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....but y'all not ready for this conversation
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Nosferatu is still scary
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thank fuck horror movies made in 2026 have mastered the art of the scare.
oh wait they are about empty buildings or something.
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Wait, this makes me wonder, do people feel the same way about early creepypastas? I actually like early creepypastas :(
Also early horror movies are still great, random youtube guy is wrong as usual
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>>220992777
Why do all these insufferable shitty ecelebs insist on putting their faces on their thumbnails or filming themselves talking even when they video has nothing to do with them? It's the most obnoxious thing in the world and makes me not want to ever give them a single view out of pure spite.
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>>220993025
anon, i hate to break it to you but jeff the killer... lets just say, it was no masterpiece...
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>>220993295
Because it has been empirically and statistically proven that those obnoxious thumbnails bring engagement. Normalfags click on those apparently. Videos with these shitty thumbnails get views all the time, they just do.
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>>220993295
Youtube metrics show those tumbnails get the biggest return.
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>>220993295
>Why do all these insufferable shitty ecelebs insist on putting their faces on their thumbnails

Because overwhelmingly the video is stolen from someone else and they are trying to overtake it in the algorithm and syphon views away. All major twitch streamers do it, so even if there is someone oblivious to this, they just copy Hasan/Asmongold/XQC style because they think it is in vogue.
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>>220992777
but five nights at freddys? TERRIFYING
that empty room? MIND FUCKINGLY SCARY
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I dont watch horror movies to be "scared" . I know it's fake
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>>220993376
This. As gay and obnoxious as it is, its a textbook case of "don't hate the player, hate the game."
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>>220993422
Jesus what a brainlet thing to say.
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>>220992820
Nosferatu is at best kind of creepy. Nothing about it is actually scary.
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no horror film should be "scary" when you're older than 11
horror movies are cool, not scary
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>>220993295
>>220993376
It's just ESLs
Despite mostly being adults, they fall for the same tricks as single-digit aged white kids, and there's billions of them
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these arenr even early ones. silent era is early. dracula is fine, especially the spanish version holds up better except the dracula actor. TCM is still fucking vile. theres like 20 minutes of nonstop screaming, which is more terrifying than any gore. and what little kills there are in it, they feel very real, blunt, raw. not even gonna click that shit.

buy an ad, OP
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The whole last half of TCM is just the girl screaming. It's a very annoying film.
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>1970s
>Early horror
Kill all of these retards dear god
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>>220992777
More like Joe Midwit
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TCM is not scary, unlike empty yellow hallways, now THAT'S terrifying.
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>>220992777
halloween 1 is borderline slop lol
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>>220992777
As opposed to the sheer horror of an empty room.
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>>220992777
Checked.
TCM sucks. 90 minutes of that dumb blonde screaming the entire time.
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>>220992777
calling the texas chainsaw massacre early horror has to be ragebait. it just has to be. nobody can be this retarded.
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Naturally the comments are full of
>DUDE IMAGINE SHOWING PEOPLE IN THE 1960S HEREDITARY
>TERRIFIER WOULD KILL A VICTORIAN CHILD!!
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>>220992820
The creepiest scene is where he flicks the light switch
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TCM is one of my favorite movies and Backrooms is better than 99% of horror movies
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>>220993483
I mostly agree. I stopped caring about whether or not a horror movie was "actually scary" a long time ago and what do you know? I'm still entertained despite not getting any of that adrenaline which is what really matters at the end of the day and in fact I enjoy them more now as a result. It's the setting and themes and atmosphere that interest me the most about the genre and some cool looking practical effects if the movie calls for it. Some of the best acting you'll ever find across all of cinema is in horror as well, actors and directors actually tend to take it pretty seriously even if the end product isn't always up to par.

Horror is timeless, imagine thinking TCM is a bad film just because it wasn't le scary. I even saw posts on Xitter where people readily admit they intentionally stay away from horror movies older than they are because of stupid shit like that and I just don't understand it.

