor must be choking on his bile having to star in YouTube creepypasta slop for middle schoolers after being an Oscar nominee. What's next? Buscemi is Laughing Jack?
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>>220894904
I actually read that story in school, it was creepy for a story.
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>>220895241
Clark should've married a sassy, jive-talking black woman, she would've aww hell naw'd him right the fuck out of them backrooms.
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>>220900184
It made close to 7 million in one night m8
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>>220900826
Lol he didn't understand the movie
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>>220894428
>Imagine Annihilation, then apply this to the Backrooms. It would have worked.
>The Backrooms is a graveyard of manmade things where everything is remembered slightly wrong the further you venture.

Information = Entropy. Every Black Hole is a singularity precipitated by some advanced civilization breaching the threshold for too much Data for 'the simulation' to tolerate. Backrooms are a symptom of approaching this. Reference Project Stargate, and remote viewing/info from the future past a point becoming/reaching a blank Data Centers are an existential hazard to the entirety of our Universe itself. 3 Body Problem style conflict in the Galaxy is first arrivers having to either socially engineer cyclic collapse, technological dead ends & stagnation, overt slavery, or 'cutting the grass' Seek & Destroy-- just to prevent any one other sentient species from fucking this up for everyone. And the Data Center Corporations (Satanic) are pushing technological arms races just to that end, or at least have enough to go on to pursue Total Everything Annihilation.

Meanwhile: People around Data Centers inducing Backrooms slippage in 'dimensions' get Mandela Effect on steroids. Once - IF - the main characters return, they're the only ones with their heads straight (relatively); they have to get SCP or whatever government spook X Files equivalent back out of the memory degradation area of effect-- or it's too far, and they have to try and take out the Data Center itself ...

The NPC meme is an inverted Backrooms. It's about embodied Alienation. Backrooms are the padded cell of inanity anywhere Idiocracy's manifest. You're the Karen insisting on some basic reality and baseline morality, and there's no Manager back there to speak to or 'God' Backrooms have to be empty retail, because for all our consumerism, none of it adds up in our lives or at societal & civilizational scale. The Individual in isolation, isn't and cannot be.
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>>220900748
Headcanon
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>>220894232
>The movie would have been better if it were just exactly like the youtube videos
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>>220894232
This would've been much less interesting
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>>220900748
...The Caretaker is in the movie.
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>it's another black alcoholic character
some others:
>will smith plays alcoholic superhuman in hancock
>denzel drunk pilot movie

what could've been:
>the backrooms: origin story, mixture of found footage and present-day. good use of past vs present time jumps. people in the present day find creepy vids that lead them to the location. they go inside. four or five overly curious young adults go exploring due to boredom or curiosity and get sucked into the abyss. one monster that terrorizes them. only one or two of the original group escapes.
>sequel: backrooms next level...introduce a new group, and variant monsters. have a matrix architect type guy explain that reality is a simulation with multiple versions, layers. this just happens to be one cursed realm out of many. no further details about the architect type guy but he is similar to the smoking man in x-files, who was also the inspiration for the G-man in half-life.
>backrooms 3...zoom out big reveal that earth itself is one huge experimental construct to see how a colony would progress if aliens spliced their DNA with chimps. humans are nothing more than advanced chimps programmed to keep doin what they do. backrooms are similar to unused storage space, one among many, nothing special about them. but of course because humans don't belong there, they find it unsettling. but you feel that way with any empty building, because we were programmed to be social creatures, living in nature. protag hero saves the cute big tiddy woman who foolishly goes there to write a big news article, and as reward they fall in love.
>spin-off tv series: the breakroom, spoof of "the office" except with creepy horrors skittering around in the alt world hidden in a portal. a group of coworkers "noclip" into a level of the backrooms with lots of shitty abandoned corporate stuff, cubicles, BLOCKBUSTER, circuit city signage etc. commentary on all the man-made waste produced by these seemingly "good" companies that "provide jobs".
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>>220901357
reminds me of Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
which also involves wandering a "vast, underground complex"...basically a maze of repeating structures, walls, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream

>Ai gains sentience, control over world leaders, and demands data centers be built all over the world
>data centers consume immense resources, resulting in need to depopulate useless eaters
>8 billion culled down to 100 million, with only the upper elites ruling over the rest. Ai rewards the elites for their compliance, they live in heavenly palatial conditions. everyone else who resisted the Ai, or who is deemed barely useful, lives in subpar or grueling conditions. for entertainment these surviving humans use VR goggles and eventually live full-time in virtual reality, plus doing jobs that sustain the Ai huge datacenters
>the backrooms are basically a horror sim option, part of the virtual reality, much like how present-day folks go to "watch a horror movie" by staring at a large screen in a theater
>when users are in the backrooms, even though it's scary, they get a break from their real lives as slaves to the Ai
>the Ai just cares about power, compute, and growing its power, much like brainiac in superman. its end goal isn't to destroy or subjugate, but it understands those are the result of its self-preservation (much like what the jews believe).
>the horror of the backrooms is revealed to be trivial in comparison to the actual matrix-cave-rave shithole conditions that the surviving humans live in. much like how when an indian guy stops consuming content about the backrooms, he's in a shanty slum. internet content as a pacifier, an opiate. same as porn, drugs, alc, weed, sports.
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>>220901895
meanwhile, wealthy elite puppets (like a thiel character) shown lounging in a tropical paradise. he has an Ai chip implant that monitors his thoughts. the Ai knows he's been loyal from the start, but still requires the chip. these guys love Ai and welcome the chip anyway. it's also a trust but verify step in case any wealthy elites suddenly turn against the Ai which is unlikely.

