Why do virgin chuds have trouble understanding this?
even when a girl's does something bad it's always 100% the mans fault. you know maybe mudslimes are right we should stone women to death again
>>220899813The zoomer director is a genius for making a movie about how bitches be crazy while making it seem like feminist slop so midwits will think it’s deep and not chuddy
>>220900123But it is Bears fault completely.
>>220899813He is the villain only because he didn’t tit fuck those big fat Latina cannons every night
>>220900250They weren't very big, anon. In fact she was somewhat flat.
>>220899813>i wish she loved me>she makes you eat a sandwich with meat from your cathow is that love? i would demand a refund
>>220900316It's you again. Still going over 12 hours later. You're actually mentally ill. Start shitting on the lighting again. That'll get you the engagement you want.
>>220900282>this is flat to you lol lmao even
>>220899813Oh my god who the hell cares
>>220900341That's Inde? Got any more?
How long before Bear did literally nothing wrong is trending
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>>220900316This. >>220900337I just saw it. What's wrong with what he said? Is it love to you to feed a beloved deceased pet to your significant other?
>>220901420Fucking chalupa looking bitch
>>220901637I'd eat her chalupa if you know what I mean.
>>220899813After she begged him to kill her & he made it about himself he unironcally is the villain. Before that he was just a guy living out a fantasy with his dream gf kun>M-M-M-MUH AUTONO MEEENot an argument, she liked him anyway he just didn’t act on it.
>>220901796The whole possession wasn’t his fault, he didn’t have any reason to believe something like that would happen. Bitching that he won’t murder someone is also a bit odd.
>>220901837Killing himself was taking the easy way out because now Nikki has to live with being a murderer while she spends the rest of her life in prison.
>>220901837He didn’t give a shit about murdering her or not he was just upset that she wanted to die rather be with him. Which is even worse because she wanted to die in the first place because she was under a demon or something else’s control.
>>220901420>>220901341>>220900341I like megan more
>>220901911>He didn’t give a shit about murdering her or notHe gave zero indication that he ever would’ve even considered harming her for any reason. You’re trying to make him into some villain he just wasn’t.
>>220901956>Someone has had all power & control over themselves hijacked by some entity & is clearly suffering because of it. Would rather die>Oh so you don’t want to date me anymore?How is he not a villain?
>>220901866good. she couldnt let the nice guy get a crumb of pussy but let chad plow it for 2 years. get rekt
>>220902001>He’s a villain because… he asked her a question!I’m convinced. Please tell me where I should send your media literacy award.
>>220902036>If I act like I don’t understand what he’s saying then I win the argumentlol no faggot, it wasn’t because he asked a question it was because he was only thinking about the relationship & himself instead of what her real self was relaying to him she wasn’t doing things of her own free will & was in anguish
>>220902155>he’s a villain because… he’s selfish, like no other human has ever been!Wow. Now I see the light. Just kidding you’re a retarded faggot but good try
>>220902155What the fuck was he supposed to have done in that situation to satisfy you? Again, expecting him to commit murder isn’t reasonable.
>>220900167This. Bro made a movie about why men justifiably and correctly hate women, and made it a feminist feature. Bro made a movie about every midwestern white boy's first latina gf and it ends with his suicide to escape. Fucking genius. Be careful what you wish for, bros. This movie is gonna redpill so many zoomers and alphies when they have their first "she's acting just like Nikki" moment. Truly a flick ahead of its time.
>>220902170Can you refute anything without the bitter seething, Reddit memes or non arguments you think are profound truths? Shouldn’t be hard.
>>220902336Right after you make a semi-coherent argument. Won’t hold my breath.
>>220902185>im sorry for having done this to you, ill make it right somehow.
>>220902353I’ve said my position, I know you’re just brown & can’t comprehend it, but that’s not my fault. Or yours being fair to you. >>220902185>WAHHHHHH you don’t want to be my waifu anymore even though you don’t give a fuck about that at all & are begging me to do anything about the fact you’re possessedYeah bro he was a fucking genius.
>>220899813A core feature of being an incel is the inability to see the obvious and blame women for everything, ignoring their own many faults.
>I wish for a billion dollarsOkay here is a billion dollars created out of thin air and dropped right in front of you.>I wish she loved meErm sorry but instead of triggering dopamine chemicals whenever she looks at you, we actually replaced her consciousness with some mentally deficient demon. Also btw, we actually did not even fully replace her, she is locked up in mental jail hell and sometimes she can escape and control her body too and act even crazier lol.Really?
>>220902519Bear didn't word his wish right. Classic monkey's paw.
>>220902519Maybe doing wishes that involve people or sentient things are harder & more prone to having bugged mechanics. If he would’ve wished for like, being the greatest singer alive. It would’ve worked.
>>220899813>God forbid a man for wanting to be loved or wanted.Why is all elevated horror just leftist propaganda?
>>220902519>>I wish for a billion dollarsyou would get arrested for fraud
>>220902185Oh I dunno, maybe ask her what’s happening? Where she is? Try to get details so he can save her without resorting to murder?
>>220900316After a certain point the movie gets really grey, which normalfags are incapable of comprehending. Bear did not know, and could not have known, that the gag gift from a psychic store could actually grant wishes. As things get weirder, he's told the only thing he can do is die to fix Nikki. We are all ingrained to survive no matter what, so of course he wasn't going to just kill himself right away. And then there's the bit>What's so bad about being with me?Which is AFTER his night with the entity screaming and asking why won't Bear love him. In that moment, he's willing the situation to go on to the torment of Nikki, and the entity, but what else is he supposed to do?>lol he should just kill himselfFor making a wish he didn't and could not have known would work? The movie doesn't give enough deference to Bear's ignorance. It is an utterly impossible-to-know-what-you'd-do situation, and normalfags are too hard on Bear. Just look upon the situation as a (fictional) tragedy and move on.
>>220900316The core problem is that making her love him should not automatically make her pursue him
>>220900316>I wish she loved me>Pisses and shits on my carpetThat's not love.>Wish granter just gives Ian a billion dollarsThe movie is dogshit when you think about it too long.
>>220902605There’s a subgroup of people who, consciously or unconsciously, watch horror movies to see sinners being horribly tortured for their transgressions against society. Making Bear(who is at worst a coward) into a quasi-rapist villain allows these people to enjoy his suffering without feeling like psychopaths.
>>220902668Horror movies used to be Morality plays.
>>220902605It would be k i n o if the director made a sequel but it's with a 6/10 stacy who wishes chad loved her no matter what. Goddamn, make it happen Carver you faggot.
>>220902605>>220902668have you considered that the genre itself is sadistic and unfair because its horror and thats the fucking point. No one complains that the girl from Drag Me To Hell did nothing wrong or whatever.
