I'm 36 and haven't done that

>>220993317
>Someone posts on Xwitter about zoomers taking over Hollywood
>"WHY IS 4CHAN OBSESSED WITH MAKING IT WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG??"

>>220993317
Jealousy

>>220993417
I could have had ass!
I could have been a contender!
Instead of a chud, which is what i am, let's face it.

>>220993317
>Why is the concept of succeeding in your 20s so shocking to this board?
Majority of this website's populace are loser uncs. Millennials will lose all cultural relevance within the next 5 years. Raped generation. Funny, but also sad.

>>220993317
None of these guys spent their entire adolescence playing world of Warcraft

26 today was 14 in the early 70s

>>220993317
Welles, Spielberg, Scorsese and Raimi didn't just copy an internet meme.
They worked hard to create something.

>>220994826
Jaws was based on a book, so was Jurassic Park. Indiana Jones and Star Wars were based on old serials. If you follow the source material, these are also based on memes. You'll find the same thing if you trace the other directors. Psycho was based on Ed Gein. The big landmark films are all based on things people know. People like familiarity.
It's a cliche to say there's nothing new under the sun but it's true. All that really matters most of the time is your ability to tell a story using your ideas. Which I will say zoomers are not very good at because they tend not to be very worldly.

>>220993821
Fucking losers, bet they never made a monsterkill either

>>220993317
We have been in an age of stagnation for a while. This is how that we can get back on the right track.

>>220993317
The problem is that the film industry has become so incredibly stagnant that middle aged is now considered being an up and coming youngster.

>>220993486
jealousy of insanely good luck, not talent

>>220993821
Fuck you, anon!

>>220995694
>old pieces of media exist so that means they're memes
yeah i don't think you know what "meme" means

>>220993317
I dont care about success and productivity.
Even if i was born as a super gifted talented artist I wouldnt use my talent to enrich the world and please people with my art. Why should i give it to them? Theres no reason for it. Let people rot and die with mediocrity, let them live in their gray muddy dull and colorless life, who cares; if i was born as an artist i'll use my skill and talent in art to please myself, and a split second before i die i would burn my art so that people couldnt enjoy it

>>220993317
I think there's a huge distance between something like Citizen Kane or Boogie Nights (both movies made by guys in their 20s) and two FOTM horrorslop getting astroturfed by shills

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>>220993317
Curry Barker already had experience with filmmaking, I came across his skits on youtube shorts and they looked very professional, like a tv show, so he clearly has plenty of technical knowledge and skill, also his film was self-funded as far as I know and completely independent, which goes in line with some of those early 70s and 80s filmmakers that did it all on their own

The other guy had A24, James Wan, Osgood Perkins and Shawn Levy backing him, also 10 million dollars, also his movie is based on an internet meme that already had popularity
So I see the backrooms zoomer being more of a one trick pony and Curry Barker having a legitimate filmmaking career down the line

btw I haven't seen either of these movies

>>220996065
Whats the story with Curry Baker? I remember seeing his skits and thinking it was odd how professional they looked, like not just shot with a nice camera and graded well, but actual locations/extras/actors/sound design etc. it reminded me of Almost Friday TV which was another over-produced sketch comedy channel that turned out was funded by Mark Cuban. If he’s truly independent, whats his story for producing content like that? Maybe if you were born in LA/NY and went to some private art school as a kid. The backrooms kid’s trajectory makes more sense, because those blender shorts are something a kid can make. The Curry Baker skits felt like a production house.

>>220995988
the difference is that those are dramas and couldn't make any money in current year. so we'd probably never even be aware that they'd been released as promoting a movie costs $20+ million dollars for the US alone.

There was a MASSIVE cultural, social, and technological shitf during the late 2000s and 2010s, which was while Gen Z was still kids, and Millennials were trying to enter the workforce. There was also a massive economic downturn, which meant millennial creatives who followed the typical "cog in the machine" after college found it hard to find work, and companies did not want to take risks on them.
If Kane Parsons had been born in the late 80s or early 90s, he would not have had access to a 3D modeling program as a kid, nor the wealth of free online resources from which to learn, nor a platform from which to make money or get "discovered." He'd probably have been making shitty flash animations on Newgrounds as a teenager, made some triple digit view home movies for YT (after that was actually created, of course), gone to film school, gotten a job at Starbucks, and if he were lucky, maybe eventually found a job at a commercial studio or occasionally found work as some low-end VFX artist for a film production company.
Similarly, if the guy who directed Smile had been born 10 years later, he would have been another "breakout zoomer horror director."
Millennials got fucked pretty badly by timing.

