Cause the demon is fucking with him and is disingenuous as fuck. The movie had the montage period of the honeymoon phase where they were fine until it got abusive. most on the nose part

>>220928572
I wonder theoretically, Nikki could end up loving Bear because loving him is what makes the pain stop. The pain mostly comes from the fact that she doesn’t love him, so if loving him reduces it, she could start being conditioned to love him. Bear becomes the only person who can make the pain go away.

>>220928572
>Cause the demon is fucking with him and is disingenuous as fuck
HMM SO THE WISH ACTUALLY WAS FAKE DESPITE OTHER WISHES BEING REAL. HMMMMM

>>220928535
Because Stockholm Syndrome isn't real. People should really learn the story behind it

>>220928659
They made the guy so beyond pathetic, who could actually love him though?

>>220928727
If loving him became the only source of relief, maybe Nikki would learn to love him

>>220928535
Freaky Nikki!

>why does this horror story go in a dark and upsetting direction?
This movie is serving as a fine litmus test for chuds and morons

>>220928535
The whole cat murder thing was done in TGWTDT and Smile.

Its sorta played out by now

>>220928810
>Its sorta played out by now
Feels like pretty much everything in horror has been played out now.We're down to black guys examining empty office buildings and chuds wishing for women to love them.

We need to talk about the demon elements of this more

>>220928840
Mark my fucking words, we're going to wrap back around to F13 style slashers with nudity and schlocky practical effects. It'll piss off the usual suspects and be considered progressive and bold.

>>220928942
That's what I hope for. I miss the grimy hardcore slashers of the early 2000s. No message, just fucked up shit.

Obsession felt like a step in this direction, despite all the people trying to make it about incels.

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>>220928708
It's a shit movie that fails in it's premise. the tag line is
>be careful what you wish for.
but it literally did NOT do what barron wished for. It did the opposite. he never said;
>I wish you would lock Nikkis consciousness away in mental hell and replace it with a mentally unstable, inconsistently written demon
>and I wish this Demon loved me but also continuously disobeyed me for the sake of things happening that the writer wants.

It's not a "monkey paw" narrative either. the writer is a fucking retard who doesn't undertand he's own story.
"monkey paw" and "be careful what you wish for" require that the wish ACTUALLY BE GRANTED but then it turns sour in an ironic twist like:
>Nikki falls in love with him but gets too obsessive, possessive and smothering in an actual human and interesting way.
BUT NO instead he literally just made a typical demon possession movie like the exorcist, where she's weird and demonic instantly and she's not even a human so she has no accountability and nothing she does is interesting or has any meaning or impact since it's literally not her.
FUCKING STUPID.

>>220929266
seethe

>>220929266
she looks soft

>>220929266
He did though

>>220929266
>he didn't understand the Schrödinger's cat sci-fi angle
>didn't catch that Nikki got her counter wish at the end
filtered and retarded

>>220929355
>Schrödinger's cat sci-fi angle
1. it's not a Schrödinger's cat, she's possed by a demon that's a fact.
2. That has nothign to do with "mankey paw" and the fact that the idiot writer made false statements about what kind of movie he made.

>Nikki got her counter wish at the end
Nikki never got to make a wish. the tree root was wasted on the money wish (you'll notice no demon was summoned and the guy just got exactly what he was asked for) shit writing.

Why was freaky Nikki so interested in the cat?

>>220928572
You until Bear tried to fuck her against the real hers will.
So basically immediately.

You losers have your argument fall apart because he didn't wish for her to fall in love with him, he wished for her to LOVE HIM MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. That includes herself and why she stood there pissing and shidding.

>>220929502
>LOVE HIM MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE
Which just means that she loves her more than whoever she's closest with.. which was apparently no one.
she hated her father, she was preparing to move away form everyone she knows.. maybe her mother? which would be very easy to do when it can just spawn money out of nowhere.
In no part of that did he wish for Nikkis body to be hijacked by a demon.
if he wished
>man I really fucking hate Nikki, please send her to hell and give me a demon who loves me instead.. thanks
then it would make sense.

>>220929502
Anything in the world but yeah

>>220928535
Bear never experienced high school romance so no woman could ever love him even under extreme circumstances.

Where was nikki when she was screaming on the phone when bear was talking to the help guy?

>>220929575
Even that doesn't work because obviously the demon loves being creepy for the sake of the writer, and his contrived scenarios, a lot more than it loves him.

I would drink Nikki's piss.

