Michael CHAD

>>220929206
It's hilarious because woketards now will have to defend Michael Bay lol

>>220929206
a friend of mine did lighting on a michael bay movie and he said the guy does a lot of coke in his trailer in between shots

>>220929261
>*SNNRRRFFFFF*
>MORE EXPLOSIONS
>MORE TITS
>MORE
>U
>S
>A

every director should do coke between shots

>>220929261
Holy based

>>220929206
>destroyed jeets
Yeah let me just read the CGI section of the credits

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>>220929233
>directors that have publicly condemned AI
Michael Bay, Guillermo del Toro, Ava Duvernay, Rian Johnson, Taika Waititi

>directors that have publicly endorsed AI
James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aranofsky, Peter Jackson, Robert Zemeckis, Stephen Soderbergh

Who was in the wrong here?

>>220929206
He sounds just like some of the guys we fired and replaced with AI 3 weeks ago at my workplace, lmao

>>220929325
Read the CG section for Transformers (2007). Bay's CG is unmatched.

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>>220929380
Out of curiosity I looked up the most recent CGI heavy movie Michael Bay did

Two surprises
>it was quite low jeet (but high Korean)
>it was ten fucking years ago

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>Hey, what the fuck do you think I am? I am a great artiste, with a capital T,I,T,S,A,R,E,G,R,E,A,T. You don't think I could make "good" movies? I went to school at Wesleyan, I studied under Basinger. I can make anything go triple platinum, anything. I could make just the poster of a movie and it would win every Oscar in every category every year, fuck James Cameron and his stupid boat. Do you know what would happen to this planet if I made a porno? That would be it, done, everyone in the world would drown in their own ejaculate. We'd have to Noah's Ark two of everything and start civilization over.

>Then why don't you make more serious movies, more enduring films? Why do you choose to make--

>Because Obama pays me not to, like a subsidies program, because otherwise everyone else would go out of business and California would have to be returned to the Pacific or sold to the Chinese.
>The movie is called The Transformers, ok?-- as in I transform you from unemployed to employed. I'm a motherfucking jobs program, I'm like the New Big Deal. It's a movie about giant robots, what the fuck do I needs peoples fo? Because: Obama needs to cut the space program, so I put Buzz Aldrin in a movie. I gets him paids. John Malkovich is a versatile actor, an artist, but he's not getting paid shit for any of his crap. He calls me up-- boom. Payday. John Turturro's been in 20 movies since The Big Lebowski. Name one. Can't. SAG calls me up, boom, his kids go to college. Now he can make shit like Somewhere Tonight and tell everyone he's not an actor for the money.
>I own Hollywood, I control destinies, there's nothing I can't do on film. Not only did I give Frances McDormand a job, I got that bitch to look almost sexual. In 3D. Do you know anyone else who can do that? You see Fargo? Did you want to fuck her in Fargo? No. But I guarantee you someone in America saw T3 and jerked off to Frances. Fuck all y'all.

>>220929399
>(but high Korean)
Based

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>it doesn't create
>it creates imitations

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>>220929334
our based sin city Mexican boy Robert Rodriguez is very pro ai.
fuck retard Michael bay. Alita is a much better movie than transformers

>>220929537
this, what a fucking tosser

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>>220929537
>imitation == creation
This is your brain on nigger semen and HRT.

>>220929206
He would have a point if man-made cgi effects didn't already become the laziest, hugly jeetslop you could possibly imagine.

>>220929334
I'll wait for /ourguy/ Nolan to make the final verdict.

>>220929652
Bay doesn't hire jeets.

>>220929206
AI?.. Give me explosions on top of explosions

My god. I've created a Michael Bay movie

>>220929233
obsessed

When a rich person tells the poor not to worry about it. Worry about it.

>>220929599
Yes, even creating "an imitation", whatever that means, is also an act of creation.
Countless works of classical & lauded art are "imitations" of something else, from nature to other preexisting works of art. One of the most commonly-repeated arguments about the nature of art is LITERALLY summarized in the phrase "Art Imitates Life".

Stop being a retard obsessed with nigger semen.

