>>220988485
>movie bombs
>Art Director: Tell me where is says I’m financially responsible

>NOOO I THOUGHT THIS FILM WAS AN INDIE PIECE OF SHIT THAT NO ONE WAS GOING TO WATCH!!!
>SO I TOOK A LUMP SUM PAYMENT INSTEAD OF ROYALTIES!!!!
>THIS IS NOT FAIR
Lol, you signed a contract saying you weren't entitled to royalties. That's your fault. You literally can't complain.

>>220988485
The studio will claim it made no money

>>220988485
>get paid to do a job for an agreed-upon amount
>get paid that amount
>"WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!?!"

If he's incensed by the movie's success not being reflected in his paycheck, why did he ask to be paid a flat rate rather than a percentage of the movie's earnings?

>>220988485
I side with rich people even though I'm poor. I'm literally dumb as fuck.

>>220988599
kek, this

>>220988599
Good for you, you disengenous queer.
You know who most people side with in a conflict though? Whoever they think is actually in the right. Not just which side most closely matches their income-level.

>>220988485
She was just one of the paid workers on the film, not the creator.

>>220988485
The movie also only had a budget of $750,000. That’s how Blumhouse operates. They produce small budget horror movies and sometimes they make a huge profit because there’s an audience for those and they spend a lot to promote them

>>220988485
what the article isn't talking about is how long he was actually required to work on the movie. it's not exactly a film that required a lot of complex sets or visuals.

but then of course this thread would be left with nothing to discuss.

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Movies like Obsession that literally make over 100x their budget are very rare

How is someone supposed to predict when one will happen?

>>220988599
i side with no one. i laugh at those who hate me's misfortune

>>220988599
>>220988616
>I side with poor people even when I know they're factually wrong, because I'm a cultist drone brainwashed into viewing literally EVERY issue and conflict as Class Warfare or some other Marxist nonsense. I'm legitimately retarded.

>>220988633
Blumhouse didn't finance the movie, they just distributed it.

>>220988641
you can only make that ratio if someone spends tens of millions getting your film in theatres and promoting it. so someone at least TRIES to predict when a movie will make outsized profits.

>>220988485
it's a fucking indie film that blew, one in a thousand
dumb bitch probably some 20yo zoomette already burning bridges instead of using this breakout success as her way to a lucrative career
crew should have bonuses but shes so dumb

>>220988633
Barker basically self financed the movie, it was fully his project. He literally didn't have the money to pay the art director. He managed tp squeeze the movie into Toronto Film Festival and it was well received there which got him a distribution deal with Hollywood, and it became a surprise hit.

>>220988599
I side with the agreed upon contract.

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>>220988485
>Be old jewish hollyjew boomers
>Refuse to let zoomer directors in on your grift because they refuse worship Israel or have sex with you for roles
>Zoomers make movies with normal budgets and without multi million dollar jew actors
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND BILLIONS THATS HOW ITS ALWAYS DONE IN HOLLYJEW YOU NEED OUR ACTORS AND OUR LOCATIONS AND OUR JEW MARKETING STOP NOOOOO

>>220988599
poor people deserve to be poor. nobody is oppressing them, they do it to themselves. the only people that don't know this are the extremely sheltered, which is why communism has become a larp for the children of the rich.

>>220988672
>He literally didn't have the money to pay the art director.
citation?

he probably just didn't pay her much because the movie didn't require very much art directing and she accepted because she didn't have other offers, its not complicated.

anyway the film is 6/10 at best and these threads fake ads for it.

>>220988485
>sign contract for $7000
>receive $7000
>later imagine you could have gotten more money
>HEEEEELP I WAS FINANCIALLY RAPED!!
Why are foids like this? Not the first time I heard a woman complain that she should get paid more only after the project was a success.

>>220988485
>w*man makes a decision
>w*man regrets said decision
>suddenly it's everyone's problem and the whole basis of our legal systems should be overturned because of her hurt feelings
Nah. Fuck her.

>>220988706
Why would you do that j

>>220988577
"I demand royalties on future profits"
"we'll hire someone else who's willing to work at our conditions then"

>>220988485
>Agree to shitty deal
>Get paid with shitty deal
>HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME??

Geg

>>220988485
Nobody owes you anything but the pay you agreed to, chink bitch.

>>220988768
Yes, if you make unreasonable demands, they'll likely hire someone who doesn't make unreasonable demands instead. Welcome to Economics 101, Billy.

>>220988485
>art director
I SLEEP

HAHAHA STUPID FUCKING CUNTING WHORE
god I hate women

>>220988599

Bogle chad

>>220988485
There was no guarantee it was going to do those kinds of numbers anyways

>>220988485
>"Art Director"
>on a movie that takes place in an entirely mundane, contemporary setting
Exactly how "creative" did she have to get when making sure the modern-day suburbanite middle-class home did indeed look like a modern-day suburbanite middle-class home?

>>220988868
This, she probably worked for a bunch of other movies which all bombed, but she never complained that she got paid too much before.

>>220988485
what does "flipping this production" mean?

The problem with retards like this is that they always want a slice of the pie when things go well, but if something flops do they offer to pay back the producer the salary they were paid? Of course not. You can't have it both ways.

>ITT bootlickers

>>220988485
the movie only had a budget of 750k and was an indie film. 1% of the budget being given to you is pretty good.