Even Roger Ebert who rated horror films mostly based on how scary he thought they were still gave his full 4 stars to Nosferatu in 1997 because he could still recognize its merits despite not thinking it was scary the way modern horror could be:
>Is Murnau’s “Nosferatu” scary in the modern sense? Not for me. I admire it more for its artistry and ideas, its atmosphere and images, than for its ability to manipulate my emotions like a skillful modern horror film. It knows none of the later tricks of the trade, like sudden threats that pop in from the side of the screen. But “Nosferatu” remains effective: It doesn’t scare us, but it haunts us. It shows not that vampires can jump out of shadows, but that evil can grow there, nourished on death.
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>>220994186
TCM is disgusting mostly. best watched during summer so you can smell yourself and the movie
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>>220994186
>Even Roger Ebert who rated horror films mostly based on how scary he thought they were
He didn't though. Nearly every single positive review he gave horror movies he didn't find scary at all.
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>>220993519
Most white people are ES/TLs.
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>>220993688
All slashers are slop, that's the conversation nobody is ready for.
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>>220992777
This guy played an FMV game I acted in and he and his chat mocked the shit out of my performance. I'm not upset though because my performance was dogshit
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>>220992777
>looks maxxing hyper narcissist isn't scared
buy an ad.
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>>220994361
Unironically true. Entire EU is ESL.
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>>220992777
Jump scares and the fear of jump scares are the only thing that make a movie scary on a primal level.
But /tv/ isn't ready for that conversation yet.
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>>220994443
Paranormal Activity got me a bit. slashers etc don't do anything. Just fun to watch
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Subject matter of Gen z-a horror

>The back of malls
>Tall people with stuff for heads
>Dealing with emotional trauma
>Personal relationships
>Sex

Wow so scary
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>>220994760
Yeah those never appeared in any other generation of media before. In fact Gen Z invented subtext. Before 1997 all media was meant to be taken literally and never discussed at all.
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>>220994791
Muh backrooms metaphor for alcoholism because I'm trapped in my own mind
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>>220994809
That's right, Gen Z also invented metaphors. Something that never appeared in horror media until recently.
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>>220994833
You argue like a woman, but it will never be
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>>220994850
>You argue like a woman, but it will never be
Does this make sense grammatically in your native language?
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>>220992820
Do boomers really like week slow jumpscares like this and think it's scary?
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>>220992820
Based Murnau was one of the greatest
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>>220994872
There is nothing wrong with the grammar of that sentence in english.
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>>220994760
>Go to romance movie at cinema
>All the Gen Zs are screaming
>Kissing scenes are jump scares
>When the man proposes the Zer infront of me says "Ooooh he's going to regret doing that."
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>>220994933
lol maybe in your ESL brain
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>horror film comes out
>it's some combination of feminism and trauma
Why is this
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>>220993376
kind of, it's that it's more likely that the yt algorithm promotes them. chickens and eggs at this point though
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>>220993519
while I agree with your preposition, we don't live in a complete globalization world and sites have discretionary content based on region.
Which means that, if the billion pajeets click on all thumbnails that have an Ace card on them, that should have no impact whatsoever with my region. Because it doesn't.
Why would the algo give me pajeet clickbait? I wouldn't consume the content, and the pajeet ads wouldn't reflect something I could buy.
Your argument is thus defeated, if you are served shit because people in YOUR region is consuming shit in that way.
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>>220995292
I think people feel they need to attach some kind of symbolism or deeper meaning or the movie will just be disregarded as shallow or shlock. What was the last notable horror movie that was just about a freaky monster or crazy killer with little or no subtext? As for why most modern horror deals with feminism and trauma, that's just the trend these days. It was sex/innocence in the 80s
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>>220994389
which game?
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>>220992820
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>>220992820
wtf is this judeomisic bullshit??
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>>220993535
cretin
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>>220993699
swine
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>>220992777
What's he mean by "bad" ? Like how un-scary they were? Or how bad the special effects and whatnots were?
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>>220992872
well i can see an empty room or house without mindless clutter scariing a lot of women I guess.
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>>220993422
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The funniest part of this, is that this gaylord is admitting to being scared by cheap modern jumpscare slop like a teenage girl
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>>220993376
>>220993295
The reason they bring my engagement is because it taps into the parasocial tendancy people can fall in to. The phsyiogionmy helps capture people in an attention demanding climate. Oh that person looks relateable or attractive/funny like someone i'd want to hear the opinion of vs wasting the time clicking on a review video only to find the person to have some repulsive quality about them regardless of if they're entertaining enough or not or their takes are dogshit. The dumb expressions just act as filler to fit the theme of the content like having a blank mugshot stare instead is obviously more autistic and retarded.