>demon
There was no fucking demon you spergs

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>>220929588
Mental hell or wherever she goes when the demon has full control.
The fact that a simple "Love gone out of control" concept fell so far into sloppy, barely coherent, tacked on metaphysical Kingdom Hearts bullshit is indicative of how badly executed this movie was.

>>220929420
>Nikki never got to make a wish. the tree root was wasted on the money wish
He bought another one and tried to get her to make her own wish. That's literally why the camera pans down to the broken wish toy after he dies. So she got her wish, but she is left with the horror that she killed all of her friends.

>>220929266
are you one of those rlm faggots?

>>220929672
>That's literally why the camera pans down to the broken wish toy after he dies
That's the original one that he used to make the wish.
She is never shown making a wish and the demon clearly had full control for the entire last scene so it would never wish for him to die. he clearly kills himself voluntarily.
further more you're telling me it can't make her love him without summoning a demon but you think that the movie can just make him kill himself without summoning one?
c'mon retard.

>>220929696
Not him but I am and I agree with him. Stop apologizing over poorly written movies that are just slightly better than the glut of shit horror we've had in the past decade. Hokum mogs the fuck out of this movie

>>220929651
Who was the other person then. Why would Nikki asked to be killed and the other person was asleep

>>220929696
The only reason this movie is being praised is because it's not typical Hollywood slop.
it's still atrociously written garbage.

Tell me about Inde. Why does she love Call of Duty so much?

>all I did was wish for this persons free will to be overwritten, why are they acting so erratically?
Gee, anon. I sure do wonder why…

>>220929420
You're wrong about her wish. That scene begins with him going into his apartment with a new stick and saying something like, "You'll do anything I say, right? I need you to make a wish exactly as I say," calling for her as you see her doing the jiggy behind him near the door.

Then in the bathroom, after the pills, he tries to chicken out and throw them up too, but you hear the distinct *snap* of Nikki using the extra stick he brought, which immediately takes control of him and ironically stops him from preventing his own suicide. It does pan to the stick after the fact, but that was a gratuitous extra emphasis in case some retard missed the audio cue of it happening. Apparently you missed both.

>>220929727
Why are you so retarded and chud-brained that you think it's some demon? He tried to kill himself but he changes his mind at the end, did you even watch the movie?

"I love you in all realities" - this line is trying to imply that his wish made an unstable reality. No fucking demon. When Nikki asks to be killed, that's the original reality NIkki peeking through. That's why there's a dead cat in the beginning. They're trying to write a loose magic realism + Schrödinger's cat shit. Not saying it's perfect but you have to be extremely media illiterate not to see all of this and think it's just some demon.

>>220929778
love is literally just a chemical reaction in the brain.
there was no reason for all that tacked on convoluted dogshit. There was no justification for the movie devolving into a demonic possession flick no matter how you try to skew it.

>>220929815
he has to be pretending to be retarded

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>>220929738
This. The director says there is no such entity, but the movie suggests otherwise.

>>220929854
Where did he say that?

>>220929777
Really?

>>220929817
everything your just wrote is completely insane and your own head canon. the movies director has never said any of that shit is even close to the intended theme. in fact he contractions you. please get help.
>He tried to kill himself but he changes his mind at the end
He didn't you retard. He was going to shoot himself but instead he decides to kill himself with the pills.
if she had made a wish for him to kill himself he would not be indecisive on the suicide method.

you are a retarded skitzo.

>>220929651
>>220929854
He basically is saying women are demons

>>220929878
one of his many interviews

>>220929884
She used to be a streamer

>>220928535
>>220929266
what's her ethnicity?

the phone call scene confirms nikki is being eternally tortured by being trapped in her own body. curry barker denies it.
>so basically he wrote the phone call scene just to cast himself as the operator even though it fucks up the entire plot

>>220929891
It's not my fault you're so dense you need the ending spoon-fed to you that you completely missed all the cues that she made her wish. He even tries to vomit all the pills, how does your retarded brain justify that? How the fuck did you miss the slow, obvious pan to the wish toy? Don't fucking say it's the original toy, why would he storm into the house at the last scene asking her "I need you to do something for me" without having bought another wish toy?

>>220929962
PLAP PLAP

>>220929817
OK so wait you're trying to say that the demon makes a wish like "i wish he'd come out of the bathroom and say he loves me" despite the fact that we never hear or see her say this.. but somehow hear the snap?
and so you assert he was going to chicken out of killing himself but is stopped?

