>dozens of movies made about 9/11 from government narrative>tfw it’s commonly accepted that the govt planned it all>not a single mainstream movie about inside collusion What’s taking so long? There were plenty of movies critical of the bush admin. Don’t tell me we have to wait until all “survivors” are dead
>>220938427It really doesn’t make any sense. There’s less risky ways to make even more money.
>>220938427The X-Files spin off "The Lone Gunmen" had a episode about the USA government trying to crash a plane onto the Twin Towers to start a war, but that show also had a episode with a super genius monkey who speaks like a Britong and a episode with midget wrestler, so take that as you will
>>220938427Wonder who makes all the movies, hmm
Idk why the collapse of the towers are some giant point of contention. Like, isn’t it possible that the govt did cause 9/11 AND the towers fell from the fire? Like they can convince two different groups to suicide crash into the tower but had to also make the towers collapse through controlled demolition because…reasons?
>>220938530Steel beams turning into dust and blowing away in the wind is not contentious.
>>220938479The Lone Gunmen were so lame. Literally normie-friendly conspiracy theorists.
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>>220938649That’s just what it was like back then. Conspiracy theories became minmixxed like everything else because of social media so now everything is le jews it’s frankly tiresome.
>>220938686is there a no napping rule in your jew tunnel
>>220938427The Canadian actress Amanda Fix celebrates her birthday at ground zero
>>220938700*yawns*
>>220938427You're like the flat earthers who never realized it was a joke or worse, the kind who thinks this is edgy in 2026. I'm purposely omitting the third option which is that you genuinely believe it, because anyone who can type words and comment on the internet has, at the very least, the bare minimum of cognitive capacity necessary to avoid such a conclusion.
>>220938686>That’s just what it was like back then.Except it wasn't; you literally had the militia movement at its peak in the mid-90s. But there was no way they'd actually touch that topic after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, so they served the TV-friendly conspiracies instead.
>>220938649Their personas were even more watered-down in the spin-off. They were heckin' patriots of the NCIS variety. Byers' college roommate being a tranny was also a major plot point and heck they didn't care.
I hate how 911 trootherism has become the default position on hereIt's just so stupid. Just because the mainstream lies about things doesn't mean that every conspiracy is automatically correctThis one obviously isn't. You should investigate conspiracies with the same degree of skepticism you apply to the mainstream. Most of them are even stupider.
>>220938530Apparently some people think steel needs to melt before it loses its structural integrity.
>>220938904>But there was no way they'd actually touch that topic after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995The first movie came out in 1998 and the opening scene is an elaborate inside-job OKC-style bombing. That wasn't a coincidence.
>>220938427You expect Hollywood to make a movie about Israel blowing up the world trade center?
>>220938952Cool, why did World Trade Center 7 collapse even though it wasn't hit by a plane?
>>220938959It doesn't, it merely needs to soften and thus bend.>>220939056Because it was hit by debris from the collision, causing a fire that burned 7 hours uninterrupted and eventually softened the supports, which were rated only to withstand 4 hours burning.Now you tell me, if it was a demolition, where were the explosions?
>>220938966>The first movie came out in 1998 and the opening scene is an elaborate inside-job OKC-style bombing. That wasn't a coincidence.Yes, but it was just a front to divert them from the aliens. One of the better episodes was when Mulder had to infiltrate a militia group.
>>220938479are you saying the X-Files predicted Robbie Williams?
>>220938904>But there was no way they'd actually touch that topic after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, so they served the TV-friendly conspiracies instead.there were a bunch of episodes involving militias
>>220938530I personally think it's part of a greater government conspiracy to discredit anyone that questions official narratives by disseminating bogus conspiracy theories. Then, when someone starts to question major events (i.e. 2017 Vegas Shooting), you get labeled a conspiracy theorist, compared to people who believe that the moon landing was faked / controlled demolitions on 9/11 and your credibility tanks
>>220938952It's called motivated reasoning. It effectively prevents or bypasses critical thinking and deductions. The principle of parsimony negates most conspiracy theories. The number of assumptions necessary for a conspiracy to be true typically outnumber the number required for them to be false.