You may not engage in content based on thumbnails in this way but you've most likely done this at least once where the vibe or look of the person just screams honestly nahh i cbf'd watching this useless slop for 10 mins. Be thankful they're trying to actually help your subconscious narrow down the choice you make with engaging with content.
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>>220997750
I thought modern horror was all about the gay ass psychological slow burn? Older horror movies are filled with cheap jumpscares
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>>220993535
Turner classic movies?
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>>220997627
>>220992777
what does he mean by "scary".
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>>220992777
I hate zoomers

t.30 year old zoomer
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>>220997858
Normal dictionary definition of the word scary
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>>220992777
like comedy back in those times, it amazes me how the masses were scared and amused by this slop. I can't hate on the fact that they had to work with what they had technology and makeup and other innovative ways of capturing elements in film were back then but the fact remains that the audience still received it well. It's more evident in comedy like yeah i get jokes being relateable with the times people then would have experienced but there's just too much of it where in no way shape or form could this ever be funny no matter what time period you were born. So basic, reserved and stripped down of any creative and comical elements.
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>>220993376
Normalfags deserve to be gassed and thrown in concentration camps.
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>>220993483
The Descent is legit scary.
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>>220998039
And in one hundred years people will say exactly the same thing about anything made today
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>>220992777
I hate people whose measure of success for any horror movie is "did it make me shit and piss uncontrollably". Of course a shitty sloppa that can't even do that fails on every front, but I don't think it's unforgivable sin for a horror movie to not scare me.
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>>220998151
I'd argue plenty of media gets the valid criticism it gets today. Most examples of media I found scary or funny that i've looked back on as being incredibly dated and actually really bad were just cause i was a literal teenager or child. I think the public doesn't even receive it that well anymore because there's good reason comedy movies have been on the decline over the years. Everyone's much more aware of how hard it is to actually make good comedy.
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A Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, The Thing. Which of these is the scariest? Not which is the best or most entertaining, but which, if any are actually scary?
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Holy fuck Joe
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>>220992777
>y'all not
ebonics
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>>220998316
The Thing, that moment where one of the guys is doing CPR. Body horror can still get me, but it's a different feeling than being scared I suppose, it's more like an instinctual revulsion than a fight or flight response.
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>>220993422
>>220993483
>>220994186
If a horror movie isn't scaring me then I can still enjoy it for its general vibe and cinematography and all that. But ideally I do want it to actually scare me. I want to feel dread during tense buildups and I want a fight-or-flight adrenaline shock response to jumpscares. And it does still happen thankfully, at least sometimes.

If movies aren't doing it for you, try some games. Particularly ones where you're relatively defenceless (Amnesia, Alien Isolation, SOMA). In games you have a sense of presence and active involvement/responsibility so scenes that wouldn't be particularly scary to watch can feel a lot more intense to play.
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>>220998316
The Thing is definitely the best, but I always thought of it as more of a thriller with horror elements than a straight up horror movie
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>>220992777
Can people who say horror movies aren't scary please list the movies they find scary? The core problem is just becoming jaded, which happens at any age depending on how much horror shit you watch.
Jump scares became so overused because it's the only way you can get jaded audiences to react, and if they react they think it's scary. But as we know it's not actually scary, it's just exploiting a reflex.

>>220998039
>It's more evident in comedy
Not sure if this is true. Buster Keaton has aged well. Laurel & Hardy's schtick is shit they're still trying to do in comedic movies and shows, usually worse. I'm not a Stooges guy though.
Certain types of comedy get dated very fast, I'll agree. I was going to say spoof films, thinking of the new Scary Movie, because each of those is like a time capsule of references, but then I remembered Airplane! and it's also a spoof with a ton of references but it's aged incredibly well because the core of the movie is word games and visual gags that are pretty much timeless.
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>>220992777
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
https://xcancel.com/veizau/status/2053938427285123234#m
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>>220998484
I think it is hard to not get desensitized to horror for some people. There were movies that got a lot of scares out of me as a kid that don't really spooky me at all anymore like the Elm Street movies, though I can still appreciate the atmosphere and practical effects like other anons mentioned. I think horror often works best in small doses. I think The Raft segment from Creepshow 2 still holds up as being scary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyb8Ko-wOLE
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>>220998484
Yeah Scary movie is exactly one of the more modern ones that came to mind as being completely unfunny and dated that came to mind that I could have only ever found humorous having the mind of a literal child, whether i get the references or not. Now in the internet age look at the current release, it's deservedly being criticized for the unfunny boring slop it is without having to be date 100 years. The bar has just been set way higher. standup comedy is much different though as to why slop comedians succeed because I think audiences are also seeking political and social validations than actual humour. Plenty of them get roasted to shit though.
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>>220992820
>here's the scary vampire I was telling you about
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>>220998524
Look at his scrawny little shoulders. What a fucking faggot.
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>>220992777

