Is it luck? Rich parents? Not trying be disrespectful but it blows my mind.
>>220977051Rich parents
>>220977051directing is an easy job all things considered. you are surrounded by experts and you just have to make small decisions.
same age as orson welles on citizen kane WHO CARES
>>220977051>20 years oldHe looks at least 35.
Luck. I think there is a saying that only 1% of people make it in hollywood
>>220977051Of course it's rich parents, I'm not saying those movies are art but art has never been free to make.
>>220977051Rich kids becoming directors was always the obvious future of movies
Most people who try to make it in Hollywood have like 2-3 jobs just to support them.
>>220977051I say this often, these new directors are going to keep winning because the young generation (especially in the US) hates Disney capeshit and reboots more than any other I've ever seen. The death of the franchise is going to be the most beautiful thing to ever happen to media.
>>220977171>these new directors are going to keep winningthey won't, that's two dead careers right there
>>220977051No. Sam Raimi made The Evil Dead at 19/20.
I'm impressed by Curry Barker, because his story makes sense. He's an established director of live-action shorts. He was tentatively given a budget of up to a million dollars by a small production to make a fun indie flick with a novel premise. The film did the festival circuit, got picked up by Blumhouse for production. This is a thing that happens, it's how the industry works at the low levels. I'm very happy for him.I'm not impressed by Kane Parsons because the story is bullshit. A year after he starts making youtube videos he's given 10 million dollars financed by two of the biggest independent entertainment companies on the scene, the resources of multiple high-profile production studios run by established industry directors with recent breakout hits, and the director's chair on his first ever movie at the age of 20 based solely and exclusively off making youtube videos in Blender. It's completely irrational. It's not something that happens, because why would it happen? Why would they give a novice director barely out of high school 10 million dollars to direct his first ever movie? He doesn't even own the idea. He's a sock puppet.
>>220977670I can totally see Curry making it. Even though it blows my mind he makes it at 25/26. But Parason is wild. Dude is 20! I do like his youtube videos expanding on the backrooms. But idk. 20 years old is crazy. Dude graduated high school like 2-3 years ago and he's directing a movie. Nuts
>>220977670A lot of anons claiming nepos! with no proofs. Curry Barker can also act, he also composes very effective instrumental tracks for his horror shorts, edits and produces. His father is a writer with limited if any money made from it, he also coached, taught high school and was a news reporter for small stations in the south. There's a great recent video chat between Curry and his father. What sold me on Barker is that he doesn't compromise, he's not woke and if you've seen his earlier work, he knows how to nonverbally use humor to imply and comment a lot that is anti woke, anti Hollywood even lightly conspiratorial without affiliating himself with any eceleb political shit. His acting and humor is similar to MDE and Cum Town but he really has mastered economy of sets, story, and characters that justifies his success with Obsession, watch The Chair for the best example. He is also blessed with timing, some of Hollywood is lowering the volume on woke and DEI, in some cases because "taps sign" and because they exhaustively phased out an entire generation of filmmakers with their agendas and need fresh blood. Barker also has the advantage of forming a friend group that can insulate him from getting his frog boiled. You can't really undermine Parsons' Backrooms shorts either. He obsessively put in the work. Those shorts are iconic imho, he power forced horror forward by himself, whether his family is well off, it doesn't matter, his trajectory is similar to the makers of Doom had they been inspired by an early meme and imagine if the two Johns had been filmmakers? Parsons could have easily compromised and made the safer Blair Witch or Office Alien slop and it would have made even more money followed by sequels. Then there is the Backrooms itself which is really unprecedented in horror or creative fields in general in that it sprung from the anonymous not unlike Bitcoin. The power of its basic visual idea insta lights up the animal brain and modern mind.
>>220977670>>220978839I think Curry Barker will be the one who actually breaks out into the mainstream. Obsession actually has legs and is popular with normie crowds and isn't relying on internet horror circles. Backrooms is doing all that and already kinda falling off.
>>220978839>You can't really undermine Parsons' Backrooms shorts either.The issue isn't the quality of his youtube videos. The issue is the absolutely implausible, impossible, ridiculous transition from making Blender videos for a year to being given 10 million dollars and the backing of major studios to direct his first ever feature film while the horror directors credited as producers just stood on the sidelines giving him encouraging nods.
>>220977051We cant say anything yet, after all this is just a debut, one single film, like ari aster and eggers, they both make one hit wonder (witch, hereditary) before drifting into mediocrity years after their popular moobie got released
>>220977051They're mascots. The "producers" are the ones doing their job.
>>220977670>He's a sock puppet.Mascot, the term is mascot. He's there to be a face for the braindamaged zoomies and awoogies.
>>220979360it's a ridiculous transition to you because you believe in a very dated concept of meritocracy based on years invested.what actually happens is: 1) someone has concept (youtube shorts with brand recognition and audience of tens of millions)2) studio buys film rights3) screenplay is written 4) movie is greenlit based on script5) movie turns out to ACTUALLY BE FUCKING GOOD WTF??the most critical step is actually 3, the one that gets ZERO discussion. so it feels like something mysterious is happening when really, a writer did the script that translated 1 and 2 into 4 and made 5 possible. Ken Parson's deserves a lot of credit but without his cowriter he'd probably just be a guy with a film still in development based on his youtube series. it's not nepotism, it's that a guy actually made a concept into a good story, which is how the film industry SHOULD work.