>>220929206
Of course michael bay is a ching chong agent given how much he's being funded by them

crazy how these AI companies have raised hundreds of billions scamming boomers with some matrix multiplication next word predictor with 10,000 word prompts baked into them to fake intelligence

>>220929402
>I went to school at Wesleyan, I studied under Basinger.
imagine being basionger's second favourite student after joss whedon

>>220929812
>scamming boomers
You really think Investment Companies, Megacorporations, Military Contractors, etc., are just "Boomers"?...

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>>220929677
It looks like Nolan doesn't like CGI, but also speaks plainly that it's just because *he* doesn't like it (in contrast to Tarantino's "I'd rather stick my dick in a Nintendo")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIefxbSJT8

>I think any tool, whether AI generated, whether it's computer-based or whatever, it's all another tool for filmmakers to create with, and so as long as we have faith in our human beings creating with these tools, the medium of film will continue to develop in exciting ways.

>My preference to not use computer graphics is really a mechanical one, it's an artistic choice, because I feel that computer graphics, incredibly sophisticated and versatile that they are, and extraordinary work has been done with them, they tend to feel a little safe to me. They tend to play in the world of animation.

I give props to Nolan because there was a lot of shit in Inception that would have been much simpler to shoot with CGI and instead he went "Nah, build the entire fucking set inside a giant mechanized tunnel so we can spin it around while the actors are standing in it"
But then again he also says he's never owned a cell phone or written an email

PS nigger nigger nigger jews did 9/11

>>220929599
The AI isn't the one "creating", retard, and nobody claimed it was. The human-being USING the AI-based tools to create something is the one creating something.

>>220929334
>Guillermo del Toro, Ava Duvernay, Rian Johnson, Taika Waititi
if this is the winning team then i dont want to win

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>>220929916
Why do we hate Del Toro, again?

>>220929898
if the user is creating something then why can you not copyright AI generated images

>>220929206
There's nothing right wing about being pro AI. Conservative LEADERSHIP is all in on it because it's plagued by people with businessman mindsets, this doesn't make it a conservative value

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>>220929599
Michael bay did not create transformers. only copy the concept for a movie.

checkmate luddites

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>>220929951
mostly his tweets lol

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>>220929972
AI and data centers are arguably the most right wing things there are. This is why you can't go anywhere on social media without seeing right wingers posting AI slop memes.

>>220929206
how is this an own for rightoids?

>>220929274
based as fuck

>>220930024
Rightoids are the ones who use and obsess over AI the most.

>>220929999
i really want this country to get nuked

>>220929951
he's a huge retard when it comes to social issues.

>>220929960
Because the law is gay and reactionary and 10 years behind the times.

>>220929951
he hates white people

>>220929999
>UMM...M-...M-MUH EBIL DATA-CENTERS
I live how this stupid shit became the left-cuck talking-point of the month over night.

>>220929960
because artists feelings got hurt and the judge sided with faggy crying artists

ai is the best thing happened to the world

>>220929999
You only think this because of Elon Musk being a fucking retard. Most people using AI these days are coomers, jeet scammers, and deepfake propaganda psychos

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>>220930168
Just because my reproductive organs are on the inside, instead of the outside, doesn't mean I cant handle whatever you can handle.

>>220929851
unironically yes

>>220930051
>Rightoids
>obsess over AI
Yeah, OK, queer, that's why they're the ones constantly fearmongering over it and forming into a modern-day cult to screech about it.

Is he upset that all of the Elliot Page parodies say directed by Michael Bay?

>>220929999
twitter is an ai company.
Instagram, YouTube, Google, Facebook, all of them are full ai operated.
your smart phone runs on ai.

I really wish that ai haters stopped being hypocritical and stopped using ai companies.
delete your twitter. delete your YouTube account. avoid Google maps, avoid WhatsApp. avoid Amazon.

if you hate ai. live by your anti ai stance.
get an old flip phone.

>>220929999
>you can't go anywhere on social media without seeing left wingers impotently shrieking about muh AI
Fixed that for you.

>>220930175
you only think musk is a retard because you disagree with him politically.

>>220930228
and it's ridiculous because they cry about "generative ai" but twitter and Instagram are the biggest "gen ai"companion the world

if you hate ai so much why the fuck are you using ai companies daily stupid dumb assholes......