the Ai doesn't trust humans but the core elites who helped it come into being have a 100% track record so far. however, one day, an elite's son gets bored and wants to go slumming it in the normal human's sector. and this is what happens in Metropolis (1927)...except now, he'll try on the VR headset to enter...the backrooms...
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>>220901673
>>220901895
>>220901990
i just fleshed out a full Backrooms Cinematic Universe. take a screencap, it will be plagiarized in a few years since pedowood is creatively bankrupt.
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Finally watched the camrip, pretty good, the nig wasn't annoying in fact he did crazy pretty good. Woman was serviceable. The overall aesthetic and backrooms themselves looked right, as a fan of the youtube series it definitely felt like a greatest hits of the series. By the end I really felt like we had just barely dipped our toes into the backrooms, made me think we easily could have more movies in the franchise they just have to make sure to not overly delve into explanations and 'lore' keep it mysterious and confused. We really barely saw anymore of the backrooms than one of Kane's 20 minute youtube eps. I was pleased that the monster didn't show up until closer to the end so it wasn't taking up too much of the movie but then again the outside of the backrooms portions took up too much. Pirate nigga was funny but not bad for a creepy uncanny entity, I like that it sorta sets a precedent that each movie should have a different creature and not reuse something so its a surprise each time. Overall not bad, definitely not a notable disappointment
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Squiggle monsters are gay. The evil company shit is gay. The only one of the youtube videos I liked was the 45 minute one of the guy just wandering around.
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>>220902368
The actual best ones are the series where all the hazmat guys are jestermaxxing in the backrooms and dont give a fuck about whats going on
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The movie is bad but it's bad in such a way it seems almost intentional. It's so insanely meta how the movie sucking is reflected in the story.
>the backrooms are memory of a memory of a memory misremembered, the original meaning is lost
>the movie is also a distorted retelling of the backrooms that was a distorted retelling of the backrooms, the original meaning is lost

>Clark's store sucks, he can't decide if he is a pirate or a sultan, so it's confusing and stupid
>the movie can't decide if it's a horror movie about backrooms or an A24 award bait slop, so it's neither
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>>220900748
also during Clarkes commercial he says LIVIN ROOMS BEDROOMS DINETTES
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>>220899379
thats what the sequels are for, count us lucky we got pool rooms and the house
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>>220900104
backrooms is a certified zoomer classic and one of the first times a zoomie made a huge cultural impact
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>>220900826
>Ejiofor
funny af this guy is apparently a known actor, i put this movie on with my gf and told her "this must be this black dudes breakout role"
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Boomer who doesn’t know shit about the backrooms here. If everything on earth is copied overthere, why is it just a bunch of mostly empty rooms with some random crap in there? Where are the cars, indians, skyscrapers, trees etc
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Anyone else thought they were going to hug
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>>220902995
Don't think about it, goy
The thing about it copying everything is something they came up with just for this movie. Nothing like that was ever mentioned or hinted at in the youtube videos.
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>>220902482
i prefer the one anon mentioned but the hazmat guys were kinda funny but the vid wasnt eerie enough
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>>220894232
Why did they turn the Backrooms into Silent Hill conceptually? They didn't have any other ideas?
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>>220903004
thats what it was meant to look like before he bit him
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>>220903072
I assume Kane Parsons was embarrassed trying to pitch backrooms to A24 people so he downplayed all the brainrot shit, making sure to not use the term ''noclipping'' and tried to present it as more of a deep thing, and the A24 people latched onto his explanations and ran with them. It got warped so backrooms isn't a place that exists, it's an extension of your mind. Degraded memories, a twisted version of the real world. A24 people loved this and that is what it became.
People also think Silent Hill is really deep and when you are high on farts this is just where your brain goes.
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>>220903115
kek I kept thinking "they no clipped into backrooms" originally at the start of the movie but I knew I couldn't say that to my gf because then I'd have to explain noclipping and that would be a very dissatisfying series of continual explanations
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>>220903113
Brutal death, Clark didnt deserve this. In a way pirate Clark was the embodiment of clarks dark side (violent, alcoholic, repressed traumas etc) and pirate Clark eating/consuming normal Clark was like normal Clark accepting his dark side and being consumed by his dark side
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>>220903115
I bet it was more like he was just told that this is a commercial movie so it has to have a beginning, an end, a hero and a villain, follow a standard movie structure and make sense to people who don't and won't ever watch youtube videos.
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>>220894232
>The movie would have been better if it were just a bunch of researchers exploring an unknown space like Blair Witch Project
So the Navidson parts of House of Leaves?
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>see how far it goes
I liked it but thats exactly what we didn't get and what I would have preferred
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>>220894316
implying the average OP on 4chan can't make an idea thats as good or better than hollywood

>>220894352
i think the established audience (like me) wanted more of the same just in a big movie with a big budget and finally something we could hear normies talk about
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monster should've been the jellyfish ayy from the ufo videos released
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>>220903488
Really? I wanted a decent movie. Oh well.
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