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>>220988957
>bootlickers

>>220988768
Only if you can take responsibilities for future losses

>>220988485
Not exactly shocking that a Westernized Asian woman would be leading the grievance politicking for this one.

>>220988819
how is that unreasonable?
I'm working for cheap because it's a low budget film, but what if the movie ends up making a billion dollar? I'd like a small piece of that cake too.

>>220988485
She should be proud she's part of a team in an underdog success story. There are movies that had hundreds of millions pumped into them that doesn't get that level of word of mouth.

>Agree to do work for $7k
>Do work
>Get paid
>...
>NOOOOOOOOO
Lmfao

>>220988672
>Barker basically self financed the movie
Damn, really? I thought it was that Management company that represents him that funded it.

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>>220988900
That she should have sabotaged the whole movie and prevented it from being completed

>>220988988
Would you work for free on the project and be liable for future losses if it loses money?

>>220988599
>I'm literally dumb as fuck.
Yes. Yes you are.

Art Director signed a contract. Art Director got PAID what is was owed. Art Director gets greedy, YOU think taking its greedy side is against "le rich". No, you're literally cherry picking which greedy fuck to side with.

Art Director now has a huge win on their resume for their next project, except now the entire industry now knows this person with talk shit about your project, which renders most people unemployable. Oopsie!

>>220989008
Sounds like a good way to get yourself blacklisted

>>220989008
>they only paid me $300 a day
fucking slavery

>>220988485
Is art direction what anybody was praising that film for?
Also just be happy to have a hit on your resume.

>>220988988
>how is that unreasonable?
The employers determined it was "unreasonable" considering what you'd be contributing to the deal vs. what you were demanding. I guess you better learn to offer services actually worthy of your demanded asking-price if you want that to change.

>>220989013
>Art Director now has a huge win on their resume for their next project, except now the entire industry now knows this person with talk shit about your project
This. It's a bad move.

>>220988599
Anti corporate obsession is a mental illness.

>>220988957
99% of zoomers are bootlickers, sadly

>>220989008
I mean, she should have. Imagine how much the studio would seethe if they DIDN'T get to make their $250 million because the wagie torpedoed the whole thing.

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>>220988599
>I side with black people even though I'm white. I'm intelligent as fuck
Spastic.

Financiers are speculating, hoping to make lots of money with the risk that they might also lose a lot of money.
Crew does salaried work, they get a lot less money but with the guarantee that they're getting paid.
You can't have the best of both worlds where you are guaranteed to get paid, take on zero risk, and then also profit from a successful speculation. Only a retarded Twitter communist would think otherwise.

>>220989008
What a spiteful, petty, destructive little whore.
This is why as an employer you should NEVER hire a leftshit for anything, and should hire as few zoomers as feasibly possible. Because they'll unironically ruin shit if you let them.

I do think these contracts should be worded like
>you will get [x] percentage of what the director makes after [x] amount
that way if the director ends up making more than 100k or whatever on a project everyone else involved starts getting a bonus as well. The movie was purchased from Barker for 14 million. How didn't he go back and offer a more reasonable salary for the crew that helped him?
BUT ALSO YOU SIGNED A FUCKING CONTRACT YOU DUMB FOID nobody is ever going to work with you again and you'll frame it as some empowerment "they weren't going to pay me enough anyway!" bullshit

>>220989076
SEETHING FUCKTARD

Based

>>220988738
>HEEEEELP I WAS FINANCIALLY RAPED!!
I wonder if she blocked the producers number

>>220989008
interesting write-up.
she still wasn't paid that badly.

my x00iq take is that she was told to complain publically to keep people talking about the movie. they seem to be desperate to pass Backrooms.

>>220989074
Nigga, she just did the shopping and some chores.
Someone else could have done all that, at worst, the budget might have inflated to 800k due to delays.

>>220989075
10/10

>>220989013
Who knows, maybe Barker planned on hiring her again when he undoubtedly gets a shot at a bigger budget movie. It happens with directors that make it big like Sam Raimi, they bring back crew that were loyal to them from the start.

>>220989049
>>220989013
hence my conclusion here >>220989104

it's probably just more promotion for the film.

>>220988577
The art director for a horror production expecting a wide release should be getting paid more than uh... 7000 dollars. Add a fucking 0 or something. Although ultimately Sally Choi agreed up the payment.

>>220988485
>>220989008
Yesterday her resume was "I was art director on Obsession" and productions would have been lining up to offer her a gig.
Now her resume is "I wish I had sabotaged Obsession and will burn my bridges when I don't get paid more than I agreed to". Good luck.

It would be a smart goodwill move for Focus to dish out some bonuses. It'd be peanuts considering it's still making millions every day, and it'd make their bids more attractive to other indies in the future. But they're under no obligation.

>>220989075
Genius

>>220988957
Who’s the boot in this situation? The 26 year old with a budget 1/20th the size of the average movie?

>>220988485
Contracts, bitch

>>220989074
>She should have just ruined something everyone else profited from and worked hard on out of pure personal spite, and for no benefit to herself or anyone else.
You see this? This is why modern leftist zoomers are so despised. You are PHENOMENALLY self-centered, short-sighted and mean-spirited.