>>220930218
In b4 20 shrieking replies from leftists posting nonsensical essays on why they're somehow NOT hypocrites for using AI-based services 20 times a day while caterwauling about AI and crying about someone else using it to make a meme, kek.

>>220929999
After looking at this xirson's profile pic, I'm pro-datacenters now.

>>220930248
I actually don't, but him doing stuff like getting involved with The Boys discussion is blatant manic retardation

>>220930268
the reply I get is:
"WE HATE AI ART BECAUSE IT STEALS FROM PEOPLE. STEALS FROM ARTISTS"

But the terms of service for twitter or Instagram says that anything you uploaded to their apps can be used to train their ai. by uploading on their apps you are giving permission.

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>>220930175
Musk had two great ideas and 65,000 terrible ones which means he had about two more great ideas than 99.9% of people

>but he didn't invent them
lol Henry Ford didn't invent cars either
Thomas Edison didn't even invent the lightbulb

>>220929972
>There's nothing right wing about being pro AI.
Nobody but leftists ever claimed that there is.
However, NOT being a retarded luddite screecher and NOT refusing to use & develop incredibly promising new technologies ARE right-wing, and being willing to take advantage of AI, among many other things, covers both of those categories.

>>220929999
because bipartisan isn't in their vocabulary

>>220930280
>I actually don't, but him doing stuff like getting involved with The Boys discussion is blatant manic retardation
They had a parody version of Musk on the show. I'd say it's within his right to comment on it.

>>220930308
There's also the fact that "stealing art" is an incredibly tenuous thing to claim an AI is doing, even IF something you made becomes one piece of 5 billion pieces of information that it scans in order to have data to draw from.
If something you drew or a photo you took becomes 0.000000000000000000000000000001% of the total Data that an AI uses & draws from...have you really been "stolen" from in any meaningful sense? You have a better case for claiming that when you walk by a bakery and smell the biscuits being baked there that you are "stealing" from the bakery. At least that involves actual, physical molecules being removed from the area by somebody else.

What's double hilarious is that all the people suddenly crapping themselves over copyright law are inevitably people who are 100% pro-piracy and doubtlessly called anybody who opposed it a "corporate boot-licker". What, so you can pirate the corporation's music, movies, TV shows, software, etc., with no better justification than "Well they can't stop me...", but they can't """pirate""" scans of your artwork or photos with the same justification? Lmao, they can get fucked.

>>220929972
>>220930322
being against ai is exclusively left wing because they cry about the water and the environment.
but they have no problem with the huge amount of water being wasted to grow cashews, peanuts and avocados.
some farming takes 10 times more water than ai stuff.

but do you ever hear anyone boycotting avocado or guacamole?

>>220930409
these people probably have not paid for music in 15 years. everyone is addicted to Spotify or YouTube.
ai is theft, but let me download all my music for free by using "YouTube to mp3" websites

>>220930439
I also refuse to believe that a data center is "consuming" that much water, I.E. turning it into anything that can't be used and reused in turn.
The fuck do computers need fucking water for? For fucking cooling? That shit's still usable.

>>220930397
that was one example. he also ruined his own AI by le epic trolling all the people complaining about bikinifying women

>>220929334
AI is based as long as all the creatives you trained your model on are getting fair and well deserved royalties

>>220930439
This

>>220929999
I love how the anti-AI people cite Data-Centers "raising everyone else's power-bills" because their local government is cutting deals with these companies, as if that weren't an indictment of their local government's corruption rather than the data-centers. You know, the same local governments that we trusted to handle localized voting in the 2020 Election, and we were all assured that there was no corruption involved and that a local government could NEVER be pressured or bribed into ever doing anything that it wasn't supposed to?

>>220929999
nice quads

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>>220930467
>The fuck do computers need fucking water for? For fucking cooling? That shit's still usable.
This element of it bugged the hell out of me
It turns out it's because the cheapest way to do massive cooling is to run the water through until it gets hot and then just dump it and replace it
I imagine at some point something that WILL be legislated is the big centers will be required to have more efficient closed loops

Something I've learned out of this whole scandal is that golf courses use so fucking much water. Some jackass pointed out that the entirety of Google's infrastructure uses as much water as 43 golf courses, and my thought was "How many fucking golf courses are there? It's a lot more than 43, right?"
It turns out an 18 hole course can eat 300,000 to one million gallons a day

>>220930467
what I heard from a pro ai person is that the water to cool off is recycled.

what really harms water is the construction of the data center itself. building it damaged and darken the water in the community

>>220930187
tired meme

>>220929960
>arguing via legalism
"The Law" also makes it legal to disarm law-abiding citizens in spite of the Second Ammendment and for Blue Cities to literally harbor illegal immigrant criminals.
The Law isn't always just or moral, and it is not the authority on morality.

