I wish I brought pepper spray to school

>public school plebs

bullying is mostly a middle.school thing
by the time youre in high school all the bums have dropped out and everyone else is too focused on getting into college to care what anyone else does

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>>220972632
Only for the kind of losers who used to become Hollywood writers.

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Nah.

Lads in jackets with Greek letters on them

I feel like it became more common because of movies, like kids watched it and thought
>this is how we should act
White schools in the 90s in South Africa were horrible for bullying, I do remember that.
Like, the system Elon Musk came out of would fuck up anyone.

>>220972632
not even close
>t. rural high school goer

>>220972632
do american children really get beaten bloody in school?

>>220972632
It's wild we just can't replicate the look of older movies shot on proper film. I can immediately tell that's a late 90s film. We took all this shit for granted when even mediocre films looked really good.

>>220972826
I mean we can, we just need to dig out the old 35mm cameras.

>>220972632
it did kind of suck ass for a while there and then I dropped out

Sometimes but it was still better than the alternatives like modern zero tolerance horseshit. The percentage of kids suffering serious consequences from bullying like actual suicide has always been slim compared to the amount of people negatively impacted by cracking down on bullying. The problem is grown ass adults taking the issue of kids being mean way too seriously. Kids are mean because they're dumb. Just punish them and move on instead of uprooting the entire school system to try and wipe out meanness from the world. Even for kids who were relentlessly bullied through school, most of them still end up graduating and getting over it as adults. It's such a stupid fucking issue to blow up into anything more than "kids will be kids." Every politician needs a platform though and insulated suburban moms never shut the fuck up demanding action on things that don't matter while the rest of our civilization slides into the gutter.

>>220972632
I bet if it was football players and cheerleaders being bullied on a daily basis, the school admins would have cracked down on that shit quickly.

>>220972632
Yes but it was rarely the "most popular" kids doing it like it was depicted.

it is a corrective measure done by peers to make abnormal kids be normal

ending bullying is one of the reasons why the world is as fucked up as it is now

>>220973309
Without abnormal kids, there's no civilization.

>>220972718
>by the time youre in high school all the bums have dropped out and everyone else is too focused on getting into college to care what anyone else does
patently wrong

The meanest schools are the darkest. White schools mostly had ostracization and cattiness, "bullying" morphed from physical aggression which was never tolerated to just rude behavior. Blacks however have schools that just hold them for prison so it's a free for all jungle fight and yes they're giant melee brawls

>>220972632
Depends on the movie. Most people just got made fun of or shoved around a little bit. Actual fights went off school grounds but would never be anything more then a scrape up. Didnt see a knockout until college I graduated before columbine, partied a lot and mostly avoided it.

>>220973404
Outliers are ultimately the people who make any notable contributions to art, culture, and science, yes. Almost every "normal" or popular person I knew in adolescence was a huge fucking faggot. It's probably why I'm such a borderline schizoid now.

>>220972718
Kek how wrong can one anon be

>>220972632
you could literally make a 100 item starter pack of all the things you had to know to not get bullied as a gay in the 90s
>no piercing right ear
>never listen to dance music
>tons of cars you can't own
>never wear any pink/muave/lavender/lilac
>don't do a fag sport like volleyball
>don't swish your hips too much walking

yes there were literally like dozens of things you had to keep in mind to not get bullied in the 90s

Bullying still exists but it’s more online and texting than at school. Fights still break out though just like they would at any public place

>>220973488
>White schools mostly had ostracization and cattiness, "bullying" morphed from physical aggression which was never tolerated
lmao delusional

physical aggression against anyone too weird or gay seeking was absolutely allowed in my lily white high school in Texas. to the point where the principal would seriously talk to your parents when you had a split lip and say "well... have you thought about getting him to act less weird?"

>>220973155
It's really not the jocks, their scholarships can get easily revoked if they're caught bullying. Admin and local law enforcement will cover their asses on small misdemeanors though. Bullies are usually a combination of weasel dudes, isolated pricks who just lash out and cheerleaders.

>>220972718
>by the time youre in high school all the bums have dropped out and everyone else is too focused on getting into college to care what anyone else does

so you grew up in a poor area

I remember having so many friends across different cliques in my high school because I basically grew up with everyone and got along with anyone. Then I moved to Florida and got shit on day one by some random dudes in the lunch line. Was a big wake up call to keep to myself more

>>220972818
I grew up in NJ and bullying never got physical

>>220972632
I had some bullies. I was also a spaz though. And even worse I was obsessed with "killing them with kindness" so I would end up being nice to my bullies and making them my friends. Only it was less friends and more I became one of their stooges or only stooge if they didn't have any. So I would do the bullies bidding, laugh with the bully, and if there was no one around to bully get bullied.

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>>220973642
Even if no one infringed upon those rules, they would still pick a loser to bully

>>220973634
I'm sorry that happened to you Anon.
>>220972632
Anyone else remember swirlies? Kek those were all the rage when I was in school. We called them chunky dunkies if there were turds in there when we shoved some nerd's head into it.

>>220973691
I'll bet he did but you're a grown man living with his mom so you're not doing too hot either. Now get mad

>>220973743
>swirlies
zoomzoom here people unironicly did that?

>>220972632
I was a bully and now I feel shitty about myself whenever I think about the stuff I did in high school.

Kinda wish I could apologize to some of the guys but I feel like it would be weird to seek them out.

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>>220973681
Texas is more traditional.

>>220972632
In my school it was mostly the losers bullying other lower ranked losers, probably out of frustration. You didn't really see the popular well liked kids engage in that kind of thing.

>be slightly autistic and have completely uninvolved parents to correct my behavior
>get bullied for being weird

Looking back on it now, I can see where they were coming from but at the same time some of it was downright malicious and it still affected me today. It also opened my eyes to how little the teachers actually want to deal with it and sometimes even join in.

Writer/theater dorks were never noticed so they always force it into their scripts to get back at the cool kids for being popular.

