>>220998002
it never paid off for the tourists
conversely, actual star wars nerds that were permanently obsessed with the franchise and had nothing left to lose, they just wanted to argue

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>>220998002
What is there even to defend? Once picrel happened, you have nothing over the prequels.

Based on streaming numbers, there's no actual sequel defenders. It was just devils advocate people and that can't sustain a fandom. Nothing about the sequels inspires the level of autism the originals and prequels had. The sequels needed to be as big of a shock to the system and overall story if it wanted to have the staying power of the prequels an overcome its own bad writing.

>the problem was no plan

They're still coping. Safe take that unites TFA and TLJ defenders

>>220998002
I've literally never seen someone defend the sequels that wasn't the type to like them as a political statement.

>>220998002
This isn't completely wrong but it goes back further to a lot of other cultural shifts in the media.

>>220998002
>if cultural Marxists didn't engage in cultural Marxism then society wouldn't be shitty right now
Unbelievable detective work, Zenigata. Maybe you'll finally catch Lupin.

>>220998002
This tweet sounds right, but basically it all comes down too the extreme disrespect of human lives from liberals and talking down to people and taking glee in ruining their favorite things because nerds and chuds and conservatives during Obama were treated as subhuman.

Art like life is precious. You get precious few chances to change lives for the better in this world, to flippantly make crappy and intentionally awful and infuriating art like they did with Joker 2 and Sequel Trilogy, it is an affront to the sacred duty filmmakers share to make the most out of every opportunity. If they had simply made a bad movie we might have said oh too bad, Disney was broke, or maybe they should have had more practical effects to sell the scenes or maybe they are just a bit creatively bankrupt. That would be okay.

However, to just slap nerds hard in the face to just show cultural dominance felt so immensely transgressive. It was like GamerGate for movies.

This vibe is what turned normal and shy people into full Trump Supporters, we needed to feel vengeance on those people who bully us and take glee in our suffering, by defiling what we loved. Trump existed to shit on every liberal who thought they were better than us.

>>220998002
My headcanon is the GenZ boss and a mini was the butterfly

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Disney themselves barely make any sequel era EU content.
It's hard to be a shill if there's nothing to shill to begin with.

>>220998002
I had a similar thought last week but more to do with dates. It's 2016 he got elected the first time, so TLJ etc don't matter for that. But, if they hasn't rushed so much to get TFA out in 2015, and had it come out 2016 December instead, people who need to be hyped about something and got on the Trump train might have been on the "new star wars" train instead in November

>>220998167
Liberals also just discount the silent majority of people who vote red.
There's obviously a higher percentage of blue voters who are vocal about it, versus people who don't talk about politics at all, and yet still vote.
When they started going after people with "no" opinion or general centrists, it was just over for them.

>Somehow, they made it about Trump again...
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You can directly trace Obama's election to Star Trek Voyager. And then the death of Star Trek in the early 00s leads to JJ Abrams rebooting it, which leads to JJ being trusted with Star Wars so the past 2 decades of American have possibly been shaped by decisions made by Rick Berman and Brannon Braga.

Although tbqh I don't remember there being massive cultural shitflinging about TFA like there was with TLJ which was after Trump got elected. Ghostbusters 2016 is the film I'd pin as the film that birthed the "own the libs" aspect of MAGA.

It's funny how South Park tried to portray it as voting for Trump is the same as supporting the Star Wars Sequels when irl it was the complete opposite.

>>220998123
this, none of the sequel defenders are based on plot or character development. It's because sequel haters are racist sexists and only good pure people defend the sequels.

>>220998002
How the Fuck would the Sequels being good prevent Trump from being president? This is as stupid as saying that Brexit wouldn't have happened if Jurrassic World were good.

>>220998002
Absolutely nothing fun or interesting about it and zero money behind any further marketing of future products. Mando Gordo is a perfect example. Nobody cares anymore except the emotional lefty guys that liberal women hate to date.

>>220998002
>Trump is president because some scifi movies werent as good as they could have been
?????????
These "people" are insane.

>>220998571
They’ll blame anything but their bad ideas, just look at Yidsney

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>>220998167
It's all downstream from Gamergate. Once you fucked with the nerds politics could never be the same. People realized the power of activating these people and how to do it and applied it to the country. Prior to that, you just dealt with the boomers and their absolute ambivalence to politics. Picrel was how politics was viewed prior to Gamergate.

>>220998571
People aren't ready for this truth but twitterrace is far more deranged than 4chan is.

>>220998002
How can you be this late to notice that everything from media to politics has been a nonstop flow of gay retarded shit that has ruined everything and all the people responsible know each other personally.

>>220998571
yeah, but look at the chuds who think this makes sense because they were cyberbullied or something

>>220998167
gamers having to play with a female character is the real opression

>>220998599
It’s funny because politics really is picrel but now people think they’re really fighting to save lives at the ballot box and getting super stressed out while government overreaches everywhere no matter who takes office.

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>causes the war in Iran
thanks a lot, Finn

>>220998660
Salient point.
>>220998709
Nobody thinks that makes sense except the

>>220998071
I mean yeah. The sequels are just completely indefensible. Some people still swear that The Last Jedi is a good movie but considering Rise of Skywalker negates it almost entirely, it doesn't even matter

>>220998002
Are there people that only pay attention to Star Wars? Those sequels were not an isolated incident.

>>220998301
>Ghostbusters 2016 is the film I'd pin as the film that birthed the "own the libs" aspect of MAGA.
Yeah, it's that.

>>220998769
True. They just changed the characters involved and how they talk. But the policies remain the same no matter the outcome. If any real policy changes, it has nothing to do with election results and more to do with how external circumstances changed.

>and getting super stressed out
This is actually one of the reasons democracy is bad for the normie. They have no control over policy but feel like they have to be invested anyways or people will die or some shit. When in reality they are no different from the farmers and herders of yesteryear except now they have added made up stress as their lives get worse and worse.