>>220930562
>It turns out an 18 hole course can eat 300,000 to one million gallons a day
Holy shit that's fucking staggering. Who is eating those utility costs?

>>220930588
Robocop is an old movie you know

>>220930467
One short ai movie to make takes 5 gallons. One picture usually half a gallon. Data centers chew it up, making the parts, the structure then cooling. It’s basically a giant oven that makes shitty pictures

>>220930562
but like I was saying.
when you use Google maps you're using ai. how much water is that.
posting a YouTube vid uses ai to scan it and for moderation.
your android phone runs on Gemini ai from Google

outside the "shitty" ai pics. how much water are you wasting just by using your phone? just by using YouTube or Gmail

that's the problem, every anti ai person points at ai art and screams.
but what about everything else

>>220929206
Bay I kneel.

>>220929206
I will keep using AI only to piss off people like him.

Sorry but not sorry.

>>220930175
Cunt, every rightoid culture warrior retard on the internet spams AIslop thumbnails for all their worthless dogshit videos. All their social media accounts are fucking inundated with gay, ugly AIslop memes, they repost constant AIslop garbage of shit like Trump and Vance singing YMCA or other dumb shit, the fuck are you talking about?

>>220930950
Based

>>220929334
Add David Lynch

>>220930977
You're pretty mad. Calm down.

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>>220929334
Sorry bros, the king settled it

>>220930977
correct
and every ai hater always has pronouns in their bio or a trans flag or a furry profile image, every fucking time comrade.
they have "all cops are bad" slogans or the antifa flag or "down with the patriarchy"
every single time. what's on your bio sister?

>>220929233
>only woke people hate AI
no one is buying this bot psyop. fuck off

>>220931035
she/xir/herm is probably one of these people: >>220929999
the ai haters are so stereotypical

>>220931093
It's not a psyop. Go find me a single right wing anti-AI protest. It's all leftists and troons.

>>220931093
he touched a nerve ah xister?

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>>220929334
>James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aranofsky, Peter Jackson, Robert Zemeckis, Stephen Soderbergh
They also probably publicly endorsed 3D and HFR as the future of cinema when both turned out to be worthless fads.

>>220929999
>AI and data centers are arguably the most right wing things there are
Why?

>>220931245
capitalism

>>220929334
Creative directors vs untalented hacks and CGI merchants

>>220930950
lmao ok jeet

>>220931385
how's the transition going xister ?

>>220931385
ok, ma'am

>>220929206
He has a good point. AI needs human creations to innovate from. I say just lock human artists in a warehouse and force them to produce material for AI to train from. That way everyone wins!

>>220929206
Based Michael Chad Bay causing a lot of indians to seethe ITT

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>>220929206
All the retarded cope about AI is truly pathetic. Everyone knows its over.

>>220931503
or do ai locally in your computer and only feed it your own art work. or your own photos.
some cartoonists were doing that.

>>220931123
Conservatives and socialists are working together in my city to protest a proposed ai data center lol. Nobody likes this slop

>>220931784
get rid of your smart phone immediately

>>220931882
But will you admit you were wrong tho?

>>220931903
I'm as wrong as you are good looking sweaty

>>220929206
What if im an original creator who wants to create something original with ai? Checkmate you brain dead nepo beast hollywood faggot

>>220929886
Based, thread should have ended here

>>220929886
people shit on ai and call it slop.
but those same people eat all the cgi shit that stuff like Marvel puts out.
they go crazy for cgi avatar and avengers and shit.

ai haters are mentally ill. Michael bay is a hypocrite

>>220931933
Huh? What you mean?

Aren't movies an imitation of reality?

>>220929261
I would probably need to as well.

>>220929233
When you're right, you're right

>>220932180
Yes

>>220929334
>Guillermo del Toro
The only director there that isn't a dogshit factory.