>>220973681

Is this what happened to you?

Every school ever develops a social hierarchy with 5-10% kids in the bottom so the rest of kids can feel good not being them. The difference is kids are often not allowed to just not attend unlike adults who can call in sick or just leave any group whenever.

>>220973816
My favorite part is that children are first introduced to these cruel jungle rules, but once you turn and others turn into adults, there are suddenly 1000 different laws to prevent anyone feeling even slightly inconvenienced. So why bother with the childhood environment being like that, if it no longer mostly applies in adulthood?

Of course adults can be cruel, but unlike kids, adults have in theory limitless freedom of/from association.

t. >>220974005

>>220972632
I don’t know. Movies set in high school make it seem like it’s still the 1980s. It’s a lot less cliquey nowadays. When I was in high school (not too long ago), everyone was on social media, everyone played fortnite, everyone was into marvel movies. There’s no reason to bully anyone because you would be picking on a kid with all the same interests as you. Anybody who didn’t fit the mold usually just stayed quiet and sat in the corner, and you wouldn’t pick on those kids either because of >>220972724

I was the prime bully target (fat nervous kid who wanted to please everyone) in middle school, but it was never physical. I got into one actual fight I think. It was mostly just ostracization and name calling. I don't think I've ever seen physical bullying to that degree anywhere but isolated cases that show up on the news.
Might have been more common before the 2000s, but I doubt it was ever anywhere as common or extreme as the average movie makes it out to be.

>>220973781
You can see the pussy getting damp in the foreground.

>>220973488
>>220973681
There's some middle ground because at least in moderate physical fight environments you can actually fight back every now and then, which can be important for boys.

If there's a zero tolerance environment for fights where "you are just as wrong if you fight back" or any public bullying or conflicts is suppressed, then it evolves into how girls bully girls but boys do it. So what happens is no one might do or say anything to your face but other kids just decide behind your back who you are and what you have supposedly done or said.

>>220973724
This book is trash btw

To be fair, Elijah Wood has a very punchable face, even i'd bully him. Fuck, just seeing the thumbnail makes me angry.

>>220972632
Yeah, there were massive assemblies to prevent it and such, but now that bullies dont keep the weak in check you get all the weird shit you see in society. Trannies wasnt a thing in the 90s for a reason.

>>220974226
She was suspended for a week for laughing iirc.

>>220972632
I was bullied in elementary, middle school, and when I went to highschool. someone tried. I immediately rag dolled him all over the hall ways.
People learned not to fuck with me.

>>220974278
Fuck you, Elijah Wood is awesome.

>>220974418
Wasn't the whole reason he even reacted that way was because the school said you cant have an American flag on your person or some shit? It wasnt so much they were being bullied for being a weird trans kid, it was the fact they were allowed to have their gay flag but you weren't allowed to have the American flag

>>220972632
They forgot guns existed in the 90's despite being american

>>220973136
someone find this anon and dunk his head in a toilet

>>220974278
Eat shit. Elijah Wood rules

>>220974617
He does, but he leans far left and that isnt cool, but at least you know he isnt a Hollywood pedo

>>220972632
I've seen fights and people get tasered, but bullying? I've only saw that like three times and it only involved girls.

>>220974314
yeah but would you rather have the mentally ill having kids and passing on their genes or coming out and chopping their dicks off?

>>220974267
Why? Bad science?

>>220972718
Same here, Norway

>>220973816
>how little teachers want to deal with it
your sperg behavior causes disruptions. thats the long and short of it. stop the behavior, it stops the disruption, they can go back doing their jobs
imagine all the times you saw kid being a retard shit in public and the parent didnt do anthing about it. did at any point you think, damn, if only i could step in and say something. now youve got 30 of these little fuckers and the worst one causes the bulk of the issues. id say some harsh things to that kid too. especially if it reinforces normal behavior for the other 29

>>220974663
Oh, let me make it clear, bullies need to be released back into the schools to prevent the weak proliferating as it is currently. Gays and trannies are whatever when they were a silenced minority who kept their weird shit behind closed doors, but today? Mass bullying needs to return, as an ecosystem doesn't work when predators are removed from it, all the god damn grass gets eaten up otherwise.

>>220974068
That's the other thing I've noticed about being an adult. I can choose where I work. I can pick the industry I think suits my personality. If I don't get along with someone at work I can move companies, tell my boss, tell HR, etc. I have options.

Kids are forced to attend schools. They can't switch schools, classes, or tell the teacher or principal. They just have to sit there and put up with it. If they lash out, they usually get a harsher punishment.

It really is no wonder why we see more school shootings than workplace shootings. If I was getting bullied relentlessly at work I would just leave. What is a 13 year old kid supposed to do? Just endure it because the adults won't step in.

>>220974494
Yeah they were trying to replace the American flag with the fag flag during Covid. You can see the fat one is wearing a mask around his neck. Never forget the shit they tried to pull and now act like it didn’t happen. They are cheating right now in California again. Pratt and Hilton will magically and mysteriously loose to a black dyke that let half of LA burn down while she was on vacation.

it always bummed me out seeing him eating lunch all alone

>>220974255
Schools should allow for a little violence. Two boys getting into a fight over a girl does not warrant getting the police involved. They should pick up trash for a week after school or something.

>>220972632
middle school it was brutal for me.
not so much in highschool.
I think it's a middle school thing when kids come of age into puberty's
it's kind of immature actually so by high school age people are trying to act more adult. at least when I was younger.
this could be a thing in college in some areas for all I know but I only experienced it in middle school and didn't see anyone treated this way in high school.
Films hyperbole everything

>>220974935
Middle schoolers are at that age where they have the emotional age of a child but observation of and adult so they really know how to hurt you.

>>220974944
off topic.
the question was Does this happen in American Schools.
people always derailing subjects on /pol
total autism cockfest around here lately

>>220972632
I must have gone to school with really nice kids because there was basically no bullying and when it did happen if was between girls. If dudes tried to do what they did to frodo here people would absolutely step in.

