I don't get why like Gen-X and Millennials seem to passionately hate this movie so much. I mean yeah it's kind of disappointing and half-baked, but it's one of the most aesthetically distinctive moveis ever made to where I feel like it's had an influence over a lot of stuff intentionally or unintentionally.
I'm 40 and I loved this movie.
>>220936162You really need to grow up and stop trying to force everything into yet another gayass console war
Robert Williams is giving off way too creepy vibes in general. On and off camera. It's like ick itself solidified into a human being. Really childish and immature vibes through and through.He was somewhat tolerated as a jester/pet type of character way back in boomer times but thankfully he offed himself on time.
Nobaldi has watched this film vro, and nobody has a passionate opinion on it
>>220936162I've never seen it but I always thought the cover looked creepy. I remember always getting wigged out whenever I saw it on the shelf at blockbuster so I always picked a different movie.
>>220936232>Robert Williams is giving off way too creepy vibes in generalIf you've ever watched this film, Fisher King, and especially One Hour Photo he really dials into this part of him and bares it. That's also why I think the latter two are easily his best performances.
>>220936162Haven't seen it since I was a kid but the combination of Robin Williams plus the weirdness of the plot makes it extremely uncomfy in my recollection
>>220936162I'm in my thirties and saw this as a kid and loved it. It was weird and funny and the robot girl was cute, and Robin Williams is the fun uncle of my generation. Heil Toys.
I'm 46 and I loved this movie.
>>220936257He does creepy well, but ironically his best performance was in Good Will Hunting which was him at his most wholesome.
Unironically one of the most visionary movies of the 20th century.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7BrxfHsHc
video games being associated with evil then the game having dogshit video game tie-ins irl is kind of funny
>>220936257Also Insomnia.
I liked death to smoochy
>>220936239They were it was featured on a lot of vhs rentals at the time i remember the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF0yWXZjKt0 I think we did rent it as a result and it was enjoyable, had a good heart and some cool sets and probably did really help LL Cool J have a film career he was great in it.
>>220936366I always wanted to play the war video games from Toys
>>220936295>his best performance was in Good Will HuntingI never cared for it personally, Along with Dead Poets Society I found it to be sentimental and shallow. Along with his shittier comedies they represent a lot of what I dislike in Robin Williams even though I really like him overall.
>>220936162I always get Barry Levinson and Barry Sonnenfeld mixed up.
>>220936409A lot of people were turned off by Robin Williams in Patch Adams. Actually that entire movie was a real deal breaker.
>>220936162This movie is very unique and creative and extremely underrated. The reason it's completely forgotten is that it doesn't really fit into any particular genre or demographic, not quite a kid's movie, not quite a movie for adults, it's a comedy but has a weird tone that sets it apart from other comedies of the era. It went over people's heads.Also the song "Closing of the Year" is a straight up bangerhttps://www.youtu.be/j-MAqVsOLFI
>>220936443The reason is that Robbie Williams is a very specific type of actor that you need to really be in the mood to watch for any length of time. And most people are not in that mood often.
My dad still listens to the soundtrack to this movie.https://youtu.be/paoX7MkKOf8?si=huC-fPm8l1KN-lcV
There is no single circumstanceThat ever took a final chanceAnd made itself a thingThat you could see and touch foreverThat always looked the same from every angle and never cast a shadowThat would change the way you thought about your very beingThat what you were seeingWould always beWould always beWould always beWould always be the truth
>>220936429I think most people alive loved him from something but there wasnt a period go bye when he wouldnt do something that would polarize people, i mean the dude went from Flubber to Good Will Hunting, then What Dreams May Come to Patch Adams in two years. It was Jack i think that reads like some kind of hellscape, and ive never managed to sit through Mrs. Doubtfire
>>220936162Crazy fucking bitch
>>220936162Fun factSam Levinson used to date Ellen Barkin who was much older than himBut that's not even the craziest partEllen Barkin debut movie Diner was directed by his father Barry Levinson in 1982 when Sam Levinson wasn't even born lol
I think Robin Williams already annoyed a lot of people even by the time this came out
>>220936580Bicentennial Man was a great one to add to that list.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8UgHNjPYZM
It’s gotten so bad that a movie that was considered forgettable slop in the 90’s is now being re-evaluated.
>>220936640He definitely did. The question to me is were there people who really liked him? I mean more than a tiny irrelevant amount? Who were they? Women? Children? Fat goofy guys?
>>220936640I think Hook was the first film that people took a dislike too, Popeye was weird but Hook was i think his first critical pasting in film. I dont think he's that bad in it just that its stupid and boring.