>>220931141
>james cameron
>probably endorsed 3d
Who's gonna tell him?

>>220929749
it's called a copy
humans imitate, machines copy
or in ai's case, steal

>>220932164
are you beautiful? then I am wrong if you are, beautiful
it's simple.

>>220932318
Michael Bay is right there.

>>220932336
The Avatar movies are shite.

>>220931669
AI can't even answer who won the 1978 Super Bowl correctly lmao

>>220933135
TWO MORE WEEKS

>>220930625
>Who is eating those utility costs?
>who's paying for google's utilities???
Google??? lol wtf anon?

>>220929206
“It doesn’t cre-*explodes*..”

>>220929233
Its about damn time.

>>220931784
opposition to an AI data center is not the same as opposition to AI as a while

This is typical of Michael and his huge calves

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>>220929206
Absolutely based.

>>220929206
>it doesn't create
>it will create
make up your mind

>>220929206
>It doesn't create, it just imitates
We let the chinks get away with it in literally everything they've ever made or done in the last 2,000 years. If you're not willing to nuke China to prevent imitation, I don't want to hear you bitch about AI being an imitation. Simple as.
>But duh datacenters
...Still consume less electricity and oxygen, and burn up more potable water and fossil fuels than the Chinese people do. You'd eliminate a full-on third of all our problems by just turning one nation into radioactive vapor. Two thirds if you follow up with India. Either shit or get off the pot.

>>220935419
>>Muh Chyna
Get new material you dork

>>220935669
>Wants to bitch and whine about problems but doesn't like hearing actual, practical solutions
Okay. Its still not going to stop AI, you're going to get it whether you like it or not and it absolutely does not matter whether you bitch about it, start a movement, boycott it, or burn down the infrastructure that sustains it. Society is going to do it with or without you and that's how it is. Society does not, in the same vein, consider China and India existing to be a necessity, so if you're serious about solving the problems of overconsumption, pollution, and imitation destroying employment, you'd really be better off to pursue the Nuke China angle. The moneyed classes do love a good war, its not like they have to go fight in it and they certainly can take advantage of it. They'd probably give you your blessing.

Being a serious threat to AI is just going to get you stuck in a hole forever to rot, you'd be standing in the way of the tool they're using to return to a premise of not having to negotiate with labor because the labor aren't people, the same standard we had when thirdies weren't people. They're going to do it whether you, or anyone else, likes it or not.

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>>220929261
hollywood was better when everyone was doing lots of coke in their trailers between shots.

>>220929334
>Peter Jackson
I don't know what the fuck happened to this guy.
You go from him and his team picking out the Shire shooting location and letting it overgrow to capture the right vibe to the Hobbit where he was desperately pushing 48 fps and now this.

>>220929380
You picked perhaps not only his worst display, but the worst example of cgi. Tranformers was unwatchable. You couldn't tell where one robot ended and where the next was starting.

>>220929402
Uh, you have a call from thr based department

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>>220936109
It's ok, sars. We movies now.

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>>220935014
Based anon going insane from AI existing

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>>220929334
Kek all the anti-AI directors are retards.

>>220929402
>Obama Derangement Syndrome
Lol. It's been what? 9 years? Yet you still malding over Obama. Is this what winning is like?

I don't give a shit about AI, and I don't think anyone that's dedicated to their craft should. The only people that bitch about it, it seems, are in the trade for either the money or fame, and are most likely lacking talent.

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>>220929206
basado bay

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>>220929233
Not a big deal for them. It's not like they have a real ideology.

>>220936394
Filming LOTR broke him the same way Apocalypse Now broke Coppola.

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>>220936109
the ai battle is basically indians Vs trannies
that's what the ai battlefield would look like, indians fighting trannies.

>>220937796
the most vocal ai haters were furry artists that sold furry porn and some loli shit. those are the angriest at ai. just furries losing commission money

>>220929334
>Darren Aranofsky
Always correct

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>>220929206
>CHING CHONG PING PONG
Here's your $.50 chang

>>220929206
When you're an orphan and a legend

>>220932318
He’s the biggest dogshit factory of the lot.

>>220929233
Woke always winning.

>>220935419
>2000 years

Hey dumbfuck, China barely had any contact with the West for most of those 2000 years when they were inventing shit. Say thank you for gunpowder, dork.