>>220973681
>well... have you thought about getting him to act less weird?
parents will say this to their kids when they tell them they got bullied and then wonder why they never open up to them about anything. Meanwhile, you got karens who will always defend their “precious little boy” no matter how much of a faggot he is

>>220974955
that's probably the psychology behind it. or at least part of it.
if you're doing this shit past 8th grade you're still a man child and need some growing up.
maybe the jocks collectively will do a quick 1-2 move on some geek by hanging them by their underwear but the brutal beatings usually stop.

>>220974974
Shut the fuck up, jew.

>>220975005
oh no.. I made you boo-boo face.
:(
Seethe some more

>>220973743
I would genuinely kill someone for doing that to me. Maybe that's why I never got bullied

>>220973781
That tranny looks like he should be on the football team. what a waste

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>>220975040
Not going to get caught in your web, you jew fuck.

No, it has an obvious lag between the actors and script writers growing up but common themes are easy enough to keep it feeling current. The bullying you see in 90s /tv/ was a distillation of memorable experiences from the 70s and 80s.

Physical bullying got cracked down on in the 90s and a lot of that was because of what happened in the previous decades with kids outright dying after the beatings they received. You won't see deepfakes and other zoomer bullshit that I read is going on until the 2030s.

>>220973816
>It also opened my eyes to how little the teachers actually want to deal with it and sometimes even join in.

Yeah it's pretty shocking looking back on it on all the things teachers ignored when I was at school and lot of the one's who threw their weight around with kids who obviously wouldn't say anything back. Looking back it's obvious that a lot of them were barely out of school themselves or just bad at their job but for all the shit they talk about parents they really do need that pressure for them to be decent human beings.

I saw one kid steal the birthday money off another one and the gym teacher refused to do anything because the dude denied it. The guy was a total POS.

>>220973816
I'm sorry to hear that anon

>>220974944
What would having the mayor of LA in Israel’s pocket achieve? Don’t be an ass.

>>220973781
Uncalled for yet well deserved

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>>220974105
Lol, how pathetic.
Me and my friends would have bullied your entire school full of faggots.

>>220974820
Yeah and the worst situations are if both the school and home feel like you are in a hostage situation, because someone younger than 16yo or so has very few legal ways to choose anything and obviously more so with 12yo and younger.

They sometimes do the thing where the outcast kid is moved to a different school and by that point it's already a part of their (developing) personality that they are an outsider or not wanted person and it rarely helps unless the next school is somehow 180 degrees to the previous one. I guess that must happen at least sometimes.

>>220972632
yes but not as much fist fights. it was mostly people complaining about being excluded without realizing why

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>Finally an interesting thread on /tv/... quick, post /pol/shit and derail it

I remember my friends already having their lunch at a table outside so I went in to grab something and when I was walking out the doors I could see a kid dump food on another kid’s head. The other kid got up and started punching the other so fucking hard in the face I swear it was echoing against the building. I was still like 40 feet away and my friend at our table spotted me and just jumped in the air arms raised and yelled “YESSSSS, ANON!!!!!!!!!”. He was so happy i witnessed it kek

>>220974820
And to add to the fact that you can just leave work (you might set some short-term financial penalty for doing so, but if you were getting bullied horribly every day then...), almost every single country pays you money for staying at home outside of workforce. At least for some time, at least if you have spent your savings already etc but if you are comfortable enough with very minimal lifestyle, you don't even have to leave home and can leave as a hermit as an adult.

Not saying that it's ideal and hardly any person wishes that "I wish I was an adult already so I can just sit alone at home and not associate directly with anyone", or I guess some people actually wish to do just that... But it just shows the extremes. As a kid you have practically zero freedom of/from association, as an adult you can just hermit maxx or on another extreme even move to 50-200 different countries or in USA different states to live there.

>>220975139
>all the stacys at my school became teachers or nurses

That's why they don't do anything. They hate the bottom tier boys and love to see them suffer. One girl I went to school with was merciless, usually to other girls, and would bully them into eating disorders and self harm. I saw her years later and thought maybe she's change and grew out of it. Nope, still the same megacunt she was in high school. She's now a teacher and there's no way she doesn't play favorites with the more popular kids.

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>>220974974
>>220975153
>>220975243
Dont take the bait, some anon brought jews messing with stuff and now they are trying to stir the pot. Focus on the topic. Were bullies as bad as movies suggests. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Unpopular take here, but anti-bullying campaigns should stop. Bullying needs to be brought back to end degenerate behavior.

>>220974932
Well yeah it depends, but in places if the kids are clearly underage it's not a police issue to begin with (the kids or rather the parents still have to pay the bill if for example one kid has broken nose or broken glasses), but possibly a social services issue, but your point stands. Or I guess they do call police to settle who then call the social services. Not trying to be semantic, just remembering out loud.

>>220975355
100% agree. Taken that away has resulted in some unfortunate affects on society as a whole.

>>220975243
threads like this, the “this is what they took from you” threads with the pic of the sleepover or shopping mall footage, and the fast food movie tie-in nostalgia threads were pretty common like a year or two ago
Never see them anymore, but then again I hardly ever come to /tv/ anymore because it’s shit. The offtopic threads are definitely more enjoyable than the ones on /v/ because /tv/ has way more normalfags whereas offtopic /v/ threads are just basement dwellers larping

>>220972818
you know how xers and boomers act like millenials and zoomers are soft? there is like a scaling nigger behavior in their youth that has degraded over time, my dad used to laugh telling me about all the fights and nigger behavior like breaking windows and shit he used to do when he was in high school, then he would look at me like I had a stick up my ass when I wouldnt smile while he shared these stories, hes like 68 for reference

>5th grade 1996
>every recess I'd get bullied by this one kid for months
>week of Halloween I was carving pumpkins with my grandfather
>next morning I hid a pumpkin carving knife in my lunch box and threatened the kid with it on the playground
>got a week suspension but the kid stopped
I realize this sounds like a things that didn't happen for 500 but it did. I'm glad I didn't actually hurt the kid and it was a pretty stupid thing to do. I don't really remember the reaction my parents had.