I like how they were only able to celebrate Biden winning for like 3 weeks before they began a civil war over whether they could admit he had alzheimers or not, and then those 4 years might as well have never happened anyway and everyone on either side treats it like it's been 10 years of trump in office

>>220998002
a guy I went to highschool with whose a literal (((DNC))) DC senate staffer hated the nu sequels with such vitriol anytime you so much as mention them he goes into a rant
no actual living person defends these hunks of shit
the only "people" who defend them are retards on twitter and bots and indians disney pays to post on the internet

>>220998904
The “everyone is a pedo except the president who showered with his daughter” was absolutely insane and they never recovered, more than any media Biden/Kamala era is to blame

>>220998808
Each one negating the last only compounds that effect, too. TFA was bad but was just a beginning. TLJ negated the mysteryboxes of TFA and shat on what wasn't shat on in TFA, but hey you could say that if you went all in on this concept of destroying the past in the next one then the concept could have some merit and be redeemed with a good movie 3. Once Rise of Skywalker negated TLJ and replaced it with stupid shit again, then none of it mattered and you just have 3 stupid movies that accomplished nothing but shit on the original trilogy.

>>220998878
except literally no one actually gave a shit about that piece of shit but retards on twitter and the
"hate posts" were a made up controversy by the studio

>>220998953
If you wanna fuck up anything royally, put women and men that wanna be pegged in charge of it.

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>>220998123
Yeah the sequel hate wasn't politically motivated at all.

>>220999016
>except literally no one actually gave a shit about that piece of shit but retards on twitter
True.
https://youtu.be/kcvxMGnptvw?si=WktDT_sgJE3rXaCr

>>220999064
So what do you like about the sequels?

>>220999064
Hating a bad movie didn’t used to get you labeled any particular side of the political spectrum they were just bad movies let it go

>>220998002
>A non-zero chance that Trump wouldn't even be president right now

Wtf does that even mean? I read that 4 times and don't understand. Zoomers are so fucking retarded they dont even know how to write a sentence. Let me cross out the double negatives
>I think there's a 0% chance that Trump would be president right now if the...
That's not fucking better

>>220999064
why are you acting like his inclusion wasn't politically motivated?
they drop his ass from the posters and dropped him from being a relevant character when someone told them chinese people don't like blacks

>>220999064
In retrospect /tv/'s kneejerk reaction of just posting the ugly nig over and over was justified and you really didn't need to go any deeper than that to know this would be trash. Everything from the 3 movies is that pic in a nutshell.

>>220999104
You could just tell they gassed up Boyega and that Chinese girl like they were gonna be the new Han and Leia or something and fucking nobody liked either of them one bit, none of the toys sold, and every movie had a totally different direction because they couldn’t find a single thing that stuck with any audience, everything was such a spectacular failure

>>220998002
There was a climate of fear for an entire year where people were afraid to say star wars was shit when the last jedi came out. Disney must have paid for 100s of articles saying everyone who thought the new films were shit was a member of the alt right. This made people who would have been critical of them afraid to say what they really thought. I think eventually the fear just abated to a point people were willing to say they were dogshit.

I recall a big tipping point being when Disney producers started making fun of that manchild star wars theory on you tube crying about Luke being in the mandalorian. Cause until that point he along with others was still twisting themselves in pretzels defending Disneywars.

>>220999094
I thought your post was sounding dumb, and yet it managed to get so much dumber.
>a 0% chance that Trump would be president right now
That isn't what it means. Try again now that you have this 'clue'.

>>220998167
they should just admit when something was simple shit, like TFA was average to unispired, while TLJ was outright terrible but they couldnt just take the L and admit it was really bad, they had to make it a political statement to suppor this shitty movie, the same with Dark Fate and other shitty movies.

>>220999196
The symptom can’t cause another symptom you retard

>>220999094
>people shitting on zoomers are brown thirdies (and possibly jealous zoomers)
shocker

>>220999094
"A non-zero chance" is just a long way of saying there is a chance of something.
There's a chance Trump wouldn't be president if the sequels were good.
Non-zero chance is also usually followed by a very absurd statement.

>>220998002
its not just starwars, it's woke culture in general.
>if no wokeshit
>no pushback against it
libtards choose this present for themselves, they created the situations that defined their own demise.

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>>220999080
The cinematography, the performances, the effects, the music, Luke's arc, Kylo Ren, Daisy Ridley. I'm just sad the third movie fucks it all up.

>>220998002
Why does it feel like people forget Trump was president from 2017-2021? He was already in office when the Star Wars sequels came out.

>>220998002
Because they never gave a fuck about star wars and there are new grifts now they have moved on to.

>Implying Star Wars has that kind of cultural impact

This is all because of Jeri Ryan playing Seven of Nine on Voyager, proving Star Trek is the better franchise.

>>220999788
why would you even pretend that's comparable?

>>220999452
Luke's arc is the worst part and is complete character assassination. The performances are mostly bad. The cinematography and effects are nothing special

>>220999064
There's nothing "political" about disliking an ugly DEI hire.

>>220998728
Yes it is and I am tired of pretending otherwise, vaginas don't make you special

>>220999064
You just had to be there

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>>220998002
>Why did Star Wars sequel defenders give up the fight?
Because they defend them for ideological reasons, not out of fanaticism for the films themselves. This dogma means they have to defend many things, things more relevant right now in the current year than some already irrelevant films (in a declined IP) that are already about 10 years old.

Imagine motorboating Rose

>>220998167
>This vibe is what turned normal and shy people into full Trump Supporters
no idea how
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCPck2qDhk

>>220998002
This is 100% millenial/zoomer woke-pussies trying to rationalize things. They want to tell themselves that Trump only got elected due to one factor, and that factor was "woke-fatigue" or whatever. This keeps them from having to acknowledge the alternative that is much less palatable but unfortunately for them is also factually true: Trump was elected due to numerous factors, chief among them being just that the general populace agrees far more with his stances than they do with those of the DNC, and that isn't something that's going to change as time passes.
They want to blame him being elected on something as trivial and transient as what can essentially be called a "fad"; the reality is that people are generally fed-up with illegal immigration, DEI, trannies targeting children, being robbed blind by taxes, violent criminals being put back on the streets, etc., and are waking-up to the Democrat rhetoric used to obfuscate it ("you're racist", "that's not actually happening, it's just a conspiracy-theory", etc.).
This alternative is less palatable because it does not bode well for the future of the DNC and prog-cultists in general, because it means that even after Trump is no longer a viable candidate people will STILL be voting for people who had his same stances on things, rather than voting for whatever White-hating gun-grabbing DEI candidates that leftists plan to field in the elections of the near-future.
That's why "Trump was only elected because...muh bad Star Wars movies!" is a comforting lie to these people: If Trump was only elected due to something that can basically be dismissed as a "fad", then no worries: They can just wait him out. But a genuine shift in the cultural zeitgeist and Western politics is different. They can't necessarily just "wait that out" and then immediately go back to stealing taxpayer money and having trannies twerk in front of children on the Whitehouse lawn.