AAAAAAAAAAAAH

STOP PAYING TO SEE BACKROOMS

OUR MOVIE IS """""""CONTROVERSIAL"""""""" NOW

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I wanna get outside of the autistic Ayn Rand shit
If you get a real hit, a real fortune, you should, as a personal choice, be generous. Go "Fuck it, you get a bonus." No, you don't HAVE to. I'm not arguing legalism here.

Keanu Reeves does this shit, when he makes tens of millions of dollars on a movie, he cuts out massive chunks to just give away to the fucking PAs and craft services. Hell, when David Bowie died, his will had like $50 million for his wife, $50 million for his kids, and then a bunch of neat little $1 million packages for his driver, his butler, his nanny, his hairdresser, etc.

You guys will bitch about jews all day, but this is Henry Ford shit. You know Dodge v. Ford, right? Henry Ford literally, personally WANTED to pay his line workers more, and the other car companies sued him to stop him. The Supreme Court ruled in their favor. Turned out he couldn't just do that with "his" company.

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>>220988485
>when it's her wealth that gets redistributed

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>>220989075

Just like when the director of the Brutalist said he didn’t make any money, /tv/ will just tell people making movies that they don’t deserve to get paid anything. And then /tv/ turns and starts bitching and whining when people agree to do reboots and remakes and IP slop for paycheques that allows them to, you know, afford rent/mortgage payments and maybe eat more than ramen every day

>>220989075
Brilliant

>>220988593
literally impossible considering it cost less than a million to make and not more than 10 million to market it.

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>>220989130
>I'll underpay you
>in return you can't burn everything down because you just can't okay?!
not my problem

>>220989008
>425.41 Australian Dollar dollars a day
Imagine complaining about this

>>220989008
>Jeff Barker

Why is the director's dad trying to weasel his way into every aspect of his son's new career? It's sad, he's like a 71-year-old man. He's an aspiring screenwriter piggybacking off of his son's success. Pathetic.

>>220989168
>Company collects insurance
>Other employees out of job
Nice one lmao

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>>220989075
/thread

>>220989168
Lol he's going to spend the rest of his life in a concrete rape-dungeon.

>>220989183
Don't forget
>Go to jail for the rest of your life for Arson

>>220989075
Based

>>220988485
Hire a lawyer next time dumbass.

>>220989179
Up until this very second I assumed that he was Clive Barker's kid
And I knew he was a homo so I guessed some kind of genetically engineered butt baby

>>220989168
Underpay what? She did $300/day jobs for a $300/day pay.
Sounds sufficiently paid to me,

>>220989173
yeah she's probably been given a guaranteed higher wage on the director's next film and asked to help them drum up a controvery.

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>>220989129
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>>220989075
I don't get it?

>>220988768
so what, retard? he got clout for this film, which will lead to future earnings for him

exact same reason why minimum wage is stupid. you might get paid little early on in your career but you learn skills and can get references and this leads to better future earnings

>>220988485
>art director
hilarious

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>>220989218
>>220989104
>>220989131
I can't call kayfabe on this with certainty
Part of me believes she may in fact just literally be that retarded

Like look at Terrence Howard, he wasn't doing some 4D chess thing secretly shilling for Disney, it turned out that the millionaire Academy Award winner just genuinely had a 60IQ and schizophrenia

>>220988485
Why did I immediately know it's going to be a woman?

>>220989122
Total woman moment. Who the fuck is going to hire someone whos out there saying "my last job was a success but I wish I had prevented that."

>>220988753
because i want to live in a society of law and order, not a society of niggers.
if someone agrees to buy and deliver you a lottery ticket for $5, do you owe him a million dollars if you win?

>>220989230
the joke is a woman is complaining about stupid shit she got herself into, it's entirely her own fault for not demanding higher pay while agreeing to take on additional responsibilities and she thinks she's entitled to more money and literally says she should have sabotaged the production instead.

tl;dr dumb bitch being a dumb bitch and basically just fucked her filmmaking career over

>>220988669
>instead of using this breakout success as her way to a lucrative career

Yeah that’s not how it works when you’re not the director/actor. Cinematographer for example can do an Oscar movie one year and then not work for multiple years or do completely forgettable movies for the next five unless they happen to get a other gig from the director.

>>220988485
>art director
what the fuck did the art director even do on that, it's a fucking normal horror movie set in contemporary america

She did two horrible decisions in a row.
1. Not getting a clause of bonus or cut of profit the films make into the contract.
2. Complaining about this in the first place, gonna make you harder to work with. Should've just shut the fuck up and try to land the next gig with the director.

>>220989262
People in that situation will do dumb shit like go back and give the guy 10 grand all the time

>>220989262
these dipshits don't believe in that though, they believe in democracy i.e. voting themselves stuff

>>220989300
>Not getting a clause of bonus or cut of profit the films make into the contract.
This is notoriously hard to do, although the one place you might get in is with a smaller feature like this where they expect to flop and are promising you "future revenue" in exchange for underpaying you today

>>220989282
Shopping.
No, really, she says so herself in her rant: >>220989008

she's been asked to help promote the film with some fake controversy.

>>220988753
>Why would you do that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law

>>220989168
Threatening violent or otherwise illegal "retaliation" if someone doesn't give you an arbitrary amount of money is typically called "extortion", Anon.

>>220988768
David Lynch paid residuals to basically everyone who worked for Eraserhead. You could do that type of deal in a low budget movie if you can’t afford to pay them decent wages.