>>220902713>No one complains that the girl from Drag Me To Hell did nothing wrong or whatever.I do wtf. Gypsies aren't human.
>>220899813I think when he said “i want her to love me more than anyone.” It bit him in the ass because he loved himself the most and the evil nigger obsession persona was constantly trying to meet the unrealistic expectations of “loving” someone utterly egotistically loving the idea of themselves. He was utterly irredeemable after the reveal of nikkis torture/fate. He was the one obsessed with her affection and validation/approval of HIM. He was a FAG. He was not NICE.
>>220902713>No one complains that the girl from Drag Me To Hell did nothing wrong or whatever.I do.
>Hey, that other girl like you.>Cool, I don't care.>Oh, do you like me?>N-no way!!!>Okay.>(Dammit, love me, you bitch!!)Why do entitled white loser characters get uncritical sympathy here?
The guy in Thinner just wanted to lose weight and get some road head, he's not a bad guy. Fuck gypsies and curses.
>>220902713>Nobody complains the girl from drag me to hell did nothing wrongThat is almost undividedly what people still bring up about that movie or that shitty David Gordon Green exorcist film where the little girl’s soul ends up in Hell forever, what rock do you live under? There’s lots of horror where people weren’t comfortable what befalls a victim & dislike the movie because of that
>>220902713The issue isn't the genre, it's the audience demanding that Bear has to be interpreted as irredeemably heinous and flawed in order to deserve what happens. Which is just stupid and unthinking. The audience wants its horror to be black and white where Bear is a clear villain who earns what happens, despite most of the fallout being the innocent people around him anyway.
>>220902797Remember when TLC had a bunch of gypsy shows?
>>220902838Except his friend. Fuck him
>>220902900Ian did literally nothing wrong. He tapped hot latina ass and then ignored it, like you're supposed to. When presented with wishes, he made sure he got paid instead of wishing for a girlfriend like some kind of idiot. Bear got exactly what he wished for, you wish for a woman, and your life gets ruined. But Ian was a bro.
Everything could've been prevented if he simply fucked the girl that liked him. Fuck the girl that likes you, /tv/.
>>220902951I don't want to fuck a 300lb injun.
>>220902797In the novel it's just a handjob. Nice. Imagine getting your life ruined over a handjob.
>>220900316Wasn't "more than anything else" the main part of the wish that fucked everything up for him
>>220899813Bear is relentlessly handsome.
>>220902605I don't think he's pure evil and deliberately, maliciously manipulating the situation just because the only thing he values is raping the puppet of his friend's body like some people make him out as, but he still doesn't even attempt to undo it until someone died. There's no reason he couldn't have tried to get another wish to undo it, as he eventually would when it came to a point when he actually wanted the wish undone, and he also would have at least grappled with the idea of killing Nikki when she asked instead of immediately making the situation about him and his relationship woes when he had the opportunity to end it.A lot of the earlier stuff in the film I think is forgivable because it comes down to ignorance and, at worst, cowardice and being emotionally blinded by finally getting the woman he loves, but his actions later in the film make him come across like he reached a point where he would be content to leave Nikki suffering just so he could get his ideal version of her that loved him, which is pretty bad. I would say he's a bad guy, but there's still a gradient between being being totally innocent and being absolute evil.
>>220904826He isn’t evil, he is a coward. He resorted to using a dollar store gag item instead of facing Nikki, even after she set up the perfect situation to confess and clear the air between them; later he is unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions because of his cowardice. He isn’t an rapist, an abuser or anything vile, just a coward who is completely out of his depth
>>220900316It's love.
>>220900341>>220901420Why are her nips looking down? Are they sad?
Yes he just wanted to be loved and had no idea that would happen, but what gets me is that when he finally had someone who loved him more than anything, he still couldn't accept her as a person and just thought she was weird. Kind of ungrateful.
>>220905278They're preparing to enter my mouth (my head is on her lap)
>>220899813Awesome movie, up there with Raimi Spider-man and Titanic when it comes to showing the true nature of women>oh god please just kill me i would rather die than be with a friendzoned guy who loves me and isn't chadWomen would quite literally choose death over an average looking incel
>>220905050He is a coward but when it gets to the point that he's making it all about him when Nikki is begging to be killed it's hard to write it off as just cowardice. If he was just a well-intentioned coward then he would have at least considered or even tried to do as she asked, even if he failed to go through with it. At minimum he would excuse himself from doing it because he was afraid the wish Nikki would wake up or something, but he doesn't do it because he doesn't like that Nikki doesn't want him, not because of his cowardice.
I appreciate that this film didn't treat the audience like a fucking idiot. There is a lot of moments where it shows restraint and actively chooses not to overexplain things. It just let's it sit with you.
Would you eat her shit?
>>220899813Even though he took advantage of the love spell at first, he became another victim. The villain was the demon.
>>220901866ah she'll be fine, she's strong and independent
>>220905339He just wanted her to be Nikki bro. It’s a simple request.
>>220905602The villain is the company selling one wish willows. Even wish Nikki is a victim if you think about it.
>>220905679https://www.onewishwillow.com/>sold out Think again buddy. The people yearn for the willows.
>>220905827Am I retarded? What does "spark the middle and break it in half" mean? Also wasn't the willow in the movie this branch wrapped in nylon rope or something
>>220899813Every men that slightly likes a woman and wants her affection is a villian then
>>220905884According to foids? Absolutely
>>220899813It's less about the guy being the villain more the girl being the victim.He obviously didn't know how the wish would turn out or that some magical wish granting stick even would work
>>220902519First time watching a story about Wish Cranting McGuffin?You always get fucked over if you try to influence someone else's free will.
>>220901934You would gook lover
I mean you guys get why people were horrified by what he did, right? I've heard people try and make the argument that>well he couldn't have honestly expected the wish to actually work, so how can you blame him for anything?which, is honestly a fair assessment... if the movie stopped right there and nothing else happened. But it doesn't. Pretty much immediately it becomes really obvious that it did work, and he really leans into it despite knowing her love isn't actually real, and the real her is stuck inside of her head paralyzed and unable to do anything. And he's obviously disturbed... but then he just continues on and tells her to not make a big deal out of it. Like he has sex with her multiple times- clearly against her will (we know this because she occasionally is able to briefly regain control of herself and she's either panicking and screaming, or begging for death) and he STILL tries to keep things going. He only cares about her to the extent that this fake version of her is in love with him and as long as it doesn't effect his personal life too much- at least not negatively.He's totally fine with keeping her trapped as this kind of slave in her own mind with this fake version of her in control of her body, right up until she kills one of their best friends because he was also trying to hook up with her.Anybody that tries to tell you he's a sympathetic character, or a victim in his own right is delusional, and it says a lot about them as a person
>>220899813Imagine if the genders were reversed
>>220906948no, they made that movie a couple years ago- it was Tilda Swinton and Idris Elba and elba plays an evil magic djinn that's lived for like 1000 years and Swinton falls in love with him. It was alright, i guess
>>220906948A woman wouldn't need to make a wish to have a man love her.