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>>220996065
if you have money and can fund stuff you just need to not fuck up enough to get decent technical people to keep coming back to work for you, its not complicated.
but making a film well is so much work that most people would never be able to manage it even with the money so it doesn't happen frequently.

>>220993317
Oh shit I've seen Curry on YouTube before
I had no idea he was a director

>>220995890
"Memes" was not the important part of the post I was replying to. It was "copying something". It talked about "creating something".
I even anticipated this argument that memes are somehow the important part or a large part of it, that's why I highlighted that the works they were based on were rooted in memes. That's different from saying that the old works ARE memes, that's not what I'm saying. Shark attacks, dinosaurs and scientists being defeated by their own hubris, the heroic archetypes in old serials - these are all memes. I was not saying that serials, or the Jaws book, ARE memes, but that they USE memes, and the movies based on them also use the source memes (on top of any cinematic memes and references). The exception might be Ed Gein.
I also highlighted the actual distinction between old and new directors, which is the ability to use these elements to tell a story. Do you disagree?

>>220995890
What Internet meme is obsession copying? And in the case of backrooms, why does it matter if the idea for the film came from copying a book or copying a random post on the internet that had an interesting premise?

>>220993317
>Orson Welles made Citizen Kane at the age of 25
yeah and it was a pretentious turd

>>220996289
That might actually be the exception of someone actually creating something new at 25, just being so naive and experimental and talented and maybe a bit lucky that you just invent a bunch of the language of cinema. I don't think it belongs on everyone's top 10 list but it did pioneer a lot of the art of cinematography so it's historically significant.

>>220996343
>invent a bunch of the language of cinema
you mean gregg toland did? you haven't seen any other 30s or 40s cinema if you think the things kane did were groundbreaking-watch dodge city right now

>>220996374
"My bad"

>>220993804
>uncs
zoomer niggers never even entered the race

>>220996457
don't get snippy with me, kiddo. watch dodge city right now

>>220996478
I believe you I just thought I would add a little levity

>>220993317

feel bad for both of them I hear they're alreayd getting jew'd out of profits for being goy

>>220996286
Obsession is copying The Simpsons.

>>220996663
Elaborate.

>>220993317
Cause back then The Greatest Generation didn't gatekeep everything for themselves like Spielberg and Scorsese who are a kajillion years old.

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>>220993529
I wanna make it. I am good for something. I have so many creative ideas, a million each day.
But i am trapped in a prison of my own making.
Someone help

>>220996710
Explain the indie boom of the 90s where plenty of new young filmmakers broke into the industry

>>220993317
>two shitty horrors
>succeed

>>220996801
Good economy

>>220996213
Curry Barker is a nepo baby through his father, Jeff Barker, who worked in television for almost a decade. Don't know why that's never mentioned.

>>220993317
Those movies were actually good and unique

>>220996904
wtf but shill anon told me his father was a literal who!!

>>220993317
Backrooms is basically the new Citizen Kane

>>220993317
The absolute fucking state of the film industry

>>220993317
>go from kino to slop
Not looking good, hollywood bros

Orson Welles worked his way up through theatre first
Spielberg is a fucking jew, he doesn't count
Scorcese went to Tisch and worked his way up doing a bunch of odd jobs on a bunch of small movies before directing
Sam Raimi basically panhandled everyone he knew to raise enough cash to make The Evil Dead
Curry Baker I have nothing against, his story is probably most similar to Scorcese's. Film school, bunch of small projects, then scrape together some funding for a small low-production-value indie movie that happens to make a lot of money.

Not one of them was given 10 million dollars (or its inflation-adjusted equivalent) by major-league entertainment companies for their first-ever feature film, without ever having done anything that wasn't sitting behind their desk. If you believe Kane Parsons directed Backrooms then you've been worked.