>>220989339
Unless you're in charge, then it's called "taxation"

>>220988881
You can’t just throw random shit to a set and call it for the day. You actually have to put thought and effort into the visual look of rooms so that they’re not distracting and look good and work for what the movie is going for.

>>220989335
sir that's 100% retarded

>>220989300
>Not getting a clause of bonus or cut of profit the films make into the contract.
This is fantasy land nonsense. Nobody in the entire film industry is getting clauses like that except maybe Tom Cruise and a handful of other mega-stars.

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>>220989335
Not everything is a conspiracy theory
Some people really are that stupid and resentful of their own meal ticket

>>220989413
see >>220989346
>>220989318
You actually have a much BETTER chance of landing a contract like that on a first-time director's indie horror than a billion dollar capeshit installment
Same as the guys that became billionaires because they took shares as payment to work in some dude's garage startup in the 90s

>>220988918
Do you not know how employment works?

>>220989435
Does Sally Choi?

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>>220989384
I knew I was correct. thanks.
I torrented it btw

>>220989075
kek

>>220988485
how many days for that $7000

>>220989280
a cinematographer can do that if they have earned that level of pay. at the beginning we all work for peanuts, even on indie films.
>>220989318
>This is notoriously hard to do
this is not hard to do at all and is standard for the director kek

>>220989419
most of the fucking posts on this board aren't even real lmao, and you expect people not to look for ulterior motives in stuff being posted on social media?

>>220989502
20.

>>220989191
>>220989205
It's Canada. My guess is 8 years, out in 5. He'll probably have a PS3 in his cell.

>>220988957
you're completely retarded

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>>220989512
"You can't be a self-destructive, spiteful, impulsive retard, there has to be some conspiracy behind it" is too much tin foil

>>220989515
so that's completely fine
and she thinks she can say
>i kick myself every single day for not flipping this production
there's something deeply wrong with her

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>what do you say? the movie i worked on is making millions and they only paid me 7,000 ?
>OMG thos ebastards i better throw a tantrum and demand a fair share

many such cases.

Is there a watchable rip yet?

>Person who is literally forced to work paycheck to paycheck in order to live while working in a billion dollar industry talks about how shitty the industry pay situation is when you barely ever make any money and in her case she literally did multiple other jobs on top of the art director job (didn’t get paid anything for mileage so any location change etc. came from her own pocket) she was hired for and how it’s a bit unfair that when the movie is a hit and is likely to do 250x its budget that none of people who had to work for pennies to finish the thing will ever see any of that money or residuals
>/tv/:STFU BITCH GOD I HATE WOMEN WHY CAN’T THEY JUST BE GRATEFUL THEY BARELY GOT PAID ANYTHING AND SAY THANK YOU

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>>220989075
holy shit

>>220989529
I'm sure the thread here was posted by someone who just happened to see the article and think "yes that is the kind of thing the real people on 4chan will be interested to discuss". that's a totally normal thing for someone not involved in promoting the movie to do.

>itt crabs in the bucket

>>220989075
lel

>>220989008
she isn't even asking for something in particular
just complaining and saying
>we can turn a tide in this industry
what does she actually want?
>backend for indie crews (after the film is sold to a distributor)
>bonus pools
>higher minimums
???
???
stupid bitch

>>220989560
>shitty the industry pay situation is
She was making 300 dollars a DAY

>>220988485
Read it, mostly. She was paid 300 dollars a day, which is more than I've ever made. So what the fuck ever.

>>220989616
That's less than I make.

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>>220989008
sounds like a lot of important roles for a total 20 days of work

>>220989600
And doing multiple different jobs for the production without any compensation. Working on movies isn’t a steady 365 days of the year job situation, you stupid fuck. Especially when you’re forced to be a gig economy freelancer ie you can never be sure when it’s the next time you get another job after the current short term employment is over.

>>220989644
haha seethe

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>>220989539
for me it's captain panaka, because out of all of these cases i think he actually was warranted that bonus, his character did legitimately matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>220989075
This is everything

>>220988485
No way this piece of crap made $175 milli on its own. Aren't these studios buying theatre tickets still?

>>220989616
And that’s for less than a month’s worth of work, after wrapping up her production duties which she could potentially go for months without work. Because that is how unreliable and opposite of steady employment the entertainment industry is. You used to be able to get paid well precisely because it could get your through the slow periods when you couldn’t find work. She wasn’t making $300 for each 365 day of the year.

>>220989687
she didn't ever have to be an art director you know

>>220989687
She should lear to code

>>220989644
>And doing multiple different jobs for the production without any compensation
this is how indiewood works btw
also the way movie economy works is you have to seek the work out until you become known enough that offers come to you
she's just impatient and wants one movie to sufficiently cover her expenses
>>220989687
see above, it's standard practice in hollywood that you finish your time on one movie and move onto the next. it's called scheduling. this is why actors get recast all the time.

>>220988485
I just did a cheese fart everything is melting

>>220988577
The actor who physically played Darth Vader in the original trilogy never received his royalties because the movie has still yet to earn any money due to hollyjew accounting.

>>220988485
>slave labor
commie bullshit

this thread is total trash

why is this board so retarded now

>>220989743
david prowse took a shit contract is why
also he's dead

>>220989743
These are two different things, but it is funny when John Cusack brought up how Say Anything not only has lost money but continues to lose money because the studio accountants just shift debt from other movies on to the movie.