>>220907212Imagine if she was some 3/10 ugly fat bitch and did it to some chad
>>220899813It's pretty BS because the Willow wish was overly weird and meanspirited. Obviously, he just meant: "I want her to why to be my girlfriend and maybe get married." not whatever all that was. Like, why would liking someone make you want to cook their cat or so whatever that weird shrine thing was? Either way, though, I really liked it. Only complaint is I'm sick of gore. Especially when American media has a hissy fit whenever you show a girl who's meant to be attractive/on display.
>>220899813Because virgin chuds are all villains with creepy obsessions. No one likes being found out.
>>220907413Enough about your fetish
>>220902500Says you
>>220907429Tell you more? If you insist...
>>220902406>im sorry for having done this to you, ill make it right somehow.Unnecessary dialog. the movie was clear that he was sorry he did it and was willing to go to great lengths to undo it.
The ONLY character we can truly feel bad for is Sarah. Nikki was fucking his best friend Ian behind his back while leading him on, Ian was into Nikki and fucking her (hinted at early in the film when he brings her home) and was letting Bear get his hopes up, and Bear was basically knowingly having a relationship that was manipulated through other forces and was going with it all the way until the damage was long since done, and even then he cowers out of saving Nikki at the end. Sarah was the only one who was honest with Bear, who showed genuine sympathy for him losing his little cat buddy, and she liked Bear for Bear.
>>220902594>you would get arrested for fraudThe charges, officer?
>>220899813He was the villain and if you don't understand why then you are a sociopath and pretty fucking sad when I'm the voice of reason!!!FACT!!!
>>220902596That opens up a whole pandoras box of mental horror that most people could not handle being responsible for and would try to deny thinking about.
Curry Barker discussed an anthology one off season of a show where each episode explores a character and the wish they make with the Willow. Thoughts?
FUCK NIKKI.
>>220907657Yes please
Even in a situation where he "knew" the willow wouldn't work, his wish was wildly irresponsible and creepy. Power fantasies tell you a lot about a person, and his fantasy was essentially a woman who is actually a dog.
>>220907479None, that anon's retarded. All Ian has to do is claim it on his tax return and pay Uncle Sam his share and he's gucci.
>>220907682Makes sense, dogs are awesome. Women aren't awesome at all.
>>220907626>Curry Barker discussed an anthology one off season of a show where each episode explores a character and the wish they make with the Willow. Thoughts?Pretty solid idea!!!FACT!!!
>>220907682Did you just have a power fantasy near me, you little creep? Literally a thought crime.
>>220907748This series already exists. It's called The Booth at the End and it's pretty good, even if it is C*nadian.
>>220907726How are you going to justify that income?
>>220899813>it's always the men fault, never the women/demons/ayy lmaos/Jinns/Megacorporation A or B etci am so tired of this garbage
>>220900167>>220902301The amount of cope required to believe this is insane. You tried the same thing with The Substance. It's a movie made by feminist twats, for feminist twats. Giving them your time and money and running cover for them is essentially shilling for your own extension. Is it really worth it?
What would happen if suddenly, all men everywhere no longer were attracted to women.I know the women's lives would improve but somehow I feel like men's lives would also improve overall
Something no one ever discusses about this movie when talking about how what he wished for was immoral, or how he worded the wish stupid, is that he had no way of actually knowing it was a genuine real wish. He clearly just voiced his frustrated-generic wish and snapped it without an inkling of hope that it would actually come true. It's like if you made a silly wish before blowing out your birthday candles, and then it turns out it's true and now the entire internet is ridiculing you for having made a stupid wish. I'm sure if he had concrete proof that his wish was going to be real, he would have handled it VERY differently.He's very defendable in the beginning because of this (besides being too meek and a pushover about his own feelings). Even most of the second act he's still defendable because he's just reacting to her craziness, and what is he really supposed to do? No one will believe him and if he involves authorities, she's just gonna get locked away in a psych ward. But once she asks him to kill her and then he makes it about himself and his own ego, it's irredeemable. Then he's just complicit in her torture.
>>220909021both of them are terrible peoplethis thread just seems like single people seething
>>220899813He literally used a curse wordCURSE WORD
>>220899813>Hmmm yes, the man who plunders his grandmothers meds and freezes his dead cat is relatable Zoomers are taking crazy victory laps recently
>>220909692Cat in the fridge thing even confirmed?
>>220899813He was a rapist incel
One thing I hate about watching a new movie that has a lot of /tv/ threads is I'm exposed to idiots more frequently than if I just waited a few years for the movie to cease being fotm. So many fucking retards complaining "He didn't ask for a demon to love him tho?!?!" That's not the point. The point is she didn't immediately love him naturally, so her mind/personality had to be overwritten for her body to love Bear. The nature of the wish was incompatible with Nikki's own desires, so her Self had to be pushed aside. Namely, "Nikki" would have to love Bear more than she loves herself, which is impossible for anyone but Jesus Christ Himself. If Bear wanted the real Nikki to love him, he wouldn't need the One Wish Willow. He even tells the entity that he wants it to "act like Nikki." He doesn't care that it ISN'T ACTUALLY Nikki, so long as he can convince the tulpa to better mimic her personality.Now, what he should have done, if anything, was wish for Sarah and Nikki to swap bodies or something. Maybe that wouldn't work because he still wants her to confide in him with her writing and stuff? But it would result in fewer deaths, at least.You can tell how much of this board is populated by failed normalfags, since their "muh demon" criticism gives them away as simps who wish they could force their oneitis to love them, because these faggot fucking election tourists have only been here ten years maximum, which is evidently too short a timespan for zoomers to swallow the blackpill.
>>220908841>How are you going to justify that income?Is that required?
>>220911315Yes, anon, you should always tell the IRS about every single dollar that comes your way. All billionaires do this, all the time. You don't want to break the law, do you?
>>220909098>shilling for your own extension
>>220910777If you wished you could love jazz you wouldn’t need your personality overwritten fo that to happen. Your brain would just start getting pinged by dopamine when you hear jazz music. Didn’t watch the movie btw.
>>220906758So we're just ignoring the part where his only alternative to the things you're talking about is to kill himself? I dunno like, "isn't making the best of this fucked up situation better than one of us dying?" doesn't seem like *that* monstrous a point of view. Then again I'm not a woman being forced to date someone very slightly below what I perceive to be my level, maybe for them it really is a fate worse than death or something they would wish another person dead to avoid.