The trend of Zoomers looking back at any period in history and rating it like a google review is fucking hilarious.
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>>220998316
In order:
The Thing
Elm Street
Halloween
Friday the 13th

I remember seeing The Thing at around 10 and I was so scared, my body physically hurt.
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>>220996473
The Joker's Game, should be able to find his stream pretty easily
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Why should I care about what some faggot on Youtube spews out of that shithole he calls his mouth?
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>>220992820
Oh shit that guy got under the covers, the monster is gonna have a hard time getting him now!
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>>220992777
Isn't this the guy that said niggers only commit crimes because they are poor? Rape and murder too I suppose as well.
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>>220998524
You see, it's all about the implication. I'm sure he'll understand if a nigger rapes his girlfriend. He's poor after all. It was foisted upon him.
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>>220992777
Let me guess? Racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, MAGA-coded, conservative, punching down, therefore not scary?
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>>220998524
ahh he's a cuck, that explains things
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>>220993376
Videogamedunkey doesn't have to do that
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>>220992777

Growing up on 80s slasher flicks as a kid, you get so desensitized to them that no horror movies are scary anymore, new or old. It's more about how enjoyable it is.
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My wife basically grew up with hippies and hardly watched tv at all. She enjoys TV and movies a lot now though. But once we watched plan 9 from outer space and she legitimately thought it was scary.

Basically, if your brain hasnt been fried from staring at a screen 10 hours a day for 35 years then you might have a different perspective and one closer to that of people who lived 80 years ago
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>>220992777
Texas Chainsaw Massacre is still scary as fuck. Zoomers never go outside so nothing is scary for them.
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>>220992777
scary movies haven't been "scary" since the 70s when rape, torture, and gruesome mutilation were expected from horror. those films are downright uncomfortable to watch at best
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>>220998316
Depends on age of first watch but in general

The Thing
A Nightmare of Elm Street
Halloween
Friday the 13th
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>>220993535
>The whole last half of TCM is just the girl screaming. It's a very annoying film.
yes
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>>220993422
>I dont watch horror movies to be "scared" . I know it's fake
yeah...the last cool era that had great style was the Italian giallos...American thrashers copied it, but just aren't nearly as good
i loathe the modern "horror"
they're girl movies
something like Lynch is far, far fucking moodier, interesting and more fun than anything modern "horror" will ever be
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>>220998151
>And in one hundred years people will say exactly the same thing about anything made today
in 100 years? i haven't enjoyed a single film in decades... the artform is dead
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>>220994952
kek
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The Exorcist is probably one of the few "old" horror movies that still almost entirely holds up today. The opening sequence is pure kino and sets the tone perfectly and the scares and creepy moments are fantastic still
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>>220992777
>make a reaction video
>put your face on it
>it's actually just some other guy's video
>no mention of it being a reaction anywhere
>thumbnail makes it look like it's maybe a video essay rant video that he made
lol
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>>220992777
I don't know how a zoomer trash opinion like the OP exists
I just finished Iron Lung, fresh fresh 2026 Horror "modern" new out of the oven.
One of the least horror inducing movies I've ever seen.
It's so fucking stupid and underwhelming.
And 90min too long.
But sure sure, "old horror is bad" alrigh
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I have the one and only correct take.
Whether or not a movie is scary depends on a single thing. Is it immersive? The only way a movie can scare you is when you get so immersed that you forget it's a movie. Anything that pulls you out and tells you ''this is a movie'' prevents you from getting immersed.
If you watch a well made movie you become like a zombie staring at the screen forgetting where you are. Then you can be startled, you can feel tense.
Things that are not meant to be scary can scare you if you are immersed. I used to play San Andreas and I got so immersed that when I fell I could feel tension in my entire body feeling like I am about to hit the ground and die.
A well made horror movie doesn't have to try to be scary, it has to pull you in. Then it can show you anything. Just a guy standing in a hallway will give you the creeps.
Stuff like doing the quiet camera pan and then a black cat jumps out with a loud noise is not scary because you can see it happen, when you see it, it pulls you out of the movie. You see the camera moving slowly and you go ''ok, this is a movie and the scare comes in 3...2...1''
The Exorcist was pretty good because when you watch it you can just get immersed. The Thing too.
That immersion is the only reason The Blair Witch Project was successful. It's the ultimate proof that you can make a fucking terrible movie with nothing scary, make dogshit but it feels real and the viewer gets so immersed that a guy standing in a corner freaks them out, because they are there in their mind.
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>>220992820
The Nosferatu in Are You Afraid of the Dark scared me big time when I was a kid
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He says in the video that the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre sucks and that People in the 60s would react to movies like Hereditary or Sinister like the people who ran out of the theater for that train short from the 1890s. He’s retarded and genuinely has no comprehension of cinemas history.
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>>221004168