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>>220989560
Anon, you have to keep in mind that there are a lot of people in thirdworld countries posting on 4chan who would be lucky to make $7k USD over the course of a couple years. Beyond that, you have firstworld salaried workers who do not understand how project/commission based laborers work, where sure, she might make $7k from this project, but not find employment on another project for months. Also, the whole "exposure is part of the pay" is largely a meme that people use to try to drive down the pay of people they're hiring. Not to mention that if you have a bunch of low budget films on your resume, no matter how successful those projects were, you can bet that future employers (even those, maybe even especially those, with deep pockets) will think that you're used to low pay, probably not very wealthy, and still try to pay you peanuts as a result.
The reality is, though, that yeah, if she balked at the offered pay or wanted a cut of profits, they probably would have looked to hire somebody else.

>flipping this production
Someone translate this zoomerspeak

>>220989802
she's an entitled bitch for saying she should have sabotaged it you simp

>>220989743
That's why you should ask for a percentage of gross revenue, not net profit.

>>220989802
niggeranon, the bitch was paid close to $10,000 for one month's work, and got about $7,000 after taxes. shut the fuck up and stop pretending she's right lmao.

>>220989629
Happy for you.

>>220989629
As an art director?

>>220989560
> it’s a bit unfair that when the movie is a hit and is likely to do 250x its budget that none of people who had to work for pennies to finish the thing will ever see any of that money or residuals
This is an interesting conundrum because the movie would have never made that money in the first place. Who helped distribute? Who helped in marketing the movie? Who helped release it in theater? It wasn’t Choi. She just helped make it. But that’s not enough it still has to be distributed to theaters.

>art director
>for an extremely well established aesthetic that is already fully articulated
what would such a person even do to warrant being paid at all?

>>220989810
it's not zoomer speak, it's industry lingo. it means she should have fucked things up for the production and then quit and moved onto other work.

For every Obsession there's literally thousands of movies (a year) that don't even break even. Most crew people are happy to just to their job and move on the next opportunity. This chick is just butthurt because she feels like she COULD have won the lottery, but she didn't quite do it.

>>220988485
>$175 million

i mean its money laundering, right? i havent paid to see a film since top gun 2

>>220989872
as a fart director lmao

>>220989908
Yes, yes, that's right goy, the production companies do all the REAL work. Now get back in the popcorn mines.

>>220989949
how is that laundering? the film cost $750k to make, the rights were acquired for $15 million, and maybe cost another $15 million for marketing. laundering is when the movie itself costs $200mil+ to make, box office haul has nothing to do with that.

>>220990001
i think the kino building is just a front, no one goes there

there were like 15 people when i went to see top gun 2

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>>220989560
>defending the retarded
Nigger, if you want more money, ask for it in exchange for your work. If you're WORTH that money, you'll get it.
Regardless, you get the money you AGREE too. Don't like it? Don't agree to it.

>>220988485

They're paid a salary for their job.

What the fuck makes them think they're entitled to % of the box office?

Reminds me of the Napoleon Dynamite cast getting $1,000 to be in the movie then it went on to make a ton of money and they cried about being underpaid.

>>220989560
The director put up 750k of his own money knowing he mostly likely would not be able to reimburse it. Meanwhile she took on 0% risk and got paid 7k for a month's of work. If you think that's at all in any way on fair you are a communist retard.

>>220989588
Your fat ass literally doesn't even know what that term means.

>>220989157

Star Wars hasn't officially been profitable as per Hollywood accounting.

>>220990119
unfair*

>>220989989
>If I throw in some anti-semitic jargon in there, the chuds will HAVE to agree with my simping commie bullshit!
No.

>>220988485
what does an art director even do on a live action production without CGI?

>>220989989
This but unironically

>>220988768
>NOOOOOOOOO I CAN ONLY WORK ON THIS MOVIE IF THE PEOPLE RUNNING IT ARE WILLING TO PAY MY REQUESTED SALARY
>THIS IS SOMEHOW UNFAIR, THEY SHOULD BE FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL TO PAY ME MORE!
Commies are such a laughable mistake

>>220990165
>what does an art director even do
>without CGI
holy shit /tv/ is fucking retarded

>>220990120
Of course I do. This thread is full of poor people throwing a shitfit about what is in their minds the "high pay" of another, perhaps marginally less poor person, who wants better pay for her work.

>>220990254
>who wants better pay for her work
Except the issue is that she agreed to a sum and is now whining that she was paid that sum.
Stop lying & simping, bro.

>>220990254
I only see people making fun of someone who got paid the amount she agreed to get paid and is demanding more

>>220990254
"Bucket of Crabs Mentality" refers to people resenting others succeeding & trying to prevent it.
What you're seeing in this thread is instead someone being retarded & whiney and getting made fun of for it.
So, no, you don't understand what the term means.

>>220989848
And that one paycheck could easily be all the makes in a year

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>Hip Young Democrat Zoomoids when they receive their paycheck and it is exactly the amount they consensually agreed to be paid

>>220990254
Nobody in here is siding with her lmao

>>220990254
>in any disagreement you must take the side of the person whose net worth is closer to yours, it doesn’t matter who’s actually right

>>220990165
This.