>>220905670She was trying her best to be Nikki but she just couldn't do it, like the part where she held the book upside down. He wished her to love him more than anything and she did, he got exactly what he wished for. The real Nikki couldn't have been forced to love him so instead he got someone who genuinley loved him and he still fucked it up because she was "weird"
>>220907470We can feel bad for Wish Nikki, she was trying her best to fulfill the wish and just didn't understand how to be a normal human. She loved Bear more than literally anything and he still wasn't satisfied.
>what if woman... but no responsibility>print it, I'll get the sequel ready
>>220899813WANTING TO BE LOVED IS LITERALLY RAPE YOU FUCKING INCEL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>220912230I've never seen a persecution complex on this level.
>>220909098>You tried the same thing with The SubstanceNo see its different. Obsession is secretly based. The Substance was accidently based.
>>220912495>you can't wish for stacy to like you because…YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY OKAY?!?!The wish doesn't even fucking do what it says it does
>Hey, that other girl like you.>Cool, I don't care.>Oh, do you like me?>W-what?! No way!!!>Um, okay.>(Dammit, love me, you bitch!!)Why do entitled white loser characters get uncritical sympathy here?
Incels rewlly think he’s innocent just because he didn’t know the wish would workNo chudcel should make a wish without utter commitment. That's common sense.
>>220912803It's irrelevant if he knew because he was hoping it would work. Like Light Yagami tried out the Death Note hoping it would kill someone. Yet Bear didn't even have Yagami's skepticism or pragmatism.
>>220912767>Hey, that other girl like you.She never made a move on him though
>>220911513But... if you have ears you should love jazz. Having eyes and/or a pussy doesn't necessarily mean you should love Bear.
>>220899813I don't even know what the hell you're talking about, you seething Eglinbot.
>>220913072He discards the very possibility of being with her until he feels inconvenienced by his wish.
>>220913492He was attracted to NikkiOther girl knew Nikki and their other friends were fuckingShe never made a move on himWhen she makes a move on him he actually discusses it with her and then she diesThat's on her, too little, too late
>>220912767>>220913492If a girl fucks your friends, she doesn't like you. Anything else is cope.
>>220900123>you know maybe mudslimes are right we should stone women to death againHarsh but fair.
>>220902519He didn't ask for her to be into him which could be induced with right chemicals, he asked for a completely unrealistic thing which required otherwordly solutions. Simple as.
>>220902519HIS WISH WAS L I T E R A L L Y RAPE (AND EVIL), SO INSTEAD THEY MADE HER A CAT WITH HOMICIDAL TENDENCIES YOU FUCKING CHUD
>>220907657She’s fun sized I bet you can bounce her up and down so easily
>>220902713>have you considered that the genre itself is sadistic and unfair because its horror and thats the fucking point.Right. It's a horror movie.It's supposed to horrify you. And having been married to a crazy bitch, I was thoroughly horrified.
>>2208998131000%. What I don't get is that 4chan is supposed to be a based place. How do you, as a man with any semblance of testosterone, look at this dude and think he has ANY redeemable qualities whatsoever?Now, if you want to make a comment on why Hollywood promotes films with a weak beta male as a villain, thats a different conversation. The answer always leads back to Israel btw.But as a character, yes, that dude fucking sucks. He is a bitch. He has the chance to tell her he likes her right in the beginning, pussies out, and instead chooses to kidnap her consciousness and rape her.And he has MULTIPLE chances to back out AFTER he realizes that she is not in control of herself, and is miserable, and he still pussyfoots around for another 30-45 minutes of filmtime before taking action to redeem the situation that HE is responsible for.All that being said, I still thought the movie was mid and I do not understand the hype.The Good:>main actress plays a fantastic psycho bitch>comfy one wish willow concept, a la Zoltan from Big>Jump scares and eerie behavior create very unsettling, unnerving horror atmosphereThe Bad:>Dialogue is fucking abysmal>Pacing/atmosphere of final scene with the other coworker chick is ridiculous. "Hey I need to talk to you so bad that I will literally drive to your house at 2am" Then just yaps in the car casually at the park? Dumb.>Typical horror trope of never telling anyone what the problem is until fucking 85% of the movie has passed.>Single teens are able to afford rent to live in their own places in current era Jewmerica.Again. Movie is mid. But insane to whine about le chud when the guy objectively is a pussy.
>>220912030>he still fucked it up because she was "weird"She wasn't "weird," she was psychotic and dangerous. She wasn't even a she, she was an it, a demon possessing and torturing Nikki while it was slowly killing itself and trying to bring Bear down with it.
>>220913072Telling your girlfriend who then tells the boy is a desperate move that comes only after like ten other moves that incels miss.
>>220909397The economy would collapse, women would all turn into hysrerical shrieking banshees, every institution would cease to exit, men would be satisfied living in the streets in rags under bridges, and everyone would die.
>>220909098The main concept of the movie is quite literally "what if obsessed girlfriend but even more crazy than usual" which the director has stated himself. Everything else in the movie is slapped on that main concept as an afterthought.
Did anyone else get ptsd at nikkis behaviour? She was acting like every bpd art hoe girl you regret getting involved with. The mannerisms and diner scene was fucked, got me clammy.
>>220900337>Start shitting on the lighting again.Lighting was shit.
>>220908841>How are you going to justify that income?He doesn't. He just hides the cash and uses it sparingly, or money launders it like \the mafia.
So if death undoes the wish, then the billion dollars vanish when Ian was killed?
>>220899813>people still dont understand that its not a monkeys paw despite 2 other instances in the movie showing that it works as long as you arent a retardwhen he says>more than anyonethat includes herself which bear ends up above everything and everyone in her world basically looking at him like a deity. Love for yourself is one of the biggest things that stops you from self destructing or being as pathetic to piss and shit yourself waiting for someone to come home and bless you with their presence or killing a girl and drawing all over yourself to immitate her so that bear will like her more. The wording is the most important part and people forget that there are extremely high paying professions to be as pedantic as possible to seal up any holes in contracts/documents. If you cant think of the implications of a poorly worded wish, sorry but its a genuine IQ issue. I even say this as someone who thinks wishing for love is reckless, selfish, and robs the other person of all of their agency. If you decide you dont love that person anymore you have doomed that person to pine after you until death and it will be a permanent thorn in your side forever.bear was a do nothing coward who accidentally into a magic doodad and didnt do anything about it until it was beyond too late. Even when he tried killing himself he backed out of it by trying to throw up the pills until the wish got him and he stopped then and only then did he actually """""""""honestly"""""""" love her enough to do the right thing and let himself die so that she could be freed. Sarah is the only one who had some semblance of communication skills.