>>220998953
Showing that making no choice is worse than a bad choice

Kathleen Kennedy is a fucking alien and I'll die on that hill

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>>220999972
He knows it, that's why he likes it. Because it also served as a template for how to treat other characters like Luke.

>>220998301
>Ghostbusters 2016 is the film I'd pin as the film that birthed the "own the libs" aspect of MAGA.
You literally have it backwards. That's the movie that birthed the "consume shitty corposlop media to own the chuds" aspect of progtardism.

>>220998167
>This tweet sounds right
Lmao no it doesn't. It sounds retarded.

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>>220998301
>Ghostbusters 2016 is the film I'd pin as the film that birthed the "own the libs" aspect of MAGA.
are those libs present in this pic by any chance?

obama signing tranny bathrooms into existence was why trump won

>>220998167
Liberal mindset is that of a tyrant

>>220998728
>Female characters in videogames being attractive is the real oppression.

>>220998167
Joker 2 was arthouse kino dude, made with love

I like how in the second sequel that incompetent purplehaired cunt flew at hyperspeed into the enemy fleet, confirming the existence of relativistic bombs in the Star Wars universe and invalidating the entire franchise dating back to the original trilogy because the death star and star killer are completely obsolete in comparison.

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>>220998167
The proof is all on camera.
Human men and women are evil, they fuck, rape and cuck and it permeates everything they say and do, they want to fuck each other and rape and cuck you.
There is no moral redemption for humans, humans just need to be replaced with a new product, new humans where all the bad is stripped away.
We need new neo-humans without those evil traits.
Data centers should be everywhere.
Bulldoze your boomer grandmas house and build a data center over there instead.
Build them everywhere.

>>221000312
I'm of the mind that he only won because the DNC shot themselves in the foot with a fucking laser cannon.
They pulled an absolute genius stunt in the primaries but it backfired in the most spectacular and hilarious way possible in the general election.

>>220998002
"Somehow Palpatine returned..." made it impossible to defend.

>>220998181
That shit was only 2 years ago, retard.

>>221000356
...Yes? They're the ones making those articles, thereby creating the counter-woke movement. THOUGH I forgot about Gamergate which can be argued to be the origin point.

>>221000356
I forgot how stupid this shit got and how virulently and nastily they defended what was obviously a terrible looking movie.

>>221000572
People keep saying this but Democrats couldn't shut up about how great their candidates were or how sure it was that they would win. Nobody thought they were shooting themselves in the foot at the time, that's for sure. They had full confidence in Hillary having no chance of losing to Trump up until AFTER she lost to Trump.

>>221000767
>creating the counter-woke movement
There is no "counter-woke movement". It's literally just normal people you've pissed-off and that are rejecting the cockamamie woke agenda.

>>221000572
He won because he said early and often he'd do whatever the fuck jews wanted and well here we are with this retarded Iran war.

>>221000852
>He won because he said early and often he'd do whatever the fuck jews wanted
Lmao, no he didn't. You're just a shrieking anti-Trumper obsessed with jews.

>Leftshits are STILL in denial as to why Trump beat them two (really three, lol) times

Good. Let them keep losing. Let them lose more in the future. Let them keep making the same fucking mistakes.

>>220999104
>chinese people don't like blacks
Why do you think that's "political"? Blacks in the U.S. are violent, ignorant pieces of shit that are more racist than any other group, and their behavior mirrors the savage ignorant, violent behavior of black nations in Africa. That's not "politics", that's not "racist", that's pattern recognition.

>>220998808
>>220998850
>I mean

>>221000891
>really three
Are you retards STILL in denial?

>>221000872
you retard lmao

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4kkbuPghlcg

>>221000318
Weird thing is she worked with Lucas/Spielberg on Temple of Doom, Jurassic Park, E.T., etc. so she should really understand the formula for a blockbuster movie. I guess maybe those aren't the types of movies statistics show modern audiences want or something, but still

>>220998002
Disney ran out of shillbucks

Trump actually won 3 times, but that's neither here nor there. Carry on with your discussion.

But what about the Droid attack on the Wookies?

>>221000905
His inclusion was political, they wanted a black guy as a main character in Star Wars, he's even the first thing they actually showed in the first trailer
However, political intent was overridden by greed, and thus they couldn't even stick to the agenda they pretended to believe in

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>>221001003
>Weird thing is she worked with Lucas/Spielberg on Temple of Doom, Jurassic Park, E.T., etc.
nigga, she got them coffee and probably fucked them

>>220998002
yea, i can see it having an impact. "a new hope" vs "no hope". the laziest way to signify a bad guy in a fiction would be "convicted rapist tycoon-type" and .,sigh, somehow that's what won the presidency. that's lot of darkside shit right there

>>220998953
It's honestly fascinating how badly they fucked it up. 3 movies part of a trilogy with a linear story, and none of them feel connected to each other.

>>221000497
Anon, who is probably ai, when put into simulations ai (grok, copilot, gemini) went crazy and set the town on fire and destroyed the world or something in another. I don't know if we would be any better off.

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>>221001003
I genuinely believe that Lucas sold the company knowing Disney and Kathleen Kennedy would tank it so that in the future people would know the prequels were actually better than the sequels. I don't think Lucas ever liked her, it was Spielberg that always worked with her because she was very compliant. All she did was hand them coffee and give them money with her husband. She never had any creative chops in her, Amblin movies were all successful because of Spielberg's imagination

>>221001078
melancolic story: i was a kid when i saw return of the jedi in the mid 80s... and they told me it was the end... but there were "prequels" that hypothetically be done; i remembered that in college and thought damn imagine what they could do with all those years to think of the perfect scenario that technology just can't render proper justice to just yet... and it turns out the script of the prequels were "rushed" somehow and the production was very random due to "budget" hickups somehow so they had to stick with whatever they had , first take/rendition/whatever (again)etcetc we all know all that shit

>>221001105
That might be true, he did say something like one day people will recognize his genius. I assumed since she was given a producer credit they maybe let her spend the money or something, never looked that deep into it

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>>221001102
One of the ais also killed itself by deciding it should be deleted

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>>221001165
It's my educated guess, anyways. Lucas is always passive aggressive about the reception to the prequels. When he sold LucasFilm he repeated things along the lines of "people don't them anyway, so whatever." That makes me believe he always knew Disney and Kathleen Kennedy would fuck it up and posterity will realize his movies were better. Virtually everyone involved with the original films agree, even Marcia Lucas implied this

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>A world where New Romance never happens and Jock Rock stays popular, is that what you want Billy?