>>220990363
>what the fuck is class solidarity?

>>220989075
this

>>220990380
>if I give a retarded concept some technical Marxist name it becomes unretarded
Fraid not

>>220989734
>also the way movie economy works is you have to seek the work out until you become known enough that offers come to you

It’s not a sustainable system when production numbers keep going down every year due to constant consolidation causing the business to shrink as all studios and networks end up being owed by the 2-3 different companies and they always erase jobs as “redundant”

>>220988485
>So you agree with this contract saying you will be compensated $7,000 for your work?
>of course!
>movie does better than expected
>HEY WAIT A MINUTE, NOW THAT iI THINK ABOUT IT, U DIDNT PAY ME ENOUGH FOR MY HARD LABOR REEEEE

Is this person a woman, by chance?

>>220990390
Imagine bragging this hard about being an uneducated bootlicker

>>220989588
That's literally the foid in the article. She's pitching a fit that the production & by proxy the director succeeded, and she's lamenting that she missed the opportunity to pull the whole production down when she had the chance.

Lel, way to shoot yourself in the foot with your own argument, retard.

>>220990126
the prequels and sequels sure, they cost significantly more to make and had smaller returns as a result
but the originals all made well over 10x their budgets, hollywood likes to pretend films aren't profitable despite their number sheets being made public for tax and legal reasons
next you'll try and tell me mad max isn't profitable
no matter how you try to spin it obsession is ridiculously profitable
>>220990330
yeah but sally choi isn't at that level yet where she can be paid 6 figure sums for working on one movie

>>220990380
Apparently it's "valuing income-level over logic, reason, fairness and objective facts".

...So typical drooling leftist bullshit, I guess.

>>220990403
I unironically have a doctorate degree. The fact that I disagree with your retardation doesn’t make me uneducated.

>>220988599
That why you are poor

>>220990403
>uneducated bootlickers
That's Marxists.

>>220989075
obvious samefagging

>>220989008
>humblebrags about her weight
why are foids like this?

>>220990396
and why does that happen? money laundering as the retard mentioned above, people getting stupid amounts of fictitious budgets so they can give themselves 7-figure paydays and make a film that cost half the amount. that's what is unsustainable. that's what causes studios to close and sell to the bigger distributors.
speaking purely in realistic manners, most films would cost about the same amount as obsession if you had competent producers who know how to stretch the value of a dollar and make more practical bargains with art directors (heh), prop/costume makers, location deals, etc. not to mention filming schedules being kept on time and having little to no reshoots. in fact scheduling reshoots is the exact reason why numarvel and nustarwars films cost half a billie every time, they basically end up remaking the film and cause production to take longer than necessary.

>>220990380
Apparently it's synonymous with being retarded.
Someone who is objectively right is still right, and someone who is objectively wrong is still wrong, regardless of whether we're part of the same "class" or not.
The fact that commies apparently don't believe in this is actually explaining a lot about their retarded behavior.

>>220990514
>and why does that happen?

Because the executives want the stock price go up to get their bonuses and easiest way is to do it artificially by doing media consolidation

>>220990514
you have no idea what money laundering is, do you?

>>220990544
yeahno, that only happens if the executives are sitting on cinematic goldmines, like zaslav with wb.

>>220990568
i just explained what it is but by all means tell me in your thirdie dialect

>>220990623
You are talking about embezzlement

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>>220990396
I do have to go full Laffer Curve libertard for a minute
Hollywood exists in the first place because California at the time was worthless
A bunch of jews WITHOUT an extraordinary amount of money were able to pretty easily secure a bunch of old warehouses, quarries, ranches, etc. and set up sets and cameras for the first time
It was absolutely frontier shit
They could do whatever the hell they wanted, and it was often dangerous and greedy and exploitative, but without it "The movies" wouldn't exist at all

Only when they succeeded, settled in and got rich did the regulations creep in. All of the well-meaning, high-minded stuff, more permits, more inspections, more benefits. Sometimes it was "da government." Sometimes it was the private companies - if you're a big player, it is in fact very profitable if you are able to ensure that nobody new can ever go into business. And business continued anyway, because it was profitable and because there was now inertia since the place already got built.

And now it's ending, strangled under its own weight.

Shoulda negotiated a better contract. If you can't, then you aren't in the power chair and should just be happy you got work. Maybe the lesson is "start a production company." And have two negronis.

>>220989588
I'm pissing into the bucket and laughing

>>220988485
Have the foresight to demand a % (usually by forgoing pay upfront for BELOW THE LINE crew) in the contract, or you swallow your never-promised losses by parlaying a runaway hit on the resume into better paying jobs next. The writer/director/producers own the IP!

>>220988485
1. how were they supposed to know they were making hundreds of millions? It is a small budget movie after all, reportedly around 1 million.
2. Why didn't she ask for a percentage deal?

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>>220989008
>I regret not sabotaging the movie's production and preventing it from being completed
Why the FUCK would you publicly admit to this?
Why would anyone else ever hire you again after you said that out loud?

>>220988558
Sucesss has many parents
Failure is an orphan.

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>>220990441
So who is richer
The Cubans who sided with rich people in Miami, or the Cubans who ate the rich and sided with a government that promised to take care of everything in Castro's Cuba?