Gone Girl is unironically a better "horror" of the development and conclusion of a crazy girl obsessed with you. But YMS retard would never say such because he cant jerk off to himself about le diegetic sounds and filming with shadows and "natural" but also not so natural that it hides the unnaturalness seeming darkness
>>220902541>being the greatest singer aliveeveryone else dies
>>220900167It's really funny. I loved the movie. Bitches be crazy.
The wishes the other two people got were fine, what if shes just a nutcase and thats how she would act in a normal relationship
You sorry losers-with-victim-complexes are so predictable, lmao.
>>220914958>Single teens are able to afford rent to live in their own places in current era Jewmerica.He literally says he inherited the place after his grandma died. Pay attention, bitch.
>>220902605>could not have knownLiterally the first person he interacts with about the willow admitted by omission that it works. I'm not saying he did know for sure because he's a myopic character, but the lady behind the counter did say they got complaints for the wishes, and then Bear is like "why, because they don't work?" and she didn't say yes to that. She kinda just shrugs and he moves on.
Anyone else love the music, shit was straight out of the old (good) Resident Evils.
>>220902545The wish scenario is not even relevant, the endgoal is about conditioning the populace to be averse to straight relationships. Shit, the impact is even visible on gay relationships.
>>220909397>I know the women's lives would improve see this is where you're wrong, men would likely massacre women to remove them in this case excepting that they keep enough around for species continuation through birth.but somehow I feel like men's lives would also improve overallThis is where you're right because men are whole people without women, but the attraction men have for women is actually destructive to them.You don't seem to understand how annoying women are if you don't have an attraction to them, think of the ugliest bitch you can imagine and then tell me how long you'd put up with her is she were an asshole.
Women love this movie because it's the story of a woman being a crazy psycho bitch except it's all a man's fault (because magic lol) and she's not accountable for anything. Incels also love this movie because it's about being afraid of women and opening yourself up to potential rejection because you're overlooked for the cock carousel. Men with girlfriends/wives love this movie because it's about how bitches be cray and unreasonable and barely sentient problems that you're shackled to and make your life hell and you're just trapped having to try to couple with them because you wished for this. It's a hit for everyone. It's got something for everyone. Horror flick of the year.
>>220918556imagine if someone with 101 IQ or higher made a horror movie. imagine...
>>220902612He wished that she "loved him more than anyone else in the fucking world", that's a lot of loveIf BPD bitches will slash your tires and key your car because you said a celebrity was hot, Nicky's behavior is in the realm of possibility
>>220902545This
>>220902185If he tried at all it would have meant something Instead, when he finally gets a chance to talk to his friend, a woman he supposedly had a deep love for, his only thought is to ask her "Why didn't you go out with me" instead of anything to do with the insane situation that had developed over time. He had a brief opportunity to really talk to her and his only thought is that he can finally let some of his inner incel seethe out in a moment where he has all the power and can't get hurt. It's symptomatic of how the character is a complete coward through and through, and isn't able to be direct about anything
How the fuck did Bear's fat friend manage to fuck a 9/10?
>>220902784Bear was a fuckwit and a pussy, I have no sympathy for him for passing up a prime goth slampig so he could simp for a woman he's to afraid to confess to, even when asked directly
>>220919353Confidence and being funny can carry your fat ass hard.
>>220918341The music was bog-standard horror synth, like Diet John Carpenter. Sounds nothing like Marilyn Manson and Tim Skold's work on Resident Evil.
>>220919353>Not a pussy>Had a nicer car>Was probably Nikki's source of MDMA/other drugsWomen don't have anywhere near the standards they claim to in public, some of them can absolutely be convinced to fuck a fat slob if he has an ounce of charisma and can show them a fun time
>>220899813Ian was the real villain
>characters who literally did nothing wrong
>movie is about a drunk who hates his bitch wife and blames her for all of his failures>he kidnaps and harasses his female therapist threatening to kill her>women on the internet choose to focus on the guy who made a dumb wish he had no idea would come trueReally makes you think
>>220920691I hadn't even noticed she was asian in the movie.
Makes me laugh that this guy and his buddy wrote and that directed Obsessionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNmnccIY7w
>Yandere>Mind Break>Possession>Blood>Pissing>Scat>Snuff>Nakadashi
>>220920762He is black so they can't go after him too hard
>>220920762Because he's actually the victim of his bitch wife and fraud of a therapist.
>>220920864>I hadn't even noticed she was asian in the movie.Same. I didn't know until I saw pics of her in her regular outfits
>>220911548>Making the best of a fucked up situation is….just letting the other persons mind or soul or whatever the fuck it is remain trapped in the place of non existence or wherever Nikki isLeast psychotic /tv/fag
>>220920691She 100% made up "See's you as a brother"
I dont watch foidslop
>>220901420>>220901341>>220900341This is a legitimate film discussion.
>>220899813i don't sincerely believe anyone really sides with him, they're just being obtuse to troll misandrists on tiktok
>>220920600he's a charismatic funny fat guy, those dudes sling pussy like crazy
>>220899813This is why I'm never watching this shit.>Guy makes a wish because he's lonely>The movies moral seems to be lonely guys are bad and deserve to suffer because they aren't chad>Women would rather die than be with youIt's just the most mean-spirited, furiously-kick-people-when-they're-down shit I've heard and it's genuinely depressing.
>>220923560>>220920691She's gorgeous
>>220899813The only "problem" with his obsession was that he put her on a pedestal, some perfect being who could only be courted if he slowly built up their relationship over time then finally wowed her with the perfect speech, when in reality she was just another slutty roastie who would have a casual FWB relationship with some guy who never really thought of her as anything special. She probably would've fucked Bear years before the events of the movies if he'd just said "hey, want to come over to my place after dinner?"
>>220921623lol i know some freaks out there are fapping to this movie. also what exactly caused her to eat her own poop??
>>220924493Jesus christ man, the movie bends over backwards to make him seem sympathetic, its only when he truly realizes that his wish is having a negative impact on her that the viewer can conclude he's a retard
Inde Navarrette is cute and I wish her a good career.
>>220924321I could see that, but on the other hand, there was Wish Willow Nikki's story about Gretel wanting to fuck Hansel, which would go along with the brother/sister thing.
>>220924562every fucking time
>>220924522>he doesn't partake of the forbidden fudge
>>220899813>Villain More like a total pussy who should have just said he liked her when asked. Zoomer men can't into normal social behavior.
>>220924580I miss when women's stupid tattoo ideas were typically just tramp stamps, as opposed to little scribble doodles or massive blots of bullshit.
>>220902004>Chad The other friend dude was anything but Chad. Just a regular guy who wasn't fucking autistic and always scared of asking a girl out.