Overall he belongs to this totally dated Billy Crystal gamut of comedy, except even more extreme.It's like his entire personality is tailor made to be a class clown for boomers with toothless jokes and cringe self-debasing humor.A personality made for late night talk shows where he motormouth babbles incoherently about stuff nobody really cares about but he keeps the "energy up".He comes off as someone always at the perifery of a friend group, who never really gets invited anywhere but shows up anyway.
>>220936706I really liked him. I'd always watch something if he was in it in the 90s and 2000s.
>>220936744You mean critical>panning
>>220936162>dude the production designwhatever, it's any annoying movie
>>220936162>I don't get why like Gen-X and Millennials seem to passionately hate this movie so mucThey do? The few times I've showed it to people they at least thought it was funny and kinda liked it.I don't remember them feeling passionately about it one way or the other.
>>220936533My dad used to listen to Tori Amos regularly on our car trips. Happy Workers is burned into my mind.She's super hot but even as a kid her way of kinda moan singing made me a little uncomfortable
>>220936706Boomer's loved him in Good Morning, Vietnam, but probably not many of those i think watched that much Mork and Mindy idk. Dead Poets Society was another great comedic/tragic/serious movie which got oscar nom's for him and a lot of them saw in 1989. Then you had Good Will Hunting in 97, i mean if you stick to a select few of his films you could end up thinking he's some tragi/comic god, which he was. He just made some absolute shit along the way.
it came out at a time when being mediocre was worse than being outright bad
It's manic coke energy.
>>220936162it's number 6 on my top 500 movies. people who say it's bad don't appreciate production design or camphttps://letterboxd.com/dingoatemybabi/list/the-top-500-movies-of-all-time-incomplete/
>>220936804film is a visual artform, kiddo
Gay uncle vibes.
>>220936162>the movie was bad>but it looked good>why do you dislike itBecause it was bad.
>>220936997It wasn't that bad.
>>220937026It really was.
>>220936954keep looking at the screencaps then
>>220936682He was really good in The Birdcage and i hear good things about Insomnia and One Hour Photo, he plopped out some oscar winning turns with some other delightful stuff such as Toys but he did shit the bed i think quite a few times.
>>220936925Very interesting list, very eclectic, some films I absolutely hate (TDK) but far more that I love and are very surprised to see on someone else's list>Dodge City>Broken Arrow>Bend of the River>Invasion USA>The Adventures of Robin Hood>All Ladies Do It>The Little Mermaid>Babyface>King of New YorkPretty fucking based, Errol Flynn is my all-time favorite actor btw. I would hang out with you IRL
>>220937035It really wasn't.Plot was coherent, production design was visually distinctive, good soundtrack, acting was decent.It's a "bad" movie because it's a weird movie that doesn't really fit into any marketing niche.
>>220936698Happens a lot. John Carpenter's The Thing was hated when it came out, but didnt get a big cult following till the 90s and beyond.
Robin McLaurin Williams was born on July 21, 1951,[16][b] at St. Luke's Hospital in Chicago, Illinois.[19] His father, Robert Fitzgerald Williams (1906–1987), was a senior executive in Ford's Lincoln-Mercury Division.[20][21] His mother, Laurie McLaurin (1922–2001), was a former model from Jackson, Mississippi, whose great-grandfather was Mississippi senator and governor Anselm J. McLaurin.[22] Williams had two older half-brothers: a paternal half-brother, Robert (also known as Todd),[23] and a maternal half-brother, McLaurin.[24] While his mother was a practitioner of Christian Science, Williams was raised in his father's Episcopal faith.[25][26] During a television interview on Inside the Actors Studio in 2001, Williams credited his mother as an important early influence on his humor, and he tried to make her laugh to gain attention.[27]Williams attended public elementary school at Gorton Elementary School in Lake Forest and later Deer Path Junior High School.[28] He described himself as a quiet child who did not overcome his shyness until becoming involved with his high school drama department,[29] while friends recalled him as being very funny.[28] In late 1963, when Williams was 12, his father was transferred to Detroit. The family lived in a 40-room farmhouse on 20 acres (8 ha)[20] in suburban Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, where Williams attended the private all-boys Detroit Country Day School.[28][30] He excelled academically, served as class president, and was on the school's wrestling team, but was also bullied for his weight and would play at home by himself.[31]With both parents working, Williams was partly raised by the family's maid, who was his main companion.
most people would’ve watched it on vhs so the wonka on cocaine aesthetic would be lost leaving just a very dull script moralizing about video games in a universe where military toys were the most popular for all of toy history.