>>220979567the differences is that ari aster and roger eggers' debuts were both shit, as were all the subsequent films that they were allowed to continue to make, yet this film is the one that people get mad about.
Rich parents
>>220979615This.>>220979698There's a deep flaw with your system because it isn't good.
internet addicted 11-19 year olds are so numerous that its almost disturbing. there are so many stupid little fandoms like backrooms or that circus show that generation hundreds of millions of dollars.there are fandoms that teenagers are into that have millions and millions of subscribers that you would have never heard of. google "object shows" for example, many channels from this weird genre with over a million subs for something that is genuinely retarded.i think every single teenager now is online 24/7 so the weird fandoms and niches that you remember in the early internet are now amplified to 100x and can make millions
>>220977051They had to sell their buttholes to hollyjoos so really not all that impressive
>>220979728Because the Backrooms is shit and Hereditary was far better, Obsession was ok but Hereditary was still better. But yeah, nobody is mad I think it'll just be one of those things that gets posted here once and awhile as "oh yeah, that was a thing"
>>220979728The pattern is still the same: when something becomes mainstream, something different will break the norm and becomes the norm itself over time - before another anti mainstream film break that established norm and become the new norm itself, again.Before the witch and hereditary, the current meta in horror blockbuster are religious horror mixed with jumpscare slop with the likes of conjuring and insidious, paranormal activity. to name a few. Then the witch comes out, hereditary comes out, it follows comes out, and then the style of horror changed into something atmospheric while keeping any element from their previous generation of horror to minimum, some arent even showing the monster or ghost or supernatural being itself, and now those formula have become mainstream and everyone has been doing the same exact thing over the past few years, so now obsession and backrooms become the norm breaker of the previous a24 horror style.What im trying to say is dont put too much hope in style over substance filmmaking because style, much like design trend, changes; they are tentative and cannot be use as a measurement over individual vision.
>>220977101I “made” it but I had to battle with gay Jews it makes me want to cry how weird it is
>>220979884I went to film school and became famous but I was smeared and they lied about me it’s bullshit I’m just a normal guy these people are freaks it makes me laugh as well
>>220977051Curry's dad had connections because he was already into screen writing and Kane's dad is in video games and probably had connections too.
>>220978839I mean, nobody's really said "nepo" in this thread. They said he had rich parents.>Aspiring to be an actor, Barker left home at eighteen to study at the New York Film Academy campus in Los Angeles.That shit's not free, dude.>In his first week he met fellow student Cooper Tomlinson, and the two soon began making videos together on YouTube, which they described as "our film school outside of film school".He was already on the fast track to a Hollywood career when he started making Youtube videos. If he'd been born in most people's shoes, he'd be working at a gas station right now.
>>220977051When was the last time we had a 20 year old and 26 year old director hit it big in Hollywood? This is literally unheard of in recent times. All of these millennial filmmakers started making movies in their 30s and they haven't had the big box office success that Parsons and Barker are having with their debut films. Last I can remember was Josh Trank making Chronicle at 27, and we all know how his career turned out
>>220977051Rich parents unfortunately
>>220977080Yeah, that's a pretty hard 20 for Kane
>muh nepotismyeah man everyone is, get over it
>>220979936There's virtually no one in Hollywood who came from rags to riches. That's not how the industry has worked for many decades now
>>220977051Marketing is a weird and scary beast.Remember when Longlegs was the scariest movie ever for a month and then everyone decided it was a joke?
Do you know how many people have been making Backrooms shit on youtube? The narrative was also nothing like what he has done before. Of course it was rich parents
>>220980136He has by far the most popular videos
>>220977075no not really. as a director you're involved in every step of the process and have to make sure that you can communicate your ideas clearly to other people and that they are smart enough to interpret your ideas correctly so you don't go full hitler on set or in post.>>220977171kane is continuing backrooms and curry is directing the next texas chainsaw massacre film. they are both literally becoming franchise directors you idiot.>>220977670>>220978839curry went to film school and has legit acting credits to his name so he's already technically established in the industry, that's how he got his footing.>>220978925backrooms has made $150 million against a $10 million budget, it's not falling off at all lmao.
>>220980181Yes anon, defend the Hollywood director! Maybe one day they'll let you suck their dick!
>>220980136>>220980149I was kind of curious because his channel has like 50 videos that are mostly pretty abstract and weird and certainly no real acting in them which is no different than any other blender youtuber with like 250k subscribers so I don't get how he is so revolutionary. I thought SCPs couldn't be copyrighted too, and the backrooms obviously isn't his original idea, so are they just using his age for marketing or what?
>>220980181If you could make at least $200 million from a $10 million movie, you would be hiring Kane Parsons and Curry Barker too. Zoomers are pulling in the profits that millennials never did at their age. Case closed on this.