>>220900123Those and traitor white men.Like, the 2 latest popular horror films has>Men BAD>BlackedI can't fucking respect most white men anymore.
>>220924493>It's just the most mean-spirited, furiously-kick-people-when-they're-down shit I've heard and it's genuinely depressingYou can even see women infiltrating hobbies of harmless men who just want to rot in peace.Like...how fucking rotten inside you must be to do that? No shit a lot of women are unmarriedThere are even feminists who got a job in some game company just to shit on those men, like, that's excessive
>>220924607I actually find tramp stamps kinda hot but every other type of tattoo is a turn off idk why
>>220924321Nikki obviously sees him as a brother AFTER he pussied out even when directly confronted about his feelings. That's a fast track into "gay little brother" territory.
The soundtrack, even the happy songs that play when they first have sex, fill me with dread
>>220924493>lonely guys are bad and deserve to suffer because they aren't chadShe literally asks the guy if he likes her and he keeps blabbering like an autismo saying "we're just good friends" or whatever. Being a bumbling Zoomer faggot is totally the guy's fault. Also, the solution was so simple, could have convinced literally anyone to wish for the wish to be invalid and it would have worked.
is funnier when you read the screenplay and you notice that Bear was aware she was not herself almost inmediately and keep having sex with her
>>220900123Why are chuds and incels always brown? It’s no suprise that the rise of patriarchy on the internet happened at the same time as the increase of brown men on the internet.
>>220924951>Also, the solution was so simple, could have convinced literally anyone to wish for the wish to be invalid and it would have worked.It's pretty explicitly stated that it in fact would not work.
>>220925008No, if someone else made an opposing or contradicting wish it would work. If only the guy would be calm enough to explain the whole situation to a friend or ask someone to repeat certain words while using the stick, it would work.
>>220925008It would've worked if someone else wished to cancel Bear's wish. Bear was just being a retard wanting Ian to wish that he never made the wish to begin with which goes against the rules of "time manipulation"
All he had to do was to get someone to wish for the Nikki from the wish to have her own body or form. That way Nikki gets her life back and Bear still has a girlfriend, everyone wins.
>>220920762DRUKbros stay winnin'
>>220899813People act like they wouldn't do the exact same if they were in his shoes. Give a woman the One Wish Willow and Jensen Ackles or some other hot celeb gets their consciousness yeeted to hell
for godsake
>>220899813Bear is the hero and did nothing wrong
>>220925309Women will make every excuse to stay in contact with the best friend's brother who raped them
>>220925309>Men don't stay in touch with their rapistsSo immature
>>220925309She's reclaiming her agency by maintaining rapport with the man who initiated and abused it by raping her. He doesn't get off the hook that easy by being able to just walk away from that. Little by little, with every late night text sesh, the dignity he stole from her is met in kind by her stealing back the debt of emotions that would've accompanied consensual sex if he was a decent human being until it's repaid in full. Either MAN UP or walk away if you can't handle that.
>>220899813not really, that's how women act when they like you, my ex used to hit her head on the bed frame because i didn't want to go out and used to scream in the bathroom at 3am because i told her to move out, women are fucked up
>>220902406he tried to kill himself about it and was contemplating it, he helped her hide a body, he tried to cancel and change the wish retard
>all the redditors complaining about him “not doing more” to break the curse when his only out is killing himself or killing her Do these people think they’d actually go through with killing themselves because it’s “le noble thing to do”? Because he made a wish without his even realizing?That was the more realistic part of the movie, that he only did it when things got really bad, and even still tried to pull out.
>>220902605the people seething over Bear on social media are just misandrists and foids that got creampied by chad and ghosted, they feel the need to tell everyone how this movie is actually about how "men are awful"
>>220902713she did, the old lady ended up dying because she wanted a promotion
>>220925309These women are literally handing you their red flags and a FREE get out of jail card and guys will still stick with the rabid dog cause "I can fix her".Guys are the problem for enabling the behavior in the first place.
>>220904826he thought she was crazy most of the time and having a mental breakdown, not until the call or after it he realized the wish was actually real and magic was involved
Why is she so beautiful?
>>220924479no they don't lmao
>>220925711No but I'd kill her lol.After we've had enough sex first.
>>220919353because he never started off as a friend, probably showed sexual interest from the first day they met, that's how you do it
>>220899813im sooooooooooooooooooooo gay for you
>>220925916Desu I'd probably kill her when the killings start happening. Would give an easy out too.
>>220899813Idk I didn’t see the flick and I’m not going to
>>220924493Yup, if the roles was reversed, it would a be a cutsey romantic movie about a sub5 woman wanting chad and him acting silly, but since it's a man it's a horror movie lmao
>>220925309don't stay with women like this, my friends gf cheated on him with her rapist because he came back a few years later to tell her he went to therapy and wanted to reconnect lmao, most women are disgusting creatures
>>220926022>cucked by the same guy twicetip top lel holy KWAB
Inde is really hot...
>>220927017She really is. She's also crazy short (5') which is my personal fetish.
>>220927017latina sexo
>>220902625>autistic anon realizes making a bunch of inanimate paper appear is different from forcing a thinking human beingAdorable but you need to be 18 to post here bud
Are there decent camrips of this flick out yet?
>>220902301>bro this>bro thatanon, you should go back
>enjoy the movie as a decent horror flick since horror has been in a rough patch for a while>enjoy the retards on all sides arguing the movieProps to Barker for starting the movie with Sandy's death to rattle zoomers and spineless millennials.
imagine hugging and kissing nikki and feeling her squishy body and she likes it haha
>>220900167Exactly. Women are trying to save their reputation by laundering in this message that Bear was some evil rapist, when he was clearly a good kid with noble intentions and feelings for Nikki, who got into a crazy situation that nobody could have predicted. The reason the movie hits is because every guy has had a Nikki in their lives.
>>220929161Imagine squeezing Sarah's soft meaty thighs while eating her hairy Asian pussy haha
>>220925544That type of woman has a work from home job making twice as much as you and she only sends three emails a day.
>>220928911Same
>>220899813every man need something to be obsessed about something it's a need no woman will ever understand
I hate how nuance is fucking dead and it's becoming increasingly normalized to see everything in black and white, rather than shades of gray. Bear was not a chud or incel, just a rather reserved and meek dude whose crush on Nikki caused spaghetti to pour from his pockets. Dude could crack jokes and maintain friends (and kept his shit together around Sarah). Did he make increasingly wrong decisions as the story with magical elements went on? Yes. Did that make the story better? Yes. I can't stand people hating on a character for not playing it safe by picking the "correct by today's moral compass" options. All this tells me is that people don't read enough books. Yes I'm mad, yes I'm a faggot for letting other morons faggotry affect me like this. Anyway, biggest laugh I had was when he finally went back to the store and had a meltdown after the dude pretended to not know what a One Wish Willow was.