>>220972632
It was but the movie and TV plots were obviously cranked up to be more shocking/entertaining.

The golden rule for bullies was to make sure their targets always looked like they deserved it. Physical attacks make that pretty hard to believe so they only did that kind of stuff sparingly, same with theft or outright destruction of expensive stuff. It still happened but not constantly. Mostly it was just neverending demeaning harassment. If someone looked weird it was easy to convince people to just laugh it off when you made fun of them, then you just did that every single day and if they ever cracked and tried to talk back they usually just looked even weirder so there was no end to it. If they went to the faculty the answer was usually "why do you care if they're calling you gay? are you actually gay? no? so it doesn't matter?" or something like that.

>>220972632
If Europe had bullies it wouldn't be California 2 today.

>>220975384
offtopic threads on any board is usually better than many of the on topic threads anyway.

>>220975355
>Bullying needs to be brought back to end degenerate behavior.
Its never degenerate if Chad does it.
This is a retard logic.

>>220973781
This how suppressed closet faggotry exposes itself btw
Guarantee you he does gay shit in the locker rooms under the guise of "hazing". Same thing with frats.
>look how straight I am everyone!

>>220975419
You really believe the entirety of Europe is London/Berlin despite the rise of the far-right everywhere, right? Must be so simple to have your entire worldview informed by 4chinz.

unless the administration is really good the only way to stop bullying is for the parents to call the police. many school systems have a very narrow definition of bullying and won't investigate anything unless mom and dad bring the hammer down. if your kid is being bullied and administration isn't being reasonable about it after one or two face-to-face meetings then you need to go over their heads.
t. middle school teacher

>>220975510
Arachnophobic, huh?

>>220975397
That sounds interesting because 5th grade age (around 11yo?) sounds like a time to "just do it" for those kinds of things which you just forget later or can't remember fully and just without thinking about it. Like if you did knife the kid it would have been a psycho story, but because you basically just showed the knife it was just something you happened to do.

>>220975499
If chad does it, then its a normal and thus socially acceptable, pretty easy concept.

>>220972632
In retrospect I was a bit of a bully in high school or took part in it which I feel guilty about now. I'm not American and physical bullying was rare, but we relentlessly teased each other to the point I made at least two friends cry
Although two girls used to chase me when I was around 11, forcefully pin me down and kiss me. That was the closest to regular physical bullying I experienced, if you could call it that since it did piss me off at the time

>>220975539
"We now need to officially address how our kid is the outcast and everyone needs to listen and stop bullying our outcast weirdo kid" okay. At best the in your face bullying can stop and the kid spends rest of the school years with 0 friends.

Now, if it's physical like the kid has broken ribs because he's jumped on every week on the school yard, then that's just straight out assault, not "bullying".

>>220975539
I've heard that schools lose funding for bullying so they aren't going to report it.

>>220972632
From what I remember in my small town high school in Nowhere: The only two kinds of kids who got bullied were:
A. The kid who unfortunately got caught in the crosshairs of the school bully psycho (though that psycho, from my school, died by 23; don't recall if it was suicide).
B. The kids who acted like obnoxious faggots. Example: I do not know where this idea that DBZ was ever considered cool came from. It wasn't. DBZ kids were the original Naruto hall-runners and got told to knock that shit off. Sometimes a little harsh.
As for fights, nope. Everything was settled with dodgeball during gym.

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>>220973777
I don't want to be a dick, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the people who ended bullying and sanitized everything are people like you who actually got it out of their system and then conveniently decided for everyone that punching down is wrong and we should "be better" out of a sense of troll's remorse

The people who ban everyone for saying mean words online called others slurs all the time when they were kids, and now today's kids will forever be deprived of the fun you got to partake in. But hey you feel bad about it so I guess it's okay

>>220975510
No it’s really not. It’s natural. The same way a straight man seeing 2 men kissing elicits the same response as seeing maggots. Calling anyone who isn’t a big fan of faggots “closeted” isn’t going to help your cause either.

>>220973781
>yellowstone shirt
Somehow even a bigger fag than the fag flag in drag.

>>220975583
Yeah I remember the actual incident pretty clearly. I just pulled it out and yelled at him with the knife in my hand. Didn't swing it or get close to him with it at all.

>>220972632
no it wasn't lol

>>220975723
Chimping out in public is more than just not caring for gays

>>220975799
He had an issue with the flag not the fag, as I recall.

>>220975878
Yeah, see >>220974836

>>220975749
Yeah I actually referenced (but wasn't clear about it) the part where you didn't remember the reaction your parents had as the part where you forgot some part of the incident but not the actual incident. I can't think of an exact similar incident from myself around those ages, but I bet I must have like dozens I just block at least partially.

>>220973155
Chads and stacies don't bully its failed normalfags and wiggers when it comes to whites, if you go to an inner city public school as a white kid God help you

>>220972632
no

>>220972632
the thing about bullying is only people who deserve to be bullied get bullied. stand up for yourself at all and it stops being bulling. most of the time thats the end of it but sometimes the beef is real and we just need to accept that.

>>220975397
>>220975583
A friend and I almost got expelled for planning a Columbine attack in 6th grade. I was mildly bullied, mostly namecalling and threats, but the other kid was constantly humiliated by literally everyone so I over-sympathized with him and wanted to help him get revenge. They used to do heinous shit to him for no reason
>sweep his legs to knock him down
>flick his head
>smack him with balls
>knee him in the ass, some gay shit they called corndogging or whatever
>stole his backpack and threw it out on the street or the trash
All he ever did wrong that I could tell is he wore khakis, tucked in his shirt, and brushed his teeth in the bathroom after lunch. He was clean, kind, conscientous, never annoying unless he was arguing with a bully then he might be a little shrill. Sometimes I wonder what would've happened if I actually brought my dad's guns to school and did the deed. Would I even have a Wikipedia page? A footnote on some crime statistics?