>>220937095>>220936886
>>220936162I was a kid when I saw this, and I barely remember it now. But I do recall even I thought the "MILITARY BAD!" message felt really beat over the head. The whimsy aesthetic just tries to distract you from the generic boring plot.
>>220936543That's kind of fucked up for a throwaway new wave song for a movie.
>>220936232>Robert Williams is giving off way too creepy vibes in general. On and off camera. It's like ick itself solidified into a human being.Really? Because it always seemed liked the people who complained a lot about Robin Williams turned out to be the biggest creeps.
>>220937223Ah the good ol MJ defense.
>>220937037i will continue to watch the moving pictures instead>>220937083i also have him at number one, though based on his quality as a leading man and his projects rather than personally liking him1. Erroll Flynn2. Tom Cruise3. Bogie4. Burt Lancaster5. Dustin Hoffman6. Jackie Chan7. Chuck Norris8. Ryan Gosling9. Charles Bronson10. Bob Hope
>>220936429>A lot of people were turned off by Robin Williams in Patch AdamsI feel like that movie is rightfully hated because it encapsulates the very worst of Williams doing his sentimental dramedy schtick to the point of parody. Especially funny that the actual Patch Adams not only outlived him but really hates the movie.
>>220936761>Overall he belongs to this totally dated Billy Crystal gamut of comedy, except even more extreme.That's a great way to say it, lolRemember the last time Crystal hosted the Oscars and he started one of his song and dance routines? It felt like they'd thawed him out from the 80s and he hadn't noticed the passage of time.I can't decide who I dislike more, Williams or Crystal. Williams at some point in the past made me laugh, Crystal was just a bore.
The messaging in the movie feels mixed. Tori Amos's Happy Workers is effectively a song that creates a mockish comparison between sex work and factory work, and the reverb of "It's the perfect job" being performed in D minor comes across as mechanical and betrays any sense that the ones participating actually enjoy it, just that they have to act like it's enjoyable.This is portrayed along one of the most satirically sterile work environments where even vomit has to be scientifically evaluated for enjoyment, that for as graphic and inappropriate as it is, the war general's efforts are ironically often in more humanizing and relatable than the toy factory itself. Even as the trolley drives though a painted corridor of clouds, hills, and grass, it never escapes being a corridor. The song "Closing of the Year" reinforces this with its lyrics "If I can't bring you comfort then at least in bring you hope", applied as Santa abandons his reindeer to fly over a modern New York landscape in a prop plane totally divorces the factory from anything that would be considered actually nostalgic or wholesome.In the end, the plot, set design, and themes constantly fight each other. Which would be great if it were trying to be Kafkaesque, but at no point does the plot itself suggest or suggest its aware that the Toy Factory was ever in the wrong. And this omission never seems to be intentional.I love the movie, but I'll be damned if it's not a goddamn fever dream.
>>220937356Both of them are extremely bourgeois and inoffensive. Perfect for marketing purposes.
>>220937356>I can't decide who I dislike more, Williams or CrystalCrystal is unwatchable in anything other than Monsters Inc, Williams on the other hand has been in plenty of good and in some cases great movies and given great performances, just not in his most popular films.
>>220936162>Gen-X and Millennials = faggot youtubersI hadn't thought of this film since it came out until you started making thread about it.
>>220937261The real patch adams hated the movie because what he actually accomplished was nothing and the movie paints him as a saint
>>220937247>though based on his quality as a leading man and his projects rather than personally liking himI mean, why else would you like an actor? Although his personal life is pretty interesting, as was his estate Mulholland Farm, which that faggot Justin Bieber demolished
>>220937026Then why did you say it was?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyEqzK4kC84literal kino
>>220937063The entire last decade of Williams career was just easy paycheck family movies. RV? Wild Hogs? He was even talks for Mrs. Doubtfire and Jumanji legacy sequels before he got sick. And the Jumanji sequel got handed to Dwayne Johnson instead.
Robin Williams isn't funny. He's fucking annoying.