OK.. and... what does that change if that's true? that accounts for like 2 seconds of the last part of the movie and adds fucking nothing.
if he just killed himself and decided not to chicken out and the wish was never made? that changes nothing too.
the last 2 seconds of the movie are not the issue. it's the entire fucking movie that's shit.

>>220929962
>beaner father
>australian mother
mutt

>>220929984
you dumb niggas are making me want to watch this movie just to see how dumb it is

also isnt there like a writing rule that if people come away from something with completely different or contrary interpretations that the writer failed in some way.

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>>220930136
Australians make cute mutts then.

>>220930136
Whites should racemix with latinos, but only the girls should live.

>>220930190
wtf her tits are amazing

post more her

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>>220930190
>she was a thirst trapping COD streamer who curry barker simped over so he casted her
game is game i guess

>>220929651
Then why was the real Nikki screaming in torment over the phone and begging Bear to kill her because something else had control of her?

>>220929266
>the tag line is

Your entire diatribe hinges on one small piece of marketing

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>>220930269
>were
She lost a lot of weight

>>220930589
How do feminists expect me to react when women post videos like this? Like, am I not supposed to view them as, like, kind of beneath me? Like, this isn't empowering, you're just a dumb whore.

>>220930589
second greatest webm to hit /tv/ after fiona dourif's ass in chucky

>>220929266
when he says
>more than anyone
that includes herself which bear ends up above everything and everyone in her world basically looking at him like a deity. Love for yourself is one of the biggest things that stops you from self destructing or being as pathetic to piss and shit yourself waiting for someone to come home and bless you with their presence or killing a girl and drawing all over yourself to imitate her so that bear will like her more. The wording is the most important part and people forget that there are extremely high paying professions to be as pedantic as possible to seal up any holes in contracts/documents. If you cant think of the implications of a poorly worded wish, sorry but its a genuine IQ issue. I even say this as someone who thinks wishing for love is reckless, selfish, and robs the other person of all of their agency. If you decide you dont love that person anymore you have doomed that person to pine after you until death and it will be a permanent thorn in your side forever.
There is an extremely high chance this wish plays out 1:1 irl as it does the movie

>>220930391
>COD streamer
?

>>220930659
she was a twitch streamer who streamed COD before doing movies

>>220930694
odd.

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>>220930694
No, she only streamed during COVID. I think she started in 13 Reasons Why

>>220929266
i never really thought about it too hard but why the fuck do women so often set up a camera shake something and then post it online. What the fuck are they doing?

>>220930845
Women are driven by the need for attention. Simple as.

I think I'm OBSESSED with Inde.

>/tv/ obsessed with ANOTHER mid ahh bih
There's plenty of hot bitches to simp over, why Inde? She's just another mutt

>>220928572
This has to be bait or you guys are fucking half brainrotted watch the damn film

>>220928535
even freaky Nikki whose single biological imperative is to love him starts getting frustrated and curdling against him a bit by the end because he can't accept her love - like 'this is your fault, this is what you wanted' comments dripping with contempt.

>>220929266
Nice.

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>>220930246
Hello, spanishbro.

>>220928763
She literally begged to die rather than be with him

I feel represented by Bear.

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>>220932046
>starts getting frustrated and curdling against him a bit by the end because he can't accept her love

I wonder if a demon would follow you throwing you coins if you ask to be rich but then freak out and refuse to accept the money.

>Bunch of foids sat behind me constantly giggling and talking throughout the film
Really drove home the "Women are evil" message. A true kino experience.

I don't think it was demon possession, it felt more like the subconsciousness trying to override Nikki to fulfill the wish.

Why did he keep so much tape in the house?

why didn't he just shoot her with his pillow gun the instant she started creepily moving around his room at night?

friendly reminder none of this would have happened if he never spoke to a woman
can't get into crazy situations if you just stay at home jerking off all day every day

Can you stop making threads about this movie until there's a torrent?
No-one but you shill motherfuckers have seen it.

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>>220929583
No, the movie points out he should have settled for the pig-ugly fat bitch he worked with instead of the hot chick he wished loved him.
The main character is normaloid mega simp, not an incel, but the movie itself is anti-incel

>>220933801
in my theater, two ghetto black girls with the fattest butts got up and walked out holding hands during the first "shit gets real" scene where she's screaming at him while watching him sleep. their boyfriends had to sprint out the theater to catch up with them.