>>220929447i mean i get it but the movie is with you so why get mad about the internet discourse around it. of course efoids would performatively react like that - and white knights would be tripping over themselves to say what a heckin baddo bear is
>>220929447t. incel
>>220899813Nobody understands this movie but me. Bear, Ian and Nikki were all terrible people who deserved the bad shit that happened to them. The only likable character in the movie was Sarah, who was a perfect angel and did nothing wrong.
>>220924321She did not. Evil Niki wrote self insert erotic Hansel and Gretel fanfiction because she still saw Bear as a brother even after becoming obsessed with him.
>>220928911Sandy was the spirit that took over Nikki's body, as it was the only one that loved Bear more than anyone else in the world.
>>220909098irl the wishing part is sleeping with her and not contacting her until she reaches out to you
>>220929776Nikki was not a terrible person though, if anything she's the only one of the cast that isn't a piece of shit.
>>220929961Nikki treated Bear like shit dude. Stop being a simp.
>>220930033Why? Because she wouldn't suck his dick? Bear was a fucking coward and deserved never getting the girl. Stop defending beta cucks like him.
>>220901341she's like a 10/10 from the boob up
>>220930098I liked her legs in those shorts.
>>220930057Because he was obviously fucking depressed over the phone and she manipulated him into coming out to trivia while trivializing his feelings. Because she "playfully" hurt his feelings only to go nuclear when he tried to do the same back to her.Because she purposely kept him in his simp box instead of telling him she was never going to be into him. And worst of all, she borrowed $20 from him only to give it to a random homeless man. Who fucking does that?The fact that Bear sucks doesn't automatically Nikki a good person. She doesn't do a single nice thing during her short amount of time in the movie. Also the fact that everybody immediately assumes that Nikki is manipulating Bear to hurt Ian is telling of how they see her as a person.
>>220930057>She knows hes into her>leads him on emotionally anywaysits awkward but you really have to put a stop to it once you notice if you dont reciprocate. Its a shit thing to do regardless who does it. It leads people into getting an obsession™ and starts the retard spiral of what you see at the beginning where you start thinking>oh well if i can just do or say the right thing then itl work for sure this timeits 10/10 times better to stamp it out than decide that youre just going to let it fester.
>>220929251>Good kid>Is being with me really so badHe's a selfish narcissistic coward. It's clear very early on that Nikki isn't right and he just ignores it because he's happy. He's a rapist. He's an incel. He's a loser.
>>220930216>And worst of all, she borrowed $20 from him only to give it to a random homeless man. Who fucking does that?She did that to Sarah, not Bear. She also directly confronted Bear about liking her, repeatedly told him "eww" whenever he or someone made allusions to her being his girl, made it clear he was a friend and nothing more. Bear is the idiot who's stuck, and the film beats you over the head about how little Bear actually knows about Nikki as a person.Is Nikki perfect? No. But she's far from being as bad as Bear, Ian or Sarah.
>>220930216>Also the fact that everybody immediately assumes that Nikki is manipulating Bear to hurt IanDid everyone know that Ian and Nikki had been hooking up for a while? I thought only Sarah knew.
>>220930328ian probably did but it never really explicitly says itanon theres only like 4 actual characters in the movie, who else besides bear wouldnt know?
>>220901866The wish stick was sitting on the table, she can just use it
>>220929447>Rather reserved and meekHe's a loser little bitch who can't take responsibility for his own actions. The cat at the beginning shows this. His cat didn't just die he killed it because he left pills out. He can't muster up the courage to kill himself or Nikki. He's the villain. There is no gray to this he's a bad person.
>>220929776What did Nikki do? The worst we hear is that she occasionally drops molly and has been sleeping around with Ian, while she's simultaneously the only one willing to give money to a homeless man outside a barBy the end of the movie, her life is destroyed and she'll almost certainly go to jail, and she did nothing to deserve it. Bear is forever in the wrong for not coming out and saying something when she directly asks him "Do you like me?"
I'd wish for the girl I like to love me and then I'd reject her for the girl that always liked me
>>220930317Bro she literally said "when I'm into a guy, nobody knows" to the guy who is clearly simping over her. She did everything she could to keep him in the friendzone and quiet about his feelings. >but she asked if he liked herShe ambushed a very timid man aggressively with the question right after getting mad at one of his attempts to flirt with her. He was obviously going to lie about just wanting to be friends.
>>220930216She gave a homeless guy 20 bucks. Everyone assumes that because that's what girls do that's not just a Nikki thing. She's not a perfect angel but Bear really is the only bad person in this movie.
>>220930388If he had a pair of nuts he would say something. It's so obvious its painful to watch.
>>220901866the assumption is that she wished for him to love her as much as him. even when all of his friends were dead and it was GG he still backed out of killing himself. Wasnt until the wish got him that he stopped trying to throw up the pills. Its the only time where he finally does whats "right" and lets the pills kill him so she can be freed from his wish.
>>220930357He also fucks Nikki after he knows the wish worked, and he'd be fine with her soul being tortured and in agony as long as she can "act normal" with him. He only freaks out because she's being inconvenient and freaky, if she was acting like normal Nikki he couldn't give a flying fuck his supposed friend and love of his life is agonizing to give him this life. When the real Nikki finally surfaces and begs him to kill her, the woman of his life begging for him to end her misery, he instead just asks about what's so bad with being with him. He didn't know she wasn't close to her dad while everyone else knew. When he fucks her he doesn't even look at her and see the tears running down her cheeks.Nothing about Bear is in love with Nikki, he just wants her body for himself. He's a coward and an evil piece of shit, and the movie did a great job at getting you to sympathize with him at the start.
>>220930403You are blinded by simping just like Bear defenders are blinded by incel rage. She was a bitch and he was a loser who only loved the idea of her.
>>220930421>the flawed character who is the foil for the entire movie has flaws:o
>>220930388I just know you relate to Bear and simped for girls this cowardly before. There's no way you would be taking this position otherwise. Nikki was purposefully taunting him to admit he liked her, so she could break it off. She was leaving anyway, so if they couldn't be just friends, she was going to leave him behind because she wasn't interested. That's why she "ambushed him aggressively". She was sick of it, she just wanted a friend, not a simp.Holy autism, batman.
>>220930403$20 that wasnt hers
>>220930441It's not blind simping I just don't get how any retard could watch this and be like "Well Nikki was a bad person". She's some dumb 20 something who's trying to figure it out.
>>220930464If she was doing that, she would have just outright said she was not into him.
>>220905278It's called ptosis.Forest Whittaker has the eye form.
>>220930434I fucked up and spoiled the movie but even from the jump I hated him. He's the typical good guy incel.