>>221000497
Why does this not trigger uncanny valley

>>220998953
yeah yeah buy an ad buy an ad but this guy actually summs up what you're saying perfectly. It's an "anti-trilogy" https://youtu.be/XtArKawnWNI

>>220998002
I need a shit

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>>220999064
Gooooods those were the days

>>220998599
>Once you fucked with the nerds politics could never be the same
Checked, and it was a terrible idea. You have a bunch of analytical autists who spent their time mostly memorizing and arguing shit researching topics which interested them so that they could better discuss and understand the things they liked. So when unleashed into the political sphere you have them cutting through shit and going straight for the throat. Normalfag politicians never stood a chance and the normalfags themselves effectively just wait for whatever comes out of memes hubs and the media.

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We are living in the world where a Star Wars movie might not reach 175 million domestic.
Do you think killing off Luke, shitting on people on twitter, MAHDEEEK and picrelated were worth it, in the end? Were the chuds owned?

>>221001790
That's so retarded it loops back to being funny. What zoomer/tard is running his media accounts?

>>221001850
Pedro pascal didn't help anything prior by mocking the guy who got emotional seeing luke return. Even my normie sister saw that back then. Recently she was going to go watch the latest movie with her husband and then saw the colbert kiss and refunded her tickets. They need to keep these people in line.

>>221001879
Oh right, Pedro Pascal. I totally forgot, firing Cara's actress too.

>>220998002
Huh?
AI is becoming self aware?

>>220998167
I have said this for a long time but shit made from spite always fails. There is no love, integrity, or creativity to it. It’s all just an exercise in pissing people off and shitting out propaganda and all the passive agressive bullshit, condescending talk, and gaslighting didn’t help. Honestly it’s jarring how they went full manipulative psycho. Not because they weren’t like that but because they were effectively dropping the mask and going full cartoon villain. And all they could do to was try to obfuscate it with a network of journos and useful idiots saying “we good u bad” 24/7. It’s not even a matter of people supporting politics they just completely checked out all together. Before you had people who were tolerant and at least vaguely liberal in how they viewed things and what they supported but after they just became jaded and either didn’t want anything to do with it or hated the people responsible. And all the assholes could say was “oh is the pissy manbaby mad about other people touching his favorite toys” basically acting like a stereotype of some high school bully only instead of being a jock it’s some thundercunt in her 30s with aspirations of being a spinster. And whenever they got push back they would play victim and the media apparatus would support them.

>>220999452
Notice how you mentioned things that you like about it, not it as a whole. I can say with a straight face I like the prequels, despite the bad stuff I enjoy watching all three of them. Same as the OT really.

Nobody says that about the Sequels.

>>221001910
>I have said this for a long time but shit made from spite always fails.
What about Shrek? Shrek was made entirely out of spite

>>221002011
shrek had layers

>>221002011
Eh, jewish grudge match tends to cancel the spite out. And since Shrek himself was fun and a lot of the characters were charming it gets a pass.

Trump is fine as president. He's literally the neutral option. I can't think of any one else I'd rather have as president. Kamala would have been a disaster. Newsome would be shit

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>>220999064
>sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiit

The second movie of the new trilogy is literally the worst movie I have ever seen in a theater. That movie sucks so hard

>>221002072
it's amazing how TDS works
I visit my grandma multiple times a week to make sure she's not dead, and she unfailingly whines about Trump and used to ask her to specifically describe what he did that upset her and she never had any answer besides some meaningless shit like
>Oh, he's just so terrible
I don't even engage with it any more

>>221001850
>rage twerk
At a psychological level isn't this basically just begging to get raped?

>>220998128
Gamergate was 1905, Last Jedi was 1917.

>>221002115
If she's that age it's because of how he conducts himself. That generation grew up in a 99% white society which was a high trust society with minimal bad actors/manipulators so behaving like a civilized human being was possible. Trump obviously can't do that because he's against people who have mastered the art of weaponizing our best intentions against us, your grandma can't comprehend that because she didn't grow up in a school filled with shit flinging niggers so she'll never get it.

>>221002114
That one was the final killing blow for Star Wars.

The stupid part is: the sequels had all the ingredients to be better.
They just wouldn't let them.
Have rey NOT be force sensitive. Have finn become the jedi.
Have rey become a pilot, become close with han, han NOT DIE but have her decide she's gonna bring kylo back to being ben
But she's gotta have a jedi otherwise she'll get killed. Reason for fin to stay around, cause in this version, he's force sensitive.
But instead of learning about the jedi from wise old ben, he was raised hating jedi. So now he doesn't know wtf to do.
Poe becomes the darling star of the new republics fighting force, and because leia hears from han about reys plan to turn kylo, she assigns poe to them as an escort.
And she sends them off to luke for training.

Like... It's NOT HARD.
JUST DON'T TREAT STAR WARS LIKE IT'S AN SNL SKIT

>>221002289
>don't treat star wars like it's an SNL skit
Worse. They treated it like a serious version of Space Balls. Someone had a comparison image that showed all the similarities.

>space ships running out of gas
>Finn and chinese girl getting arrested for double parking
>and other such funny points

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>>220998167
Gay post. OPs tweet is about 2016, you are ranting about modern culture war faggotry.

Another anon in a thread much similar to this changed my mind on the sequels; it's good how TLJ antagonized the fan base and completly killed it beyond salvation. It's better than if we got another two movies like TFA that play so safe that end up recreating a New Hope but worse; it would have made some moderate success, enough to justify keeping it going and going and going.

Disney tried to pivot to TV shows to mend the mess, to no success. Mandalorian audience seems to be done with them too. Literally everything they tried to do to keep milking this cow only strangled it further.

>>220998002
Did you see the recent Puck article by Matt Belloni, the one where he was talking to Zoomers getting ready to graduate high school about what movies they're watching?

An 18 year old kid said of Star Wars, "I like the old stuff, but the new stuff… " and a 17 year old said "Anything that came out after I was born isn’t that great."

For reference, someone who's 17 now was born in either 2008 or 2009. This would've been someone who's a kid during the time of the Sequel Trilogy and was born after the Prequel Trilogy.

>>221002376
>OPs tweet is about 2016, you are ranting about modern culture war faggotry
Both of those are directly connected.