>>220929266
>Nikki falls in love with him but gets too obsessive, possessive and smothering in an actual human and interesting way.
indeed, very funny that zooms lack the literacy to understand

>>220929296
>>220929696
>>220930477
not an agument

>>220929343
>>220929355
retarded to the point of possible gaslighting

>>220930650
simply retarded

>>220936788
>not an agument

Yes, it is. The tagline is irrelevant.

>>220930605
>expect

There's your problem

>>220936887
the tagline is not what his argument is predicated on. you failed to comprehend.

>>220928572
I don't think she was fucking with him, she genuinely loved him she just didn't understand most things because it seemed like she was created from the wish. When he first meets her she just copies him and doesn't really know what she was saying. Then she only gets upset when he stops being loving to her. She wasn't abusive to Bear, the duct tape on the door wasn't effective at all and otherwise she just acted weird but not abusive to him, the cat thing was clearly her trying to be nice and just not understanding how fucked up that was. She gave Bear everything he wished for and it still wasn't enough for hin.

>>220928535
why are people talking about a plagiarized twilight zone script so much? You really can just remake anything and sell it zoomers for money.

>>220937145
feeding him a rotten cat sandwich is evil

>>220937389
Old is new, zoomers don't watch old movies or shows, so you can steal anything from the past and it reads as fresh to them.

>>220935725
>Sarah
>pig-ugly fat bitch
You take that back right now, fren!

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>>220929437
he loved the cat and she was jealous of this

>>220929965
she doesn't need to be trapped 'in her own body' to be stuck in the pocket dimension that only lets you out when she sleeps

>>220930650
I actually think it would've played out different had he been a more dommy guy who'd better manage what he had and the expectations with which they'd carry themselves, but in the world where he was that domm, the story doesn't happen in the first place because he just fucks her day one cat night.

For the particular kind of pussy the narrative was depicting, yeah, I think it plays out like that.

>>220938281
>that only lets you out when she sleeps
no, her weird movements is because the real nikki is fighting the wish

>>220928840
>black guys examining empty office buildings
They're called thieves and can get violent if confronted.

>>220938296
Only partially

eg when she's doing bedtime crab walk shit with freaky nikki fully in control, I don't think the movie had a good justification for that besides farming quirk chungus horror movie trailer clips

>>220929502
>>220930650
i love my boyfriend more than anything else in the world and last time i checked i didn't shit myself

>>220938374
point and laugh, she doesn't love her boyfriend enough to not shit herself all day on the carpet!

>>220938374
>i love my boyfriend more than anything else in the world
That's the thing: you don't

>>220938413

i love him enough to actually do the stuff that he tells me to do, unlike freaky nikki.

>>220937706
This has always been the case. Humanity has like 500 stories that get retold endlessly with some contemporary spice. I don't know what the first variation 'wishgranting gone wrong' is. Probably 1001 nights. I mean Faust is essentially the same story.

What is more interesting is the contemporary spice. What are the anxieties of the current age?

For men it is that she will only have sex with you if a demon takes over her body.

For women it is that the men are narcissistic cowards who would gladly enslave you in hell in order to get what they want.

You know, fun.

>>220928535
What is with zoomers and stupid facial expressions?

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>>220938553
brainrot is their primary media diet and medium of expression.

It requires mass appeal and therefore lowest common denominator universality, and further regresses the mind till anything less is not noticed and anything not at least this potent doesn't go viral.

Thus
>LE SUPER CRAZY SMILE
and
>LE SUPER SADGIRL FROWWN :(((

>>220937840
I watched a CAM version but it's clear she's ugly and overweight and that was what the movie was trying to say, incels get disgusting ugly pig women if they're lucky while the good looking chicks get to ride the carousel

>>220939550
Did the camrip obscure the lower half of Nikki's body, so you couldn't see that she's already showing her age as a stereotypical Mexican?

>>220929565
There was no Nikki that loves him "more than anyone everyone else in the world".

To have that, you're either getting rid of Nikki and replacing her with an ass-puppeted "Freaky Nikki" who can satisfy the constraint, identity death clean slate, or not getting it

>>220930605
I mean, she's out starring in movies, you're watching clips of her in your underpants on 4chan. who really won?

>>220930138
>just to see how dumb it is
the movie is greats. i guess people are just bitching about plot holes

>>220928708
It was so impossible for nikki to love this incel that the wish had to make a demon posess her and pretend to be nikki and love him. really makes me think

>>220942485
the movie is jsut ok, which I guess it's a masterpiece in current era