>>220990755
i mean the studio certainly knew, the only competition right now is backrooms and both are killing it

>>220990833
You do know the US literally spends every day sabotaging and depriving Cuba right
The evil fucking Epstein pedo government right now is bragging about how they've cut off Cuba's electricity and fuel

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>>220988485
kinda hot desu

>>220990841
If the studio knew they would have taken loans and grants. They risked their own money because it was a passion project.

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>>220990855
>Cuba is a Hellish shithole for 60+ fucking years
>"Uhhh...this isn't Communism's fault! I-It's AMERICA'S fault!!!.."
Communists literlally NEVER learn, no matter how much they fuckin' lose.

>>220990901
>why are you bleeding? me stabbing you over and over has nothing to do with it

>>220990841
>the studio
you might be retarded

>>220990855
every other country on the planet has trade with cuba yet it still cant function without the USA. sad. at this point just declare yourself a unincorporated territory like Puerto Rico

>>220990912
>I'm gonna make an enemy of you and side with ruskies and chinks on every aspect and international discussion!
>noo!! you can't put tariffs on the oil I sell on your country!! That's sabotage! You're ruining my people's lives!!

>>220990940
This movie is waking too many men up, how did they allow it?

>>220990912
Keep blaming other countries for your failures, comrade. I'm sure blaming the CIA of whatever for the breadlines being long will make them shorter.

>>220990855
So commies are getting utterly pwned and assraped by a non-commie country, huh?

>>220990988
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>>220990972
kek the MIGA shills are working overtime on this thread

>>220990916
>you might be retarded
am i? they planned for a may release because there were hardly any other horror films scheduled to release around that time, and all callsigns for the mandalorian pointed to massive flop, this little doodah is pretty much guaranteed to make money in any opening except maybe january because it cost so little to make in the first place, and by doing a summer release they were all but guaranteed dosh on hand
>>220990886
if it was a serious risk they would have got the loans and grants you idiot, plus curry self-financed the majority of the picture, all the studio did was marketing and distribution

>>220990940
this passes as acting nowadays? this is fucking horrendous.
also imagine having to share the theater with zoomer monkeys who have their phone out the entire time.

>>220990855
How the fuck can another country "cut off" your electricity & fuel unless they're the ones giving it to your country in the first place?

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>>220991006
>MIGA

>>220990940
the more i see from this movie the worse it looks
glad guys are using it to clown on their shitty girlfriends, though

>>220990855
>You do know the US literally spends every day sabotaging and depriving Cuba right
Based. Fuck communism.
>they've cut off Cuba's electricity and fuel
How can evil capitalist cut off something that is communaly owned by all le People on Cuba?

>>220990855
Why are non-Communist Countries literally infinitely stronger than Commie ones? Apparently to the point where they can just bully pathetic fucks like you for fun?

>>220990901
>Cuba is a Hellish shithole for 60+ fucking years

It’s not though. After Castro kicked out corrupt US backed government of Batista living standards improved, healthcare improved, literacy improved. The current situation is entirely due to the US using its military to stop oil coming in from any country. It is an intentionally designed humanitarian crisis created by the US government to kill innocent Cubans same way the sanctions for the past 60 years have tried to destroy the country

>>220991055
>gommunism is the perfect system as long as literally no one ever tries to oppose it
Every commie argument I’ve seen explaining why their shitty ideology fails is that it’s sabotaged by le imperialists or counterrevolutionaries. Curious that commies seem to lose to these people every single time

>>220988485
Should have negotiated for a better contract.

>>220991096
shoulda just kept the sobiet bunion alive!

>>220991023
By using military and economic threats. The US navy is blocking oil shipments. The state department is threatening to go after Mexico etc. if they try to send in oil. The economic sanctions already make it difficult for countries and companies to deal with Cuba

>>220991096
Based USA. Whatchu gonna do, troon? Write letter to UN?

>>220988599
lol this riled up some zoomers.

>>220991119
All based btw.

>>220991195
Yet Cuba perseveres

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>>220988599
I side with rich people because poortards are annoying as fuck.

>>220988641
It should really a wake up call to studios to learn how to properly budget and not spend $200 million dollars making films that require massive amounts of success to be profitable. You can't really predict when something will become an unexpected smash hit but even a modest success will be much easier to achieve when you spend less making it

>>220991204
Good, hopefuly there is enough sanctions that it can persevere for another century.

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>>220989122
This. She's a retard. She could have easily used the film's success to launch her own despite the low pay. Hell, if she was a pleasant person and indeed did all that work she claims, the director might have been fond of her and took her along for the ride to his next features. It's not uncommon for younger filmmakers to keep key crew around that they liked working with throughout their entire career.

Now no one will hire her because she actually claimed if she's upset she'll destroy the set and halt up production. Absolute woman moment. She had the keys to becoming a possible millionaire witjin a few years, but now at best she'll get some pity shekels to shut her the fuck up, but will never work in a major production again.

Anyone defending her rent is as retarded as her. Gay as it might be you get ahead in creative businesses through social positioning more than the merit of your work nowadays. Act accordingly you dumb cunt.

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>>220991119
Why won't their Russian and Chinese allies save them. Because they are bitchass scaredy chickens?

>>220989280
Bullshit nigger, they do commercials. In fact, most backstage movie shit is just a platform to do commercials.