That's like people who say that Lebron James would beat everyone in the 60s era basketball. It's a retarded suggestion because Lebron James doesn't exist as he is unless the game that preceded him existed, which wouldn't have existed if the generation before it didn't exist and so on.

Naturally things evolve, when you watch things from a bygone generation, you do so with that understanding or else you come up with arguments like that. That doesn't mean there aren't films or athletes which transcend the context of their time. I thought the original Cape Fear was vastly superior to the remake, and I saw the remake first.
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>>221004168
>the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre sucks
fair. people were just as vulnerable to shock tactics and gimmicks back then.
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the door slam sequence was scary.

https://youtu.be/_-eEAdbiZi8
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Any youtuber who puts his / her own face in the thumbnail is not worth watching and is a fucking retard
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>>221005039
You're the fucking retard for not understanding why that's necessary.
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>>221005058
it's because most goyim are NPC monkeys
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>>221005058
>he doesnt watch only youtubers who dont
>he thinks it actually is necessary
grim
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>>221004168
they would
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>>220994971
Imagine being American, holy fuck.
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>>221005231
and they still have better grammar comprehension then whatever this dude is, grim
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>>220993688
> halloween 1 is borderline slop lol
The commitment to simplicity, music and the Captain Kirk mask elevates it beyond that and I’m not even particularly fond of it
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>>220992777
He looks like he got face fucked by a bunch of mongoloids
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Horror films in general aren’t scary. You know what’s scary? My once majority White town being taken over and my cousin getting shanked by a Somali.
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>>221003397
>didn't watch the fucking video award
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>>220997827
>phsyiogionmy
holy dyslexia
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>>220992777
>early
>1970s
Youtubers deserve death.
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People who watch horror movies obsessively are stricken with shit taste. Classic horror and suspense movies are great because they're more than cheap shocks and tryhard "terrifying" imagery.
I work with a retard who loves horror movies, and these "people" just have abysmal shit taste. They'll watch fucking anything if it's in the genre, doesn't matter how cheap, how pointless, how stupid it is. This guy heard that I liked movies, and so he would tell me about the slop he had watched.
>describes to me the cheapest, most inane sounding direct to DVD movie ever
>even he admits the thing was stupid but he keeps saying he enjoyed it
>he's just talking about how cool it was when the overdone gore scenes happen and the plot basically isn't resolved at all and blah blah blah
>telling me all of this with a lot of enthusiasm
>I just say "I think you and I watch movies for very different reasons" and never speak to him since
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>>220992777
They're not to the modern eye/mind, who's been desensitized with violence on TV thanks to war, terrorism and all that shit. But they havean inherent charm that modern ones lack, and they had a SOVL, even if they were made for profit first.
Modern slop like pretenttious A24 flicks, "elevated horror" and all that crap don't hold a candle to Universal Monsters, Hammer Horror, Italian gothic movies and gialli.



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