>>220936162I quote this movie all the time>"that's an awfully big penalty for hitting a united nations truck"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E45mrBlovPk
>>220936232>Robert Williams is giving off way too creepy vibes in general. On and off camera. It's like ick itself solidified into a human being.true, when he killed himself i wasn't surprised at all because i saw it coming, seriously in all his movies he gives suicidal vibes (the movie where he plays the role of the US president was a prime example of this) he also had a suicide attempt scene in that one movie about getting tricked into believing he had a son from some whore
>>220937356>>220937432I loved Billy Crystal as an Oscars host, I thought he was pretty great in his time. Though yea, his movies, like, what has he done?>The Princess BrideGreat movie, he's in it, quick, covered in make up, not really "his" movie, but a big break for him for sure.>When Harry Met SallyProbably his strongest, best and only vehicle where his style pushed through. >City Slickersadequate, but he's replaceable. Rick Moranis or John Candy could have done this movie.Then like... .everything else is voices, cameos or completely unwatchable trash. Like omg, why did Billy Crystal keep getting movies?! His film career truly is awful.
>>220938254Billy Crystal is basically "we got Woody Allen at home".
>>220938449>we got Woody Allen at homeHe was in Radio Days for a second, but again he wasn't crucial to that film being good in any way
>>220936162I hate this movie but admit it was prescient about drone warfare.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRbX3gDba8
>>220938219You're a retard. He killed himself because he found out he had an incurable degenerative disease that would see him lose control of his mind and body slowly, and he decided to leave with some dignity.
>>220939658>see him lose control of his mind and body slowly, and he decided to leave with some dignity.I mean how is this different from his regular career trajectory?
>>220939658>ACK-ing yourself like a troon>leaving with dignity
>>220939719>I mean
Robin Williams had no "ma".
>>220939743what did he mean by this?
>>220939743Don't you have like a thread to participate in on /v/ where you complain about something a woman has done?
>>220939773I asked a question a little while ago about the use of fūrin, those little bells with paper hanging from them that are using in transition/beat shots in anime and hentai, and wondered why seeing them was so common. No one who responded used this term, but "ma" seems clearly to be what the purpose of these shots are between scenes.
i had this game as a kid. it was fuckin weird just like the movie
I’m gonna watch this for the first time tonight cause the cinematography looks nice
>>220936612Just. Jewish. Things.Stop noticing.
>>220940106The cinematography is great. The humor is good. The music is nice.The plot is meh. But worth the watch for the scenery alone.
>>220940090i missed this era of licensed games
>>220936162imagine a modern Toys reboot remake reimaging, because we can't have anything original anymore
Toys is incredibly easy to sum up though, dumbass zoomer. My friends would have described it thusly as children: >great set design >looks beautiful >actors are good>shame they didn’t come up with a plot
>>220936162Arguably the best comedian the world has ever seen, decided to dedicate a majority of his film career to boring social commentary movies that barely highlight a fraction of his comedic talent, gee i wonder why people didn't like it
>>220940579>that barely highlight a fraction of his comedic talentI don't know what you're talking about, Toys was one of the cases where Robin Williams put all his effort into making it funny
It was weird having a whimsical looking movie about toys starring a famous comedian and yet it's not even remotely funny.
Something about him always makes me depressed.You can tell he keeps the tempo of his humor always up because he's masking his sadness. Very clown-coded behavior truly.And as soon as the laughs stopped he offed himself.
>>220936162I don't know anything about the movie but it's a damn good promo/title cover. It always got my attention in the movie store but I never ended up watching it.
>>220941047>But Doctor, I am Robin Williams!
>>220936232You should follow his lead. You insignificant little shit.
>>220940951I thought it had a few funny moments.General literally shooting himself in the foot.Robin screaming "IS IT TRYING TO EAT ME OR MATE WITH ME!?"Robin asking the kid how many points he gets for blowing up ambulances and he responds completely deadpan "500".The toy spy robot getting launched by the booby slingshot.It's got plenty of funny moments, but they're all surrounded by the fact that everything else is intentionally awkward.
>>220936162I haven't watched it since I was new, but I still hate it.
>>220939125Only a little. As far as I'm aware, Ender's Game beat it by at least 15 years and was a lot more poignant about it
>>220936257Remember that fake Batman trailer with him as Dr Strange. That could've worked.
The weirdest thing about “Toys” is that it had one DVD release in the USA, back around 2001, and is now out of print. The film is not available to buy or rent on Amazon Prime, and there has never been a 4K release, or a Blu-ray release. This is for a film that starred Robin Williams, and Michael Gambon, and L.L. Cool J, and Robin Wright Penn, and Joan Cusack, and which was directed by Barry Levinson. The film received Academy Award nominations for Art and Costume design. Yet for some reason, the film has since been “buried”. The film wasn’t perfect, by far, but the set direction and costumes were amazing. Is there some sort of legal issues with a new release?