>>220929940I did find she was acting like a cat a lot, with the weird movement, making those little paw mannerisms, the way she puked cat food on the floor, implying she ate it (at least it looked like cat food). Also explains why wish Nikki was so ignorant of how the world worked and how people acted. Nikki also refers to wish Nikki as "she", and not "he" or "it".
>>220930465It's 20 bucks I'm sure she'll make it up to Sarah some how.
>>220899813SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP SPOILING COCKSUCKER!!!
>>220930486She literally was. Or do you think someone going "ewww don't say that" when someone tells Bear "your girl" is not obvious enough for you? Come the fuck on anon, she was as obvious as could be.
>>220930510Via her new business in brick delivery.
>>220930524She proceded to tell him that when she's into a a guy nobody can tell. I could tell she wasn't into him but Bear couldn't and she was a bad friend for not making it clear to him.
>>220930533Lol, I was thinking about the movie last night. I think if bear somehow got trapped under a truck or something too heavy for Evil Nikki to lift she'd tear her arms off by the shoulders trying to lift whatever is crushing him.
>>220930350It was broken- the freaky Nikki used it to make bear love her at the end before he died. I thought that was a super neat detail
>>220930576This is getting pathetic, anon. If a girl says "eww" when talking about you to your face and you don't get it, that's a you problem, not a her problem. Also she may have been talking about liking Ian when she said that, with the revelations later in the movie, if Sarah is to be trusted.
>>220900341>>220901341>>220901420>brown nipplesThat means it has brown pussy lips and a brown asshole.HARD PASS
>>220901866There might be enough evidence on scene for a true detective to find out what really happened. Nikki will talk about how she felt trapped in her brain or another world and had to watch something take over her body. The wishing willow is on the scene. Their friend group knows Nikki has been acting weird lately. There has to be security doors from the hospital where Nikki is clearly fucked up but just dances around the car.It all depends on if everyone knows about wishing willows and there is some conspiracy to keep it quiet or not.
>>220930648She's a spic you dump retard. What did you expect? Darker nips are hot.
>>220930652>I'm telling you officer, it was a wishing willow that did it! See this piece of wood there? You break it and it grants you a wish! It wasn't my fault.She's fucked anon. No one would buy that. Ian wouldn't even believe Bear after everything he's seen until he wished for a billion dollars as a "whatever the fuck" and got his wish granted. Cops would never believe a triple murder suspect.
My favorite unintentionally funny scene was when Nikki and Bear decided to fall asleep together in bed while cuddling and Bear was trying to get out of bed and Nikki with her eyes closed very angrily yelled "STAAAAAAAY." Nearly cracked up inside the theater thinking "that's just dating a latina"
>>220930675They still have to investigate this. You never know man. A lot of people saw her freak out at that party and try to kill herself. She'd probably still get a psych ward but there is an explanation to all this. It would be funny if somehow Wishing Willow had insurance for wishes gone wrong and she filed a claim.
>>220930722I don't think that's unintentional. This movie is a mix of funny and scary. The latina joke is funny. To me that's just all women hehehaha I hate women.
Would it have been kino if she used the wish thing to bring him back to life?
>>220930757>This movie is a mix of funny and scaryI also laughed when Ian got shot
The other wishes worked without fail that we saw. what if she was just a nutcase and thats what it was like actually dating her.
>>220930664>Darker nips are hot.fuck captcha this site has needed a fucking shitskin filter for over a decade nowto keep you disgusting niggers in your shitholes and away from white people and our technology. because you're all dumb, ugly and stink.
>>220930763Disclaimer on the box says it can't do resurrections, nor time travel and creating other wishing willows. There was something else but I don't remember.
>>220924975how do you see the bottom of a leg? shit writing
>>220930779T-thanks, doc.
>>220924975yeah the screenplay is so much less interesting and black and white I'm amazed it turned out as well as it did to the point I wonder how much was intentional - like so much of Barker's comments sound more like "wouldn't it be cool if"? and exploring the extreme relationship hell rather than a clear thesis meant to center on deconstructing naive Bears
>>220930770I laughed when he did the billion dollars thing because it's acted out like a joke. There's another part where Ian and Bear are talking and Nikki is clearly staring at him in the background. Bear getting yelled out when Nikki glassed herself was funny to me. The phone call is the perfect mix of funny into dread. >>220930774>Other wishesThere were only 2 others and the 2nd one we didn't really get to see play out because Bear just dies. Bears idea of love is what evil Nikki embodies, an obsessed nutcase who wants the other person to only think of them and their happiness only comes from them. It's a bad wish because Bear is a narcissist.
>>220930779>This mad over another person's opinion Chudmaxing
>>220924975Bear basically mind controlled her and raped her repeatedly. At first, fine, you wouldn't expect the wish to have actually worked and you wonder if she really loves you. But after the customer service call? After everything you saw that makes it clear the wish worked? And you still keep plowing her when you know her spirit is screaming in agony? What an evil piece of shit.
>>220930844we also got to see the guy at the shop say his turned out fine. Kinda just have to go on whats presented because everything else is speculation. as far as we know hes had no ill effects.
>>220929776>The only likable character in the movie was Sarahnot really. she thinks Nikki is having a psychotic break and is more concerned about trying to swoop in and steal Bear while feeding him spurious gossip. she also held onto this crush refusing to confess for a long time, sound familiar?
>>220900123>we should stone women to death againsorry, are you a white man or a middle eastern?
>>220926022Women absolutely love rapists lol. Biological evolution shit.
Wow, lots of browns in this thread.
>>220930648FUCK.
>>220930866we don't see them having sex besides the one time. and if anything by the point of the call she's acting so insane it'd be more like he is the one being coerced in an abusive relationship to acquiesce to sex. his fault is still being too blinded by his delusion and fantasy to recognize her pain and seek redress - yes the circumstances complicate that solution but he tries nothing until people die
>>220930930Yea but he seemed to know about dark magic bs since he worked at that odd store. He probably wished for something simple. Clearly bear isn't the first to want their wish undone because the phone guy says he can't undo wishes without bear even saying anything about that yet.
>>220931010Even when people die, the correct call would have been to call the police and turn himself in. Then it hard cuts to him helping her get rid of the body and going back home. Bear is hopeless and just cannot take responsibility for himself or others. He's beyond saving.
>>220931033Even the first lady at the counter (the one with no bra) was saying that people would come in and complain about the wishing willows. So def not the first time it happened.
>>220931049>He's beyond saving.by that point in the film? yeah I guess but a lot of it the result of just extreme duress coupled with very common banal immaturity that people have to have dating experiences or conversations and confrontations like this to grow out of but they certainly can - like if he had just dated Sarah