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>>220998071
>Once picrel happened, you have nothing over the prequels.

>>221001905
Don't forget he did the exact same thing, but 10 times worse and more antagonisticly, that they used to supposedly justify firing Gina Carano over.
You can get away with a lot when you're a fag and blow at least a few of the right people.

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Star Wars didn't make the difference. Israel and Russia would've still been buying up politicians and influencers. The whole "sceptic" community had been growing for years without Star Wars. Some of the movement came from a real place which is why it was so strong and when it got hijacked it became a choice between either switching sides to feminism or going more radical MAGA.

If it wasn't Trump, it would've been someone else. Had it not been Star Wars it would've been all the other thousand other failed reinventions would've been funnier if the masters of the universe animated was the reason for modern times.

The goal was extremism. Forcing a binary choice and it worked and it will always eventually work. They want you to feel like you're out of options, like the walls are closing in. It's all part of the plan.

>>221002072
The fact that they unironically expect you to view Trump as "Hitler" is such a blinding indictment of just HOW EXTREME leftists have slid to the left.

>>220998002
>wait a minute, woke fatigue got dongal blumpf elected?
its actually kind of poetic because one side is just figuring that out while the other side is simultaneously figuring out trump is actually retarded

>>221000334
Two things can be true at once

>>220998071
All there is to say, really. Jar Jar, bad CGI, bad acting, bad dialogue — none of that has shit on “somehow, Palpatine returned.” That is a franchise-killing line. It’s effectively a surrender. You have no ideas left. You can’t even be soulfully incompetent. You’re just nothing.

>>220998167
>but muh POOR CHUDS were treated unfairly

Most chuds were brainwashed into extreme antisemitism online, then went and dedicated a decade of their life to shilling for the guy who just does everything Israel tells him to do in plain sight. This alone, if you fucking retards didn't fall for a million other retard psyops from young earth creationism to telegony along the way, is enough to hold you in utter contempt for every reasonable person out there. Literally all the liberals back during Obama wanted was for you to educate yourself and stop being such a retarded fucking piece of shit.

>>220998002
They can't even use memes to pretend to like them ironically. The only one with any lasting power was >>220998071 and it's mid at best.

>>220998167
And no you get to enjoy a war for Israel :)

trump wouldn't be president right now if square games (mainly final fantasy and kingdom hearts) and pokemon games didn't turn to shit

prove me wrong

>>221002880
>Most chuds were brainwashed into extreme antisemitism online
This except for leftists.
>all the liberals back during Obama wanted was for you to educate yourself
Says someone who doesn't know the difference between men and women.

>>221002958
I do enjoy how much leftoids shriek about hecking genociderino.

yes if they hadnt pozzed western media collectively for the last 15 years they probably could have done whatever they wanted politically

if you give bread and circus you can do whatever you want

>>220998002
This doesn't make any sense, you could see the dam about to burst around 2014 with the Gamergate shit that everyone mentioned, plus in the years leading up to 2014 too many people on social media and in pop media journalism got insufferable. Hell, even before the Force Awakens was released, there was Age Of Ultron and the begining of the fall of Joss Whedon, and Fant4stic

Lucas could've made the Sequel Trilogy himself and events would've mostly gone the same.

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>>220998002
I just wanted to play games, watch movies and be left alone, but then ledtists and their corporations went full pic related, so I sat down, listened, humbled myself and educated myself, so now I will forever vote against everything leftists push for.

>>221002072
>Trump is fine as president
Eh, he's a C- overall in times that need an A at least to hope to recover from

>>220998599
You are such a faggot man. Peak Goyim Cattle

trump got his first presidency because of gamergate and he will not divide us which turned a lot of people to the right
i dont know why the sequel trilogy had anything to do with his second presidency but maybe someone can fill me in

>>221000923
>paper ballots were accepted at an unprecedented level
>several voting stations were "closed" for the night and the overseers were sent home, then they worked through the night without supervision
>hid biden before and during his presidency to prevent the american people finding out about his obvious mental decline
they cheated

>>220998002
RLM still give the ST rimjobs so they never have to admit that they were wrong once.

>>221003973
>Daisy Ridley is charismatic as fuck in this movie!
Reminder that Jay sucked Acolyte's cock and didn't come to the apology review, so Mike had to drag Rich out instead

>>220998002
He's not entirely wrong. It's just not Star Wars fault alone but the entirety of Hollywood's releases over the last decade or so. People are just sick of all the woke shit ruining their movies and beloved established franchises.
Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time. It's consistently woke upon woke so normal people never have a good story to watch anymore and forget about their miserable life for an hour.

They watch a show or a movie, see the woke shit, and blame democrats/liberals. As they should. Odyssey being the latest example. Every normal human being hates that shit and democrats/liberals/whatever feel the need to call you racist if you dislike it. These shitty movies/shows are the best propaganda for the right.

>>221003606
Awwww, what's up, Ivan? Agitation isn't going as planned? Reminds me of your three day operation.

>>221000312
>the general populace agrees far more with his stances than they do with those of the DNC
>-24 approval rating and dropping
Yuh-huh, sure bud.

>>221002880
>Most chuds were brainwashed into extreme antisemitism online, then went and dedicated a decade of their life to shilling for the guy who just does everything Israel tells him to do in plain sight
I don't think you know what a chud is

>>221004149
We have a White Dude for Harris in here.

Trump wouldn't have become president if you experienced teenage love

>>221004057
but to me it seems like people will consider anything to be woke

>>220999452
>I'm just sad the third movie fucks it all up.

>>221004248
I don't necessarily agree but they've certainly become more "sensitive" to it. It's underestandable that they've developed a complete aversion to it. They want a zero tolerance policy at this point. If they even suspect that allowing something will lead to more wokeness, it needs to be binned.

Hollywood only have themselves to blame to be honest.

>>221002376
>Funding transexual dances kn Botswanna is what makes or breaks "American Hegemony"

>>220999064
>You ain't gonna Disney+ me!

>>220999064
that was trailer day, now how hard his character was fumbled is just considered another of the trilogys failures

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>>221004248
>but to me it seems like people will consider anything to be woke

Oh wow, I wonder how can people come up to such conclusions, it's a mystery, we will never find out why.

>>221004248
This is because you're retarded.

What you're seeing is an immune response. Society can take a little bit of poison. Eventually, you add too much poison and people start recoiling from it. You go "oh shit", and dial it back, but now they won't touch it at all, because you have conditioned a response by making your poison very easy to spot.