>>220975510
Manly men and gays have a natural antipathy. It's a built in instinctual thing for them to gaybash and all of that. Because they're in a competition for survival. If the gays win, then manliness loses.

>>220975583
Not as crazy but there was this annoying jew kid named moses who was just a turd, he saw I was going to the drinking fountain so he ran ahead of me, got there first, then stayed there fake drinking as long as I waited. so I walked off, grabbed my backpack with my metal lunchbox inside, walked over and whammed it straight on his back, he screamed and started crying. it was great. this was like 4th grade. I wish I could be that impulsive now

>>220976126
Not true, so nignogs picking on white kids minding their own business deserve it?

>>220975397
A pumpkin knife is even safer than safety scissors my boy.

>>220976126
I think bullies try everyone, they will test them all and then whichever ones they can 'get to' will be who they hone in on.

>>220973781
Texas looks cool

>>220975740
> tfw you can’t say you like Yellowstone the national party because of some gay ass tv show
Fuck this gay nigger earth

Milquetoast twitter take thread

>>220976126
Which circumstances are you ready to include or exclude from this rule where someone who is targeted always deserves to suffer + is not able to leave the circumstances but forced to endure after daily defeats? Do you get some sort of a medal if you fought other people many times in school but still didn't end up having a good time or the bullying went from in your face to behind your back?

anti bully propaganda let the freaks run wild and now the freaks are cutting off their dicks. bullying is healthy for the system.

>>220976207
I like how Devon Stack on his streams has often said people should be bullied more extremely but he was extremely bitter by being bullied and assaulted by mexicans or whoever while in school himself or if nignogs jump on white kids because that's supposedly "different".

Of course there are gray areas so it's not black-and-white, because assaults or bullying to destroy a person are different things than shaming some unwanted behavior to lessen it from happening. You can never get rid of that kind of thing, you can only change or reverse the rules infinite times, but there will always be some level of "stop acting x or y or get outcasted or bullied out of group".

At my school two retarded kids in the sped class got raped

>>220976138
And if everyone involved were adults in a workplace, doing just one or two things of that list would get them kicked the hell out or the target would just stop attending to work if not.

Euro here, when i was a in school it was very much a thing here to.
Verbal and sometimes physical.
A one time had to kick a kid so hard in the kneecap that he was crippled for weeks and the parents demanded i got kicked out of school.
The fact that this kid was using me as his personal punchbag for weeks and destroyed my personal stuff was ignored by the teachers up until that point.
I stayed in school and after that we ended up becoming friends

30 year old euro here, I used to be a bully, I stole this spac's electric wheelchair, knocked out two kids on the school field, photoshopped, set a guy's jacket on fire, burnt people with a bunsen burner, freeze burnt people with deodorant cans. Everyone did it to a degree, I just wouldnt back down. It was fun, I do think zoomers are missing out.

>>220976675
Also yes I am from a non European background in case you were wondering

>>220972632
Blacks and Mexicans

>>220976207
Niggers aren't "bullying" the same way whites "bully." Whites set out to "correct" behavior to prevent weaker whites from turning out gay or trans. Blacks just attack people because they are subhuman who only exist to lower the quality of life for every organism that has to suffer their presence.

>>220977225
Where can we observe this correcting behavior or it's results? You can correct one of your friends by telling them "don't act gay / don't make us look gay/weak". Where as bullying means you are trying to make the people the group chooses to be unwanted to leave and when they can't leave, you torture and defeat them every day for the fun of the rest of the group. Niggers are more primitive about it and they are protected by the administration, yes, but it was never about fair play.

>>220975510
I tolerate the gays, but I avoid it in media, because I innately am disgusted by it. I skip through storylines or characters that are gay, if that is the focus of the movie or show, I just don’t watch it. I stay away from it, and I think this is what most guys want. To not have to deal with gay shit, just keep it to yourselves. We allow you to do it, so have some rational thought, and shut the fuck up about it.
There is another poster that replied to you, said seeing gays is the feeling you get when you see maggots. I don’t think all straight men feel this, but I knew exactly what he’s talking about. You want to throw up when you see it. And just like bullying comes natural to every single culture/race on the planet. I think this disgust is natural in males as well, and not completely uncommon. Africa, the middle east, western countries (until relatively recently), all dealt with it the same ways. By killing or exiling the faggots. You should stop being an annoying gay bitch, because things could change quickly for you. Society’s rules are never set in stone. Claiming straight guys are gay is another reason for straight men to hate you even more. You are hated already, but then you gotta start shit? It shows how disgusting and twisted your mind is, that you see everything in the same faggot colored glasses. Just shut up, and self segregate you retard, you have nothing to gain by trying to get society to hate you more than we do.

>>220972632
When I was in highschool, there was this weak kid name Jeff. I think he was abused at home because he was always flinchy and nervous and never talked to anyone. I used to shove him around and call him a faggot. Sometimes I'd corner him in the bathroom and make him kiss me.

>>220972632
yes i went to public school and i was the smallest in my grade. In 9th grade there was "freshman firday" and some senior chased me across the supermarket at lunch (we had open lunch where we could leave school and come back)

>>220976675
Kys mutt

>>220979742
What?

>>220975397
I believe you, cause something similar happened with me.
Kid kept on bullying me in school, they'd even chase me a couple blocks after school, so I asked my mom what to do. She was high at the time and told me to bring a steel pipe and start swinging so I did.
didn't hit them but got suspended, teachers were shocked because they never expected me to do that, and then was never picked on again.

>>220975397
I buy that, I once brought a knife to a party, one thought there might have be an attack at from a rival school as there were rumors they would crash it.

>>220972818
>>220973703
I also grew up in NJ and don't recall a single instance of 'bullying'...if you were an annoying loser people just left you alone, and when people hated each other it was usually on an individual basis rather than some group ganging up on the ostracized and weak.

Just came across as real loser shit.