>>220988485
How does this headline not just read "Chink female claims she is 'entitled to more money because of reasons'"

>>220991096
>living standards improved, healthcare improved, literacy improved.
That's true for pretty much any country at any time, except during war, during the 20th century. Iran improved, USSR improved, USA improved, Israel and South Africa improved. It's a function of technological improvements not ideology.

People who worked on a successful movie should get a bonus if the movie did that well, but you should also shut the fuck up and appreciate what you have and not burn bridges in the industry.
The company burned a bridge with someone who helped make them money.
The worker burned a bridge whining that they didn't get paid an amount of money that was never promised to them.

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>>220991390
>It's a function of technological improvements not ideology.

Really explains how Cuba has better healthcare than US. How the US today is worse off on numerous fronts than many other developed countries. How age expectancy is actually going downwards now in the US which is unprecedented

>be dipshit zoomette
>fall ass-backwards into a major production role on a smash hit movie that's literally going to change the way Hollywood thinks about filmmaking
>this is a major inflection point in your career. If you play this next part right you can literally write your own ticket and work in Hollywood for decades
>do you (a) use your extremely attractive resume to leverage additional and more lucrative job opportunities or (b) throw a public psychotic shitfit that you got paid the amount you agreed to get paid and suggest that you might sabotage a production if you don't get your way
Does she have brain damage? Literally destroyed her life under zero pressure

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>>220991541
>Really explains how Cuba has better healthcare than US.
>Hasan comes to visit
>communist government turns off hospital electricity so that Hasan and his homo pals can go to a rave party

And so what if Safeway is projecting 300% gain in profits this year? The CEO deserves all of that money. If you didn't want to make 7.25 an hour then Mayhaps you should have argued a better contract for yourself upon your hiring?

>>220989318
"Notoriously hard to do". No it isn't. Its literally how producers, directors, writers, DoPs, and high billing actors get paid. Its completely normal in the business.
In this case when its lower budget film, its almost expected, honestly its kinda weird how low her salary is (but im not sure how many days of shoot they did and what was her exact role).
>>220989413
Again, you're completely wrong. Its industry standard. Screenwriters get a % cut of the screenings and syndication. So does most of the people in production. If you're writer, director and producer your cut is massive.

t. screenwriter

>>220988597
>why did he ask to be paid a flat rate rather than a percentage of the movie's earnings?
Because she didn't think the movie would be a success and probably did the bare minimum to fulfill the contract. Now that it's a commercial success she wants a huge payday.

>>220991632
go write a script on spec somewhere

>>220991685
Already am and the other one is optioned already. Can man have a break for shitposting?

t. screenwriter

>>220991722
go work for free some more then
did you also pay to win a contest

>>220991741
Optioned means i already got paid.
Anything else you want to know about the screenwriting and film business?

t. screenwriter

>>220991785
go work for free some more now
you're not in any business

>>220990841
no the studio did not know. They can hope a move ends up a success, but even the biggest marketing isn't a guarantee of it. And even if they expected Obsession to make money, I have a feeling it has exceeded those expectations by a huge margin. This is a bit of a similar situation like with Brokeback Mountain,which ended up doing far better than what anyone thought. And that one had a bigger budget to boot with a big name director.

>studios knowing anything
haha

>>220988485
>ummm I brought you your $50 steaks
>your $24 appetizers
>your $12 drinks
>and you're NOT going to tip me $45???!!

there's no studio
it's focus features distributing it after it got made first

>>220991629
Yes, you should have.

>>220991805
they know when they can recognize the quality of the movie
>>220991785
nta but get me a job you nigger

>>220990815
ok northernlion

>>220988988
>how is that unreasonable?
because i decided it is.
i dont need to give you a flow chart on how i came to that decision
i dont want to give royalties to the fucking art director and thats that.

>>220988485
>leftshit whore chink admits that Hollywood productions are secretly sabotaged if the project doesn't follow the correct politics
Well, now all of you know.

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>the art direction

>The 2026 supernatural horror film Obsession (directed by Curry Barker) had an incredibly fast production timeline, with principal photography completed in 20 days. Factoring in a few additional days for reshoots and pickups, the entire shoot wrapped in roughly one month.

imagine throwing a bitch fit over $7000 for one month of work

>>220989122
leftoids aren't know for their intelligence

It sucks but you can't predict the future.
Really the only proper thing to do is use it to advertise yourself for the next job whining publicly like this is a good way to just shut yourself out of future work.

>>220988599
I side with the Hollywood establishment because one day they'll make me part of them.

>>220992466
The AD is a faggot but you're clearly retarded and shouldn't opine on cinema.

>>220990380
>class good
>race bad
>ethnicity very bad

>>220988485
>>220990663
People in the industry are already extremely overpaid,
Even fucking craft services is Union.
It’s so hard to keep production in Hollywood Becuase it is always over paid.
And unions also make it so you are not allowed to do other jobs. So you have people that get paid $90,000 for just moving cables around and then sit around most of the day.
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>>220989122
>bonuses
Do sort of agree with you, but also consider profits are used to fund the next $,$$$,$$$ movie which is how you keep work for 1,000s of people going

>>220988485
tbf she has a point if you want to even direct a indie feature you have to expect to take no salary kind of insane expectation

>>220991180
>getting dogpiled and acting like this is a win
You stupid samefag.

>>220990485
it's grotesque

>>220992727
>Even fucking craft services is Union.
lol