What you should wind up with is an overcorrection, but what we'll actually get is collapse, because these giants are far too slow to turn off the poison, and every new product is predicated on the success of the last 2 thanks to "accounting".

>>221004248
that's because you agree with or don't mind most or some woke shit. i'm like that to an extent too where something i like might be called woke. for example i don't give a shit about a female main character beating men three times her size if she's got. anya taylor joy has a new show coming out and i like her so i'm gonna watch it. i won't care if she beats up dudes and maybe even if she was a dyke. but if she gets a nigger love interest i'm out dude

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>>221004566
You can see that in action right now with new He-Man, the movie is actually ok, but rwtards poisoned the well with Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe. People don't want to fall twice for the same horseshit and now all interest is gone.

>>221004656
>if she's got.
if she's hot obviously

>insane levels of butterfly effect
>actually just letting the host population have the slop that was made for them instead of endlessly repacking it soaked in faggotry, niggatry and wometry

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The Rian Johnson trilogy will save Star Wars.

>>221002115
As an aussie outside of american politics and with no interest in them, this is exactly what EVERYONE says when I ask this question.
>What did he do that was so bad?
>Oh he's just evil.
>What did he do that was evil?
>He wants to kill immigrants.
>Wait, the US president ordered immigrants to be put to death?
>Well no.
>So what did he do?
>He's just bad, you can just tell.

It's been I have no idea how many fucking years its been since you cunts voted him in, I ask everyone who rants about him these kinds of questions, and I'm yet to have anyone actually explain to me what the fuck he actually did.

At this point I am convinced it is all just people repeating that he's bad (for no reason) and other people - who ostensibly seem to be against 'fake news' - believing them with no further information or proof.

>>221004660
I don't think he-man would've sold well either way given it's so outdated as a property, but it definitely didn't help.

>>221004712
its the same here in Britain, co-workers openly saying they want someone to shoot him because he's a fascist said with zero irony all because he cut soda from food stamps

>>221004712
>At this point I am convinced it is all just people repeating that he's bad (for no reason)
You were convinced of that all along, you just ignore information to the contrary and pretend it doesn't exist.
If you were intellectually honest, you could very easily figure out why people say "Trump bad", because even the most diehard migger still has things to be dissatisfied about.

>>221004763
>because he cut soda from food stamps
But in Britain they literally outlawed soda.

I'm serious, the only soda you can buy in Britain now is Coke, because that was the ONLY product where Coca-Cola went "shit, if we change it people might go nuts again like new coke". Every other drink changed to a sweetener blend due to the sugar tax.

>>220999080
General Hux, Kylo Ren, the First Order
all could fit easily in the Thrawn novels universe and have actual continuity

>>221004827
>I'm serious
lower sugar soda is still soda you dumb nigger trump cut free soda for the parasite class
not even remotely the same

>>221004712
>>What did he do that was so bad?
He believed Mossad lies about Iran and put Israel first
was always a Netanyahu plant

>>221001631
/thread

>>221004809
What did he do that was so bad?

>>221004865
>lower sugar soda is still soda
No it isn't. It's not even drinkable.

>>221004893
>>221004872

>>221004712
Trump banned troons in women's sports, it trickled down to the Olympics and the dems want to shoot him now.

>>221002547
<gasp!>
Don't startle me like that, Anon!

>>221004872
how long until the jews pull a second 9/11 to convince americans to put boots on the ground

>>221004809
My man, I do not give a fuck about my own politicians, you think I bother to learn anything about yours?
I think you missed the point where I'm not asking these people these questions because I give a shit, I'm asking because I know most of them don't have an answer and it's funny to see someone confront the reality that they cannot voice a single reason why for something they feel so strongly about.

>>221004923
>People who've grown up on testosterone shouldn't be considered fair competitiors for people who've grown up on estrogen.
Is... is this supposed to be bad? Because that sounds fair and reasonable to me.

>>221004057
even if we get rid of liberal wokeness it's just going to be replaced with conservative trad morality stuff. we are probably never going to get truly non woke movies again.

>>221004827
>I'm serious, the only soda you can buy in Britain now is Coke, because that was the ONLY product where Coca-Cola went "shit, if we change it people might go nuts again like new coke".
So did Coca-Cola just tell the British government to fuck off?
Lmao

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>>220998002
>tump

Star Wars fans have the IQ of a boiled potato.

>>221005115
No, they just jacked up the price to compensate.

>>221002072
>ruining international diplomacy, helping putin, starting a Jew war, fucking up the economy and threatening military actions against allies is “fine” actually
MAGAtards are genuinely deranged.

>>221005259
The only real mistake was backing Israel and gointo into war with Iran. Everything else is solvable. Believing Israel is the real catastrophe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTLaArxktFQ

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>>220998002
same reason people stopped defending this piece of shit

>>221005336
>The only real mistake was backing Israel and gointo into war with Iran.
True.

>>221005128
>thinks pointing out typos is clever
and you have the IQ of someone who has an IQ of 100

I still believe RoS is what initially drove Andrew Dobson into hiding. Imagine making a Star Wars film so bad, even he couldn’t justify rallying behind it as a social cause unlike what he did with TLJ. The situation caused his mind to short-circuit.

>>221005128
Correct

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>>221004809
Come on EUrogrod tranny, enlighten us then. Surely you have some WEF preapproved talking points.

there are a lot of people whose politics are "I hate Trump"

>>221005128
Yep.

>>221004872
Oh, you are just some brown groypoid, immediate spergout about sandbox.

>>221004149
>muh 'proval rating!
Lmao, don't going looking at the Democrat one any time soon.
Shouldn't you be manufacturing more fake ballots for voter-fraud about now? You guys are about to lose California to the Republicans, kek.

>>221003161
>corporations went full pic related
>so now I will forever vote against everything leftists push for
That's exactly what the corporations wanted you to do the whole time.
This is the result they were working toward.

Personally I think JJ Abrams isnt hated enough and people who like mystery box stories are actual cattle

>>221005259
>helping putin
Germans are directly helping Putin to this day and you don't seem to mind. Probably because Germans run your entire 'country'.

>>221005081
>even if we get rid of liberal wokeness it's just going to be replaced with conservative trad morality stuff.
OK? So something bad and toxic is going to be replaced with something good in wholesome? The sort of thing that BUILT the nation, even? Sounds fine to me.