>>220972632
Yes. There's a lot of online larpers who pretend it was good because they want to posture as though they'd definitely be the bully even though they stare at their shoes when confronted in real life.

The reality is that it was pretty normal for a particular kind of person to basically act like a nog in high school, and all those stereotypes you see in movies didn't just fall out of somebody's ass, they were based on an experience that was really common. Over time it got so severe and sometimes lethal that teaching standards changed to various sorts of zero tolerance nonsense, so now bullying takes a different form i.e. crying racism or online harassment and shit like that, but back in the day it was just the sort of lower IQ retard that eventually becomes a cop going around and trying to pick fights with people while teachers looked away because they didn't care and didn't want to deal with it.

>>220972632
Yes bullies were common in grade 4 through 8. There were a few aggressive bullies in high school, but they rarely did things in plain view of adult staff. They were either super subtle about it or they attacked you outside of school, or they would be close with one particular teacher whom they knew they could be bastards around. For me when I was a freshman, there was a junior year guy who was this angry wrestling dude that had a problem with me because I looked like my older brother who he hated. I think he also did not like that I was as big as him even though I was 2-3 years younger. Anyway he was a TA in one class I had, and basically he would find ways to harass me while the careless teacher wasn't paying attention, or find ways to make the teacher think I was acting up and get me sent out of class. It was pretty obnoxious. Never anything physical except for when the beaners would be getting uppity.

>>220972632
I grew up in a super multi-cultural area in california and went to a shitty middle school and high school and it was basically like prison for kids, there where mini-gangs of blacks, mexicans, etc. School guards literally carried tasers. I used to get fucked with all the time and I would hide out in the computer lab with the other whites and asians during lunch to avoid a confrontation. Flips where the only cool ones, they always had my back

>>220973620
How could outliers create great works w/o the suffering fro bullying?

>>220973724
this is why I never cry over school shootings. you just know the kid was ruthlessly abused and dehumanised by all of his peers until he snapped.

>>220974932
the girl should be punished in that case for abusing social trust by leading on the two boys

>>220973781
>yellowstone t-shirt
fag on fag violence

>>220975397
everybody knew of "that kid" who brought a knife to school to show off.

>>220975518
European politics in basically every country has been dominated by libleft shittery since the 1970s, and the way European elections work means a party can only gain actual governmental power if they get a supermajority of popular votes. so yes, you are all like that. the European "far right" is just "we want all the leftist shit, but only for white natives".

>>220981195
When I was in middle school I was in the AIM chat with these two girls. They invited a second boy in the chat room and he start to completely dress me down and humiliate me. I left think, "Wow, he was a jerk. I can't believe he acted that way in front of the two girls." Well, it turns out they enjoyed the show and he got to fuck one of them. It wasn't until years later I learned girls love watching men fight over her.

>>220973743
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>220972632
I wonder if something like that ever happened to someone irl?

>>220974314
Except trannies are "bullies" now, retard

>>220974737
That's not how it works, retard

You all guys saying bullying should be back are fucking retards. Bullying is the reason we have a lot of maladjusted individuals in modern society.

>>220981440
We have a lot of maladjusted retards because they weren't bullied. They were enabled by the internet and their faggot school.

>>220974935
Middle school is a wild time. I got bullied a bit but was equally terrible in my behavior like others. I went to the office more than once and told I was out of control. Seemed about right.
Even in knowing that I could get in trouble,I would just do class clown/destructive/over the top things at a random impulse at any time. Smashed alot of things.
Then I would go home at the end of the day and be just the opposite.

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>>220972632
Only if you're a chud kid in elementary school. Societal values have shifted towards victimhood currency. You get social points for either being a marginalized minority, or being an ally for them. And very young children are typically very easily influenced, so they are quick to take these values and go to the extreme with them. It's almost never the physical beat down sessions tho. They opt for the more feminized version of psychological terror bullying. spreading rumors, talking shit, making people feel isolated and anxious every fucking day.

>>220981447
>They were enabled by the internet
It's their parents' fault for letting the internet raise their children

>>220981477
>picrel
Hot

>>220981447
Again, this assumes bullying is always corrective or deserved. You're retarded

>>220979898
>teachers were shocked because they never expected me to do that
Those are the kind of bum teachers who also pay no attention to you getting bullied and if they do see it they look the other way cause they don't want deal with the mess.

>>220972632
Kind of but it didn't actually look the way it's depicted in movies. It almost never was the jocks bullying nerds. It was usually manipulative nerds fucking with the shyer nerds. I spent most of my time in the stoner and hick cliques back when I was in highschool and I can only think of a single case of a jock type fucking with a nerd and it was a football player beating the shit out of a manipulative fat nerd because he saw him smash one of the meek nerd's PDAs (if that gives you any hints into when I graduated). In my experience the hollywood depiction of bullying dynamics is pure fantasy.

yes you were bullied if you were poor, gay or fat

>>220981634
This. If you managed to avoid any of those three you were safe.

>>220973690
>>220981619
Why did Hollywood used to portray jocks as bullies?

>>220973781
Something tells me the blonde bitch laffing at the whole affair was behind that

>>220972632
In 2001 my friend went to a US school because of one of those boomer home-swap things (fucking insane when you think about it now). He almost killed himself because of bullying. Funnily enough, the American girl that came here also almost killed herself because everyone fucking hates Americans.

>>220972818
When I was in school one of my friends was beaten until he really was soaked head to toe in blood. I didn't see the fight but I saw him get carried out. He was bruised all over and they broke his nose and knocked one of his teeth out. I guess the teachers sat by not breaking the fight up. Heard one of the guys who attacked him punched him so hard he broke a knuckle.

>>220981540
Corrective, yes. Deserved, no. Bullying forces people to comply or die. The internet allows for niche communities to thrive

>>220981867
Oh and he got suspended too for trying to defend himself

>>220981963
If I were your friend I would have go full Columbine after that

>>220981749
From what I've heard it depends where you live. In rural places it's really Jocks and nerds, as well as other cliques, like theater kids, club kids, etc.