>>220977061this>>220977080i turn 35 in a few weeks, this kid does not look my age at all.>>220980205exactly who am i defending here? not my fault you're retarded.
>>220977051Hollywood is COOKED
>>220977051Imagine if Shelby Oaks made one of these movies instead.
a young man can accomplish something, if he doesn't waste time, which is what most of us are doing here. georgie lucas was quite young too.
What kind of fucking name is "Curry" for a white man? For Christ's sake, America.
>>220977051It was normal for young people to direct shit until recently.Don Coscarelli was 23 when he made Phantasm. Raimi was 20 when he made Evil Dead.
>>220977051Here's the honest truth that has been hidden from some millennials and zoomers: there's no such thing as too young after, say, 15 yo. Life starts and keeps going. How you use your time is up to you.You are NOT a "child" at 18. You are NOT beholden to creative limits or stifling expectations.
>>220977051We need young people. New blood. We've gotten too used to 70-80 year olds running everything from politics to entertainment. They have gotten outdated and out of touch. Let the young ones give it a shot.t. Gen X
>>220977051Not being part of woke incestuous pedo regular entertinment industry helps a lot I guess
>>220980289>Zoomers are pulling in the profits that millennials never did at their agethere are also hardly any millennial directors, for some reason hollywood has a weird generational gap. plenty of millennial writers (in writer's rooms)/actors/crew, most of the big names are gen-x and boomers.>>220980136those people's videos don't have 80 million views like kane's video has>>220980228yes his age is literally part of the marketing, all the interviews mention how young he is
I think you misunderestimate how Reddit tier and brainwormed Millenials and up are. Who else would be making kino
>>220980289Going by box office and critical praise, most successful movies directed by millennials are by Ryan Coogler -- Black Panther and Sinners. But capeshit barely counts, so let's just say La La Land at $504.6 million is the most successful millennial movie. Chazelle was 31
>>220980453Chazelle, Eggers and David Robert Mitchell are among the very few millennial directors who built themselves a solid reputation
>>220977051If you think that's crazy, check out this young film prodigy! Already directing a feature film, and he can't be older than what... 17?
>>220980422Frankly I hate all this generational shit. How do you define them? I always interpreted being born in the early 80s as Gen X. So Greta Gerwig would not actually be a millennial filmmaker like people consider her to be, I mean she was in college by 2001. It's not all that impressive that you made a lot of money with Barbie when you had 20 years as a grown adult to make it there. Let's just say that are exceedingly few directors in the film industry who were born in the 90s. You're right, there's a huge gap
>>220980485>David Robert Mitchellgen-x not a millennialto be a millennial you have to be born from 1980-1995
>>220980499I hope this young lad knows how popular he is on the internet
>>220977670I've used blender for many years, you have no idea how unbelievably talented this guy is for his age.his videos have 100s of millions of views, they took a completely reasonable leap of faith with him.
>>220980505no actually greta is what we refer to as "elder millennials"but yeah no 90s directors yet, mainly because i'm still working on getting there.
>>220980510No way in hell that I'm calling James Rolfe and Doug Walker millennials. Those are prime Gen X manbabies. Millennials are like Mamdani.
>>220979936>Sir, the janitor's son has a movie idea!>Well don't just stand there, let the man into my office right away!
>>220980533i don't care what you call them, the facts are the facts anoni was off by a year, the official consensus is a millennial is anyone born 1981-1996also remember, anyone born at the start of the next generation is always heavily influenced by the prior generation, just as the cultural identity of the next decade is shaped by the identity of the prior decade in its first three years.
>>220980505>Frankly I hate all this generational shit. How do you define them?People just kinda come to a general consensuses about it. Millennial is probably the easiest one to nail down. If you were a teenager or kid in the year 2000 your a millennial.Baby boomers is next easiest, basically 20 years of people fucking after world war 2. Ending in the mid 60s when those damn hippies showed up. Gen X covers the middle.
>>220979958>He went to film school >That's why he made it Name living directors you respect?
>>220980510True, you're right
>>220980534this is unironically how rogue one was made btwjohn knoll was just some vfx supervisor shucking along working at lucasfilm for decades and then got the balls to pitch his story when kennedy came along, most likely because he knew george would shoot it down
>>220979884they wouldn't get this welcoming in the 2010s. It's like hollywood just discovered white dudes again lol. bit weird. weapons guy got in when his friend "died."
>>220977051Oh shit I knew obsession was directed by some youtube, didn't know it was the cake fucking guy.
>>220979876Just sucks that A24 and Blumhouse has such a monopoly. Zoomers need a distro wizard or their own rich fuck. Iron Lung made 50 million on its own
>>220979698good post
>>220980822i'm sure if kane and curry knew anything about distribution or could raise the money they needed independently they would do itmarkiplier literally just had the money to do it all himself and went for it
>>220980800curry and cooper's channel https://youtube.com/@thats_a_bad_idea/videos
>>220977051Thought top was that civicular guy zoomerrs are into now