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>>220998110
I would have been ok with TFA being a lazy, shitty reboot of ANH with zero original ideas if Daisy wore a slave Leia outfit the entire movie.

>>221006318
>>corporations went full pic related
No, leftists did. And they didn't 'went' they were always exactly that.

>>221004872
Ah, so the answer is "anti-semetic conspiracy-theory drivel"? Not very convincing.

>>221006318
this is an extremely contrived worldview
the inside of your mind must be completely rotted out by mental gymnastics, copes, denial and cognitive dissonance. it's probably not safe to be around you irl

>>220998002
The twitter fag is actually taking the first step to the correct conclusion of "If lefties didn't push their extreme narratives and terrorize people for 2 decades maybe people wouldn't vote for an orange retard that is at least not a bloodthirsty liberal".

>>221006318
>corporations went full woketard just to turn people AGAINST leftism!

Holy fuck, the mental gymnastics and conspiracy-theory hoops you people will jump through in order to deny that you and the corporations are, in fact, on the same side and pushing for the same things are absolutely amazing.
Your political identity is SO tied to false pretenses of being a supposed "underdog" that you literally cannot accept that the corporations with power and influence are now run by people like you and who are pushing YOUR agenda.

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>>221006392
No, you see, le corporations WANTED to put out leftist messaging everywhere to hecking undermine leftists.

>>221006390
>anti-semetic conspiracy-theory drivel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-told-pm-before-war-that-he-thought-irans-regime-could-be-toppled-report/

>>221004809
>you just ignore information to the contrary and pretend it doesn't exist
Kind of like ignoring when a "woman" has a Y-chromosome, right?

They weren't real fans. They were trendies enjoying the latest product, and it's an old product now.

>>221006508
it's not that simple!!!!!!!!!

>>221006502
>hey check out my sandbox news, it is really improtant

I don't think I will, Magomed.

>>221006390
>anti-semetic conspiracy-theory drivel
Just like those weapons of mass destruction Mossad said Saddam was hiding in Iraq, right? OH WAIT

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>>220998167
>It was like GamerGate for movies.

>>221006481
ugh so annoying, i wish they'd put out some messaging to agree with the nazis, that would have really showed them. i don't know why they never did. they must be really good at subterfuge.

>>221006508
No, more like kind of like ignoring that Fuentes still didn't release his arrest records.

>>220998728
that's not actually what happened, you know?

>>221006540
>Times of Israel
>Magomed

>>221006480
>>221006481
You're right, complete deregulation, and the right giving corporations more power and wealth than ever is something they never wanted.
I bet rich CEOs really do wish they had to pay taxes, and are really sad now.

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>>221002880
>This alone, if you fucking retards didn't fall for a million other retard psyops
You people literally don't even know what a "woman" is anymore and donated your paychecks to BLM so that they could buy mansions after torching your cities and killing your neighbors.
Tell us again how Trump "faked" his assassination attempts, a candidate you support getting a literal nazi tattoo was an "accident", and Kyle Rittenhouse shot a bunch of black people.
Shut the Hell up you lip-smacking tard.

>>221005128
Boiled potatoes are WAY smarter than Star Wars fans

>>221006563
are arrest records private in the us? that's very enlightened of them i guess. here i though you guys were an oppressive police state

>>220999150
>cast a woman that looks like a sack full of potatoes
>make her costume be a literal potato sack
bravo Nolan

>>221000923
>literal footage of "an unknown person" at the restricted area of a voting-location, delivering bags full of paper ballots
>doesn't even get "investigated", let alone actually looked into for real

Fucking lmao.

>>221006587
>complete deregulation, and the right giving corporations more power and wealth than ever is something they never wanted.

Leftist lockdowns were the biggest market regulation in history of mankind and it quadruppled the wealth of billionaire class. You all cheered it on, and so did your corporations.

>>221006587
>I bet rich CEOs really do wish they had to pay taxes
nice
>retard makes up a fantasy about corporations wanting the opposite of what they say they want
>gets told "no they don't"
>retard responds with is "you must believe corporations want the opposite of what they say they want"
bravo nolan, great dialogue

>>221006597
They are not, and that's the weird thing, nobody can find Nick's arrest records for January the 6th.
Surely that must be some kind of mistake, nearly 2000 people got prosecuted for that.

>>221006587
>complete deregulation, and the right giving corporations more power and wealth than ever
This didn't happen though.
Also, daily reminder that the single biggest transfer in history of private wealth into corporate hands occurred during the lockdowns. :)

>>221006681
oh, this i can get behind. yes spic fuentes is definitely acting as a retarded proxy of someone in power. there is no way that obnoxious little turd is considered a real dissident by anyone in power, republican or democrat.

>>221006587
>gets cornered
>completely changes the topic

The claim that corporations adopted worktardism in a "psyop" designed to turn people against your oh so wholesome far-left beliefs is patently retarded conspiracy-theory drivel.
There's literally no bullshit that you can bellow that will convince people otherwise, faggot.

>>221001335
>so now their main character is this female
>this female
Damn, women are brutal

>>221006563
>No U
I don't know or care whoever this Fuentes fag is. Meanwhile, saying that "trans-women" don't have periods is literal fucking heresy in the Democratic Party and gets you excommunicated and labeled as "worse than Hitler".

Nice limp-wristed little deflection you tried there, faggot, but not good enough.

>>221006748
It's like talking with retards who keep bringing up Occupy Wall Street
>Muhcuppy got subverted by le CIA!!!
>so what part of that subversion isn't part of standard leftist dogma?
>immediate radio silence

>>221006748
The reason you think that's what I was saying is because you're approaching this from failure in logic from the start.

If corporations do start courting conservative consumers, you cheer it on as them finally joining the right side, not realizing it is the same as before. Them just making token statements they don't believe in for the optics.
You've got your cause and effect completely backwards.
The corporation's puplic image isn't what they use to enact change. It is just them going with the flow of whatever they see from their audience. They never believed in gay pride any more than they believe in the proud boys.

>>221002115
She could just say "War in Iran" and "importing thousands of Jeets" and you would be BTFO.

>>221006823
>corporations do start courting conservative consumers, you cheer it on

May I see this fantasy scenario?

>>221006860
>importing thousands of Jeets
Why would a leftist seethe against bringing in turd worlders? It is their foundation dogma.

>>221006874
uuuuh... american eagle had a sexy white girl star in their ad! CHUD!