Where I went to school all the kids who were at the top of the class were also playing sports, doing clubs, etc. It was really achievers vs slackers.

>>220982099
Not really. In rural places it wasn't really cliquey. Suburbia is where that happened, I think. In rural areas it was the same as you described. Sporty kids weren't always smart but they were at least nice. Smart kids were usually nice as well. It was just assholes v nice people in a rural area.

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>>220977608
I knew a guy who thought and talked exactly like this and surprise surprise decades later he turned out to be closeted. Spare yourself and everyone around you years of tedium and just get over your self hatred already.

>>220981749
It's Hollywood jew producers seething at Chad jocks who got all the girls while they were being meek weirdos. It's all a revenge fantasy.

>>220977608
>tl;dr: I'm a closeted faggot

>>220972718
the type of bullying that goes on in high school would get you fired or fucking arrested if you did it in a workplace, it's SO much worse than middle school

>>220983742
I've been bullied in the workplace enough that I honestly am surprised there isn't a shooting every other week. People act like such unhinged faggots that I don't understand how complex society still manages to exist.

>>220972818
its a country the size of europe, and more diverse than any individual european country by a significant margin
different things happen in different areas
in my middle school, the only fights ever involved a headlock at worst and the two involved usually became friends after
in highschool, the closest thing to a fight was when a gay guy got tired of smaller dude calling him a fag and then threw him against a locker and that was the entire thing since the smaller guy understandably backed off
I lived in the suburbs in a diverse area, so my schools are actually pretty good representations of the country at large, not the best not the worst, very average
I never saw anyone bleed due to a fight, and this was despite being in most of them no I was not the gay guy or the smaller guy

>>220981955
so whats supposed to be good about being "corrected" into being a normalfag

>>220973136
The percentage of kids suffering serious consequences from bullying like actual suicide has always been slim compared to the amount of people negatively impacted by cracking down on bullying.
>it's okay to allow kids to be tortured by other kids because at least most of them they don't kill themselves!

>Even for kids who were relentlessly bullied through school, most of them still end up graduating and getting over it as adults
What is "trauma"? Trauma stays with you and creates all sorts of mental illnesses. Let me guess, you believe psychology doesn't exist and any kind of psych literature is a sham

>The problem is grown ass adults taking the issue of kids being mean way too seriously
That's because it is serious because that's when a person is most vulnerable and formative and it will WRECK your psyche, and only now we have begun to realize it. It's clear you don't have empathy and want to defend bullying, and I really hope you don't have kids or work with kids

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>tfw bullies end up working jobs like this for their whole life

>>220972718
Bullying happens when people have no ability to leave their environment and are stuck with people they don't want to be around. It creates pecking order situations that never resolve because neither person can leave the environment.

In my case, bullying was pretty much done at HS because it was a large enough school you had social mobility. If you didn't fit in with people, you found a different circle and that was is. No one was stuck with each other for more than 40 minutes during some class. But I can see it being more of a thing in some small town where the school is like 50 kids per graduating class.

>>220984233
It was also more of a thing before social media/smartphones kicked in since kids had more free time to act out and cause trouble.
Now everyone is glued to their phone 24/7 and if any "bullying" is going on it's usually gossip and attempting to ostracize someone on social media.

>>220973284
>>220973284
Yeah. The most popular kids were just sociable funny people, often quite attractive and had no reason to bully people which is why they were truly popular amongst most social groups in the year level.

The kids who used to bully others or get into fights commonly were viewed as cool i guess, but i think people outside of that group were doing it less out of respect and more just intimidation or like, i have nothing in common with this person but i'll be nice to them, i'd rather have this cunt in my favour than against me and outside of their own friend group people who thought they were cool like you would treat a fashion accessory. Cool cause you associate with them but but not something you'd actually want as a close friend.

They were responsible for actual fights but like actual bullying as how it's presented in movies i rarely ever saw past like year 8, But i guess if you're in america most hood niggas are basically stunted to a 13yo's maturity. I mean plenty of people had conflicts and dramas but idk if i'd class that as bullying.

>>220972632
No. I wish it was though, doubt we'd have so many sensitive pussies running around ruining everything for men

>>220972632
Verbal? Yes. Physical? More rare. I was bullied/a bully myself my first two years in high school and to a lesser degree in middle school. The guy I bullied the first year gave it right back to me though and we became friends, however. I think I did it due to being in an unfamiliar place and was insecure with myself. After about a year I stopped and became much more chill. I think a little bullying is healthy. It builds character and regulates proper social cues for your age cohort, but it obviously can get out of control and become harassment pretty quickly.

>>220984129
nigga ima be arching your back like dat if you mocking labour jobs again. We work hard and someone's gotta do it anyway certainly not some pencilneck twink who shoulda get smack the fuck up back in high school teach u some respect

>>220984321
You talk like a fruit

>>220983989
>and more diverse than any individual european country by a significant margin
it's not even as diverse as Italy alone

>>220974737
99% of public school teachers and university professors deserve to make less than they already do and as much scorn as possible.

>>220984480
why?

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>>220976198
>Manly men and gays have a natural antipathy. It's a built in instinctual thing for them to gaybash and all of that. Because they're in a competition for survival.
This is plain wrong though? Homos pose no risk to straights' "survival" because they aren't competing against them for pussy, what are you on about

>>220972632
Hot take: bullying is a useful evolutionary tool that is supposed to apply social guard rails early on in life. Obviously im not referring to the most insane hedge cases where it's hazing or extreme violence, but to the every day kind that is largely prevented from happening today, like laughing at a kid that shows up wearing a wolf tail until they stopped, preventing a nascent future freak from developing that particular interest.