>>220938952i always ask myself "can the same goal be achieved with way less risk and far easier, with greater reward even?" and the answer is usually yes
9/11 happened because stripping all the asbestos from the twin towers would’ve cost more than everything on the island combined
>>220939023>>220938544>>220939232>>220939056Yes Ivan we know this is another pol raid thread.
>>220939232>greater government conspiracyYou're giving far too much credit to the government which is not one thing but a number of individuals who are generally terrible at keeping secrets. That, coupled with a relentless, hostile fourth estate (media) who are constantly pulling at every single loose thread for a story and things like WikiLeaks and the internet, all but guarantees that any significant, wide reaching govt conspiracies will be non-existent or at best, short lived. With one party, non free press countries like China, Iran, or N. Korea, then it's definitely possible.
>>220939232>Vegas ShootingThis is just like 9/11 though. There's no actual conspiracy. A motivated baddie, bent on destruction took advantage of weaknesses that, hitherto, nobody really bothered to worry about because it was outside the scope of imagination. Pearl Harbor is another. Warnings dismissed and 20/20 hindsight make conspiracy a convenient scapegoat.
The glowies have arrived for a lowly X-Files thread. Intredasting.
>>220939232This all started with OJ murders. People who think he didn’t do it were labeled as crazy conspiracists but with newer facts, it’s not like that
>>220939793No Ivan it didn't start with OJ. Yes Ivan I know you're about to conflate that with da jooos and 9/11 to pretend your screams about da jooos are rational. Yes Ivan we know this is another pol raid thread.
>>220939445Perhaps my choice of wording regarding a "greater" conspiracy was unwise. Realistically, big government conspiracies are unlikely for all the reasons you described. However, disinformation campaigns by home or foreign governments have existed for years, and it wouldn't take a lot of resources to accomplish. All it takes is a couple individuals in the intelligence community to formulate and propagate the lie initially, then the public will do the rest. Plenty of cases on this website alone of this.>>220939572>A motivated baddieThat's the main issue with the entire event: Paddock had no known motive for what he did and that's still unknown to this day. Some of the details as well have me wondering why, such as why he had 14 ARs equipped with bump stocks to commit the shootings, and also that his house was broken into a few days after the shooting, when it should've had greater security due to the ongoing investigation (although nothing was taken as far as we know). Now, does this mean there was a massive conspiracy theory behind this? Probably not. But even mentioning these aberrations gets you filed in with the loonies, when I think they're worth exploring. It wouldn't be surprising if a lot of this is simply due to poor law enforcement work, but we'll never know.
>>220939572I'm more sympathetic to the Vegas thing because it's not built on outright easily disprovable lies (building 7 being a controlled demo) and the official story is rather uninspiring. >>220939950This is reasonable. Yelling about 'jet fuel not melting steel beams' is not. We live in an era of misinformation in which the mainstream sources routinely lie. Something like the Vegas shooting, there just isn't that much there and it really seems there's much they aren't telling you. It's hard to know either way. So in that sense it's rather useless to speculate about. But 9/11 there's lots of information and it actually can be investigated. It's routine for the media etc to lie about motives and politically relevant things. But that is a world different than thinking they blew up their own buildings or whatever.
Seems like a gigantic failing of American Counter-Intelligence at the very least.
>>220940193Counter intelligence knew what was happening. Look up the Phoenix report. They were getting antsy because it was a bunch of brown muslims which was very problematic, so turned a blind eye and went off looking for nonexistent white right winger terrorists instead. Literally. Political correctness caused 9/11.
Very /tv related comrade. Definitely no rubles have been spent by the russian government to buy a block of mod free time for pol bullshit.
>>220939056>Planes hit two massive fuck off buildings right next to it, throwing flaming debris around>Catches fire>Big huge fuck off buildings collapse, causing localized tremors equivalent to a small quake>More fires>Fires aren't combated due to aforementioned big fuck off buildings collapsing>Loses structural integrity and collapsesGee I wonder fucking why
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