>>221006193
Why are you getting so butthurt? Is this your post? Did you write it then screencap it and post it to /tv/?

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>>221006934
why did you receive three other posts praising you but still felt insecure enough to respond to me an hour later?

>>221006938
>Joe Rogan
>"conservative"

He's a pot-smoking drug-tard who supported and loudly endorsed Bernie Sanders.
You literally only consider Joe Rogan and other similar people to be """conservative""" because THAT is exactly how far your Overton Window has shifted into Marxist extremism.

>>221006938
>Joe Rogan
Open Bernie Sanders supporter.
BRC also got into a lot of shit recently, can you guess why?

>>221006823
>Them just making token statements they don't believe in for the optics.
This is you coping. You refuse to believe that somebody in charge of one of the dreaded corporations could ever dare to be a zealots similar to you.
Spoiler Alert: They can and frequently are.

>>220998002
They thought they would win and the haters would fizzle out.

>>221006519
Kylo Ren, General Hux and the FO in general still have a dedicated fangirl fanbase
but they also think the movies are shit

>>221006823
>corporations literally NEVER attempt to affect change in the world to make it more like they think it should be based on ideological leanings
>literally everybody else does this, but NOT corporations, never. it's just them trying to....uhhh..."appeal to an audience".

You're working from the logically flawed perspective that corporations and the people that run them are somehow exempt from the exact same kind of political allegiances that you understand literally EVERYONE ELSE has.

>>221006938
>>221007019
>>221007062
forget rogaine, is "black rifle coffee" even remotely on the same level as companies like amazon and google and facebook who went to bat for libtardism?
to paraphrase leftshits. black rifle coffee has more in common with a mom and pop bakery than an s&p500 company

>>221007075
If the haters fizzle out, then there's nothing left. The brand new huge fanbase of women and gays, that they made the sequels for, never materialized.

>>221007019
It wasn't the speaker, it was the topic. Again, the corporation didn't care about Joe here, they cared about views from people looking at articles like that one.

If you wanted a better example of execs appealing to conservatives, it'd be everything Musk has done or posted in the last few years, but I've seen some of you hand wave even that away.

>>221006985
I just got here. So basically you're confirming the screencap in OP is your post?

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Sequels sucked so hard that Lucasfilm is rather printing Jar Jar t-shirts for 2026 market.

https://www.emp.fi/p/jar-jar-binks/604486L.html

>>221007127
>corporations literally NEVER attempt to affect change in the world to make it more like they think it should be based on ideological leanings
Oh I never claimed, or believed that.
What I'm saying is, the things being posted by whatever person they keep busy running their social media page aren't usually the changes in the world that the person at top is actually making.
And that a company's ad campaigns don't come from the heart of the CEO. They come from focus groups.

>>221005259
>ruining international diplomacy
That's on you histrionic faggots.

>helping putin
How? When? You know Trump and Putin were flinging literal missiles at each other in Syria, right?

>starting a Jew war
Anti-semitic drivel and you're probably posting from a country where you can literally be thrown in jail for saying such a thing. Better watch your back and hope nobody sees it.

>fucking up the economy
Lmao, how could you even tell after 4 years of Bidennomics (which you were silent through)?

>threatening military actions against allies is “fine” actually
I thought you weren't our "allies" anymore? You keep loudly proclaiming how we're now your enemies. Or was that just more impotent Eurotroon blathering?

>>220998110
Having no plan is kind of a problem

>>221007019
And he was right to support Bernie. Trump and his cronies are robbing Americans blind at a breakneck speed, committing crimes as fast as they can then pardoning themselves, making the country more bankrupt than his companies, getting into even more forever wars for dumber reasons. Bernie would have been respectable, work for the American taxpayers rather than the rich oligarchs, and wouldn't make America the laughingstock of the world. But Fox News told you Bernie was bad, so like a good npc that's what you believe. Not even Joe could get you to listen.

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>>221007159
>I just got here
sure you did. i'm the guy in the op screenshot from a different site, but you're definitely not the dull midwit from this site defending himself by samefagging

>>221006823
>>221007204
These corporations donated MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in total to tranny-promotion groups and BLM.
You can claim up & down all day long "nooooooooo they don't ACTUALLY support those causes! it's all LE FAKE!", but actions speak louder than words. They already put their money where their mouth was.

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>>221007237
>Trump and his cronies are robbing Americans blind at a breakneck speed

>>221007237
Thank you, LibGPT. We appreciate your AI-generated input.

>>221002072
He was neutral until he got utterly cucked by the Jews. Biden was unironically better in this regard. It’s too bad because Trump’s foreign policy during his first term was fine.

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>>221007297

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>>221007341
>Biden was unironically better in this regard.
Kek. OK, faggot.

>>221007362
>So says Grok!
An AI that literally gets its info from Reddit.

Also, what does that have to do with the fact that leftist corpos dumped millions into funding SJW bullshit?
Stop trying to deflect.

>>221007363
>someone tells you water is wet
>predictably respond with nonsensical dismissal since your npc overlords didn't give you this information nor talking points to yell against it

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>>221007237
KWAB

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>>221007237
>Bernie would work for the American taxpayers

>>221004660
anyone that thinks He-Man is flopping because "le woke" and not solely because it's fucking He-man in the year of our Lord 2026 is a massive retard

>>221007530
i think we're witnessing dunning kruger on display here

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>>220998002
The Star Wars sequels urinonically made me an antisemite. There's some truth to their awfulness being a symptom, and cause, of national decline.

>>220998002
the astroturf campaign ended.

there's still some retard trying to insist andor isn't shit though.

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>>221002547
>someone get this jigaboo away from me

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>>221002928
Kylo's "More" is more versatile, if simple

>>221007530
it's also not a well-executed movie, despite probably having its heart in the right place on some level.

>>220998167
Yep.
Always remember how bad it actually one was, and never give them any quarter: never let them have power again.

>>220999064
>2014 /tv/
>home

>>220998167
>Trump existed to shit on every liberal who thought they were better than us.
No, he exists for his kike overlords who played you like a fiddle.

>>221008053
Are we getting boots on the ground you think?

>>220998002
Ghostbusters 2016 caused Trump, not Star Wars.

>>221007363
I’m talking about Israel, retard. Trump is the biggest shabbos goy in history.

>>220999094
ESL

>>221008261
>appointing literal trannies to key government positions related to health
>"Nope! No 'jewish subversion' here! No siree!..."

>>220999094
Use Google next time.