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>>220975518
>rise of the far-right
>Europe

>>220984516
Social cohesion is (was) important for survival. If Cave-Jim was being too much of a weird fag and nobody wanted him to come along on hunts, the whole tribe could suffer or secure less food for a season. You can claim this wouldn't be an issue but there's a reason gay guys and straight guys generally dont hang out a lot or form very close friendships, even today where theres no evolutionary pressure for that end result. Then there's just the fact that surviving and passing on genes comes often down to every able adult producing kids. If your tribe was super down with the gays and like 20% of the adults weren't producing kids, the tribe next door that didnt would outnumber you and come take your shit by force of arms eventually.

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I got bullied in kindergarten lol. There was this angelface girl, blonde hair and blue eyes who was an evil little bitch who reported me to the teacher for things I never did, and the teacher always listened to her and put me in time out. One day at the park I see this girl again and I kick her in the stomach to the ground. Fucking whore.
I was always a weird kid and I guess even at that age she subconsciously perceived "the ick", still that doesn't justify you giving false reports to the teacher, maybe she learned her lesson

>>220984480
Because the Teacher's Union is a cabal of the worst kind of self-righteous narcissists there is, same with most university professors. They are all neoliberal propagandists, but at least kids can choose not to subject themselves to the professors. With public education, not so much.

>>220984374
Wanna give me a kiss, faggot?

>>220984488
see
>>220984516

>>220972818
>do american children really get beaten bloody in school?
No. It's mostly blacks because dey culcha and because they lack impulse control due to underdeveloped prefrontal cortices. Also, they're not allowed to be suspended.

>>220977643
Did you suck his cock too? Fucking faggot

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>>220977643
GIWTWM

>>220972632
do white people only do this to other white people or do they do this to black people too?

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>>220980623
You are literally me in middle school right down to the chill based Filipino bros.
The Pinoys were also the only Asians to date white Stacies. (Felt weird using zoomer terms as I'm a 37 year old millennial) I think their laid back attitudes and kindness made them attractive.
Pinays on the other were genuinely batshit crazy.
>The milder cases were just uncomfortably religious, superstitious, or really into Astrology type stuff
>Then you got the Pinays with BPD and schizo level delusions.
>Had a bro who dated this half Filipina girl. Kept breaking up and getting back together.
>She'd flip out on him for the stupidest shit.
>Once got mad at him and chewed him out because he was on the phone with her while he was on the toilet which she found disgusting and disrespectful.
>(Could this bitch smell it through the phone?)
>Another Filipina attacked a guy with safety scissors because he was "talking shit" about her IN HER DREAM
>Valedictorian was a Filipina though who managed to be an outlier who wasn't crazy
I don't know what causes this dramatic gulf in temperament between Filipino males and females.

I'm autistic sped and I've gotten more shit from the teachers than other students

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If you're autistic, yes.
Never surprises me how much 4chan unironically loves bullies and bullying, either.

>>220972818
i was never bullied but a girl hit me in the head with a big tree branch in 2nd grade and it was a little bloody

>>220985897
a girl once kicked me in the groin
missed the balls but still hurt like hell

Yes

It's literally a nation of psychopathic golems

>>220985919
>t.ranny

>>220984129
Grab a wheelbarrow you dumb nigger.

>>220985936
>he says the nonsensical canned insult like an inhuman bot

hopeless npc

>>220984129
man, I wished I was bullied by guys like that

>>220975355
Nah, you are a retard

I was a bully

>>220986087
based
i bullied this kid a little bit for 1 year. i saw on facebook years later that he got arrested for child abuse so i dont feel bad about it

>>220986130
>based
Nah, it's not something to be proud of. And now, having a profession that deals with a lot of bullied kids you can see how much of a cunt I was. At least I never broke any bone, you see a lot of heavy shit in my profession.

The best I did was dealing with other bullies to protect a bunch of nerds/weirdos. I mean, I was a weirdo myself but I was a bit wild so the other bullies didn't want any stuff with me. The third biggest criminal of them (who is reformed now) became my friend because I had balls to put a fight with him kek. And of the weirdos I protected, I bullied 3 of them. 3 of 5. Just because they pissed me off I don't know why. Well, one was a bit of a cunt.

I think I know why I was a bully but I don't wanna dig into that stuff. It was father-brother-me toxic figure.

>>220972632
my highschool bully was an indian chad who fucked multiple blonde women and got into columbia

>>220986217
sar this is true he was wery well spoken too

>>220986217
this happened at my school too but he was nice to me

>>220986207
lgbt youth counsellor?
leave those kids alone man

>>220986300
No, I'm not that. Stop projecting.

>>220986130
>he got arrested for child abuse so i dont feel bad about it
you mean all the shit you did to him on a daily basis. You think you’re justified in retrospect but you likely caused him to become that way
>well, his kid didn’t deserve it!
did he deserve it back then?
>I was a kid, I didn’t know better!
he clearly did, otherwise he would have done it back to you

>>220972818
In my school we never had anything like punching someone in the nose out of nowhere. It was more psychological, like teasing, poking, small punches to the stomach and shoulder, doing practical pranks, etc. If you can't handle that game, you're going to be a punchbag and suffer throughout your school life. But if you'd steal someone's money or really hurt someone, like that webm, you'd be expelled.

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American school movies should be required viewing for German kids to prepare them

>>220986589
German teachers have it coming.
Biggest cunts in the world.

And literally unfireable no matter how shit they are, getting rewarded with a fat pension and early retirement at the end.
Even fucking a student isn't enough to get a teacher fired.

>>220986468
he probably had a bad vibe and anon knew he was going to be a kiddie diddler

>>220986625
eh, there are dumb cunts and there are good teachers everywhere around the world
some treat it as a job and others really are passionate about it

>>220986664
in other places teachers can be fired for incompetency
this is literally not possible in Germany, they can only get shuffled around
the absolute worst land in the ministries away from children where they decide the policies for all schools in the regions instead

>>220972632
yes lol i got actually physically assaulted a few times. schools are jokes, most people dont even do anything with the arithmetic and literacy skills they are taught. education should be reserved for bright minds and the wealthy as it has been for ages, mass education is such a stupid idea.