>>220936394
The shire got overgrown because peter got sick and the shooting schedule had to be pushed back. It was the third hobbit movie that broke him though, apparently he was only getting 3 hours of sleep a night which seriously messed with his health.

>have no fear

What you need to fear is the world where people's standards for entertainment drop to third world favela level and the imitation slop AI-powered hollywood begins churning out results in record profits

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>>220938063
This, Eunich nation thread.

>>220938138
lay down the testosterone pills girl. you're hulking out ma'am.

>>220938202
what are these niggas doing, ive never seen a setup like this

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>>220938063

>>220938268
Indians and right wingers are a match made in heaven.

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>>220929334
Forgetting someone?

>>220938356
He only publicly supported AI in private conversations with noted drug addict Natasha Lyonne.

>>220938230
it’s a click/engagement farm for internet astroturf and algorithm manipulation

>>220938340
kinda like furries and trannies joining to fight ai

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AI is about to drop a deuce on (((Hollywood)))

>>220929233
Why would woketards not want to defend Michael Bay

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>>220938729
This

>>220929206
I kind of like Micheal Bay.
The Transformers movies are pretty bad, but they have nostalgic value now, time capsules of their era, and Micheal Bay seems like a decent filmmaker regardless.

>>220938903
First Transformers is good and a time capsule of the mid/late 00s.

>>220938938
I've never really liked the use of CGI in the Transformers movies. Blurry whirlwinds of metal with zero weight.
But yes, they'd be nostalgic to watch now.

>>220938379
Thats even more honest, since you know he wasnt bullshitting investors.

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>>220929233
>it's woke to hate on ai
false flagging /g/ tranny spotted

>>220939395
Leftists and trannies are the #1 haters of AI.

>>220936394
Jackson has always been obsessed with technology, the trilogy just happened at the perfect time for it to mesh with practical effects. He was one of the earliest users of AI in Hollywood, They Shall Not Grow Old used it extensively

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>>220939415
nice try tranny, artist trannies may be against it tech troons absolutely embrace that shit

>>220938201
>What you need to fear is the world where people's standards for entertainment drop to third world favela level
ship has already sailed on that, just look at how popular garbage shonen animes are in the west now. its almost the same as mexico and south america

>>220929206
>It will make people lazy
>Man who heavily relies on CGI

>>220929951
the shape of water. dude. sperg foid fucks a fish. no thank you. plus he is an absolute fucktard on twatter.

>>220929334
None of these directors have made good films ever or, if they did, it was during the last century.

>>220929206
So he just repeated the same, basic opinion that most people have about AI? Stunning and brave. Let's here what he has to say about trannies.

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>>220929206
can normies even tell the difference between AI and non-AI?

>>220939486
they drew that bimbo absolutely delicious

>>220929233
Pain and Gain is one of the best studios films of the 2010s and I will die on this hill

>>220938102
that's Taika WaReddit

>>220938102
Maybe you just have shit taste.

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>>220929334
include Lynch you coward

>>220940174
he's right.
ai is incredible. it's like having Jarvis from iron man

>>220939608
CGI still requires hundreds of underpaid indians rotoscoping robot balls for 18 months. AI just requires typing "michael bay explosion big booba cinematic" and pretending you're an auteur.

>>220940174
Lynch has never missed.

>>220929886
Interstellar has an abundance of shitty CG

>>220940975
Name three (3) scenes.

>>220929206
He's right. Slopfags take pride in being incapable of making things. Actual NPC mentality

>>220941092
You lost, tranny.

>>220941113
>npc's dialogue tree has been exhausted and it's stuck repeating the same phrase for the rest of the game

>>220929206
Based

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>>220941142
he says while parroting plebbit's false cope. the point is AI enables you to make things. people who don't have a idea in their head to visualize find that very triggering. so scared of a little prompt box you have to lie about what it can and can't do. sad!

>>220941233
holy fucking shit bro......

you just made me realize, some people that hate ai are the same that don't have an internal dialogue. holy fucking shit man

that's why they hate it. they literally cannot create

>>220942222
Quads of truth

>>220942222
Whatever helps you feel better than others, degenerate slopguzzler.

>>220942298
You got him good, xister!