>>220941324>Is there some sort of legal issues with a new release?IDK, when I watched it it was on Netflix probably a decade ago or so and it stuck with me because my parents would groan every time I scrolled past it and I watched it to piss them off. I remember liking it but I feel like it's been buried because it's just not very popular.
>>220936162I always confuse that movie with Heartbeeps.
>>220936162I never saw it, people told my parents it was creepy or weird or some shit so they thought it was like a horror movie. I still haven't seen it either.>>220941377Now that was a seriously bad movie. A true product of the time.
is this the film that was like the windows green hills and blue sky wallpaper irlYeah it was a psyops
>>220936162It wasn't a good movie but it still sticks in my mind for surehappy worker...
>>220936474Just read through the thread - I think this anon nails it. I feel like you can more easily chuck on a Jim Carrey movie more easily than a Robin Williams (non dramatic) role movie.To add, have you ever played with a dog that seems chaotic, like it may turn and bite you but never does? Robin has that kind of eclectic chaotic energy. Even in parts in movies where he's sad it is this performative sadness, like there is a layer of meta realization within the character.Dudes a unique vibe that fits a mood.
>>220941047>You can tell he keeps the tempo of his humor always up because he's masking his sadness. Very clown-coded behavior truly.good point
>>220941396Definitely weird, has the aesthetics to be a current day horror movie if it really wanted, and I'd go as far as to say it was ahead of it's time for that. But its uncanny to be playful instead of unnerving if that makes sense. It's just a surreal comedy that's barely family friendly enough to avoid being a dark comedy.
Robin Williams is goated in this household and everything he touches is gold
>>220941922even Flubber? or Man of the Year?
>>220941973>FlubberPure kidkino>Man of the YearDogshit but we probably wouldn't have Zelensky as the president of Ukraine without it
>>220936257I liked his portrayal of The Professor in the Secret Agent adaptation.
>>220941396>I still haven't seen it either.It's a very strange film that's hard to describe. The whole thing looks and feels like an early 3D game on PC or PS1 in the sense that it has all these large sets in vast, empty setting with exaggerated, angular buildings and costumes with a smokiness that reads like distance fog. It's a rare mainstream film that's very dreamlike and discombobulated, with a storyline about an eccentric, mentally ill Willy Wonka-type character that owns a toy company in the Idaho Palouse fighting against the CIA/[etagpn that's trying to take over his company and weaponize the toys he makes to use against children and civilians in the third world.It's strange because it's essentially an art-house epic trapped in the body of a 90s kids movie, with Williams' very uneasy and at times disturbing performance being emblematic of this.As a result it's not necessarily a great movie, but it's a very interesting and very unique one that's hard to compare to any other.
>>220936162>>220936196Gen X/Millenials do not hate this movie. It was reviewed poorly by older people. Also reminder that there are mentally brainwashed 4channel.org users on here RIGHT now that are blaming everything on Millenials and they're going to quickly to blaming Gen X because of their subconscious conditioning.
>>220940106Tell us what you think of it.
>>220936366Funny too since Robin Williams was an irl videogame fan who named some of his kids after videogame characters
>>220936162Back in the day I didn't know it was a movie. I randomly had the SNES game. It was hard as fuck for no reason.
>>220943413They made tie-in games like that deliberately difficult so kids can't beat them in one day. The idea was to have kids keep renting them over and over.That's how a lot of consoles games made money back in the day.
>>220936612Diner is a great movie
>>220943458I'm sure of I were to play it now it wouldn't be hard. It was always just funny to me how this game called "Toys" with happy peaceful menu music was ridiculously hard to the point that I never got to level 2 until a few years later. Didn't play much after that since level 2 was basically the same as 1 just harder and I was kinda bored of it.
>>220940313Me too, especially ones that were based on something that was only relevant for at most a year or two, if that. Even today people will play the two DuckTales NES games because they're good games and DT has proven to be a timeless franchise, and even within the past couple years there was a Rugrats game because Rugrats also has an enduring popularity. But there's something particularly nostalgic about something like a Cutthroat Island videogame, which would only have been made, and only have been remotely relevant, for a 6 month window spanning late 1995 and early 1996, after which the only people who would care about it would be kids who fished it out of a bargain bin because it was $5. Playing mediocre-to-shitty licensed games based on stillborn IPs really feels like you're stepping back in time.
>>220936682>Bicentennial ManI don't get why people hate this movie
>>220943527I decided to watch a playthrough of it. Holy shit. I remember getting farther than level 2. I got to the last level. That flying section was BULLSHIT. Never got past it.
>>220936841Is your dad gay?