>>220993317
Grim

>>220993317
Alexander the Great conquered the known world back in his day, all before 30 I believe.

>>220997109
>Not one of them was given 10 million dollars (or its inflation-adjusted equivalent) by major-league entertainment companies for their first-ever feature film

pretty sure the $10 million was released only after the script was written (with another writer). the script is what secured the $10 million, it's really great.

it's still totally possible for anyone to write a script and get it bought by Hollywood and made for $10+ million, it just needs to be good and have an obvious built-in audience. directing it is harder but Kane had shown he knew how to direct sequences and his story is very marketable.

>>220997200
>his story is very marketable.
This is the only part of your post that matters. The rest is the story.

>>220993317
>visionary, groundbreaking movies went from Citizen Kane to a fucking internet meme movie

>>220993317
I don't think any zoomer of today could come up with Citizen fucking Kane or Boogie Nights, they can only come up with shit like Backrooms or Obsession, horrorslop for simpletons

>>220997236
I meant "his story" as in "20 year old directs successful movie based on Youtube shorts he made". the thing is that that's only marketable if a viable script is written based on the Backrooms concept. one was, and that's what got $10 million.

but writing and good movies is all that matters, I don't give a fuck if the entertainment industry is nepotistic if movies this good are an outcome. if his next movie sucks he'll immediately start to lose the halo.

>>220997285
actually Orson Welles didn't come up with Citizen Kane, Herman J Mankiewicz did. I guess Orson was just another nepobaby.

>>220993317
Movies are so awful now lmao

>>220995890
The original idea for the backrooms which was posted on 4chan which is social media. This is still a form of media.

Because boomers spent the last 50 years holding every other generation down.

>>220993317
orson wells was born rich, raimi and spielberg are jews

only Scorsese made it on his own.

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Ugly men should die.

>>220997287
Yeah, and it's just a story, and it's just marketing. Studios may buy spec scripts, but they don't let the writers direct the film, that's insane. The film was directed by some combination of Wan, Perkins and Levy, and the script was rewritten by Soodik. Parsons was taken along for the ride because it was very cheap, very effective marketing designed to elicit exactly your reaction.

I mean how do you think Parsons directed this movie? In practical terms, how did he do it. He's never worked with a cinematographer before. He's never worked with a casting director before, hell he's never cast anyone before. He's never interacted with an art director or a production designer. He's never even used a real camera. This film has 22 producers, some of them highly respected successful horror directors, and you think TCG and A24 put up 10 million dollars so Kane Parsons can learn how to direct a film?

>>220996801
Blockbuster allowed movies to make money on the back end cause they had "legs". It's how Boondock Saints, Office Space, Fight Club, and even Shawshank Redemption got their profits.

>>220993317
>>Steven Spielberg made Duel at the age of 25
just watched that yesterday!
man that's a great movie.

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>>220993317

Gerontocracy is a bad thing. Alexander the Great conquered most of the known world in his 20's.

Look at what Silent Gen and Boomer demolished the American Empire from within.

>>220993317
(((fatigue)))

>>220996065
He definitely understands shot composition and lighting

>>220993317
Taking a bad creepy pasta and turning into a flick isn't an achievement. 99% of the work was already done.

>>220993317
Neither of these movies are that good though.

>>220997414
>they don't let the writers direct the film, that's insane.
they often do actually, those people are called "writer-directors".

my point is: stop worrying about meaningless shit. I don't fucking care if a movie has as many directors as Gone With The Wind if its a good movie. I don't care if Parsons directed a single scene. you are being a retard for caring about the media lying to you when literally all they do 100% of the time is lie because lies are the content they monetize. stop worrying about it, accept the world as it exists and enjoy what there is to enjoy.

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>anon me got a dui at 25 and licenses suspended for 2 years

>>220997909
good, less time for driving, more time for grinding

>>220993317
>to this board
What? I've never seen any /tv/ anons complain about the director's age. This is normslime reaction from social media.

>>220997941
idk i just like making shit up for /tv/ to argue about